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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 18 2017 21:57 GMT
#2581
emperorchampion is without a doubt town

there is nothing in this game that can change my mind, he was the only one here at night time trying to dive filters and point things out when nobody else was doing anything else

nothing can sway me
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 18 2017 22:02 GMT
#2582
vivax very likely mafia
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
July 18 2017 22:10 GMT
#2583
im not dead shocker
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
July 18 2017 22:16 GMT
#2584
On July 19 2017 06:07 Koshi wrote:
##vote tw

Not coting tw without an ironclad case why you wrpngfully believe he is town is claiming mafia


comeon hes lynch bait his reaction is as good as a town read you can get on this guy
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
July 18 2017 22:20 GMT
#2585
man im really gonna take a long break from this mafia thing. this is 3 lynches inarow where I was more or less the driving force and hammer of a town over possibly a mafia. Xatalos and im starting to think skyx is the inactive mafia here. Tw is probably town but who knows with my luck.

I am truly a shitstain this week I just dont have it anymore
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
July 18 2017 22:25 GMT
#2586
On July 15 2017 22:31 Skynx wrote:
Tomorrow's lynch should be TW, his vote is by far the worst.

This is all he had to say about VA:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 01:59 Tumblewood wrote:
lmao i just read va's ---sick play--- and it is so ridiculous he has to be town. plus on that reveal he just seems so excited


At the same time he's scumreading geript, stating his case on me is contradicting itself:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 03:23 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 14 2017 05:53 geript wrote:
Here's the reasons why I really want to lynch Skynx:

On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
I haven't completely read everything yet but I hate rayn most of everyone in the thread so far.

I always hate this sort of shit. It's a bland flat out statement that says that everything in the post is able to be ignored.

On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
I mean ok valid point but then they both keep on producing 3-4 pages of filter of absolutely nothing of value. This is the argument and thats it.

Anyway thats not the main point:

If ruxxar is mafia, doesn't that also make EC mafia? I mean you're scumreading Ruxxar for not enforcing his argument, which you consider the best post at the time.

The funny thing is that this prima facie is an ok summary. But the thing is that it's also irrelevant. It's kinda inconsistent of Rayn to apply X to Rux and not to EC, but that's how the world works. This is just pointing out an instance where there's an inconsistency which literally goes no where.

On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
That means you like the idea behind and if you actually paid attention, you would realise that makes EC mafia. Yet you post nothing on EC and focus on Ruxxar.

On top of that, if you actually think Ruxxar is mafia and if you are town, even if you don't notice it EC is mafia at the same time, that means Ruxxar is just attempting to bus his teammate as the first real action in the thread??

rayn's action don't add up here, not posting anything on EC is prolly the worst but he's just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion.

Skynx bothers to expand a decent bit on the inconsistency. But to what point?

The real kicker is here:
On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
This is the 'case' on geript. One post he calls terrible, doesn't explain why its terrible and that is enough for him to put geript into his 100% scumpile. Then he accuses Ruxxar for having bad reasons to scumread geript. Then geript makes a nice sizeable post, explaining his thought process and why nothing already been said doesn't make sense and this just gets ridiculed.

I posted my explanation here. Rayn posted his scumread on me 14 posts earlier here.

***BIG POINT READ THIS***
Skynx hasn't bothered to actually read Rayn's point. He's just picking at inconsistencies. Even worse, he hasn't read the whole thread, thinks Rayn is scum, AND HASN'T EVEN BOTHERED TO FILTER RAYN. Like the first thing you do when you think someone is scum is fucking filter them.

On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
rayn's [...] just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion.
[...]
I think rayn is a massive town distractive pile of scum trash. He's just talking a lot and hoping people would listen to him when he says "This guy is scum just follow me".

On July 13 2017 21:02 Skynx wrote:
On July 13 2017 20:59 Holyflare wrote:
Hey rayn. If you thought the case ruxxar posted to ec was good and ec didn't answer it properly why do you not engage ec on it?

Good point.


On July 14 2017 02:08 Skynx wrote:
On July 13 2017 22:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So skynx when you are off from the break here is the last thing i am gonna say about this:
You have three options:

1) I am town and i actually came to this game with a plan of yolo-townreading Koshi and Holyflare from the get go and focusing on posting something semi-garbage and figuring out connections thinking they would lead a day 1 lynch (as they are good at it, even if one of them is town) and then i would sheep and lay out all the shit i have on N1. Then i figured out ruxxar is mafia so i couldn't help myself stopping what i was doing and playing the game normally.

