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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 18 2017 07:55 GMT
#2461
On July 18 2017 07:03 sicklucker wrote:
I said what? I would have voted ruxxar regardless of tumbles reaction. but because of tumbles good reaction I actively tried to get dandred to move which he did


I misread that which is why I initially scum read you. Thought it said you switched because of his reaction instead of making other people switch because of it.

But STILL that means you actively tried to sabotage the tw wagon before his towny outburst, the wagon that would have given us the MOST information possible.

Why did you even switch? What possible reason was there to lynch ruxxar over tw right at deadline when nothing had changed?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 18 2017 07:57 GMT
#2462
I'm super salty we didn't flip tw and potentially confirm koshi mafia
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 08:05 GMT
#2463
This game makes complete sense if damdy and geript are scum lol. Things are looking hella hard right now.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 08:13 GMT
#2464
I will admit that geript was correct on ruxxar
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 08:14 GMT
#2465
And skynx is still an unknown
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 18 2017 08:26 GMT
#2466
I don't think they are mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 18 2017 08:33 GMT
#2467
Rels town reads ruxxar, scum reads ec and tw. Around at deadline and does nothing to save ruxxar or hammer tw. (saw him on battlerite at deadline time too) :p

On July 17 2017 06:29 beentheredonethat wrote:
D2: Vote Count #3


  • Rels (5) - Holyflare, sicklucker, Skynx, Damdred, geript, ruXxar, Tumblewood
  • Koshi (2) - ruXxar, emperorchampion, Holyflare, Rels
  • Holyflare (1) - Rels, ruXxar
  • Tumblewood (1) - Koshi
  • emperorchampion (1) - Rels


Non-voters (1) - Vivax



Someone, apparently Rels, is about to leave us in (at Monday, Jul 17 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)).

Voting is mandatory!


These are the votes just before skynx decides it's far better to vote ruxxar than anyone else. Let's just remind ourselves that skynx reads these guys:

On July 17 2017 22:59 Skynx wrote:
I'm going out now, not gona be around EoD.

Lynching any of Koshi/TW/Rux is fine, im staying on rux just in case you guys wanna switch later on.

If anyone gets lynched i will be very upset tomorrow. Happy hunting.


As mafia. So why does he vote ruxxar afk off any wagon instead of rels or koshi or tw? Even says koshi is bussing tw but won't put his money where his mouth is.

On July 15 2017 06:02 beentheredonethat wrote:
D1: Final Vote Count


  • rsoultin (0) - Holyflare, Koshi, Damdred, VayneAuthority
  • ruXxar (0) - raynpelikoneet
  • Koshi (1) - ruXxar, rsoultin
  • emperorchampion (0) - rsoultin
  • raynpelikoneet (0) - sicklucker, Skynx
  • VayneAuthority (6) - raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, sicklucker, emperorchampion, Rels, Koshi
  • Skynx (5) - geript, ruXxar, Damdred, VayneAuthority, Tumblewood
  • geript (1) - Skynx

Non-voters (0) -



Looks like the grave for VayneAuthority is ready.


This is the second lynch in a row skynx has put his vote on an outlier instead of deciding on a wagon and just afkd the deadline.

I don't buy it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 18 2017 08:34 GMT
#2468
Skynx/rels are essentially the mafia team I have. Anyone else is up in the air.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 18 2017 08:35 GMT
#2469
On July 18 2017 06:10 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2017 06:09 Damdred wrote:
On July 18 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote:
koshi is 100% mafia and it's your fault he is not dying. i take 0% of the blame.
otherwise it's between rels, skynx, sl. or if there's another blue the masons could be scum, maybe. but if you do not lynching koshi tomorrow or you lynch ruxxar ever i will flame in postgame and obs


This felt and still feels like a town rage when he's getting lynched for stupid reasons in his mind.

maybe. Dunno. Will have to check meta to see if he can do it. But the fact that he showed up 15 min before deadline only after becoming the main wagon is a great scum indicator


Rels was also completely shitting all over tw at deadline AND STILL DIDN'T VOTE HIM.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 18 2017 08:39 GMT
#2470
On July 18 2017 04:45 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2017 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
Rels. Drop ec for now. Who is next lynch for you and why?

