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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 07 2017 19:10 GMT
#1561
On June 08 2017 04:08 Holyflare wrote:
He was waiting for a cc because he knew i was town and vivax couldn't be cop :D

No I don't know if you are town or not -.-
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 07 2017 19:11 GMT
#1562
On June 08 2017 04:07 ritoky wrote:
So were you actively watching the game and looking for a CC like you said LS or were you just afk and lying? Cuz the fact that you seem to have no clue about why grack isn't voting on hf or vivax when it is pretty clear if you read the thread, suggests the latter.

I skimmed the thread looking for a cc until I saw Vivax retracted his claim.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 07 2017 19:11 GMT
#1563
Also regarding Vivax, I get the argument that grack makes for how your play can come from a place of town anger and frustration.....but I have a hard time believing that you never once considered "what if everyone believes me and i am wrong? with this play". You take town from a place of lynching mafia to lynching back to back townies most likely.

Also why did you feel you had to make a play like this, you thought there's no way you can get hf lynched through conventional means?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 07 2017 19:14 GMT
#1564
On June 08 2017 03:58 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2017 17:19 Holyflare wrote:
On June 06 2017 23:32 Holyflare wrote:
I think he should be lynched and I don't care what he is. Based on his play yesterday only picking on inactives and lower down people and his demotivation after lynching mafia and fake claiming I'm very inclined to call him mafia.

The only thing giving me pause is the ridiculous amount of ignoring that's going on to this claim. Grack et al basically ignored it and nobody has done their favourite thing of instantly putting votes on me. Which makes me pause because they would know vivax was fake claiming to lynch a town and stay away from it.

So evidence based mafia, gut read from reactions fake claiming town.


Dun dun dunnnn


I mentioned grack.


must have been before where i was reading from or i just missed it. but this is different than "if viv town, then btdt 100% mafia". you just think the rest of grack's play differentiates him as more likely town?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 07 2017 19:14 GMT
#1565
On June 08 2017 04:11 ritoky wrote:
Also regarding Vivax, I get the argument that grack makes for how your play can come from a place of town anger and frustration.....but I have a hard time believing that you never once considered "what if everyone believes me and i am wrong? with this play". You take town from a place of lynching mafia to lynching back to back townies most likely.

Also why did you feel you had to make a play like this, you thought there's no way you can get hf lynched through conventional means?

Well he did sounded angry about the fact James got lynched instead EoD and was giving us shit about it.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 07 2017 19:14 GMT
#1566
On June 05 2017 02:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2017 01:23 Holyflare wrote:
LS what do you think if Fidei putting me in a mafia list with Tumblewood?

You might call it weird but I done that before myself agreeing with someone's point doesn't mean they don't townread you.


Yeh you did!
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 07 2017 19:15 GMT
#1567
On June 08 2017 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 04:03 ritoky wrote:
On June 07 2017 23:38 LightningStrike wrote:
Idk what to think honestly because it was very anti town of Vivax to try to do that claim stuff but it is a mostly stupid move for scum to do that unless he wanted to do a very big gamble. Yes I know scum was in a bad shot losing their GF Day 1 but it not impossible for them to come back and Vivax knows this. very mixed feelings on this honestly :\


why are you so afraid to make any reads this game?

I been thinking about rather the fact Vivax if he was the real cop (hint he retracted his claim) who was pissed off and didn't do shit after red checking HF but then later he unclaimed. I honestly can't tell whether it's scum Vivax doing a suicidal move or a depressed town Vivax.


being uncertain on vivax's alignment doesn't prevent you from having other reads. or conditional reads based on what he flips. do you have any of those?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 07 2017 19:16 GMT
#1568
On June 08 2017 04:14 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 03:58 Holyflare wrote:
On June 07 2017 17:19 Holyflare wrote:
On June 06 2017 23:32 Holyflare wrote:
I think he should be lynched and I don't care what he is. Based on his play yesterday only picking on inactives and lower down people and his demotivation after lynching mafia and fake claiming I'm very inclined to call him mafia.

The only thing giving me pause is the ridiculous amount of ignoring that's going on to this claim. Grack et al basically ignored it and nobody has done their favourite thing of instantly putting votes on me. Which makes me pause because they would know vivax was fake claiming to lynch a town and stay away from it.

So evidence based mafia, gut read from reactions fake claiming town.


Dun dun dunnnn


I mentioned grack.


must have been before where i was reading from or i just missed it. but this is different than "if viv town, then btdt 100% mafia". you just think the rest of grack's play differentiates him as more likely town?