2) I am mafia and EC is mafia. I called ruxxar's post on him good (i think that's what you're trying to say?) and then i called out ruxxar for his case i know is good (since EC is mafia with me -- right?). And you think i am gonna roll with that? I must be the worst mafia player of all times.

3) I am mafia and EC is town. I called ruxxar's post on him good (i think that's what you're trying to say?) and then i called out ruxxar for his case i know is bad. And i could just go with the good case instead? I am directly contradicting myself and i came up with some bullshit reasoning (see (1)) before all of this happened? You should tell me I am a wizard!




Before you say "but that's what you are accusing geript of", no, it is not. geript looks like he did stuff and had the answers for possible concerns beforehand already, if you read what happened here and think i did the same then... again, you're a wizard harry.

+ Show Spoiler [only for tina's eyes] +
and no, that 1-day mafia was a one time thing. superbia fucked up imo and i thought i didn't have a choise. i always have a choise at the start of normal D1.

I think you are town now btw but if you had a plan and deviate from it means you're very sure on Ruxxar sr and all i get is the same thing over and over again.

Rayn is legit spamming the thread, something that's only gotten worse as the day has gone on. Skynx +1's a HF post on it. And 5 hours later is magically a townread.

On July 14 2017 03:03 Skynx wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:55 ruXxar wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:43 Skynx wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:38 Skynx wrote:
rayn, if you're 100% on VA that means you have your absolute scumteam in VA, Ruxxar, geript?


Where are you going with this

Cuz thats pretty optimistic having to have 3 very strong townreads in 1st 24 hours. I'm curious how he progresses his Ruxxar read as i think they are both town.


Me and who else is town? Geript?

Also, why does it matter how many scum reads he has?

Yes, I like geript for his reactions when rayn pushed him, felt natural and logical to me.

People who have never played with me before almost always think I'm scummy. Almost without exception. Additionally, I tend to have a very meandering logic to my thought process. So a player without any experience with me, finding my posts "natural and logical" is fucking alarm bells all over the place.
On July 14 2017 03:08 Skynx wrote:
Damdred please explaing geript and tina reads. I'm not buying the dull and boring on tina, she's not playing a town game at any rate until now which is pretty obvious but why not tell it that way?

Has read damdred's post on tina which is here but not the read on me which is here which is 5 fucking posts before it.

TLDR
1. Skynx downplays his own post
2. Skynx picks at trivial things
3. Skynx doesn't bother to filter Rayn
4. Skynx is legit not reading while trying to make it seem like he has

are the people attacking geript already all over this? cause if not i'm boutta write a sick case. cause point 1 directly contradicts point 4


But that's it, votes geript and pushes nothing more about it while his two townreads lead the vagon. On EoD, he switches me last min and;

Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote:
if i'm correct geript, ec, and damdred are masons?
don't like va lynch slightly more than skynx lynch

Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier

Why does that change things?

cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx

This is just a typical scum move when both wagons are town. His two page filter is shit in terms of opinion regarding me and VA. Can't stay on geript cuz he claimed so makes a pointless vote on losing wagon, trying to present it like it was saving a town.


On July 15 2017 23:06 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 22:57 emperorchampion wrote:
skynx: between rux and tumble who do you think is more likely to be mafia?

They are both mafia.


This guy wanted both them dead but didnt care enough to be here at deadline incase he had a chance to lynch one. Yes ruxxar was lynched completely because of his afk vote but he didnt know that could happen.

I think he didnt care because both of them are town. The pieces are starting to come together
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
July 18 2017 22:27 GMT
#2587
I think if I figure out rels alignment this game is really easy.

+ Show Spoiler +
too bad i cant ever do that FSDFSDFGFDH
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
July 18 2017 23:54 GMT
#2588
skynx, vivax, sl, and rels are all realistic 2nd/3rd scummers, in roughly that order. everyone else i am 90% sure i can write off. and if koshi is town i might as well give up
good times for all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 19 2017 00:03 GMT
#2589
Tw can you give a brief sentence on the ppl you town read and why?
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
July 19 2017 00:13 GMT
#2590
On July 19 2017 09:03 Holyflare wrote:
Tw can you give a brief sentence on the ppl you town read and why?

damdred - needs no explanation
you - been mostly calm and focused on doing the right stuff rather than being the most forceful person in the game. especially choosing to turn around on ec who would definitely be viable lynchbait
ec - on pgs 110-112 his play is very candid. sorta reminds me of myself as town. then his continued good play since then solidified it
damn, that was a lot fewer townreads than i thought i had
good times for all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 19 2017 04:07 GMT
#2591
Today we are going to pick 2 main wagons and vote for either of those two. No other wagon is allowed to be formed. You will be forced to actually place votes that matter now instead of copping out from vca by afking on irrelevant wagons.

