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yeh we just vote vivax today
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On July 20 2017 03:40 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 03:35 Rels wrote:On July 20 2017 03:33 emperorchampion wrote:
2. Rels clearly thinks he looks good by changing his vote at the last second, so I think your point is moot on that. You have to be kidding. On July 20 2017 02:54 Rels wrote:
like, in no ways that proves I'm town. But in no ways it proves I'm scum neither Last night you were defending your reasons for not voting sl by saying you voted him last minute. So a good thing in your mind.
yes, I was defending against yours and HF idea that I DIDNT try to vote TW over ruxxar. I never argued out of the blue that it looked good
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EC just use some simple logic if you're town and get out of the tunnel:
If you can read TW town then so can other people. It doesn't have to miraculously be a mafia ploy.
Now you're saying they're all town reading each other like it's some mega scheme but I also started town reading rels and sl and possibly but probably not TW and I'm not mafia so it doesn't make them mafia either.
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On July 20 2017 03:33 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 03:23 Holyflare wrote:On July 20 2017 03:18 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 03:14 Holyflare wrote:On July 20 2017 03:13 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 03:08 Holyflare wrote:
My two wagon choices are EC and Vivax What reasons do you have for thinking rels is town? his sl read just now seemed out of the blue and honest and I liked it and the fact that he's still trying to solve the game when there's literally just us three in the thread he's also scum reading vivax which is the correct thing to do and voting him which you're not even sticking to because you're mafia D: Idk about you, but it's just too coincidental that three players with poor filters, also happen to save each other, then come around on town reads on each other out of the blue. None of them have as primary lynch targets. It was looking for a while like rels was gonna get bussed. When I try interacting with sl and tumble about rels: not a single thing. no it's not coincidental in the slightest because: 1. Your TW read ALSO was updated to be that he was town because of tone etc at deadline: Tumblewood: has a few things going for him from previously for me, plus towny reaction around eod 2. Confirmed town also saved Tumblewood, who you town read AT THE SAME TIME AS THEM. 3. Rels looked awful from not placing his vote at the time. Mafia don't want to look awful. 4. Like I said before, mafia don't make these plans you're talking about. 5. SL pushed someone he thought was mafia over someone he said started looking towny, which you yourself thought too (tw looked towny), so SL is not mafia because he started pushing his mafia read (like last game  ). If confirmed town damdred/geript(at some point) could vote off TW and you said he was looking towny it's not a big stretch in the slightest that they could be town too. You have just started a narrative. You also arbitrarily have made Tumblewood mafia again FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON other than people saving him. This only makes sense in the world where you have to rewrite history. You town read TW at that same time, just like those people, you can't erase this and rewrite the narrative. 1. I can understand the reasons that the tumble related things don't make sense. To me my read was based on tone, but the way things look now it's bad to me. If you want other reasons to think he's scum you can look up koshi's case.2. Rels clearly thinks he looks good by changing his vote at the last second, so I think your point is moot on that. 3. It doesn't have to be a "plan" , sl just comes in and tries to get the vote off of tumble because he's a teammate
This is also hilarious.
Koshi I stated some reasons for night 1. His day 1 could be trying to do this low post thing, but failing as mafia. The reads thing with damdred could be pretty weak, but it's still there. Otherwise his progression through the day was hella weird, I'm town, then maybe not, now scum. Yeah I should've looked more into this earlier. To be fair to myself I said beforehand I wasn't really gonna do much today. There are many other inconsistencies that hf pointed out with respect to the tumble meta thing.
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I will think it over, but I'm not completely convinced I'm crazy yet.
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Why do you suddenly think koshi's case is good when you said I was pointing out all the inconsistencies earlier?
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The meta I may not agree with, the rest I think is fair
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So why have you not acknowledged that at any point until it suddenly fits your story?
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His most recent case I mean, that is pretty new.
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If koshi is town and vivax is town, this is the team I'm fairly sure. And those are not the worst assumptions to make.
I understand that association seems like a big part, but it's mostly corroborative. sl and tumble look super weak, and maybe to others rels doesn't look too bad. But from my perspective, I know his arguments are off, and he looks super scum to me.
It's all pre flip yes, but one of these guys needs to be flipped.
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On July 20 2017 04:05 emperorchampion wrote:
If koshi is town and vivax is town, this is the team I'm fairly sure. And those are not the worst assumptions to make.
those are literally the worst assumptions to make
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On July 20 2017 04:05 emperorchampion wrote:
I understand that association seems like a big part, but it's mostly corroborative. sl and tumble look super weak, and maybe to others rels doesn't look too bad. But from my perspective, I know his arguments are off, and he looks super scum to me.
No it doesn't make sense.
I'm not scum because I scumread Tumble but didn't vote him until the last second. It doesn't make anyone scum.
I'm not scum because of some master plan wher the scum team show face all at the same time. It almost never happens.
You say you're keeping an open mind. But I come and make good posts on Koshi and SL. Your top townread thinks you're scum because your reasons are so bad. But you're not changing. You're rigid. Probably 'cause you're scum.
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On July 20 2017 03:21 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 03:18 Rels wrote:
weird thing to say. EC did you find Damdred's read of geript bad ? It's not BS just because it's fabricated. Actually it's not fabricated since he knows geript is town, he can find stuff that makes him town with less doubts. So what made you think Damdred's read was bad ? I remember it being weird to have such a strong read early in the game off so little. The read itself is totally inconsequential to my point on koshi.