I'm not, it's the lynch I want. I would lynch TW over Koshi if it's between these two, but I don't think Koshi is scum.

On July 18 2017 05:49 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2017 05:47 Rels wrote:
lol TW showing up close to deadline only after becomiung the main wagon is a good sign

like, means he was probably monitering the thread. Percentage of chance is higher than just coincidence

On July 18 2017 06:10 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2017 06:09 Damdred wrote:
On July 18 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote:
koshi is 100% mafia and it's your fault he is not dying. i take 0% of the blame.
otherwise it's between rels, skynx, sl. or if there's another blue the masons could be scum, maybe. but if you do not lynching koshi tomorrow or you lynch ruxxar ever i will flame in postgame and obs


This felt and still feels like a town rage when he's getting lynched for stupid reasons in his mind.

maybe. Dunno. Will have to check meta to see if he can do it. But the fact that he showed up 15 min before deadline only after becoming the main wagon is a great scum indicator

On July 18 2017 06:17 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2017 06:14 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 18 2017 06:10 Rels wrote:
On July 18 2017 06:09 Damdred wrote:
On July 18 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote:
koshi is 100% mafia and it's your fault he is not dying. i take 0% of the blame.
otherwise it's between rels, skynx, sl. or if there's another blue the masons could be scum, maybe. but if you do not lynching koshi tomorrow or you lynch ruxxar ever i will flame in postgame and obs


This felt and still feels like a town rage when he's getting lynched for stupid reasons in his mind.

maybe. Dunno. Will have to check meta to see if he can do it. But the fact that he showed up 15 min before deadline only after becoming the main wagon is a great scum indicator

how can i get this through to you? i was here for a few hours until 1, and then the thread died for a bit so i went and did something else — of course i'm going to show up before deadline. would you prefer i not show up at all?
and you know who else showed up near deadline only when they were the lead wagon? koshi
this is a big leap of faith to explain why someone who was active for most of the day would show up 15 minutes before deadline

lol you can explain it all you want, I can verify your IRL story. I can only remark that you were not there the period before EOD, but showed up just before deadline when you became the main wagon

On July 18 2017 06:23 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2017 06:19 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 18 2017 06:17 Rels wrote:
On July 18 2017 06:14 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 18 2017 06:10 Rels wrote:
On July 18 2017 06:09 Damdred wrote:
On July 18 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote:
koshi is 100% mafia and it's your fault he is not dying. i take 0% of the blame.
otherwise it's between rels, skynx, sl. or if there's another blue the masons could be scum, maybe. but if you do not lynching koshi tomorrow or you lynch ruxxar ever i will flame in postgame and obs


This felt and still feels like a town rage when he's getting lynched for stupid reasons in his mind.

maybe. Dunno. Will have to check meta to see if he can do it. But the fact that he showed up 15 min before deadline only after becoming the main wagon is a great scum indicator

how can i get this through to you? i was here for a few hours until 1, and then the thread died for a bit so i went and did something else — of course i'm going to show up before deadline. would you prefer i not show up at all?
and you know who else showed up near deadline only when they were the lead wagon? koshi
this is a big leap of faith to explain why someone who was active for most of the day would show up 15 minutes before deadline

lol you can explain it all you want, I can verify your IRL story. I can only remark that you were not there the period before EOD, but showed up just before deadline when you became the main wagon

the point is, your argument requires a major leap of faith when a simple explanation where i am town exists

no. The leap of faith is believing that it was a coincidence you came back just after becoming the main wagon. The simple explanation is taht you came back BECAUSE you became the main wagon.


Even says he would lynch tw over Koshi because he thinks koshi is town which implies he votes to save town reads. So WHERE was he when ruxxar, the guy he was hard defending all day, was up for lynch???

