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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 08 2017 00:00 GMT
#1741
You know if Vivax were really town he'd have some non-trash final post, something other than "expect BH to bus"; I'm town as heck. Cause he'd want town to win. but he doesn't. I'm confident he'll flip scum.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 08 2017 00:00 GMT
#1742
If Vivax isn't scum I'll figuratively eat my hat
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 08 2017 00:02 GMT
#1743


Night Two


Day Two Final Vote Count

Vivax (7): Tubesock, Holyflare, Blazinghand, Conversion, Prison Break, ritoky, Tumblewood, Tubesock
Holyflare (2): Vivax, beentheredonethat, LightningStrike
ritoky (1): Grackaroni
Prison Break (1): beentheredonethat
Grackaroni (0): ritoky
beentheredonethat (0): Prison Break
Tumblewood (0): LightningStrike

Vivax the Vanilla Townie has been lynched.

You have 24 hours to submit your night actions. Make sure all actions are submitted via PM to both hosts. The cycle ends at Friday, Jun 09 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 08 2017 00:03 GMT
#1744
Well, as I said all along, Vivax could have flipped any alignment but it needed to be done.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 08 2017 00:03 GMT
#1745
ok
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 08 2017 00:05 GMT
#1746
I'm sorry you were saying something BH?
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 08 2017 00:05 GMT
#1747
On June 08 2017 09:03 Blazinghand wrote:
Well, as I said all along, Vivax could have flipped any alignment but it needed to be done.

This directly opposes what you said like 2 hours ago, when you basically implied "If I would townread him, I wouldn't lynch him."

That fakeclaim though.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 08 2017 00:06 GMT
#1748
You know as one of the few people to speak out against blindly lynching Vivax I feel vindicated here. You all were talking about how he's indisputably scum and I pointed out that he could have just been cartoonishly bad town. And unlike you guys my vote wasn't on Vivax at the end of day. If only you'd listened to me we'd have been fine. But instead I was ignored and Vivax was lynched. But I do respect that it had to be done, even if I didn't expect him to flip scum.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 08 2017 00:07 GMT
#1749
On June 08 2017 08:38 Prison Break wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
It's not scummy in the slightest. I'm forfeit from ever being solidly town read in a game by virtue of just being too damn good at scum.


For what it's worth I feel like the people not townreading me are doing it cause of me being scum last game mainly. It's no coincidence that you, me and TW all get heavy pressure

I feel like people are just ignoring a lot of stuff, like point out scummy things I'm doing, no they ignore Fidei vs me, and the fact my opinion/reads are almost the same as a lot of people. And I'm still someone possible scum but I don't see any good arguments for it

That said I do have a problem keeping up with the thread

That never happened.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 08 2017 00:10 GMT
#1750
On June 08 2017 09:06 Blazinghand wrote:
You know as one of the few people to speak out against blindly lynching Vivax I feel vindicated here. You all were talking about how he's indisputably scum and I pointed out that he could have just been cartoonishly bad town. And unlike you guys my vote wasn't on Vivax at the end of day. If only you'd listened to me we'd have been fine. But instead I was ignored and Vivax was lynched. But I do respect that it had to be done, even if I didn't expect him to flip scum.

Call me dumb but my D2 basically was:

1. Believe a claim without CC
2. Not scumread Vivax for the fake claim, especially since he rescinded.

In retrospective, the point where he rescinded should've made things clear: why does he rescind in the first place? To save himself? Impossible. So why does he rescind? Because HF claimed blue. Vivax does not have perfect information, so he believes the claim. At this moment, Vivax thinks "fuck, not only have I incorrectly faked a red check, but I have also outed the 2nd blue". So all he can do to save that potential second blue is un-claiming, thus allowing HF to also unclaim - or of course at least not get lynched and survive another night due to Tumblewood-doc being alive.

The rescind was a town tell.

"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
June 08 2017 00:11 GMT
#1751
On June 08 2017 08:57 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 08:55 Prison Break wrote:
On June 08 2017 08:49 Vivax wrote:
Just lynch HF tomorrow.