It's not different it's an "oh these people aren't concerned about the claim on a hard to lynch holyflare so they must know more about the game and that I'm town" post.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 07 2017 19:16 GMT
#1569
Honestly I stopped giving a shit and have forgot like 90% if my reads since today. I'll do better after the flip.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 07 2017 19:16 GMT
#1570
On June 08 2017 04:14 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2017 02:04 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 05 2017 01:23 Holyflare wrote:
LS what do you think if Fidei putting me in a mafia list with Tumblewood?

You might call it weird but I done that before myself agreeing with someone's point doesn't mean they don't townread you.


Yeh you did!

That's your own fault for taking my words as gospel then. I didn't say he was town or scum based on that I just say you might call it weird -.-
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 07 2017 19:18 GMT
#1571
No it's your fault!
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 07 2017 19:19 GMT
#1572
On June 08 2017 04:15 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 08 2017 04:03 ritoky wrote:
On June 07 2017 23:38 LightningStrike wrote:
Idk what to think honestly because it was very anti town of Vivax to try to do that claim stuff but it is a mostly stupid move for scum to do that unless he wanted to do a very big gamble. Yes I know scum was in a bad shot losing their GF Day 1 but it not impossible for them to come back and Vivax knows this. very mixed feelings on this honestly :\


why are you so afraid to make any reads this game?

I been thinking about rather the fact Vivax if he was the real cop (hint he retracted his claim) who was pissed off and didn't do shit after red checking HF but then later he unclaimed. I honestly can't tell whether it's scum Vivax doing a suicidal move or a depressed town Vivax.


being uncertain on vivax's alignment doesn't prevent you from having other reads. or conditional reads based on what he flips. do you have any of those?

Got you likely town but still found it weird that you went on a off wagon EoD. BH could be town based on his reaction of potentially getting lynched but again he went off wagon pretty close to EoD. Grack I feel is very likely town because he playing similar to generic how he was somewhat trolly but later did try to put in some work. TS I will have to reread his filter and ofc TW is unCCed doctor.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 07 2017 19:19 GMT
#1573
On June 08 2017 04:18 Holyflare wrote:
No it's your fault!

Blaming me when you are considered the better player now that is strange to say at least.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 07 2017 19:21 GMT
#1574
On June 08 2017 04:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 04:15 ritoky wrote:
On June 08 2017 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 08 2017 04:03 ritoky wrote:
On June 07 2017 23:38 LightningStrike wrote:
Idk what to think honestly because it was very anti town of Vivax to try to do that claim stuff but it is a mostly stupid move for scum to do that unless he wanted to do a very big gamble. Yes I know scum was in a bad shot losing their GF Day 1 but it not impossible for them to come back and Vivax knows this. very mixed feelings on this honestly :\


why are you so afraid to make any reads this game?

I been thinking about rather the fact Vivax if he was the real cop (hint he retracted his claim) who was pissed off and didn't do shit after red checking HF but then later he unclaimed. I honestly can't tell whether it's scum Vivax doing a suicidal move or a depressed town Vivax.


being uncertain on vivax's alignment doesn't prevent you from having other reads. or conditional reads based on what he flips. do you have any of those?

Got you likely town but still found it weird that you went on a off wagon EoD. BH could be town based on his reaction of potentially getting lynched but again he went off wagon pretty close to EoD. Grack I feel is very likely town because he playing similar to generic how he was somewhat trolly but later did try to put in some work. TS I will have to reread his filter and ofc TW is unCCed doctor.


why isn't HF town? fear? respect? or something in particular?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 07 2017 19:22 GMT
#1575
It's all your fault.

Also tw isn't the unCCd doctor. He's mafia.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 07 2017 19:23 GMT
#1576
On June 08 2017 04:21 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 04:19 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 08 2017 04:15 ritoky wrote:
On June 08 2017 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 08 2017 04:03 ritoky wrote:
On June 07 2017 23:38 LightningStrike wrote:
Idk what to think honestly because it was very anti town of Vivax to try to do that claim stuff but it is a mostly stupid move for scum to do that unless he wanted to do a very big gamble. Yes I know scum was in a bad shot losing their GF Day 1 but it not impossible for them to come back and Vivax knows this. very mixed feelings on this honestly :\


why are you so afraid to make any reads this game?

