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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 16 2017 15:18 GMT
#1764
On July 16 2017 00:43 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 16 2017 00:34 Skynx wrote:
On July 16 2017 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 16 2017 00:27 Skynx wrote:
On July 16 2017 00:21 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 16 2017 00:12 Skynx wrote:
On July 15 2017 23:38 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 23:37 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 23:35 emperorchampion wrote:
[quote]

meh, I'm starting to think that this game isn't nearly as solved as I thought it was. Guess it's not surprising.


Please explain


I just felt good on skynx / koshi as scum. Rels could be, still 50/50. Now not as much, guess there's a lot more places to look.

Why you voted VA then???

On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .

I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.

In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.

@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?

I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.

I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.

For now gonna park my vote on va.

This is your opinion on me after like stating 2-3 times you need to read me. You give me a pass based on the reason that I'm trying. But earlier there is this:

On July 13 2017 23:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Quickly checking in: the "slip" is pretty lols that hf pointed out. I suppose some small town points to rsoul for being skeptical on this point. For this dislike hedging, I think I've been pretty clear my overall read on people . Of course there are things that give me pause on people but you can say that about any read at this point.

With regards to what rayn added re: his reasons for scum reading rux I'll look more at this later tonight. va's entrance I didn't mind at first glance since I didn't love skynx 's big post.

I'm sure there's more in there but gotta re read the last few pages later tonight.


Implying VA townlean, Skynx scumlean.

Later on you just keep repeating "Koshi/Skynx is a good place to look at", like 5 times, no exageration. What do you mean by a good place to look at? Does this imply a scumlean? No one is gona follow that if you don't point out why we're scum.
You also mention getting cold feet on VA lynch. I just can't find any reason to justify you staying on VA.

Why did you vote VA? What were your reasons for scumreading (or implying so) me and Koshi? Why didn't you do anything about it when you had scumleans?


Mmm I think I was more quickly checking in when I read both your case and VA's response to it. For starting my vote on VA I largely sheeped rayn and other's read on the situation. Then it turned into VA never defending him self, so I didn't really have any reason for moving off. I got a bit cold feet because it started looking 50/50 ish, until he started posting baby seals. Then I felt good about it till after the flip lol.

Koshi can be scum for a number of reasons, that my self and others have largely stated in thread since the start of night. For koshi it's definitely developing into a scum read. For you, we'll see.

I agree on Koshi but I'm the counter wagon to VA. If you're pushing the idea of I'm scum in the thread but not putting any effort into pushing me and vote on the other wagon thats just suspicious. Like literally, you switch and I'm dead. But that doesn't happen.

Did you scumread me or not?

i am going to mark this for myself for tomorrow (or if i happen to die to HF), because if this actually happened this is very very scummy.


Please do it today, in case you die.

On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .

I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.

In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.

@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?

I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.

I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.

For now gonna park my vote on va.

Votes for VA, townreads me.

Rest is just pushing the idea of I could be scum but thats it
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.

Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.

Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.


Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.

I don't think I want to lynch va today.

Rels is a good policy lynch though.

And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm.


You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this.

tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town.


Why rels?


Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity.


So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans?


Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this.


On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.

Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript

On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier

Why does that change things?

cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx


I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves.

I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon

On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Hf what do you think about skynx scum?

On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so:

Damdy and geript masons
Hf i think likely to be town
If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read
If tumble and rux are both town

sl looks like town to me
Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game

Rels
Skynx
Koshi


Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3

On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.

Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul.



Do you have anything to show from before deadline?
Or are those posts before deadline?

All of them before deadline, timestamps are korean time

No they're not ? Only the first two posts in the spoiler are before the deadline.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 16 2017 15:24 GMT
#1766
But even then I think it is a good point. EC did seem like he was counting VA out already.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 16 2017 15:24 GMT
#1767
HF / Koshi / EC
that makes sense.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 16 2017 15:26 GMT
#1768
SL IDK at all.
ruxxar's rest of filter was super natural, I thought I had something with the way he was treating EC weirdly then all of sudden he townreads him. I think he even lock townread him. I was thinking I had something linkling ruxxar and EC together but the lock townread doesn't make sense in that case. I think he's town
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 16 2017 15:49 GMT
#1776
On July 17 2017 00:30 Holyflare wrote:
Why do I claim cop here rels?

lol why should I know that. I'm actually pretty curious
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 16 2017 15:51 GMT
#1778
On July 17 2017 00:40 emperorchampion wrote:
Jesus rels, I have no idea what I need to do to get town read this game. Clearly you haven't read a single thing I wrote this game.

You can start to convince me by answering the question in my end of night summary.