Burying tw without actually voting him and afking on ec, that's where.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 18 2017 08:41 GMT
#2471
On July 17 2017 00:26 Rels wrote:
SL IDK at all.
ruxxar's rest of filter was super natural, I thought I had something with the way he was treating EC weirdly then all of sudden he townreads him. I think he even lock townread him. I was thinking I had something linkling ruxxar and EC together but the lock townread doesn't make sense in that case. I think he's town

On July 17 2017 06:23 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 06:14 Holyflare wrote:
Rels if you are green why are you not 100x over lynching ruxxar?

the way he thinks about the game makes me think of last game. Last game he had this idea of scum being in annul => he based all his game view on that. This game he sees you fakeclaiming a check => he's basing his game view on that. He watns to lynch you, and he doesn't understand why you're not voted.


Way more town to him than koshi. 0 vote saving.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 08:41 GMT
#2472
On July 18 2017 17:26 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think they are mafia.


Yeah, I'm just hella salty. Especially after reading through damdred's filter. Dude pretty much didn't even think I'm scum. This goes for vivax as well: you know one other thing that rayn was 100% on, VA was scum because he can never enter with his mafia meta. Oh wait.

Geript you need to untunnel asap, it's making this game nearly impossible for me right now.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 18 2017 08:43 GMT
#2473
Rels should absolutely be the lynch. He's hard defended all the scummy looking townies (koshi/ruxxar etc) and pushed people at points he should know he shouldn't push (someone turning up at deadline, someone having a read hidden etc).

His voting is the scummiest thing this game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 18 2017 08:45 GMT
#2474
It's possible vivax is mafia but I will lose all my respect for rsoultin in the process.

Vivax play right now is absolutely mafia vivax. Like 100%. I told him his ec read was wrong and he didn't care and left.

But then that means rsoultin thing.....
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 08:46 GMT
#2475
On July 18 2017 17:39 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2017 04:45 Rels wrote:
On July 18 2017 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
Rels. Drop ec for now. Who is next lynch for you and why?

I'm not, it's the lynch I want. I would lynch TW over Koshi if it's between these two, but I don't think Koshi is scum.

Show nested quote +
On July 18 2017 05:49 Rels wrote:
On July 18 2017 05:47 Rels wrote:
lol TW showing up close to deadline only after becomiung the main wagon is a good sign

like, means he was probably monitering the thread. Percentage of chance is higher than just coincidence

Show nested quote +
On July 18 2017 06:10 Rels wrote:
On July 18 2017 06:09 Damdred wrote:
On July 18 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote:
koshi is 100% mafia and it's your fault he is not dying. i take 0% of the blame.
otherwise it's between rels, skynx, sl. or if there's another blue the masons could be scum, maybe. but if you do not lynching koshi tomorrow or you lynch ruxxar ever i will flame in postgame and obs


This felt and still feels like a town rage when he's getting lynched for stupid reasons in his mind.

maybe. Dunno. Will have to check meta to see if he can do it. But the fact that he showed up 15 min before deadline only after becoming the main wagon is a great scum indicator

Show nested quote +
On July 18 2017 06:17 Rels wrote:
On July 18 2017 06:14 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 18 2017 06:10 Rels wrote:
On July 18 2017 06:09 Damdred wrote:
On July 18 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote:
koshi is 100% mafia and it's your fault he is not dying. i take 0% of the blame.
otherwise it's between rels, skynx, sl. or if there's another blue the masons could be scum, maybe. but if you do not lynching koshi tomorrow or you lynch ruxxar ever i will flame in postgame and obs


This felt and still feels like a town rage when he's getting lynched for stupid reasons in his mind.

maybe. Dunno. Will have to check meta to see if he can do it. But the fact that he showed up 15 min before deadline only after becoming the main wagon is a great scum indicator

how can i get this through to you? i was here for a few hours until 1, and then the thread died for a bit so i went and did something else — of course i'm going to show up before deadline. would you prefer i not show up at all?
and you know who else showed up near deadline only when they were the lead wagon? koshi
this is a big leap of faith to explain why someone who was active for most of the day would show up 15 minutes before deadline

lol you can explain it all you want, I can verify your IRL story. I can only remark that you were not there the period before EOD, but showed up just before deadline when you became the main wagon

