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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 18:17 GMT
#2701
yes because my view is:

Damdred is probably mafia because he usually gives basic gut/tone reads at the beginning of the game so the fact he has multiple reasons to hardcore town read geript is scummy

koshi's is the complete opposite because he knew they were both town and made it so the read would fit

my read was the correct meta whereas koshi was probably bs tmi
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 19 2017 18:18 GMT
#2702
weird thing to say. EC did you find Damdred's read of geript bad ? It's not BS just because it's fabricated. Actually it's not fabricated since he knows geript is town, he can find stuff that makes him town with less doubts. So what made you think Damdred's read was bad ?
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 19 2017 18:18 GMT
#2703
On July 20 2017 03:14 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2017 03:13 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 20 2017 03:08 Holyflare wrote:
My two wagon choices are EC and Vivax


What reasons do you have for thinking rels is town?


his sl read just now seemed out of the blue and honest and I liked it and the fact that he's still trying to solve the game when there's literally just us three in the thread

he's also scum reading vivax which is the correct thing to do and voting him

which you're not even sticking to because you're mafia D:


Idk about you, but it's just too coincidental that three players with poor filters, also happen to save each other, then come around on town reads on each other out of the blue. None of them have as primary lynch targets. It was looking for a while like rels was gonna get bussed.

When I try interacting with sl and tumble about rels: not a single thing.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 19 2017 18:19 GMT
#2704
The association is association, maybe whatever, but all three are scummy in their own rights.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
July 19 2017 18:21 GMT
#2705
whoa vivax has only 4 posts?
good times for all
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 19 2017 18:21 GMT
#2706
On July 20 2017 03:18 Rels wrote:
weird thing to say. EC did you find Damdred's read of geript bad ? It's not BS just because it's fabricated. Actually it's not fabricated since he knows geript is town, he can find stuff that makes him town with less doubts. So what made you think Damdred's read was bad ?


I remember it being weird to have such a strong read early in the game off so little. The read itself is totally inconsequential to my point on koshi.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 19 2017 18:21 GMT
#2707
On July 20 2017 03:18 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2017 03:14 Holyflare wrote:
On July 20 2017 03:13 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 20 2017 03:08 Holyflare wrote:
My two wagon choices are EC and Vivax


What reasons do you have for thinking rels is town?


his sl read just now seemed out of the blue and honest and I liked it and the fact that he's still trying to solve the game when there's literally just us three in the thread

he's also scum reading vivax which is the correct thing to do and voting him

which you're not even sticking to because you're mafia D:


Idk about you, but it's just too coincidental that three players with poor filters, also happen to save each other, then come around on town reads on each other out of the blue. None of them have as primary lynch targets. It was looking for a while like rels was gonna get bussed.

When I try interacting with sl and tumble about rels: not a single thing.

mafia doesn't work like that. Scum team is not likely to show face like that. It can happen. But more likely than not it doesn't.
Andyou saying I have a poor filter when 90% of yours is targeted on questions that doesn't do anything + dumb reasons to scumread me is funny
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 19 2017 18:22 GMT
#2708
Call to arms in the qt! :D
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 18:23 GMT
#2709
On July 20 2017 03:18 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2017 03:14 Holyflare wrote:
On July 20 2017 03:13 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 20 2017 03:08 Holyflare wrote:
My two wagon choices are EC and Vivax


What reasons do you have for thinking rels is town?


his sl read just now seemed out of the blue and honest and I liked it and the fact that he's still trying to solve the game when there's literally just us three in the thread

he's also scum reading vivax which is the correct thing to do and voting him

which you're not even sticking to because you're mafia D:


Idk about you, but it's just too coincidental that three players with poor filters, also happen to save each other, then come around on town reads on each other out of the blue. None of them have as primary lynch targets. It was looking for a while like rels was gonna get bussed.

When I try interacting with sl and tumble about rels: not a single thing.


no it's not coincidental in the slightest because:

1. Your TW read ALSO was updated to be that he was town because of tone etc at deadline:

Tumblewood: has a few things going for him from previously for me, plus towny reaction around eod


2. Confirmed town also saved Tumblewood, who you town read AT THE SAME TIME AS THEM.

3. Rels looked awful from not placing his vote at the time. Mafia don't want to look awful.

4. Like I said before, mafia don't make these plans you're talking about.

5. SL pushed someone he thought was mafia over someone he said started looking towny, which you yourself thought too (tw looked towny), so SL is not mafia because he started pushing his mafia read (like last game ).

If confirmed town damdred/geript(at some point) could vote off TW and you said he was looking towny it's not a big stretch in the slightest that they could be town too. You have just started a narrative. You also arbitrarily have made Tumblewood mafia again FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON other than people saving him. This only makes sense in the world where you have to rewrite history. You town read TW at that same time, just like those people, you can't erase this and rewrite the narrative.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
July 19 2017 18:27 GMT
#2710
well this is holyf***e mafia all over again.
but hf, i don't think ec is scum just for doubting whether vivax is scum. it's inconsistent and all that, but i'd give him the benefit of the doubt. if it were a solid, veteran player maybe not, but i think ec has the potential to do weird flips like that as town.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
July 19 2017 18:29 GMT
#2711
newish players are possibly the worst to read for inconsistencies, because sometimes they will change or even forget their reads for no real reason
good times for all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 18:32 GMT
#2712
On July 20 2017 03:27 Tumblewood wrote:
well this is holyf***e mafia all over again.
but hf, i don't think ec is scum just for doubting whether vivax is scum. it's inconsistent and all that, but i'd give him the benefit of the doubt. if it were a solid, veteran player maybe not, but i think ec has the potential to do weird flips like that as town.


what's this supposed to mean?
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 19 2017 18:33 GMT
#2713
On July 20 2017 03:23 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2017 03:18 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 20 2017 03:14 Holyflare wrote:
On July 20 2017 03:13 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 20 2017 03:08 Holyflare wrote:
My two wagon choices are EC and Vivax


What reasons do you have for thinking rels is town?


his sl read just now seemed out of the blue and honest and I liked it and the fact that he's still trying to solve the game when there's literally just us three in the thread

he's also scum reading vivax which is the correct thing to do and voting him

which you're not even sticking to because you're mafia D:


Idk about you, but it's just too coincidental that three players with poor filters, also happen to save each other, then come around on town reads on each other out of the blue. None of them have as primary lynch targets. It was looking for a while like rels was gonna get bussed.