On July 16 2017 05:57 emperorchampion wrote:
- rels is super meh. Needs to explain why in his catching up just read only through rayns filter and just sheeped his top read

This ? I didn't read only through rayn's filter. I read VA's filter as he was the top lynch, said some stuff about it, then read rayn's filter because VA mentionned a rayn's case on him.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 16 2017 15:56 GMT
#1781
On July 17 2017 00:45 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 00:24 Rels wrote:
But even then I think it is a good point. EC did seem like he was counting VA out already.


What do you mean?

you didn't seem convinced about your VA vote.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 16 2017 15:57 GMT
#1782
On July 17 2017 00:51 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 00:49 Rels wrote:
On July 17 2017 00:30 Holyflare wrote:
Why do I claim cop here rels?

lol why should I know that. I'm actually pretty curious


you say I'm mafia 100% guaranteed and vote me

so why am I mafia?

because you're saying you have a red check on me
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 16 2017 15:57 GMT
#1784
On July 17 2017 00:56 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 00:51 Rels wrote:
On July 17 2017 00:40 emperorchampion wrote:
Jesus rels, I have no idea what I need to do to get town read this game. Clearly you haven't read a single thing I wrote this game.

You can start to convince me by answering the question in my end of night summary.


On July 16 2017 05:57 emperorchampion wrote:
- rels is super meh. Needs to explain why in his catching up just read only through rayns filter and just sheeped his top read

This ? I didn't read only through rayn's filter. I read VA's filter as he was the top lynch, said some stuff about it, then read rayn's filter because VA mentionned a rayn's case on him.


So at the moment you're just sheeping skynx' case on me? You definitely haven't read anything I wrote, and you think I'm scum, so there's no way I can trust you right now. Why do you feel so pressured to get reads out?

I'm not feeling pressured at all, on the contrary (= why do you feel so pressured to change my mind when you think I'm scum ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 16 2017 16:01 GMT
#1788
On July 17 2017 00:57 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 00:42 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 17 2017 00:38 geript wrote:
On July 17 2017 00:30 Holyflare wrote:
Why do I claim cop here rels?

Clearly because you're scum with me and Damdred and needed to make sure that the sheep wouldn't lynch us. Thank god for that "red check" of yours or we'd totally lose this game.


This legit terrifies me

Then you're being stupid. Like, I don't actually think I'd auto-lynch HF even if Rels wasn't scum/miller.

If you don't auto-lynch HF after I flip you're the one being stupid
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 16 2017 16:02 GMT
#1789
On July 17 2017 00:59 Koshi wrote:
Hi everybody. Missed me?

yeah p:
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 16 2017 16:03 GMT
#1791
On July 17 2017 00:59 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 00:57 Rels wrote:
On July 17 2017 00:56 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 17 2017 00:51 Rels wrote:
On July 17 2017 00:40 emperorchampion wrote:
Jesus rels, I have no idea what I need to do to get town read this game. Clearly you haven't read a single thing I wrote this game.

You can start to convince me by answering the question in my end of night summary.


On July 16 2017 05:57 emperorchampion wrote:
- rels is super meh. Needs to explain why in his catching up just read only through rayns filter and just sheeped his top read

This ? I didn't read only through rayn's filter. I read VA's filter as he was the top lynch, said some stuff about it, then read rayn's filter because VA mentionned a rayn's case on him.


So at the moment you're just sheeping skynx' case on me? You definitely haven't read anything I wrote, and you think I'm scum, so there's no way I can trust you right now. Why do you feel so pressured to get reads out?

I'm not feeling pressured at all, on the contrary (= why do you feel so pressured to change my mind when you think I'm scum ?


So you're town who just decides people are scum without reading their filter at all.

Well nice asset here.

? I've read your filter. If I'm scum there is 0 way I'm not dead before you; the only lynch I can get is HF in that scenario. Why would I invent stuff to push you ?
Nice degrading comment about me => usually comes from scum pushing town.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 16 2017 16:05 GMT
#1793
On July 17 2017 01:04 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 03:54 Holyflare wrote:
remember that rels guy that promised to be around? I sure do

+ Show Spoiler +


[image loading]


lol lame

lol stfu
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 16 2017 16:14 GMT
#1800
On July 17 2017 01:10 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 00:57 Rels wrote:
On July 17 2017 00:51 Holyflare wrote:
On July 17 2017 00:49 Rels wrote:
On July 17 2017 00:30 Holyflare wrote:
Why do I claim cop here rels?

lol why should I know that. I'm actually pretty curious


you say I'm mafia 100% guaranteed and vote me

so why am I mafia?

because you're saying you have a red check on me


and that's your sole reason for scum reading me? that I have a red check day 2?