It has been decided.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
July 19 2017 04:36 GMT
#2592
well im sure thats how all mafia should be played
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 19 2017 06:22 GMT
#2593
On July 19 2017 07:25 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 22:31 Skynx wrote:
Tomorrow's lynch should be TW, his vote is by far the worst.

This is all he had to say about VA:
On July 15 2017 01:59 Tumblewood wrote:
lmao i just read va's ---sick play--- and it is so ridiculous he has to be town. plus on that reveal he just seems so excited


At the same time he's scumreading geript, stating his case on me is contradicting itself:
On July 15 2017 03:23 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 14 2017 05:53 geript wrote:
Here's the reasons why I really want to lynch Skynx:

On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
I haven't completely read everything yet but I hate rayn most of everyone in the thread so far.

I always hate this sort of shit. It's a bland flat out statement that says that everything in the post is able to be ignored.

On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
I mean ok valid point but then they both keep on producing 3-4 pages of filter of absolutely nothing of value. This is the argument and thats it.

Anyway thats not the main point:

If ruxxar is mafia, doesn't that also make EC mafia? I mean you're scumreading Ruxxar for not enforcing his argument, which you consider the best post at the time.

The funny thing is that this prima facie is an ok summary. But the thing is that it's also irrelevant. It's kinda inconsistent of Rayn to apply X to Rux and not to EC, but that's how the world works. This is just pointing out an instance where there's an inconsistency which literally goes no where.

On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
That means you like the idea behind and if you actually paid attention, you would realise that makes EC mafia. Yet you post nothing on EC and focus on Ruxxar.

On top of that, if you actually think Ruxxar is mafia and if you are town, even if you don't notice it EC is mafia at the same time, that means Ruxxar is just attempting to bus his teammate as the first real action in the thread??

rayn's action don't add up here, not posting anything on EC is prolly the worst but he's just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion.

Skynx bothers to expand a decent bit on the inconsistency. But to what point?

The real kicker is here:
On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
This is the 'case' on geript. One post he calls terrible, doesn't explain why its terrible and that is enough for him to put geript into his 100% scumpile. Then he accuses Ruxxar for having bad reasons to scumread geript. Then geript makes a nice sizeable post, explaining his thought process and why nothing already been said doesn't make sense and this just gets ridiculed.

I posted my explanation here. Rayn posted his scumread on me 14 posts earlier here.

***BIG POINT READ THIS***
Skynx hasn't bothered to actually read Rayn's point. He's just picking at inconsistencies. Even worse, he hasn't read the whole thread, thinks Rayn is scum, AND HASN'T EVEN BOTHERED TO FILTER RAYN. Like the first thing you do when you think someone is scum is fucking filter them.

On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
rayn's [...] just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion.
[...]
I think rayn is a massive town distractive pile of scum trash. He's just talking a lot and hoping people would listen to him when he says "This guy is scum just follow me".

On July 13 2017 21:02 Skynx wrote:
On July 13 2017 20:59 Holyflare wrote:
Hey rayn. If you thought the case ruxxar posted to ec was good and ec didn't answer it properly why do you not engage ec on it?

Good point.


On July 14 2017 02:08 Skynx wrote:
On July 13 2017 22:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So skynx when you are off from the break here is the last thing i am gonna say about this:
You have three options:

1) I am town and i actually came to this game with a plan of yolo-townreading Koshi and Holyflare from the get go and focusing on posting something semi-garbage and figuring out connections thinking they would lead a day 1 lynch (as they are good at it, even if one of them is town) and then i would sheep and lay out all the shit i have on N1. Then i figured out ruxxar is mafia so i couldn't help myself stopping what i was doing and playing the game normally.

2) I am mafia and EC is mafia. I called ruxxar's post on him good (i think that's what you're trying to say?) and then i called out ruxxar for his case i know is good (since EC is mafia with me -- right?). And you think i am gonna roll with that? I must be the worst mafia player of all times.