If you flip VT, which I doubt since I think you're scum, then really I don't understand your play at all, and you/others kept saying you wouldn't do this as VT either

If HF didn't fake blue, then the real blue would've been outed because why? I don't get it


Thought process being used here:

1) assume Tumblewood is real Doctor
2) Assume we only have two blues
3) Vivax claims Cop
4) Now, a hidden Cop thinks, "Vivax must be scum, because I am the real cop"
5) Enough time goes by, if it looks Vivax won't get lynched, the hidden cop counterclaims to make it true
6) this is really convenient for Scum Vivax, because now his final teammate catches a cop
7) this gets averted by HF's fake blueclaim

not saying this is true, but this is the thought process


It makes "sense" as scum, but I don't see it making sense as VT, is what I'm saying. It seems like a bad play as either alignment cause he just kind of gave up though. I'm still cool with the lynch fwiw.


Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 08 2017 00:12 GMT
#1752
Sorry BTDT please don't actually take the previous two posts seriously, those posts were jokes. I was being super confident Vivax was scum, and then he flipped town so I was loudly claiming to have always known he was town and never voted him even though I totally did. Those were jokes. I was just kidding around. I'm not serious about "I was the only one who didn't vote Vivax" or "I was the only one who defended him or pointed out he might be town"—these things are so far from what's true that it's completely impossible. Those are joke posts.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
June 08 2017 00:13 GMT
#1753
On June 08 2017 09:07 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 08:38 Prison Break wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
It's not scummy in the slightest. I'm forfeit from ever being solidly town read in a game by virtue of just being too damn good at scum.


For what it's worth I feel like the people not townreading me are doing it cause of me being scum last game mainly. It's no coincidence that you, me and TW all get heavy pressure

I feel like people are just ignoring a lot of stuff, like point out scummy things I'm doing, no they ignore Fidei vs me, and the fact my opinion/reads are almost the same as a lot of people. And I'm still someone possible scum but I don't see any good arguments for it

That said I do have a problem keeping up with the thread

That never happened.


I remember multiple people saying the flip didn't affect me, didn't change their thoughts on me, or similar things
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 08 2017 00:13 GMT
#1754
On June 08 2017 09:06 Blazinghand wrote:
You know as one of the few people to speak out against blindly lynching Vivax I feel vindicated here. You all were talking about how he's indisputably scum and I pointed out that he could have just been cartoonishly bad town. And unlike you guys my vote wasn't on Vivax at the end of day. If only you'd listened to me we'd have been fine. But instead I was ignored and Vivax was lynched. But I do respect that it had to be done, even if I didn't expect him to flip scum.

Also one more thing: tone-wise, this quoted piece is like "hey, we all wanted it, we all needed it, so it had to happen", brushing off any guilt. But you, BH, never believed in Vivax being cop in the first place. You actively pushed for a lynch, supporting HF super heavily, yet you say you're not townreading him. That's super suspicious.

Also note how HF is a total mistery to us now.
Whew. Okay. I'll go to bed now, it's 2 AM in the morning here.

Blabla setup speculation: if there's a vig in, PB, BH, HF are all solid targets. Maybe even me although I think my D2 should've made pretty clear that I'm town.

"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 08 2017 00:13 GMT
#1755
On June 08 2017 09:13 Prison Break wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 09:07 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 08 2017 08:38 Prison Break wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
It's not scummy in the slightest. I'm forfeit from ever being solidly town read in a game by virtue of just being too damn good at scum.


For what it's worth I feel like the people not townreading me are doing it cause of me being scum last game mainly. It's no coincidence that you, me and TW all get heavy pressure

I feel like people are just ignoring a lot of stuff, like point out scummy things I'm doing, no they ignore Fidei vs me, and the fact my opinion/reads are almost the same as a lot of people. And I'm still someone possible scum but I don't see any good arguments for it

That said I do have a problem keeping up with the thread

That never happened.


