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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
June 07 2017 07:37 GMT
#1384
And for those who don't know, HF did the same play as town at LYLO or something and lost the game right there so try to think about that when you revisit his attitude today.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
June 07 2017 07:42 GMT
#1387
On June 07 2017 16:38 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2017 16:37 Vivax wrote:
And for those who don't know, HF did the same play as town at LYLO or something and lost the game right there so try to think about that when you revisit his attitude today.


so HF did this as town at LYLO... therefore... he's .... scum?


HF did this as town at LYLO so as town he should be able to assess that this isn't a thing only mafia does.

More or less yes, therefore that also makes him scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
June 07 2017 07:55 GMT
#1399
Oh so HF was ACTUALLY the cop and ended up faking a check on a townie? Even better.

Either way I'm not BH so I'll keep the unproductive taunt posts to a minimum.

Facts:

1 ) HF pushes mafia and doubt on anyone this game as seen with LS and TW. He has no real townreads to speak of.

2 ) HFs D1 lynch of choice was the doctor and he called me mafia for suspecting a player who in his opinion was a pure coinflip when in fact it was a player actively doing nothing by posting exaggerated nonsense. He thought he proved anything by pointing out one game where he did the same as town but in that game he claimed cop 6 hours into D1 or something so it's invalid.

3) HF pointed out several things he didn't like in fideis filter earlier in D1 only to forget it all and start pushing LS the lynch bait right after (already quoted all of this ) and didn't lend Onegu a hand in lynching him after pointing all that out. He just lazily added his vote to the pile for the minuscule cred. This is exactly like him with TW in Generic and Tumble is just too derpy yet again to realize it and actually push this point even though they were mafia together.

I'd put TW at the grush57 level of derpiness this game classified as not-playing-teh-game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
June 07 2017 07:57 GMT
#1400
Btw Grack you owe me for pestering me in resistance while trying to kick sharkie out of teams so don't be a bitch and help a brotha out here.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
June 07 2017 07:58 GMT
#1401
It doesn't help that you play the austrian neutral diplomatic boring hogwash card in all matters instead of going guns blazing like you're expected to. Apparently you only do that when I push mafia and you're having a bad day and decide to start tunneling me.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
June 07 2017 08:07 GMT
#1404
On June 07 2017 17:01 Grackaroni wrote:
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On June 07 2017 16:57 Vivax wrote:
Btw Grack you owe me for pestering me in resistance while trying to kick sharkie out of teams so don't be a bitch and help a brotha out here.

I want to help you but most of these players aren't used to our shitty plays and they are going to want to punish you for this.

I also don't think either HF or BH are good lynches.

Off the top of my head I like Ritoky/Conversion lynches.

Also Tubesock is a definite possibility.


Well what I noticed this game is that fidei had reads that were off with what most others were thinking initially, then later kind of caught up and in his big post he ended up having reads that looked less suspicious. But I wrote him off as town for having weird reads so there's that.

It's possible TS is mafia for the same reason. He's kind of on a different wavelength than the rest and was kind of happy just suspecting me as mafia when I was being a dick so that seemed opportunistic but I like to think he's just wrong and tbh I don't even know this TS dude.

With ritoky the only thing I could think of is that he was proven around but not posting anything at deadline. As mafia he'd also have started into D1 with more smugposting I think.

HF is pretty much lock scum. With BH there's a chance he's just being selfish and trying to flood the game with his textual adventures for his own leisure instead of trying to win it
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
June 07 2017 08:14 GMT
#1408
Ritoky mafia is what I associate with

buddy everyone, try to be funny, be afk at deadlines while attaching to popular lynch targets. There was this game when he had his kid crying at night and woke up and actually checked into the game (as town).

This game he also seems a bit grumpy for rl reasons and his D1 tone was pretty much sherlock holmesih tone still so idk, feeling good about him town for now but I thought he was kind of reddish towards the end of the day cause he seemed disinterested into the whole HF and BH vs me shitfight.

Tbh I wrote off the discussion between you two as standard townie headbutting.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
June 07 2017 08:15 GMT
#1410
On June 07 2017 17:15 Blazinghand wrote:
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On June 07 2017 17:11 Blazinghand wrote:
So, if I think vivax and HF are both town hypothetically here, Grack, the most suspicious people are people who:

A) initially voted HF or were reluctant to vote Vivax
B) said they would 100% vote Vivax if he rescinded



By the way, this describes TO THE DOT what tubesock has been doing today:

Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 16:08 Tubesock wrote:
basically, we lynch HF unless Vivax rescinds then lynch Vivax. HF flips mafia we celebrate or lynch Vivax after. If we decide to lynch Vivax first, and he is cop then we just gave mafia a free nightkill.

So, basically now we can just talk about who is the last mafia.


Note that he wants to lynch HF, but never VOTES HF. due tot he pressure. He wants to kill both HF AND Vivax though. He also wants to lynch Vivax first if and only if Vivax recants.

