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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 17:09 GMT
#2641
You realise that in 120 hours of game time vivax has made 4 posts?

Two of those you hated because it wanted to lynch you based on incorrect information and dead rayn's outdated read.

Another one of those is the post I quoted above.

All of his filter is complete irrelevant trash that YOU hated. Now you want to lynch SL/Rels/anyone not vivax.

I don't buy it. Vivax is a good player, he doesn't make these posts and he especially does absolutely no interacting with anyone.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 17:09 GMT
#2642
and he always interacts with the thread*
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 17:12 GMT
#2643
These people look like town to me, but aren't quite locked:

[...]

Tumblewood: has a few things going for him from previously for me, plus towny reaction around eod


You even read Tumblewood town but now you're using Rels' deadline action and SL's actions to divert from TW to Ruxxar as scummy when you don't even scum read Tumblewood. You read him town because of towny reaction at deadline which SL also did AND diverted it because of those reasons. So why do you want to lynch SL when he's doing the exact things you're thinking? The caveat is that SL scum read Ruxxar so it's not even that bad.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 19 2017 17:16 GMT
#2644
I changed my mind. Koshi is scum. Dude usually has so much presence he gets NK N1 almost always. D1 maybe he couldn't play, but his play D2 and now is far from that.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 19 2017 17:17 GMT
#2645
I also agree Vivax is 99% scum. The post you quoted HF is so bad. So bad.
2/3
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 17:17 GMT
#2646
On July 18 2017 17:50 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2017 17:45 Holyflare wrote:
It's possible vivax is mafia but I will lose all my respect for rsoultin in the process.

Vivax play right now is absolutely mafia vivax. Like 100%. I told him his ec read was wrong and he didn't care and left.

But then that means rsoultin thing.....


It's a pretty shitty subject to talk about, but I was thinking that if rsoul was scum, she might have felt bad getting "town confirmed" off of her attitude. I don't think it's that likely tbh, but honestly what vivax did last night in combination for not posting for 72 hours is possibly the scummiest thing I have ever seen in mafia.


wtf zone
Vivax: this is some bullshit. Still bullshit that it's pretty much 50/50 based on other stuff with rsoul's spot. Strongly starting to suspect that he replaced into a red spot and didn't want to put any effort in.


On July 19 2017 05:12 emperorchampion wrote:
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On July 19 2017 05:05 Vivax wrote:
I'd put the mafia at Koshi, emc, one of Rels or Skynx atm.

TW has really improved his posting shape wise and his reads align with mine more or less (with exception of emc), but I'm afraid of TMI in his case and that he's trying to look shiny. For example I didn't like Ruxxars posting much during D1 and I'm not sure what made him townread him.

His read came down to this:

On July 14 2017 14:54 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 14 2017 14:50 geript wrote:
On July 14 2017 14:37 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 14 2017 08:14 ruXxar wrote:
On July 14 2017 07:54 geript wrote:
So Rux... what did you think of my case on Skynx?


1. Skynx case on Rayn is flawed and based on half truths.
Basically it's a misguided failure.
Whether that is intentional or not is another point.

It fails to capture the minute details that you would have acquired by being here during the conversation and be engaged in the details of the postings.

In fact I thought Rayn made some really good points about you geript, which made you look bad and Rayn really good.

Especially the point about "for better reasons" and where Rayn says you don't actually go on to reveal these "better reasons".

Maybe I'm just biased, but to me clearly Rayn looked better from that.

I basically am getting deja vu of how btdt played last game, except skynx has more polish in the way he presents things.

Maybe I'm repeating the same mistake I did from last game by calling it bad/uninformed town, but skynx is not my #1 lynch today.

i think rux has gotta be town

Why?

well firstly i don't think scum!rux is attacking skynx's case on someone else because of minute details. that is a very not mafia reason
and since i made that post i caught up fully and i am 100% sure on this


I think this isn't a strong reason to have at the time, at least an explanation on what he would expect mafia to do instead would be appreciated.
Besides the TMI thing he gives off good vibes so not lynching him tomorrow.