When I try interacting with sl and tumble about rels: not a single thing.


no it's not coincidental in the slightest because:

1. Your TW read ALSO was updated to be that he was town because of tone etc at deadline:

Show nested quote +
Tumblewood: has a few things going for him from previously for me, plus towny reaction around eod


2. Confirmed town also saved Tumblewood, who you town read AT THE SAME TIME AS THEM.

3. Rels looked awful from not placing his vote at the time. Mafia don't want to look awful.

4. Like I said before, mafia don't make these plans you're talking about.

5. SL pushed someone he thought was mafia over someone he said started looking towny, which you yourself thought too (tw looked towny), so SL is not mafia because he started pushing his mafia read (like last game ).

If confirmed town damdred/geript(at some point) could vote off TW and you said he was looking towny it's not a big stretch in the slightest that they could be town too. You have just started a narrative. You also arbitrarily have made Tumblewood mafia again FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON other than people saving him. This only makes sense in the world where you have to rewrite history. You town read TW at that same time, just like those people, you can't erase this and rewrite the narrative.


1. I can understand the reasons that the tumble related things don't make sense. To me my read was based on tone, but the way things look now it's bad to me. If you want other reasons to think he's scum you can look up koshi's case.

2. Rels clearly thinks he looks good by changing his vote at the last second, so I think your point is moot on that.

3. It doesn't have to be a "plan" , sl just comes in and tries to get the vote off of tumble because he's a teammate
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
July 19 2017 18:34 GMT
#2714
I don't feel that strongly about emc mafia after reading a bit of his filter. There was one thing I didn't like in particular but the bigger picture suggests town to me atm.

I think mafia can be anywhere in HF/Koshi/TW/Rels/Skynx atm. And I think Koshi is the best shot for today literally just for D1 with his minion stuff and followup lacking koshi passion even though in his later posts he starts putting in more effort.

I made a mistake replacing into the game cause I have things going on more important than mafia atm and I overestimated my will to catch up in the little time I'm not doing something else.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 19 2017 18:34 GMT
#2715
Look at the house of cards they built hf
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 19 2017 18:35 GMT
#2716
On July 20 2017 03:33 emperorchampion wrote:
2. Rels clearly thinks he looks good by changing his vote at the last second, so I think your point is moot on that.

You have to be kidding.
On July 20 2017 02:54 Rels wrote:
like, in no ways that proves I'm town. But in no ways it proves I'm scum neither

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 18:36 GMT
#2717
On July 20 2017 03:34 Vivax wrote:
I don't feel that strongly about emc mafia after reading a bit of his filter. There was one thing I didn't like in particular but the bigger picture suggests town to me atm.

I think mafia can be anywhere in HF/Koshi/TW/Rels/Skynx atm. And I think Koshi is the best shot for today literally just for D1 with his minion stuff and followup lacking koshi passion even though in his later posts he starts putting in more effort.

I made a mistake replacing into the game cause I have things going on more important than mafia atm and I overestimated my will to catch up in the little time I'm not doing something else.


then why the fuck did you vote ec yesterday?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 19 2017 18:37 GMT
#2718
On July 20 2017 03:34 Vivax wrote:
I don't feel that strongly about emc mafia after reading a bit of his filter. There was one thing I didn't like in particular but the bigger picture suggests town to me atm.

I think mafia can be anywhere in HF/Koshi/TW/Rels/Skynx atm. And I think Koshi is the best shot for today literally just for D1 with his minion stuff and followup lacking koshi passion even though in his later posts he starts putting in more effort.

I made a mistake replacing into the game cause I have things going on more important than mafia atm and I overestimated my will to catch up in the little time I'm not doing something else.

Why HF ? He wasn't in your last list post.
Why is Tumble more likely to be scum than before ? He aasn't in your last list post.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
July 19 2017 18:38 GMT
#2719
On July 20 2017 03:32 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2017 03:27 Tumblewood wrote:
well this is holyf***e mafia all over again.
but hf, i don't think ec is scum just for doubting whether vivax is scum. it's inconsistent and all that, but i'd give him the benefit of the doubt. if it were a solid, veteran player maybe not, but i think ec has the potential to do weird flips like that as town.


what's this supposed to mean?

in that game, vivax replaced in for superbia d3, made a couple WoT catching-up posts, and then hardly interacted with the game afterwards. a little more active than this game but not by much.
good times for all
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 19 2017 18:40 GMT
#2720
On July 20 2017 03:35 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2017 03:33 emperorchampion wrote:
2. Rels clearly thinks he looks good by changing his vote at the last second, so I think your point is moot on that.

You have to be kidding.
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2017 02:54 Rels wrote:
like, in no ways that proves I'm town. But in no ways it proves I'm scum neither



Last night you were defending your reasons for not voting sl by saying you voted him last minute. So a good thing in your mind.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
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