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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 17 2017 08:29 GMT
#2071
The follow up was going to bed. And none of those people posted xcept Rels and I was looking into EC his filter for anything to call him town but I can't.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 17 2017 08:31 GMT
#2073
You are probably really just mafia. Getting +1 ml today and then auto the thread tomorrow. Killing both Damdred and geript during the night and then D5 push the last ml for the win riding the cred from the TW lynch while everybody already forgot you lynched me.

It's a good plan. Kuddos.

Holyflare is mafia. Remember this on D5.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 17 2017 09:34 GMT
#2090
Skynx is by far the best player this game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 17 2017 10:12 GMT
#2098
I like how HF is twisting every post I make into something that it isn't and isn't even bothered with the content.
I don't say my list is confirmed worse than Skynx his. I am saying skynx is close to where I am and is doing it way cleaner than I am. So he is doing better. And I said it because I was rereading his filter. Nothing more. Nothing less.

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 16 2017 03:41 Skynx wrote:
I promissed a list so there we go

Never lynch town: rayn, HF, geript, Damdred
rayn has been the town pillar this game, not really need to say more + we had the exact same scumlist yesterday.
This is town HF, he's been diving into detail finding little stuff on Ruxxar that i liked, he was instantly on VA, etc. He is scumhunting decently so far.
geript and damdy are uncontested masons, breadcrumbed earlier + Show Spoiler +
On July 13 2017 08:44 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript is actually also prolly mafia
´


He's totally town brah


On July 13 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote:
Also I will burn this thread to the ground over geript, just so everyone knows.

I think rayb is also town.

Tina probably not town at this point, rux not sure but he's a bit nitpicky go me atm.


On July 13 2017 09:07 Damdred wrote:
I think geript is town for these reasons

1) he has no real motivation as scum. Look at his previous games and as scum he's a leader and always have a plan.

Here he's just eh.

2) He leaves himself in bad positions with his opinions. Like his opening post had no real logic behind it which us a town trait for geript early. As scum he could of fakes a reason instead he went eh Idk.

3) I just know he's town this game. (Imo)

so i don't really doubt the claim. There is a case where they do this as scum but that will be apparent if they don't die D2-3 anyway so don't have to worry about this read for a while

Town: rsoultinVivax
I bought tinas raging in the thread and now replacing out of emotion is really convincing. I don't see a mafia doing this, it would just be very unsportsmanlike (altho confirming Vivax like this is very dicky aswell)

Null: Rels, sicklucker
Unreadable boyz in da hood of D1, voted VA cuz VA is bad. Need to step up bigtime now.

Scum: TW, Ruxxar, emperor

They have all done objectively scummy shit, all in my filter so go look it up.

Koshi is on a category of his own, he hasn't done a towny thing so far so that warrants a scumread on its own but i just can't bring together a case looking at his filter. He needs to be lynched at some point if he keeps going like this.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 17 2017 10:24 GMT
#2102
For me Rux is more likely town because he is doing batshit insane shit that doesn't make sense and got a long filter. He is just jumping on everything he sees and has 0 limits.

Like what is the point of doing this as mafia?
On July 17 2017 01:27 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 01:23 Holyflare wrote:
Ok, whatever, I'm rescinding my claim. I don't want to waste any more time doing it and I want to further the discussion today so we can actually lynch ruxxar or koshi.

Everything ruxxar has done this game is absolutely FULL of TMI. Not only with VA but with this claim too. I think rels could maybe actually be town purely for his appeal to me about fake claiming on this page and it's stupid but I'm gonna roll with it.

I can't be bothered to work out how many mislynches there are till end game if rels flipped town but if it's one all of ruxxar's posts outline setting me up for the mislynch the next day when it's an obvious unspoken thing.


##vote holyflare

Die scum.


On July 17 2017 01:34 ruXxar wrote:
Anybody not voting for HF goes on my scum list.

As mafia he can easily jump on me and secure the ml he has been pushing all game but instead he jumps on HF for faking a redcheck. Mafia pushes agendas and sticks to those.

I liked this post on TW:+ Show Spoiler +

On July 16 2017 10:52 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 09:53 geript wrote:
@HF. I'd like to get your opinion on TW. IMO, he looks like a great flip (better than Rux). He seems to have a lot of opinions without many suppositions. Many of those opinions are correct and I don't think he was more than mediocre when I've played with him previously.