I been thinking about rather the fact Vivax if he was the real cop (hint he retracted his claim) who was pissed off and didn't do shit after red checking HF but then later he unclaimed. I honestly can't tell whether it's scum Vivax doing a suicidal move or a depressed town Vivax.


being uncertain on vivax's alignment doesn't prevent you from having other reads. or conditional reads based on what he flips. do you have any of those?

Got you likely town but still found it weird that you went on a off wagon EoD. BH could be town based on his reaction of potentially getting lynched but again he went off wagon pretty close to EoD. Grack I feel is very likely town because he playing similar to generic how he was somewhat trolly but later did try to put in some work. TS I will have to reread his filter and ofc TW is unCCed doctor.


why isn't HF town? fear? respect? or something in particular?

I respect his scum game a lot but he more of a null read atm because of that.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 07 2017 19:23 GMT
#1577
On June 08 2017 04:22 Holyflare wrote:
It's all your fault.

Also tw isn't the unCCd doctor. He's mafia.

No it not my fault when you take things as gospel. Also why is TW mafia instead of being the unCCed doctor?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 07 2017 19:24 GMT
#1578
On June 08 2017 04:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 04:21 ritoky wrote:
On June 08 2017 04:19 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 08 2017 04:15 ritoky wrote:
On June 08 2017 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 08 2017 04:03 ritoky wrote:
On June 07 2017 23:38 LightningStrike wrote:
Idk what to think honestly because it was very anti town of Vivax to try to do that claim stuff but it is a mostly stupid move for scum to do that unless he wanted to do a very big gamble. Yes I know scum was in a bad shot losing their GF Day 1 but it not impossible for them to come back and Vivax knows this. very mixed feelings on this honestly :\


why are you so afraid to make any reads this game?

I been thinking about rather the fact Vivax if he was the real cop (hint he retracted his claim) who was pissed off and didn't do shit after red checking HF but then later he unclaimed. I honestly can't tell whether it's scum Vivax doing a suicidal move or a depressed town Vivax.


being uncertain on vivax's alignment doesn't prevent you from having other reads. or conditional reads based on what he flips. do you have any of those?

Got you likely town but still found it weird that you went on a off wagon EoD. BH could be town based on his reaction of potentially getting lynched but again he went off wagon pretty close to EoD. Grack I feel is very likely town because he playing similar to generic how he was somewhat trolly but later did try to put in some work. TS I will have to reread his filter and ofc TW is unCCed doctor.


why isn't HF town? fear? respect? or something in particular?

I respect his scum game a lot but he more of a null read atm because of that.


so no feelings or specifics that triggered that? just your generic brand "he's holyflare so if he is alive day 4 i am gonna lynch him cuz it is what you do" read?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 07 2017 19:26 GMT
#1579
On June 08 2017 04:24 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 04:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 08 2017 04:21 ritoky wrote:
On June 08 2017 04:19 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 08 2017 04:15 ritoky wrote:
On June 08 2017 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 08 2017 04:03 ritoky wrote:
On June 07 2017 23:38 LightningStrike wrote:
Idk what to think honestly because it was very anti town of Vivax to try to do that claim stuff but it is a mostly stupid move for scum to do that unless he wanted to do a very big gamble. Yes I know scum was in a bad shot losing their GF Day 1 but it not impossible for them to come back and Vivax knows this. very mixed feelings on this honestly :\


why are you so afraid to make any reads this game?

I been thinking about rather the fact Vivax if he was the real cop (hint he retracted his claim) who was pissed off and didn't do shit after red checking HF but then later he unclaimed. I honestly can't tell whether it's scum Vivax doing a suicidal move or a depressed town Vivax.


being uncertain on vivax's alignment doesn't prevent you from having other reads. or conditional reads based on what he flips. do you have any of those?

Got you likely town but still found it weird that you went on a off wagon EoD. BH could be town based on his reaction of potentially getting lynched but again he went off wagon pretty close to EoD. Grack I feel is very likely town because he playing similar to generic how he was somewhat trolly but later did try to put in some work. TS I will have to reread his filter and ofc TW is unCCed doctor.


why isn't HF town? fear? respect? or something in particular?

I respect his scum game a lot but he more of a null read atm because of that.


so no feelings or specifics that triggered that? just your generic brand "he's holyflare so if he is alive day 4 i am gonna lynch him cuz it is what you do" read?

Sort of. He blaming me for some bull shit stuff atm but he always look townie as both alignments with his posts.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
June 07 2017 19:30 GMT
#1580
On June 08 2017 03:44 ritoky wrote:
wasn't tubesock the guy who started the wave of votes onto fid though? why would he do that to a partner?


this is a valid and important point
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