Show nested quote +
On July 18 2017 06:23 Rels wrote:
On July 18 2017 06:19 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 18 2017 06:17 Rels wrote:
On July 18 2017 06:14 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 18 2017 06:10 Rels wrote:
On July 18 2017 06:09 Damdred wrote:
On July 18 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote:
koshi is 100% mafia and it's your fault he is not dying. i take 0% of the blame.
otherwise it's between rels, skynx, sl. or if there's another blue the masons could be scum, maybe. but if you do not lynching koshi tomorrow or you lynch ruxxar ever i will flame in postgame and obs


This felt and still feels like a town rage when he's getting lynched for stupid reasons in his mind.

maybe. Dunno. Will have to check meta to see if he can do it. But the fact that he showed up 15 min before deadline only after becoming the main wagon is a great scum indicator

how can i get this through to you? i was here for a few hours until 1, and then the thread died for a bit so i went and did something else — of course i'm going to show up before deadline. would you prefer i not show up at all?
and you know who else showed up near deadline only when they were the lead wagon? koshi
this is a big leap of faith to explain why someone who was active for most of the day would show up 15 minutes before deadline

lol you can explain it all you want, I can verify your IRL story. I can only remark that you were not there the period before EOD, but showed up just before deadline when you became the main wagon

the point is, your argument requires a major leap of faith when a simple explanation where i am town exists

no. The leap of faith is believing that it was a coincidence you came back just after becoming the main wagon. The simple explanation is taht you came back BECAUSE you became the main wagon.


Even says he would lynch tw over Koshi because he thinks koshi is town which implies he votes to save town reads. So WHERE was he when ruxxar, the guy he was hard defending all day, was up for lynch???

Burying tw without actually voting him and afking on ec, that's where.


Rels needs to explain quote 2 in particular.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 08:50 GMT
#2476
On July 18 2017 17:45 Holyflare wrote:
It's possible vivax is mafia but I will lose all my respect for rsoultin in the process.

Vivax play right now is absolutely mafia vivax. Like 100%. I told him his ec read was wrong and he didn't care and left.

But then that means rsoultin thing.....


It's a pretty shitty subject to talk about, but I was thinking that if rsoul was scum, she might have felt bad getting "town confirmed" off of her attitude. I don't think it's that likely tbh, but honestly what vivax did last night in combination for not posting for 72 hours is possibly the scummiest thing I have ever seen in mafia.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 08:53 GMT
#2477
Rayn literally staked everything in his day 1 play on VA being scum, who then flipped town. So to go and sheep one of his reads at the end of night phase off of a case that's total bs is just idk. It's making me mad just thinking about it, so I'm gonna stop here.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 09:11 GMT
#2478
On July 17 2017 08:29 Koshi wrote:
These last 5 votes have been so fucking horrible.

Based on a false accusation of HF.
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 02:26 sicklucker wrote:
##Vote Koshi


Completely wasted vote as nobody will join Rels ever. Great vote if you are both mafia though.
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 06:01 Rels wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote emperorchampion


Says 2 people are mafia. Votes a third.
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 06:38 Skynx wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Ruxxar


Well this one makes sense.
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 06:54 Tumblewood wrote:
##unvote
##vote koshi




On July 17 2017 20:11 Koshi wrote:
Yesterday Koshi believed there was mafia within rels/sl/tw/ec. He was 100% sure TW was mafia and pretty happy about that. The situation seemed to evolve into a breakdown of the Rels wagon into a TW vs Koshi showdown in which mafia was going to vote Koshi. Now Koshi didn't like that people went to random ass wagons like EC and Ruxxar because that was not going to be productive. But he might have been too fast on that.