Koshi for his minion entry followed up by a very funless unkoshiesque D1. Emc had a semi helpful entrance. Skynx case on rayn looked slightly over the top to me at the time.

I'm kind of slightly caught up on both ends of the game but the middle is lacking atm and most player filters as well, so I'm just going to post un caught up and out of my ass for a while since I really have no connection to this game yet.


Vivax: why scum read on me, and you think I'm trying to bus koshi since day 1?

On July 19 2017 05:17 emperorchampion wrote:
Vivax: after 100+ pages you're scum reading both koshi and I based on our entry post?

On July 18 2017 05:18 emperorchampion wrote:
If vivax is actually scum jesus h christ

On July 18 2017 05:18 emperorchampion wrote:
Looking highly likely at this point

On July 18 2017 05:27 emperorchampion wrote:
How can you in good faith vote with vivax

Look at his last posts

On July 18 2017 05:29 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi vivax and ruxx most likely


this is bull shit EC, you have been saying vivax is scummy forever and suddenly his posts are too scumy to be scum and give him some time to respond?????? How long? 1000 hours?

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 19 2017 17:17 GMT
#2647
EC probably the third for this BS read on me, taht's only a nice story that proves nothing. Town does that too sometimes so maybe he's bad, but it's literally the only thing he's done for 50 hours.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 19 2017 17:18 GMT
#2648
TLDR ##Vote Vivax
Play or die
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 17:18 GMT
#2649
Vivax/EC
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 17:19 GMT
#2650
way way way too much defending on someone EC thought was scum
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 19 2017 17:23 GMT
#2651
well seems like the game is becoming easy
SL is underwhelming but I have two things that makes me think he's town. The fact that he insta believed HF claim, when he's a scum player that tries to do sneaky stuff; I think as scum he tries to buddy HF by roleplaying the fakeclaim. And the fact that he doesn't have a read on me, he has a very hard time reading me.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 19 2017 17:32 GMT
#2652
Like, Koshi this game when pushed by HF has the underhand. He's hurt by the pressure and tries to make the push lose credibility, sometimes by saying HF is mafia siding, sometimes by saying HF is scum.
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 17 2017 04:51 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 03:21 Holyflare wrote:
why has your playstyle miraculously deviated from your plan koshi?

This is a pretty horrible post btw. Trying to incriminate me for posting and playing. While the not playing and posting is the reason you scumread me.

On July 17 2017 07:58 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. gj HF pushing the idea I am mafia with TW. Probably not mafia, but always mafia siding.

On July 17 2017 17:07 Koshi wrote:
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On July 17 2017 16:03 Holyflare wrote:
And you say I'm mafia siding because you can't call me mafia :D :D

Nha I am saying you are mafia siding because you are probably not mafia. Just bad.

On July 17 2017 17:31 Koshi wrote:
You are probably really just mafia. Getting +1 ml today and then auto the thread tomorrow. Killing both Damdred and geript during the night and then D5 push the last ml for the win riding the cred from the TW lynch while everybody already forgot you lynched me.

It's a good plan. Kuddos.

Holyflare is mafia. Remember this on D5.

On July 17 2017 19:12 Koshi wrote:
I like how HF is twisting every post I make into something that it isn't and isn't even bothered with the content.
I don't say my list is confirmed worse than Skynx his. I am saying skynx is close to where I am and is doing it way cleaner than I am. So he is doing better. And I said it because I was rereading his filter. Nothing more. Nothing less.

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 16 2017 03:41 Skynx wrote:
I promissed a list so there we go

Never lynch town: rayn, HF, geript, Damdred
rayn has been the town pillar this game, not really need to say more + we had the exact same scumlist yesterday.
This is town HF, he's been diving into detail finding little stuff on Ruxxar that i liked, he was instantly on VA, etc. He is scumhunting decently so far.
geript and damdy are uncontested masons, breadcrumbed earlier + Show Spoiler +
On July 13 2017 08:44 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript is actually also prolly mafia
´


He's totally town brah


On July 13 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote:
Also I will burn this thread to the ground over geript, just so everyone knows.

