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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
June 06 2017 06:00 GMT
#1101
vivax fakeclaimed vet?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 06 2017 06:07 GMT
#1102
On June 06 2017 15:00 Blazinghand wrote:
vivax fakeclaimed vet?


I'm assuming he misstyped Vivax in lieu of Holyflare.

Outside the Viv vs HF thing (unless you have something nonobvious to add), who's your last mafia?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 06 2017 06:27 GMT
#1103
BH,

I"m just having a hard time with reading you. You're only scums I can really tell from your filter are Grack and Vivax. Who I basically agree with. But if you only reason for scumming Grack is he lied about the RNG business, I don't like that. (Vivax will settle himself shortly anyway). Are there other's you are considering, or are you basically just hanging out to wait and see?

Where is your head?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 06 2017 06:45 GMT
#1104
On June 06 2017 11:06 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 11:01 Holyflare wrote:
Fake claiming rb isn't unheard of.

if anyone claims they were roleblocked they're lying. it even says in the op that you're explicitly told you were roleblocked even if you're vanilla. I was explicitly told that.


You just roleblock who you kill. Dead men tell no tales.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 06 2017 06:49 GMT
#1105
On June 06 2017 13:26 Conversion wrote:
can you two stop arguing with each other and can we talk about vivax's claim?

HF? any reply to his claim? defense? why are you suddenly so quiet you were pretty active night time


Because sometimes I have to sleep lol.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 06 2017 06:56 GMT
#1106
I mean i don't have anything to add other than vote vivax even if he's fake claiming. It's his own fault if he's throwing when we're in a good spot.

Not particularly hard to differentiate between us either. Vivax has pushed trash all game and he's mad mafia flipped :D
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 06 2017 07:01 GMT
#1107
On June 06 2017 13:14 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 13:08 Grackaroni wrote:
It didn't seem interesting to me when I didn't know he was scum.

Now that I do it does seem interesting to me.


like i said your narrative for me being mafia is "he called me mafia! oh and he quoted this post onegu made 2 days ago that i didn't care about, but now i do; cuz he plotted to lump me in with fidei in the off chance onegu became confirmed town and fidei died! also he made a really convincing case on btdt that i agreed with, makes him mafia too."

town find evidence and draw conclusions from it. you make conclusions and try to find evidence and warp a narrative to fit your constructed worldview, that's just basic mafia mindset.

Can we kill this guy?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 06 2017 07:04 GMT
#1108
On June 06 2017 16:01 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 13:14 ritoky wrote:
On June 06 2017 13:08 Grackaroni wrote:
It didn't seem interesting to me when I didn't know he was scum.

Now that I do it does seem interesting to me.


like i said your narrative for me being mafia is "he called me mafia! oh and he quoted this post onegu made 2 days ago that i didn't care about, but now i do; cuz he plotted to lump me in with fidei in the off chance onegu became confirmed town and fidei died! also he made a really convincing case on btdt that i agreed with, makes him mafia too."

town find evidence and draw conclusions from it. you make conclusions and try to find evidence and warp a narrative to fit your constructed worldview, that's just basic mafia mindset.

Can we kill this guy?


Maybe in a few days but from what I read of both your filters, I'll be lynching you before him.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 06 2017 07:05 GMT
#1109
What's wrong with my filter?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 06 2017 07:08 GMT
#1110
basically, we lynch HF unless Vivax rescinds then lynch Vivax. HF flips mafia we celebrate or lynch Vivax after. If we decide to lynch Vivax first, and he is cop then we just gave mafia a free nightkill.

So, basically now we can just talk about who is the last mafia.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
June 06 2017 07:11 GMT
#1111
On June 06 2017 15:27 Tubesock wrote:
BH,

I"m just having a hard time with reading you. You're only scums I can really tell from your filter are Grack and Vivax. Who I basically agree with. But if you only reason for scumming Grack is he lied about the RNG business, I don't like that. (Vivax will settle himself shortly anyway). Are there other's you are considering, or are you basically just hanging out to wait and see?

Where is your head?


I am primarily interested in the Vivax/HF stuff today. No matter what, we gotta play this shit out before we do anything else, or else we'll never be productive. I asked Vivax about his crumb, but unless he comes back and addresses my question... well there's nothing more to say about him. My post quoted his entire post-D1 filter.

There are NO possibiltiies such as Framer or Miller that allow for other things. So here's what has to be true, one of the following:

1) Vivax is Cop and HF is Mafia. Vivax is just an incredibly scummy fucker who happened to be Cop and he decided playing like this is the only way to get things done, we'll either believe him or we won't.
2) Vivax is Mafia and HF is Innocent. Vivax thinks he's dead in the water but wants to muck things up and get a 50% chance to at least take down a townie.
3) Vivax and HF are both Mafia (unlikely). Vivax is going down, but he wants to throw as much strength to HF as he can in the process, so he does this.
4) Vivax is not cop nor Mafia, and is being a trash player (very unlikely; Vivax wouldn't do this); HF could be Mafia or not

I consider Scenario 2 to be the most likely. however, Vivax deserves a chance to explain his crumbs and so on, so I'll wait for him to be back. It's itneresting observing you guys interact about this btw, and a bit disappoitning that at first nobody besides me seemed interested in the claim.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
June 06 2017 07:13 GMT
#1112
On June 06 2017 16:01 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 13:14 ritoky wrote:
On June 06 2017 13:08 Grackaroni wrote:
It didn't seem interesting to me when I didn't know he was scum.