3) I am mafia and EC is town. I called ruxxar's post on him good (i think that's what you're trying to say?) and then i called out ruxxar for his case i know is bad. And i could just go with the good case instead? I am directly contradicting myself and i came up with some bullshit reasoning (see (1)) before all of this happened? You should tell me I am a wizard!




Before you say "but that's what you are accusing geript of", no, it is not. geript looks like he did stuff and had the answers for possible concerns beforehand already, if you read what happened here and think i did the same then... again, you're a wizard harry.

+ Show Spoiler [only for tina's eyes] +
and no, that 1-day mafia was a one time thing. superbia fucked up imo and i thought i didn't have a choise. i always have a choise at the start of normal D1.

I think you are town now btw but if you had a plan and deviate from it means you're very sure on Ruxxar sr and all i get is the same thing over and over again.

Rayn is legit spamming the thread, something that's only gotten worse as the day has gone on. Skynx +1's a HF post on it. And 5 hours later is magically a townread.

On July 14 2017 03:03 Skynx wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:55 ruXxar wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:43 Skynx wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:38 Skynx wrote:
rayn, if you're 100% on VA that means you have your absolute scumteam in VA, Ruxxar, geript?


Where are you going with this

Cuz thats pretty optimistic having to have 3 very strong townreads in 1st 24 hours. I'm curious how he progresses his Ruxxar read as i think they are both town.


Me and who else is town? Geript?

Also, why does it matter how many scum reads he has?

Yes, I like geript for his reactions when rayn pushed him, felt natural and logical to me.

People who have never played with me before almost always think I'm scummy. Almost without exception. Additionally, I tend to have a very meandering logic to my thought process. So a player without any experience with me, finding my posts "natural and logical" is fucking alarm bells all over the place.
On July 14 2017 03:08 Skynx wrote:
Damdred please explaing geript and tina reads. I'm not buying the dull and boring on tina, she's not playing a town game at any rate until now which is pretty obvious but why not tell it that way?

Has read damdred's post on tina which is here but not the read on me which is here which is 5 fucking posts before it.

TLDR
1. Skynx downplays his own post
2. Skynx picks at trivial things
3. Skynx doesn't bother to filter Rayn
4. Skynx is legit not reading while trying to make it seem like he has

are the people attacking geript already all over this? cause if not i'm boutta write a sick case. cause point 1 directly contradicts point 4


But that's it, votes geript and pushes nothing more about it while his two townreads lead the vagon. On EoD, he switches me last min and;

On July 15 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote:
if i'm correct geript, ec, and damdred are masons?
don't like va lynch slightly more than skynx lynch

On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier

Why does that change things?

cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx

This is just a typical scum move when both wagons are town. His two page filter is shit in terms of opinion regarding me and VA. Can't stay on geript cuz he claimed so makes a pointless vote on losing wagon, trying to present it like it was saving a town.


Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 23:06 Skynx wrote:
On July 15 2017 22:57 emperorchampion wrote:
skynx: between rux and tumble who do you think is more likely to be mafia?

They are both mafia.


This guy wanted both them dead but didnt care enough to be here at deadline incase he had a chance to lynch one. Yes ruxxar was lynched completely because of his afk vote but he didnt know that could happen.

I think he didnt care because both of them are town. The pieces are starting to come together


So sl you think tumble is town?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 19 2017 06:28 GMT
#2594
Ugh I think of everyone rels has the best chance flipping scum right now, so I'm gonna park my vote there for now
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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
July 19 2017 07:03 GMT
#2595
i think hes 50/50 or better to be town which is not a good lynch right now
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 19 2017 07:13 GMT
#2596
Yeah I think he should be left out for now, go rels with me?
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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
July 19 2017 07:38 GMT
#2597
I would say hes my second or third option. doubt skyx gets any votes judging by thread sentiment
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
July 19 2017 07:39 GMT
#2598
if hf has his dream of a 2 man race it should probably be koshi vs rels. that gives us the most information too
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 19 2017 08:15 GMT
#2599
I don't understand you people.
I had a good night of sleep.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 19 2017 09:09 GMT
#2600
On July 19 2017 16:38 sicklucker wrote:
I would say hes my second or third option. doubt skyx gets any votes judging by thread sentiment

So skynx / rels, whos' the third for you?

On July 19 2017 16:39 sicklucker wrote:
if hf has his dream of a 2 man race it should probably be koshi vs rels. that gives us the most information too

Why does this give us the most information?
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