You don't have a reason at all that I would have a red check on you if I was mafia? What's my motive?

yep
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 16 2017 16:15 GMT
#1802
HF let me do one last post to you.
I don't care if you are town. Faking a red check gets you lynched. No exception. It happened the last game you did it on, it will happen this game too.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 16 2017 16:16 GMT
#1805
On July 17 2017 01:15 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not fucking faking a red check I told you I would never do that again.

you are. The only other explanation is that there is a framer (unlikely with one shot cop + miller) AND they targeted me. Very very VERY unlikely
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 16 2017 16:16 GMT
#1807
but I can't convince yourself you're scum. So I'll ignore you
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 16 2017 16:18 GMT
#1811
On July 17 2017 01:15 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 01:07 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 17 2017 01:03 Rels wrote:
On July 17 2017 00:59 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 17 2017 00:57 Rels wrote:
On July 17 2017 00:56 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 17 2017 00:51 Rels wrote:
On July 17 2017 00:40 emperorchampion wrote:
Jesus rels, I have no idea what I need to do to get town read this game. Clearly you haven't read a single thing I wrote this game.

You can start to convince me by answering the question in my end of night summary.


On July 16 2017 05:57 emperorchampion wrote:
- rels is super meh. Needs to explain why in his catching up just read only through rayns filter and just sheeped his top read

This ? I didn't read only through rayn's filter. I read VA's filter as he was the top lynch, said some stuff about it, then read rayn's filter because VA mentionned a rayn's case on him.


So at the moment you're just sheeping skynx' case on me? You definitely haven't read anything I wrote, and you think I'm scum, so there's no way I can trust you right now. Why do you feel so pressured to get reads out?

I'm not feeling pressured at all, on the contrary (= why do you feel so pressured to change my mind when you think I'm scum ?


So you're town who just decides people are scum without reading their filter at all.

Well nice asset here.

? I've read your filter. If I'm scum there is 0 way I'm not dead before you; the only lynch I can get is HF in that scenario. Why would I invent stuff to push you ?
Nice degrading comment about me => usually comes from scum pushing town.


I'm legit frustrated because your reasons for thinking I'm scum are bs. But that's probably because you're scum so I should chill


Cooling off: what do you mean by inventing stuff to push me? You shouldn't need to invent anything.

Paraphrasing that you're saying I'm pushing you without reading your filter.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 16 2017 16:19 GMT
#1815
On July 17 2017 01:18 Koshi wrote:
I still think rsoultin is mafia.

For the emotional post ? I have the absolute opposite conclusion
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 16 2017 16:30 GMT
#1832
On July 17 2017 01:22 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 01:18 Rels wrote:
On July 17 2017 01:15 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 17 2017 01:07 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 17 2017 01:03 Rels wrote:
On July 17 2017 00:59 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 17 2017 00:57 Rels wrote:
On July 17 2017 00:56 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 17 2017 00:51 Rels wrote:
On July 17 2017 00:40 emperorchampion wrote:
Jesus rels, I have no idea what I need to do to get town read this game. Clearly you haven't read a single thing I wrote this game.

You can start to convince me by answering the question in my end of night summary.


On July 16 2017 05:57 emperorchampion wrote:
- rels is super meh. Needs to explain why in his catching up just read only through rayns filter and just sheeped his top read

This ? I didn't read only through rayn's filter. I read VA's filter as he was the top lynch, said some stuff about it, then read rayn's filter because VA mentionned a rayn's case on him.


So at the moment you're just sheeping skynx' case on me? You definitely haven't read anything I wrote, and you think I'm scum, so there's no way I can trust you right now. Why do you feel so pressured to get reads out?

I'm not feeling pressured at all, on the contrary (= why do you feel so pressured to change my mind when you think I'm scum ?


So you're town who just decides people are scum without reading their filter at all.

Well nice asset here.

? I've read your filter. If I'm scum there is 0 way I'm not dead before you; the only lynch I can get is HF in that scenario. Why would I invent stuff to push you ?
Nice degrading comment about me => usually comes from scum pushing town.


I'm legit frustrated because your reasons for thinking I'm scum are bs. But that's probably because you're scum so I should chill


Cooling off: what do you mean by inventing stuff to push me? You shouldn't need to invent anything.

Paraphrasing that you're saying I'm pushing you without reading your filter.


So you legitimately believe that I tmi'd va and that's why I voted him. That's the only reason I'm scum.

that's the absolute opposite.
No OK I see what you mean. Yeah, kinda. Keeping that list of people you wanted to lynch, then replacing Damdred / geript by me when they claimed; but you scumread me for a reason that was already in the thread at the time of your "people to look out for" list, but I wasn't in that list.
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