Yes it is totally consequential to your point on Koshi. It is BECAUSE you found Damdred's read weird that you found Koshi's weird scummy.
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On July 20 2017 04:19 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 03:21 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 03:18 Rels wrote:
weird thing to say. EC did you find Damdred's read of geript bad ? It's not BS just because it's fabricated. Actually it's not fabricated since he knows geript is town, he can find stuff that makes him town with less doubts. So what made you think Damdred's read was bad ? I remember it being weird to have such a strong read early in the game off so little. The read itself is totally inconsequential to my point on koshi. Yes it is totally consequential to your point on Koshi. It is BECAUSE you found Damdred's read weird that you found Koshi's weird scummy.
I acknowledged it was a weak point last night. But if you want to scratch it, then ok it's fine.
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Even damdy said that he presented the read in a towny way, so I didn't put too much weight on it. Not sure what you're getting at here
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On July 20 2017 04:18 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 04:05 emperorchampion wrote:
I understand that association seems like a big part, but it's mostly corroborative. sl and tumble look super weak, and maybe to others rels doesn't look too bad. But from my perspective, I know his arguments are off, and he looks super scum to me. No it doesn't make sense. I'm not scum because I scumread Tumble but didn't vote him until the last second. It doesn't make anyone scum. I'm not scum because of some master plan wher the scum team show face all at the same time. It almost never happens. You say you're keeping an open mind. But I come and make good posts on Koshi and SL. Your top townread thinks you're scum because your reasons are so bad. But you're not changing. You're rigid. Probably 'cause you're scum.
I have many other reasons you are scum, that I have stated previously. Actually tumble is more scum because of your actions, not the other way.
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I'm working through these things. I ain't the sharpest so it's coming
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On July 20 2017 02:43 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 02:40 Rels wrote:On July 20 2017 02:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:23 Rels wrote:
well seems like the game is becoming easy
SL is underwhelming but I have two things that makes me think he's town. The fact that he insta believed HF claim, when he's a scum player that tries to do sneaky stuff; I think as scum he tries to buddy HF by roleplaying the fakeclaim. And the fact that he doesn't have a read on me, he has a very hard time reading me. What do you mean by roleplaying the scum claim? I would think that believing it the easiest way to buddy. So hf is locked town for you also? I mean showing to HF hints that he knows he's fakeclaiming to appear smart. HF rapid change of reads over the last days make me think he's town How does he know it's a fake claim? Closed set up right.
Rels I still don't understand this point on sl
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On July 20 2017 04:45 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 02:43 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:40 Rels wrote:On July 20 2017 02:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:23 Rels wrote:
well seems like the game is becoming easy
SL is underwhelming but I have two things that makes me think he's town. The fact that he insta believed HF claim, when he's a scum player that tries to do sneaky stuff; I think as scum he tries to buddy HF by roleplaying the fakeclaim. And the fact that he doesn't have a read on me, he has a very hard time reading me. What do you mean by roleplaying the scum claim? I would think that believing it the easiest way to buddy. So hf is locked town for you also? I mean showing to HF hints that he knows he's fakeclaiming to appear smart. HF rapid change of reads over the last days make me think he's town How does he know it's a fake claim? Closed set up right. Rels I still don't understand this point on sl
On July 20 2017 02:45 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 02:43 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:40 Rels wrote:On July 20 2017 02:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:23 Rels wrote:
well seems like the game is becoming easy
SL is underwhelming but I have two things that makes me think he's town. The fact that he insta believed HF claim, when he's a scum player that tries to do sneaky stuff; I think as scum he tries to buddy HF by roleplaying the fakeclaim. And the fact that he doesn't have a read on me, he has a very hard time reading me. What do you mean by roleplaying the scum claim? I would think that believing it the easiest way to buddy. So hf is locked town for you also? I mean showing to HF hints that he knows he's fakeclaiming to appear smart. HF rapid change of reads over the last days make me think he's town How does he know it's a fake claim? Closed set up right. mmmmmmm because I'm town maybe ?
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On July 20 2017 04:51 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 04:45 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:43 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:40 Rels wrote:On July 20 2017 02:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:23 Rels wrote:
well seems like the game is becoming easy
SL is underwhelming but I have two things that makes me think he's town. The fact that he insta believed HF claim, when he's a scum player that tries to do sneaky stuff; I think as scum he tries to buddy HF by roleplaying the fakeclaim. And the fact that he doesn't have a read on me, he has a very hard time reading me. What do you mean by roleplaying the scum claim? I would think that believing it the easiest way to buddy. So hf is locked town for you also? I mean showing to HF hints that he knows he's fakeclaiming to appear smart. HF rapid change of reads over the last days make me think he's town How does he know it's a fake claim? Closed set up right. Rels I still don't understand this point on sl Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 02:45 Rels wrote:On July 20 2017 02:43 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:40 Rels wrote:On July 20 2017 02:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:23 Rels wrote:
well seems like the game is becoming easy
SL is underwhelming but I have two things that makes me think he's town. The fact that he insta believed HF claim, when he's a scum player that tries to do sneaky stuff; I think as scum he tries to buddy HF by roleplaying the fakeclaim. And the fact that he doesn't have a read on me, he has a very hard time reading me. What do you mean by roleplaying the scum claim? I would think that believing it the easiest way to buddy. So hf is locked town for you also? I mean showing to HF hints that he knows he's fakeclaiming to appear smart. HF rapid change of reads over the last days make me think he's town How does he know it's a fake claim? Closed set up right. mmmmmmm because I'm town maybe ?
How does sl know it's a fake claim?
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