I'm reviewing my read on TW, who I previously had as lock town.

The reason for my lock town read, was a very strong tone and meta read from his first list post.

After now reviewing his filter again, my opinion on him has changed from locked town to free agent.

Here is one of my findings on why my opinion changed:

Here he says who he wants to lynch due to his Poe.
But more importantly he mentions the *order* in which he wants to lynch.

Indicating that this is his strongest scum reads from left to right:

Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 14:51 Tumblewood wrote:
the scary thing is i don't think hf is obvious mafia this game. idk what that's supposed to mean but i don't think i want to lynch him today

...

actually looking at the playerlist, if you remove everyone i had some reason to not wanna lynch today it's only 4 people. and that's ec/va/rels/koshi. so imma lynch into them in that order(ish) and then after than idk
but if i wanna actually be decent i'll have to filter people. tomorrow (TM)


HOWEVER.

When I question him later why EC is his primary scum read(as indicated from the post above), this is the response I get:

Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 01:52 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 15 2017 01:50 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 01:46 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 15 2017 00:52 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 00:49 Skynx wrote:
On July 15 2017 00:31 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 00:28 Skynx wrote:
On July 15 2017 00:25 ruXxar wrote:
VA. Tumblewood, rels.

Please vote.

What? TW was 100 town????


Yes?

What did he do wrong? What did Rels do wrong?


They haven't voted yet.

chill, i have like 5 hours left to do this


Why is EC scum?

i didn't say he is. i said he was one of four people i had no reason to townread, and right now i am filtering him


I find it suspicious that before even filtering his *primary* scum read, he has already determined the order in which he want to lynch his scum reads.

This tells me that he constructed the order in which he wanted to lynch people based on something else than their actual posts in the game.

This could be mafia wanting to push a lynch agenda suited to third agenda.

It really seemed to catch TW off-guard to be questioned about this, when he should've already had his reasons clear to him on the lynch order if he was town.


Pushing mafia is a good thing in my book and rewards you town points. Unlike for other players who think pushing mafia is a mafia threat.


Also small things like him not disregarding anybody and constantly questioning everybody (TW, EC in particular) makes me think he is not teamed with them.





buuuuttttttt I can see he could just be yoloing his way to the bank. Not discussing the redcheck could be mafia not knowing what to say about it for example.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 17 2017 10:29 GMT
#2103
On July 17 2017 19:18 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 19:12 Koshi wrote:
I like how HF is twisting every post I make into something that it isn't and isn't even bothered with the content.
I don't say my list is confirmed worse than Skynx his. I am saying skynx is close to where I am and is doing it way cleaner than I am. So he is doing better. And I said it because I was rereading his filter. Nothing more. Nothing less.

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 16 2017 03:41 Skynx wrote:
I promissed a list so there we go

Never lynch town: rayn, HF, geript, Damdred
rayn has been the town pillar this game, not really need to say more + we had the exact same scumlist yesterday.
This is town HF, he's been diving into detail finding little stuff on Ruxxar that i liked, he was instantly on VA, etc. He is scumhunting decently so far.
geript and damdy are uncontested masons, breadcrumbed earlier + Show Spoiler +
On July 13 2017 08:44 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript is actually also prolly mafia
´


He's totally town brah


On July 13 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote:
Also I will burn this thread to the ground over geript, just so everyone knows.

I think rayb is also town.

Tina probably not town at this point, rux not sure but he's a bit nitpicky go me atm.


On July 13 2017 09:07 Damdred wrote:
I think geript is town for these reasons

1) he has no real motivation as scum. Look at his previous games and as scum he's a leader and always have a plan.

Here he's just eh.

2) He leaves himself in bad positions with his opinions. Like his opening post had no real logic behind it which us a town trait for geript early. As scum he could of fakes a reason instead he went eh Idk.

3) I just know he's town this game. (Imo)

so i don't really doubt the claim. There is a case where they do this as scum but that will be apparent if they don't die D2-3 anyway so don't have to worry about this read for a while

Town: rsoultinVivax
I bought tinas raging in the thread and now replacing out of emotion is really convincing. I don't see a mafia doing this, it would just be very unsportsmanlike (altho confirming Vivax like this is very dicky aswell)

Null: Rels, sicklucker
Unreadable boyz in da hood of D1, voted VA cuz VA is bad. Need to step up bigtime now.