I think rayb is also town.

Tina probably not town at this point, rux not sure but he's a bit nitpicky go me atm.


On July 13 2017 09:07 Damdred wrote:
I think geript is town for these reasons

1) he has no real motivation as scum. Look at his previous games and as scum he's a leader and always have a plan.

Here he's just eh.

2) He leaves himself in bad positions with his opinions. Like his opening post had no real logic behind it which us a town trait for geript early. As scum he could of fakes a reason instead he went eh Idk.

3) I just know he's town this game. (Imo)

so i don't really doubt the claim. There is a case where they do this as scum but that will be apparent if they don't die D2-3 anyway so don't have to worry about this read for a while

Town: rsoultinVivax
I bought tinas raging in the thread and now replacing out of emotion is really convincing. I don't see a mafia doing this, it would just be very unsportsmanlike (altho confirming Vivax like this is very dicky aswell)

Null: Rels, sicklucker
Unreadable boyz in da hood of D1, voted VA cuz VA is bad. Need to step up bigtime now.

Scum: TW, Ruxxar, emperor

They have all done objectively scummy shit, all in my filter so go look it up.

Koshi is on a category of his own, he hasn't done a towny thing so far so that warrants a scumread on its own but i just can't bring together a case looking at his filter. He needs to be lynched at some point if he keeps going like this.


On July 17 2017 19:39 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 19:35 Holyflare wrote:
On July 17 2017 19:29 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 19:18 Holyflare wrote:
On July 17 2017 19:12 Koshi wrote:
I like how HF is twisting every post I make into something that it isn't and isn't even bothered with the content.
I don't say my list is confirmed worse than Skynx his. I am saying skynx is close to where I am and is doing it way cleaner than I am. So he is doing better. And I said it because I was rereading his filter. Nothing more. Nothing less.

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 16 2017 03:41 Skynx wrote:
I promissed a list so there we go

Never lynch town: rayn, HF, geript, Damdred
rayn has been the town pillar this game, not really need to say more + we had the exact same scumlist yesterday.
This is town HF, he's been diving into detail finding little stuff on Ruxxar that i liked, he was instantly on VA, etc. He is scumhunting decently so far.
geript and damdy are uncontested masons, breadcrumbed earlier + Show Spoiler +
On July 13 2017 08:44 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript is actually also prolly mafia
´


He's totally town brah


On July 13 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote:
Also I will burn this thread to the ground over geript, just so everyone knows.

I think rayb is also town.

Tina probably not town at this point, rux not sure but he's a bit nitpicky go me atm.


On July 13 2017 09:07 Damdred wrote:
I think geript is town for these reasons

1) he has no real motivation as scum. Look at his previous games and as scum he's a leader and always have a plan.

Here he's just eh.

2) He leaves himself in bad positions with his opinions. Like his opening post had no real logic behind it which us a town trait for geript early. As scum he could of fakes a reason instead he went eh Idk.

3) I just know he's town this game. (Imo)

so i don't really doubt the claim. There is a case where they do this as scum but that will be apparent if they don't die D2-3 anyway so don't have to worry about this read for a while

Town: rsoultinVivax
I bought tinas raging in the thread and now replacing out of emotion is really convincing. I don't see a mafia doing this, it would just be very unsportsmanlike (altho confirming Vivax like this is very dicky aswell)

Null: Rels, sicklucker
Unreadable boyz in da hood of D1, voted VA cuz VA is bad. Need to step up bigtime now.

Scum: TW, Ruxxar, emperor

They have all done objectively scummy shit, all in my filter so go look it up.

Koshi is on a category of his own, he hasn't done a towny thing so far so that warrants a scumread on its own but i just can't bring together a case looking at his filter. He needs to be lynched at some point if he keeps going like this.



I never said anything about a list. I'm saying you're praising skynx who is voting off your tw wagon and not voting a scum read of yours while saying rels is mafia who is pushing a scum read of yours and looking at posts of ec, your scum read.