Now Skynx voting Rux was just weird because he just said TW/Koshi was a bus. Annoying but what else can I do except point it out twice...
Rels voting EC was potential a smart mafia play. Because if the Rels wagon abolishes people are not going to vote with Rels most likely. Because he is still a mafia suspect. So if the mafia team is Rels/EC/TW what Koshi believes that is a smart play. However, Koshi, smart as he is, did not call Rels flat out mafia because he voted mafia because Koshi is not a retard and accepts votes on mafia. Koshi did however point out it could be a smart mafia play, because it could be a smart mafia play.


The bolded in particular can be a pretty good point, fairly early on too. The rest is garbage.

I'm a little biased on koshi since his stance on me is super bad, but he could be better than I thought.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 09:24 GMT
#2479
On July 17 2017 07:16 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 01:35 Koshi wrote:
Page 75. Don't think Ruxx is mafia.
Don't think EC is mafia.
Don't think HF is mafia.
Don't think rsoultin is mafia now lol.

Don't know about SL

Really don't think mafia geript and Damdred just go claim masons. Dumbest thing ever... So there is max 1 mafia and 1 retard.


Brings me to TW/Skynx and Rels.

I think that is all. 17 more pages.

I don't mind HF's reasons for voting you. Your read progression doesn't look natural to me. These come out of nowhere.
How can you townread Ruxxar? How can you now townread tina since she has not posted anything ai??

You townread EC here, then scumread based on sl association + my stuff on him then back to townreading him + Show Spoiler +
On July 17 2017 02:57 Koshi wrote:
EC is fine. I don't think he is mafia.

then back to scumread + Show Spoiler +
On July 17 2017 03:47 Koshi wrote:
TW/Rels/EC/sicklucker

Pretty happy with it.

???????????

Your sicklucker read is also weak as fuck and you should know that.
You don't believe the mason claim first but they crumbed it at the start and many people pointed it out.

Lots of inconsistencies here Koshi.


pg.75

The part bolded above. This point on koshi is hella weird. Page 75 is after vivax has swapped in. So there are absolutely reasons to town read rsoul's spot.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 18 2017 09:30 GMT
#2480
On July 18 2017 18:11 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 08:29 Koshi wrote:
These last 5 votes have been so fucking horrible.

Based on a false accusation of HF.
On July 17 2017 02:26 sicklucker wrote:
##Vote Koshi


Completely wasted vote as nobody will join Rels ever. Great vote if you are both mafia though.
On July 17 2017 06:01 Rels wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote emperorchampion


Says 2 people are mafia. Votes a third.
On July 17 2017 06:38 Skynx wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Ruxxar


Well this one makes sense.
On July 17 2017 06:54 Tumblewood wrote:
##unvote
##vote koshi




Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 20:11 Koshi wrote:
Yesterday Koshi believed there was mafia within rels/sl/tw/ec. He was 100% sure TW was mafia and pretty happy about that. The situation seemed to evolve into a breakdown of the Rels wagon into a TW vs Koshi showdown in which mafia was going to vote Koshi. Now Koshi didn't like that people went to random ass wagons like EC and Ruxxar because that was not going to be productive. But he might have been too fast on that.

Now Skynx voting Rux was just weird because he just said TW/Koshi was a bus. Annoying but what else can I do except point it out twice...
Rels voting EC was potential a smart mafia play. Because if the Rels wagon abolishes people are not going to vote with Rels most likely. Because he is still a mafia suspect. So if the mafia team is Rels/EC/TW what Koshi believes that is a smart play. However, Koshi, smart as he is, did not call Rels flat out mafia because he voted mafia because Koshi is not a retard and accepts votes on mafia. Koshi did however point out it could be a smart mafia play, because it could be a smart mafia play.


The bolded in particular can be a pretty good point, fairly early on too. The rest is garbage.

I'm a little biased on koshi since his stance on me is super bad, but he could be better than I thought.


That's exactly what I don't like about koshi. It's not "weird" it's scummy but all he does is point it out twice and then counteract that by saying how good skynx is looking straight after.

There's no push behind it at all. No emotion.
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