Now that I do it does seem interesting to me.


like i said your narrative for me being mafia is "he called me mafia! oh and he quoted this post onegu made 2 days ago that i didn't care about, but now i do; cuz he plotted to lump me in with fidei in the off chance onegu became confirmed town and fidei died! also he made a really convincing case on btdt that i agreed with, makes him mafia too."

town find evidence and draw conclusions from it. you make conclusions and try to find evidence and warp a narrative to fit your constructed worldview, that's just basic mafia mindset.

Can we kill this guy?


Basically, right now it is highly probable that at least one of Vivax/HF is scum. We should focus on this first.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
June 06 2017 07:15 GMT
#1113
On June 06 2017 16:08 Tubesock wrote:
basically, we lynch HF unless Vivax rescinds then lynch Vivax. HF flips mafia we celebrate or lynch Vivax after. If we decide to lynch Vivax first, and he is cop then we just gave mafia a free nightkill.

So, basically now we can just talk about who is the last mafia.

So much faulty logic in this post..

Ok well first off, now that you've made this post, Vivax will not rescind right? lol

"If we decide to lynch Vivax first, and he is cop then we just gave mafia a free nightkill." If we decide to lynch HF first and Vivax is lying scum we ALSO just gave mafia a free kill :/ so like while technically your statement is true it is highly misleading because it implies the reverse isn't true.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 06 2017 07:19 GMT
#1114
On June 06 2017 16:05 Grackaroni wrote:
What's wrong with my filter?


I like Ritoky's filter better. Your argument with him just isn't convincing to me. Basically, he's scum because he only talked about him once (and scummed him) but called you out because you should have said something about Fidei?

I towned you earlier because of your shitfight with BH and you scummed btdt. But then later only had 1 guess and that was BH.

I also don't like how it's fairly difficult to keep track of your reads.

I'm having a hard time believing the whole emotional btdt is town bit. And think he's more likely mafia than you. or anyone else outside the Cop stuff.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 06 2017 07:20 GMT
#1115
On June 06 2017 16:13 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 16:01 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 06 2017 13:14 ritoky wrote:
On June 06 2017 13:08 Grackaroni wrote:
It didn't seem interesting to me when I didn't know he was scum.

Now that I do it does seem interesting to me.


like i said your narrative for me being mafia is "he called me mafia! oh and he quoted this post onegu made 2 days ago that i didn't care about, but now i do; cuz he plotted to lump me in with fidei in the off chance onegu became confirmed town and fidei died! also he made a really convincing case on btdt that i agreed with, makes him mafia too."

town find evidence and draw conclusions from it. you make conclusions and try to find evidence and warp a narrative to fit your constructed worldview, that's just basic mafia mindset.

Can we kill this guy?


Basically, right now it is highly probable that at least one of Vivax/HF is scum. We should focus on this first.

It's not though. Vivax got in a shit fight with HF during the day,

He was pissed off during the night and threatened to afk.

He comes back pissed off today with a red check on HF and then proceeded to afk.

This is shit fight 101. See Grackaroni mid-day today.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 06 2017 07:20 GMT
#1116
On June 06 2017 16:08 Tubesock wrote:
basically, we lynch HF unless Vivax rescinds then lynch Vivax. HF flips mafia we celebrate or lynch Vivax after. If we decide to lynch Vivax first, and he is cop then we just gave mafia a free nightkill.

So, basically now we can just talk about who is the last mafia.


No we don't, we lynch vivax.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 06 2017 07:24 GMT
#1117
Vivax has to die because he's either:

A) mafia fake claiming because he got fucked
B) town fake claiming because he's bad

Both ways I'm town and both ways he's a liability that should be removed.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 06 2017 07:26 GMT
#1118
On June 06 2017 16:19 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 16:05 Grackaroni wrote:
What's wrong with my filter?


I like Ritoky's filter better. Your argument with him just isn't convincing to me. Basically, he's scum because he only talked about him once (and scummed him) but called you out because you should have said something about Fidei?

I towned you earlier because of your shitfight with BH and you scummed btdt. But then later only had 1 guess and that was BH.

I also don't like how it's fairly difficult to keep track of your reads.

I'm having a hard time believing the whole emotional btdt is town bit. And think he's more likely mafia than you. or anyone else outside the Cop stuff.

Ritoky doing that isn't TMI but me not voting Tumblewood like a non-baddie is TMI somehow.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 06 2017 07:27 GMT
#1119
I mean you can tell from how many people are ignoring this claim and um-ing and ah-ing that I might be town that I'm definitely town. If vivax is town there's 2 mafia that know it's a fake claim and will ignore it. If vivax is mafia there's 1 partner that knows i will flip town and ignore it.

Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 06 2017 07:27 GMT
#1120
On June 06 2017 16:15 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 16:08 Tubesock wrote:
basically, we lynch HF unless Vivax rescinds then lynch Vivax. HF flips mafia we celebrate or lynch Vivax after. If we decide to lynch Vivax first, and he is cop then we just gave mafia a free nightkill.

So, basically now we can just talk about who is the last mafia.

So much faulty logic in this post..

Ok well first off, now that you've made this post, Vivax will not rescind right? lol

"If we decide to lynch Vivax first, and he is cop then we just gave mafia a free nightkill." If we decide to lynch HF first and Vivax is lying scum we ALSO just gave mafia a free kill :/ so like while technically your statement is true it is highly misleading because it implies the reverse isn't true.


I said we lynch HF unless Vivax rescinds then lynch Vivax.

How is that faulty?

True they do get a free nk anyway. I guess I'm trying to figure out the worst case scenario. Like I don't really want to be the town that kills the cop with a red check and later the redcheck. But Vivax outside of his claim looks pretty scummy.
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