And then giving absolutely 0 content as to why any of these reads exist. Repeatedly.

If only I made a post pointing out him voting Rux while he said TW and Koshi are bussing each other. And then whined about it some more in a following post. In which I probably forgot to quote his vote.

If only...


Yes, I saw you did that but you never called him mafia like you did for rels.

Once more I don't understand your point here.
I'll categorize it under: "Shitty attempts trying to discredit Koshi"



Koshi last game when pushed by HF has the upperhand. He isn't hurt by the pressure and uses HF posts to gauge his alignment.
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 14 2017 19:13 Koshi wrote:
Now I am in this limbo in which I don't know if HF is trolling or mafia or bad.
Palmar probably trolling.

On June 14 2017 19:14 Koshi wrote:
But it is pretty mafia that HF is so convinced I am 3p though. He kinda disregarded the fact I could be mafia playing 3P a bit too easily imo.


We need to remember this fine piece of reasoning.

On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:
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On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.

Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too.

btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game.
You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense.
And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta.

On June 14 2017 20:32 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 20:24 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:17 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:13 Holyflare wrote:
But I am town though. I'm gonna destroy all anti-towns.

Why am I anti-town?


Started all depressing.

My push made you realise you didn't start with your town meta.

Got cased super hard by yourself and me about not following meta.

You've done nothing to push game forward.

Absolutely no 투혼.

3P/mafia koshi.

I was tired yesterday. I actually completely forgot the game.
Yes.
Nha, I am explaining it to people. See how they react. 2 people saw it but didn't write it down.
Lies. Once again I am top tier pushing the game forward.
Like kushmaster once said. The main reason people play mafia is to read about themselves. I am enjoying this and I have no problem with being lynched anymore. But it won't happen this game cuz I want to play.

On June 14 2017 20:49 Koshi wrote:
Either HF is town and bold because he thinks is right.
or
he is mafia and super amused that his bullshit is being gobbled up this easily.


I am going to run with option 1 because rayn hasn't done anything yet. And potential other mafia hasn't typed enough.

On June 14 2017 21:24 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 21:20 Palmar wrote:
koshi is HF mafia?

I already answered that Palmar.

If he is mafia:
He saw I opened with something odd for myself. Called me out and went to bed knowing he could blow it up in the morning, securing fake activity. Saw rayn doing something odd so he also called that out. That's 2 townleaders he is not working with but against in the thread. If both are town he is putting the entire thread in disarray and making it horrible for those 2 and others to find mafia. And on top of that everybody is gobbling up this Koshi is 3p story so it is working absolutely brilliantly. Nothing is being done. ggwp.



Now... I think he is more likely town. And I am on the lookout for the mafias.

On June 14 2017 23:43 Koshi wrote:
Town
TW town for calling fefe hilariously suspicious.
Fefe town for being ok with that and believing it.
Disformation town for not jumping on my wagon while thinking my opening was potential mafia. Also serious bait was hilarious, big laughs were had.
Beentheredonethat is more likely overeager “wrong” town than active pushing a wrong agenda mafia. And his aggressiveness continues over multiple pages, he is now quite confirmed town.
Damdred is town because his list post is very close to what I could think. Just like his read on me it comes from town and not mafia.
Darthfoley town because pushed the game forward with his Xatalos/Ruxxar posts. And overall is playing really well. Overall playing style he can do it as mafia but I don’t think he is doing it here as mafia.

Town with minus points.
Skynx started out a bit out of place. But picked it up very well. Sassy answer on btdt and loads of action.
Vivax made a pretty good read on Annul. But I don’t like his playstyle atm

Null
Holyflare his vote on me is incorrect. I don’t like how his gameplan feels set up.

On June 14 2017 23:48 Koshi wrote:
I also guess I should up HF a bit more.




