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beentheredonethat
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illidan needs a rework, he just isn't viable anymore. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On June 08 2017 07:24 Holyflare wrote: That's just because of the meta changes. New thrall looks good on ptr. I was never particularly good on him. New thrall? But I like old thrall. | ||
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On June 08 2017 09:03 Blazinghand wrote: Well, as I said all along, Vivax could have flipped any alignment but it needed to be done. This directly opposes what you said like 2 hours ago, when you basically implied "If I would townread him, I wouldn't lynch him." That fakeclaim though. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On June 08 2017 08:38 Prison Break wrote: For what it's worth I feel like the people not townreading me are doing it cause of me being scum last game mainly. It's no coincidence that you, me and TW all get heavy pressure I feel like people are just ignoring a lot of stuff, like point out scummy things I'm doing, no they ignore Fidei vs me, and the fact my opinion/reads are almost the same as a lot of people. And I'm still someone possible scum but I don't see any good arguments for it That said I do have a problem keeping up with the thread That never happened. | ||
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On June 08 2017 09:06 Blazinghand wrote: You know as one of the few people to speak out against blindly lynching Vivax I feel vindicated here. You all were talking about how he's indisputably scum and I pointed out that he could have just been cartoonishly bad town. And unlike you guys my vote wasn't on Vivax at the end of day. If only you'd listened to me we'd have been fine. But instead I was ignored and Vivax was lynched. But I do respect that it had to be done, even if I didn't expect him to flip scum. Call me dumb but my D2 basically was: 1. Believe a claim without CC 2. Not scumread Vivax for the fake claim, especially since he rescinded. In retrospective, the point where he rescinded should've made things clear: why does he rescind in the first place? To save himself? Impossible. So why does he rescind? Because HF claimed blue. Vivax does not have perfect information, so he believes the claim. At this moment, Vivax thinks "fuck, not only have I incorrectly faked a red check, but I have also outed the 2nd blue". So all he can do to save that potential second blue is un-claiming, thus allowing HF to also unclaim - or of course at least not get lynched and survive another night due to Tumblewood-doc being alive. The rescind was a town tell. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On June 08 2017 09:06 Blazinghand wrote: You know as one of the few people to speak out against blindly lynching Vivax I feel vindicated here. You all were talking about how he's indisputably scum and I pointed out that he could have just been cartoonishly bad town. And unlike you guys my vote wasn't on Vivax at the end of day. If only you'd listened to me we'd have been fine. But instead I was ignored and Vivax was lynched. But I do respect that it had to be done, even if I didn't expect him to flip scum. Also one more thing: tone-wise, this quoted piece is like "hey, we all wanted it, we all needed it, so it had to happen", brushing off any guilt. But you, BH, never believed in Vivax being cop in the first place. You actively pushed for a lynch, supporting HF super heavily, yet you say you're not townreading him. That's super suspicious. Also note how HF is a total mistery to us now. Whew. Okay. I'll go to bed now, it's 2 AM in the morning here. Blabla setup speculation: if there's a vig in, PB, BH, HF are all solid targets. Maybe even me although I think my D2 should've made pretty clear that I'm town. | ||
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On June 08 2017 09:13 Prison Break wrote: I remember multiple people saying the flip didn't affect me, didn't change their thoughts on me, or similar things Can you please provide proof for the bolded part in the originally quoted post? | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On June 08 2017 08:57 Blazinghand wrote: Thought process being used here: 1) assume Tumblewood is real Doctor 2) Assume we only have two blues 3) Vivax claims Cop 4) Now, a hidden Cop thinks, "Vivax must be scum, because I am the real cop" 5) Enough time goes by, if it looks Vivax won't get lynched, the hidden cop counterclaims to make it true 6) this is really convenient for Scum Vivax, because now his final teammate catches a cop 7) this gets averted by HF's fake blueclaim not saying this is true, but this is the thought process From your pre-flip perspective, why shouldn't this be true? This is exactly the scenario that justified your vote on Vivax. Why are you not saying it is true? What else should've been there, pre-flip? 1. You did not vote Fidei 2. You did actively push a mislynch on Vivax That BH/HF scenario from Vivax is perfectly possible in my mind. But I'm really worried about lynching into two of the most active players. Nevertheless, BH, imho you don't have too much towniness to yourself. Then again, you could've pushed me over the line but you were a great help for me to calm down, although at times, it felt like you even overstretched. Humm dumm. I feel like Treebeard humm-homming over things. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On June 08 2017 09:14 Blazinghand wrote: This was a joke post. this was a joke post. I was joking Blabla. I mean you scumreading Vivax is like super consistent, you wanted to lynch him D1 already. I think your voting thread filter has ##vote Vivax and maybe an ##unvote somewhere. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On June 08 2017 09:19 Prison Break wrote: This is your post after fidei's flip, which completely ignores the fact I wanted him dead and he was calling me out as well. Like it doesn't clear me out, of course, but I'd expect at least more than "k I still think this". For example last game I would also do this to sicklurker, and I was also scum there. Scum doesn't have incentive to change their mind after a flip, Town does. And I remember multiple people make posts like this, really I don't feel like digging them all up, unless if you actually think I'm lying / calling me out on it then I will. But right now I'd prefer to spend my time rereading what happened last X pages. Dude. Let me make it super clear: which completely ignores the fact I wanted him dead So here is what I want you to do: [big]Show me where you wanted him dead.[/show] | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On June 08 2017 09:19 Prison Break wrote: This is your post after fidei's flip, which completely ignores the fact I wanted him dead and he was calling me out as well. Like it doesn't clear me out, of course, but I'd expect at least more than "k I still think this". For example last game I would also do this to sicklurker, and I was also scum there. Scum doesn't have incentive to change their mind after a flip, Town does. And I remember multiple people make posts like this, really I don't feel like digging them all up, unless if you actually think I'm lying / calling me out on it then I will. But right now I'd prefer to spend my time rereading what happened last X pages. Dude. Let me make it super clear: which completely ignores the fact I wanted him dead So here is what I want you to do: Show me where you wanted him dead. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On June 08 2017 09:20 Blazinghand wrote: MY. VOTE. WAS. ON. VIVAX. AT. END. OF. DAY. 2. I know. You're misunderstanding me; that's a positive thing I'm mentioning  | ||
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On June 08 2017 09:20 Prison Break wrote: When filtering you I also came across the post again where you mentioned that we have a cop check and a red check and you were surprised I voted you (after I explained it) almost starting to wonder if you had perfect information (both vivax / HF being town?) Do you have any scumreads that do not start with b and end with tdt? What do you think about HF? What do you think about BH? Now that Vivax flipped, given that almost everyone voted Vivax, would you consider some of these die-hard Vivax voters to have perfect information (pre counter claim/rescind drama) or is it just me who has perfect information? Or, long story short: can you actually not only a) come in thread when I push you b) scumread me but also play the game so you get more readable and town profits? | ||
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beentheredonethat
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I'm pretty sure HF is town. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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Tubesock (voting Fidei #2) Tumblewood (blue claim, un-cc'ed, voting Fidei #3) Grackaroni (had the exact same thoughts about Vivax pre-claim as me, voting Fidei #4 - hammer?) Holyflare (#1774) Leaves: ritoky LightningStrike (But I think I townread him for some reason earlier already, didn't I?) Blazinghand Conversion (who disappeared) Prison Break (cased) Is it so easy that a) both newbies are scum together AND both voted outside the scum wagon D1? | ||
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beentheredonethat
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Well it makes sense to me | ||
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