Scum: TW, Ruxxar, emperor

They have all done objectively scummy shit, all in my filter so go look it up.

Koshi is on a category of his own, he hasn't done a towny thing so far so that warrants a scumread on its own but i just can't bring together a case looking at his filter. He needs to be lynched at some point if he keeps going like this.



I never said anything about a list. I'm saying you're praising skynx who is voting off your tw wagon and not voting a scum read of yours while saying rels is mafia who is pushing a scum read of yours and looking at posts of ec, your scum read.

And then giving absolutely 0 content as to why any of these reads exist. Repeatedly.

If only I made a post pointing out him voting Rux while he said TW and Koshi are bussing each other. And then whined about it some more in a following post. In which I probably forgot to quote his vote.

If only...
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 17 2017 10:32 GMT
#2104
Ohno. I even repeated it again.
lol.

Please remember:
On July 17 2017 17:31 Koshi wrote:
HF is just mafia. Getting +1 ml today and then auto the thread tomorrow on TW. Killing both Damdred and geript during the night and then D5 push the last ml for the win (probably Ruxxar) riding the cred from the TW lynch while everybody already forgot you lynched me.

It's a good plan. Kuddos.

Holyflare is mafia. Remember this on D5.

I updated my prediction.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 17 2017 10:39 GMT
#2107
On July 17 2017 19:35 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 19:29 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 19:18 Holyflare wrote:
On July 17 2017 19:12 Koshi wrote:
I like how HF is twisting every post I make into something that it isn't and isn't even bothered with the content.
I don't say my list is confirmed worse than Skynx his. I am saying skynx is close to where I am and is doing it way cleaner than I am. So he is doing better. And I said it because I was rereading his filter. Nothing more. Nothing less.

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 16 2017 03:41 Skynx wrote:
I promissed a list so there we go

Never lynch town: rayn, HF, geript, Damdred
rayn has been the town pillar this game, not really need to say more + we had the exact same scumlist yesterday.
This is town HF, he's been diving into detail finding little stuff on Ruxxar that i liked, he was instantly on VA, etc. He is scumhunting decently so far.
geript and damdy are uncontested masons, breadcrumbed earlier + Show Spoiler +
On July 13 2017 08:44 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript is actually also prolly mafia
´


He's totally town brah


On July 13 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote:
Also I will burn this thread to the ground over geript, just so everyone knows.

I think rayb is also town.

Tina probably not town at this point, rux not sure but he's a bit nitpicky go me atm.


On July 13 2017 09:07 Damdred wrote:
I think geript is town for these reasons

1) he has no real motivation as scum. Look at his previous games and as scum he's a leader and always have a plan.

Here he's just eh.

2) He leaves himself in bad positions with his opinions. Like his opening post had no real logic behind it which us a town trait for geript early. As scum he could of fakes a reason instead he went eh Idk.

3) I just know he's town this game. (Imo)

so i don't really doubt the claim. There is a case where they do this as scum but that will be apparent if they don't die D2-3 anyway so don't have to worry about this read for a while

Town: rsoultinVivax
I bought tinas raging in the thread and now replacing out of emotion is really convincing. I don't see a mafia doing this, it would just be very unsportsmanlike (altho confirming Vivax like this is very dicky aswell)

Null: Rels, sicklucker
Unreadable boyz in da hood of D1, voted VA cuz VA is bad. Need to step up bigtime now.

Scum: TW, Ruxxar, emperor

They have all done objectively scummy shit, all in my filter so go look it up.

Koshi is on a category of his own, he hasn't done a towny thing so far so that warrants a scumread on its own but i just can't bring together a case looking at his filter. He needs to be lynched at some point if he keeps going like this.



I never said anything about a list. I'm saying you're praising skynx who is voting off your tw wagon and not voting a scum read of yours while saying rels is mafia who is pushing a scum read of yours and looking at posts of ec, your scum read.

And then giving absolutely 0 content as to why any of these reads exist. Repeatedly.