It looks similar. But it's totally different. In the last game he's leading. If this game he's suffering.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 19 2017 17:38 GMT
#2653
On July 20 2017 02:23 Rels wrote:
well seems like the game is becoming easy
SL is underwhelming but I have two things that makes me think he's town. The fact that he insta believed HF claim, when he's a scum player that tries to do sneaky stuff; I think as scum he tries to buddy HF by roleplaying the fakeclaim. And the fact that he doesn't have a read on me, he has a very hard time reading me.


What do you mean by roleplaying the scum claim? I would think that believing it the easiest way to buddy. So hf is locked town for you also?
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 19 2017 17:39 GMT
#2654
On July 20 2017 02:17 Rels wrote:
EC probably the third for this BS read on me, taht's only a nice story that proves nothing. Town does that too sometimes so maybe he's bad, but it's literally the only thing he's done for 50 hours.


Heh
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 19 2017 17:40 GMT
#2655
On July 20 2017 02:38 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2017 02:23 Rels wrote:
well seems like the game is becoming easy
SL is underwhelming but I have two things that makes me think he's town. The fact that he insta believed HF claim, when he's a scum player that tries to do sneaky stuff; I think as scum he tries to buddy HF by roleplaying the fakeclaim. And the fact that he doesn't have a read on me, he has a very hard time reading me.


What do you mean by roleplaying the scum claim? I would think that believing it the easiest way to buddy. So hf is locked town for you also?

I mean showing to HF hints that he knows he's fakeclaiming to appear smart.
HF rapid change of reads over the last days make me think he's town
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 19 2017 17:41 GMT
#2656
So the town reads between rels, tumble and sl are coming out of the woodwork
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 19 2017 17:42 GMT
#2657
Vivax can still be scum, don't get me wrong, but this mafia team makes too much sense to me right now.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 19 2017 17:43 GMT
#2658
On July 20 2017 02:39 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2017 02:17 Rels wrote:
EC probably the third for this BS read on me, taht's only a nice story that proves nothing. Town does that too sometimes so maybe he's bad, but it's literally the only thing he's done for 50 hours.


Heh

it's true. If you're town you really need to stop spouting BS.
Your main argument for scumreading me is a story. It's not fact, it's not scum mindset, it's just a story, that might or might nor be true. It doesn't prove shit. That I scumread TW but didn't vote until the very end proves nothing.
Your argument that I'm asking shit questions make no sense too. First because it's against the facts, I don't remember asking you a lot of questions, the only thing I wanted an answer from you that I remember is the HF read. Second because it contradicts another post of yours where ytou say the exact opposite, that I'm scumreading you but not asking you questions.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 19 2017 17:43 GMT
#2659
On July 20 2017 02:40 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2017 02:38 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 20 2017 02:23 Rels wrote:
well seems like the game is becoming easy
SL is underwhelming but I have two things that makes me think he's town. The fact that he insta believed HF claim, when he's a scum player that tries to do sneaky stuff; I think as scum he tries to buddy HF by roleplaying the fakeclaim. And the fact that he doesn't have a read on me, he has a very hard time reading me.


What do you mean by roleplaying the scum claim? I would think that believing it the easiest way to buddy. So hf is locked town for you also?

I mean showing to HF hints that he knows he's fakeclaiming to appear smart.
HF rapid change of reads over the last days make me think he's town


How does he know it's a fake claim? Closed set up right.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 19 2017 17:45 GMT
#2660
On July 20 2017 02:43 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2017 02:40 Rels wrote:
On July 20 2017 02:38 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 20 2017 02:23 Rels wrote:
well seems like the game is becoming easy
SL is underwhelming but I have two things that makes me think he's town. The fact that he insta believed HF claim, when he's a scum player that tries to do sneaky stuff; I think as scum he tries to buddy HF by roleplaying the fakeclaim. And the fact that he doesn't have a read on me, he has a very hard time reading me.


What do you mean by roleplaying the scum claim? I would think that believing it the easiest way to buddy. So hf is locked town for you also?

I mean showing to HF hints that he knows he's fakeclaiming to appear smart.
HF rapid change of reads over the last days make me think he's town


How does he know it's a fake claim? Closed set up right.

mmmmmmm because I'm town maybe ?
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