I'm not saying Tubesock is scum, but in my opinion if you think both Vivax and HF are town, Tubesock should be your #1 scumread.


So in your opinion, TS is the dumbest mafia on earth.

OK bh
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
June 07 2017 08:17 GMT
#1414
There's also the super tinfoil theory that grack and ritoky knew me and HF were both town and then soft bussed each other when nobody else cared after saying I was vt.

But it's even too tinfoil for me. It crossed my mind though.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
June 07 2017 08:21 GMT
#1421
On June 07 2017 17:18 Grackaroni wrote:
I think I kinda forced the issue vis a vis Ritoky.



It does kind of read forced, like you two rented a room closed yourself off and started slapping each other taking turns while outside people were wondering what was going on.

A dry shitfight
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
June 07 2017 08:22 GMT
#1424
ITT: Scum Vivax escaping another lynch after doing dumb shit.

I have already poisoned your minds
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
June 07 2017 09:00 GMT
#1453
BTDT the salvation lies in the realization that if you spot a mafia trying to make you a leper, you try to kill the mafia trying to make you a leper.

BH and HF obviously aren't bad players so they will put everything they have at their disposal to use in order to trigger townies that are vulnerable to being portrayed as unreliable or easy to trigger.

For me it worked wonderfully cause I'm a person with a temper and you obviously too, but the only rational thing you can do is try to kill them with fire in the form of cases.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
June 07 2017 09:02 GMT
#1457
And yea you can kill me and all and nominate the worst play or whatever (like I care when I'm already one of the most insane players around), but then don't talk about it and instead pretend I'm dead and how you get HF and BH best to the chopping block next.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
June 07 2017 09:03 GMT
#1461
On June 07 2017 18:02 Blazinghand wrote:
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On June 07 2017 18:01 Blazinghand wrote:
like just btw can we (and i know this isn't a binding rule) maybe not threaten to quit TL Mafia forever because of what another player is doing? like jeez the community is already small enough

like if I did cross the line at some point with my attacks on you BTDT please inform the host and any mod/ban actions on me will be adjudicated by someone else


LMAO
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
June 07 2017 09:04 GMT
#1464
On June 07 2017 18:02 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2017 18:01 Blazinghand wrote:
like just btw can we (and i know this isn't a binding rule) maybe not threaten to quit TL Mafia forever because of what another player is doing? like jeez the community is already small enough

like if I did cross the line at some point with my attacks on you BTDT please inform the host and any mod/ban actions on me will be adjudicated by someone else

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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
June 07 2017 09:11 GMT
#1471
On June 07 2017 18:05 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax, in a world that myself and Blazinghand are town. And you are town. A stretch, I know. Who is mafia and why?


Really? Off the top of my hat ritoky and TS
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
June 07 2017 09:12 GMT
#1473
Like if you and BH are 100 % town, then mafia is 100 % ritoky and TS never backing off.

Maybe Grack but I'm in his pocket and I think he's lovely this game I just dislike when people play mafia hands off and are afraid to get burnt (it's the whole fun) . Don't care if I'm using it wrong you get the meaning.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
June 07 2017 09:15 GMT
#1477
On June 07 2017 18:13 Grackaroni wrote:
I could also pretty confidently vouch for Blazinghand.


What's your metric though you keep calling him town this game and it leaves me puzzled every time.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
June 07 2017 09:17 GMT
#1479
One of the valuable insights I've learned in my history of this game is that scandinavians absolutely loathe and hate being called mafia scum and will murder and pillage when being accused of it.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
June 07 2017 09:23 GMT
#1482
On June 07 2017 18:19 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2017 18:15 Vivax wrote:
On June 07 2017 18:13 Grackaroni wrote:
I could also pretty confidently vouch for Blazinghand.


What's your metric though you keep calling him town this game and it leaves me puzzled every time.


BH has put more effort into this day than 90% of the game. It's your very own day 1 metric that BH puts effort into analysis on town games. He's weighed up lynching between us all day and has generally been on the same wavelength as me all game. He's come to the conclusion you're mafia independently of your claim and is even trying to get people to play and molly coddling people so they stay and type more.

Even when you've rescinded he's still trying to work you out and get you to post more information.

I think he's pretty towny which is why it's perplexing why you think either of us are mafia.


No HF it's never perplexing to think you are mafia, especially this game with all the things I mentioned. I would say that you are mafia every game until proven innocent as a metric that anyone should use, and that's not even my metric this game as you know that I'm usually not the sort of guy who jumps to a conclusion on you quickly, it's just that you have done things that very likely make you mafia.

And people might have a point with BH it's just that D1 I saw someone posting without trying to achieve anything and just posting things for shits and giggles so by my metric, I think those people are often mafia. Cause just posting drivel that doesn't drive anything forward (jokes, commenting from the sidelines, obvious unserious posts) is one of the things I do as mafia.
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