If only I made a post pointing out him voting Rux while he said TW and Koshi are bussing each other. And then whined about it some more in a following post. In which I probably forgot to quote his vote.

If only...


Yes, I saw you did that but you never called him mafia like you did for rels.

Once more I don't understand your point here.
I'll categorize it under: "Shitty attempts trying to discredit Koshi"
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 17 2017 10:41 GMT
#2108
Full on ignoring HF. I implore other to do the same, it will make you a better mafia player.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 17 2017 10:43 GMT
#2110
This is what town needs to do to win the game
D2: Lynch TW
D3: Read EC/SL/Rels and find 2 town.
D4: Accept HF is mafia and lynch HF.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 17 2017 10:46 GMT
#2113
On July 17 2017 19:41 Holyflare wrote:
Simply there's a massive discrepancy between:

Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 06:46 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 06:36 Skynx wrote:
On July 17 2017 06:29 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 06:24 Skynx wrote:
Do we have any reason to lynch Koshi over Ruxxar?

Let's lynch TW.

Park the bus.

On July 17 2017 06:38 Skynx wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Ruxxar

I don't understand.


When Skynx votes for your non-mafia read and rels who you just flat out call mafia for pushing your scum read.

You clearly hadn't read skynx's filter at this point and he's voting on ruxxar who you town read but you don't call him mafia.

Why do you call rels mafia for doing the same thing when rels is quoting ec posts and voting off wagon but on your mafia read?

What's the difference between skynx and rels that makes you scum read someone who is pushing your scum read with 24 hours to go over someone pushing your town read?

To other people than HF:
Both points 1 and 2 didn't happen. Here you see mafia HF creating a question based on 2 events that didn't even happen. Pretty hilarious.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 17 2017 10:48 GMT
#2114
I also want to point out that I can't answer the question he falsely created because both answers would make me mafia.

Do not fall into the trap reading the question without realizing the hypothesis before that is false.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 17 2017 11:11 GMT
#2119
Yesterday Koshi believed there was mafia within rels/sl/tw/ec. He was 100% sure TW was mafia and pretty happy about that. The situation seemed to evolve into a breakdown of the Rels wagon into a TW vs Koshi showdown in which mafia was going to vote Koshi. Now Koshi didn't like that people went to random ass wagons like EC and Ruxxar because that was not going to be productive. But he might have been too fast on that.

Now Skynx voting Rux was just weird because he just said TW/Koshi was a bus. Annoying but what else can I do except point it out twice...
Rels voting EC was potential a smart mafia play. Because if the Rels wagon abolishes people are not going to vote with Rels most likely. Because he is still a mafia suspect. So if the mafia team is Rels/EC/TW what Koshi believes that is a smart play. However, Koshi, smart as he is, did not call Rels flat out mafia because he voted mafia because Koshi is not a retard and accepts votes on mafia. Koshi did however point out it could be a smart mafia play, because it could be a smart mafia play.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 17 2017 12:19 GMT
#2141
On July 17 2017 20:31 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi what makes me scum? Seems like you're on the associative track, so what makes me scum with tw and rels?

Another misrepresenting question I wont answer.

But I'll ask you this, why did you vote me over for example Ruxxar or Rels?
On July 16 2017 05:57 emperorchampion wrote:
So in summary of the night and game so far:

- hf is lock town for me
- skynx might be town, but needs to stop being so lazy with his cases. Two half assed cases now, and almost lynched day 1.
- ruxxar is likely mafia. Few new reasons are his town reads of hf and skynx after they hard lock him mafia. Mafia motivation is that he doesn't know how to deal with the situation otherwise, so buddying is his only attempt. He gives no regard to tumbles town lock on him or vice versa, looks like buddying attempt to me. His day one reads are completely based on meta. The only reason for town reading me is honesty, despite having many similar reads and I would hope (but am maybe sorely mistaken) pretty strong town play this game.
- koshi needs to haul ass, unfortunately he can likely be mafia as well which is the only reason that in some insane world ruxxar is actually town. I believe that ruxxar started off with a "hey play better " sort of read. Then just never moved off it, and is now stuck bussing his teammate.
- tumble needs to explain his ruxxar read
- rayn still probably lock town, I admit I've been too lazy to read his filter this night
- sicklucker has been funny, but I've found that as both alignments, so will hopefully step up. End of day 1 seemed towny from him.
- damdy and geript don't have much to say here
- rels is super meh. Needs to explain why in his catching up just read only through rayns filter and just sheeped his top read
- vivax is likely town


On July 16 2017 06:06 emperorchampion wrote:
lol rels is red for reals?