I remember multiple people saying the flip didn't affect me, didn't change their thoughts on me, or similar things

Can you please provide proof for the bolded part in the originally quoted post?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 08 2017 00:14 GMT
#1756
On June 08 2017 09:11 Prison Break wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 08:57 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 08:55 Prison Break wrote:
On June 08 2017 08:49 Vivax wrote:
Just lynch HF tomorrow.


If you flip VT, which I doubt since I think you're scum, then really I don't understand your play at all, and you/others kept saying you wouldn't do this as VT either

If HF didn't fake blue, then the real blue would've been outed because why? I don't get it


Thought process being used here:

1) assume Tumblewood is real Doctor
2) Assume we only have two blues
3) Vivax claims Cop
4) Now, a hidden Cop thinks, "Vivax must be scum, because I am the real cop"
5) Enough time goes by, if it looks Vivax won't get lynched, the hidden cop counterclaims to make it true
6) this is really convenient for Scum Vivax, because now his final teammate catches a cop
7) this gets averted by HF's fake blueclaim

not saying this is true, but this is the thought process


It makes "sense" as scum, but I don't see it making sense as VT, is what I'm saying. It seems like a bad play as either alignment cause he just kind of gave up though. I'm still cool with the lynch fwiw.




Well if you're still cool with the Vivax lynch I got good news to you, and bad news for you we're past the deadline now—scroll up.

Good news: We successfully lynched Vivax
Bad news: He was Town
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 08 2017 00:14 GMT
#1757
On June 08 2017 09:13 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 09:06 Blazinghand wrote:
You know as one of the few people to speak out against blindly lynching Vivax I feel vindicated here. You all were talking about how he's indisputably scum and I pointed out that he could have just been cartoonishly bad town. And unlike you guys my vote wasn't on Vivax at the end of day. If only you'd listened to me we'd have been fine. But instead I was ignored and Vivax was lynched. But I do respect that it had to be done, even if I didn't expect him to flip scum.

Also one more thing: tone-wise, this quoted piece is like "hey, we all wanted it, we all needed it, so it had to happen", brushing off any guilt. But you, BH, never believed in Vivax being cop in the first place. You actively pushed for a lynch, supporting HF super heavily, yet you say you're not townreading him. That's super suspicious.

Also note how HF is a total mistery to us now.
Whew. Okay. I'll go to bed now, it's 2 AM in the morning here.

Blabla setup speculation: if there's a vig in, PB, BH, HF are all solid targets. Maybe even me although I think my D2 should've made pretty clear that I'm town.



This was a joke post. this was a joke post. I was joking
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
June 08 2017 00:15 GMT
#1758
yea just realized I missed the flip

damn
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
June 08 2017 00:15 GMT
#1759
Like in the post I literally claim "my vote wasn't on Vivax at the end of the day" which is a TRIVIALLY FALSE FACT. IT IS A JOKE POST.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 08 2017 00:15 GMT
#1760
On June 08 2017 09:14 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 09:13 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 08 2017 09:06 Blazinghand wrote:
You know as one of the few people to speak out against blindly lynching Vivax I feel vindicated here. You all were talking about how he's indisputably scum and I pointed out that he could have just been cartoonishly bad town. And unlike you guys my vote wasn't on Vivax at the end of day. If only you'd listened to me we'd have been fine. But instead I was ignored and Vivax was lynched. But I do respect that it had to be done, even if I didn't expect him to flip scum.

Also one more thing: tone-wise, this quoted piece is like "hey, we all wanted it, we all needed it, so it had to happen", brushing off any guilt. But you, BH, never believed in Vivax being cop in the first place. You actively pushed for a lynch, supporting HF super heavily, yet you say you're not townreading him. That's super suspicious.

Also note how HF is a total mistery to us now.
Whew. Okay. I'll go to bed now, it's 2 AM in the morning here.

Blabla setup speculation: if there's a vig in, PB, BH, HF are all solid targets. Maybe even me although I think my D2 should've made pretty clear that I'm town.



This was a joke post. this was a joke post. I was joking

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