On July 16 2017 06:16 emperorchampion wrote:
I'm gonna vote koshi, this guy needs to do something. And of course to collect my free town read from ruxxar


The moment Rels had a redcheck on him you vote me. While now that the red check is gone you want to vote with me on Rels?


This brings the questions:
Where do you townread me during my last 6-7 pages of filter?
Why do you not want to vote with me on TW?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 17 2017 12:23 GMT
#2143
Especially because your latest post on TW seem to indicate you suspect him.
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 16 2017 19:30 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 19:19 ruXxar wrote:
On July 16 2017 16:55 emperorchampion wrote:
@ ruxxar: do you remember if you had a town lock on tumble first, or him with you?


Please explain why that is important to you.


I think that one of the reads could be a buddying attempt since there's an ok chance one of you are scum. Tumbles read seems a bit more suspicious at the moment given his most recent reply. To me seems possible that tumble gives you town lock as scum to help build allies with players that are in weaker situations.


On July 16 2017 19:40 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 19:32 ruXxar wrote:
On July 16 2017 12:46 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 15 2017 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Skynx is not mafia.
Noone will never ever come into the game as mafia making a case on someone and at the same time being completely aware they haven't even read the half of what the said dude said. Never.

wow, it's not often that a point is good enough that i actually listen to it. it's not infallible but it's a real good thing to consider and i think skynx is town


Why do you make this post now?
It's out of context.


How so out of context?

I respect rayns read, part of what makes me think that skynx could just be lazy so far. I don't think it's as alignment indicative as rayn tho. Tumbles response is kinda weird. Does tumble have other things supporting skynx town? I don't remember fully, just the part where he said that skynx wasn't an ideal off wagon. Not sure if this point alone is enough to justify a town read but depends on his previous stance to me.

On July 16 2017 19:47 emperorchampion wrote:
His last response was really meh, like how can you town lock but not point out a single concrete reason why? Like if you're too lazy to filter the guy, then just say feels or that you're too lazy. So pretty interested in his further response on that.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 17 2017 12:31 GMT
#2145
geript, who are you (and damdred) lynching if EC is not happening?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 17 2017 12:58 GMT
#2146
PS: the correct answer is TW.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 17 2017 13:18 GMT
#2149
Funny story time:
Been sitting 20 hours on this TW wagon with an excellent case + meta and nobody is voting him. While there is nobody that townreads TW.

+ Show Spoiler +
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I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 17 2017 13:21 GMT
#2150
On July 17 2017 22:16 Vivax wrote:
I'm at P34 with a rayn and geript town lean. Nullish on Ruxxar and Damdred. Scummy on Koshi and emc. The Skynx entry post on rayn seemed a blown out version of "why aren't you talking about x", but I'm not sure that it makes him mafia.

HF looks bored all around but ends up p. much at the same reads. I never saw him explaining what emc slipped exactly, or missed it idk. Null for now.

I don't think I have time to do a proper read until Dline since I'm going out now and will be back evening-ish, so I'm just going to sheep rayn, maybe HF if he doesn't post something that advises me not to.

For when you are caught up↓
On July 17 2017 17:31 Koshi wrote:
HF is just mafia. Getting +1 ml today and then auto the thread tomorrow on TW. Killing both Damdred and geript during the night and then D5 push the last ml for the win (probably Ruxxar) riding the cred from the TW lynch while everybody already forgot you lynched me.

It's a good plan. Kuddos.

Holyflare is mafia. Remember this on D5.


I had a good night of sleep.
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On July 17 2017 22:25 Vivax wrote:
Well it's not going to happen quickly I have to head out now and will be devoted to catching up further when I'm back.
You were scumreading my slot D1 btw did something change? You just talked to me about HF as if you knew I'm town.

Yes. rsoultin ragequit. You are basically the third 99% certain innocent child this game.
I had a good night of sleep.
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