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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 05 2017 16:42 GMT
#901
Yep once again I Blazinghand am helping so much
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
June 05 2017 17:08 GMT
#902
On June 05 2017 18:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
hahahaha fidei

I would've never caught him

good job Onegu. I'll go back to my retard corner and await the mislynch :D


This is suspicious and doesn't realize I tried to kill fidei and HF says I could be scum etc. - why do you think the entire scumteam is trying to kill each other? I think this is very scummy and I wonder if you realized it or just call people scum.
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
June 05 2017 17:18 GMT
#903
On June 05 2017 18:40 beentheredonethat wrote:
I still think PB is scum tho :O

And HF might also be because he was super duper late on Fidei

BH/Onegu town


EBWOP: ment to respond to this quote
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 05 2017 17:34 GMT
#904
On June 05 2017 11:56 Blazinghand wrote:
So the moral of the story is, once again Blazinghand carrying town to victory


what else do we possibly need?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 05 2017 18:17 GMT
#905
Hey ritoky how about some input? You had concerns about LS and he was on the mafia lynch and you ain't said shit.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
June 05 2017 18:25 GMT
#906
On June 05 2017 10:33 Prison Break wrote:
The vote switches happened last min or so, when I was trying to post my post which got flood control'd

Anyway I like Onegu, Tubesock, Tumblewood (claim ofc) for town. Not sure if I like vivax going from tumblewood to me etc.

Grack switching from me to Fidei is weird. Grack, can you explain to me why you did this? Especially since we kind of wanted each other dead. Was it a "one of them is scum", or, is there anything reason for this?

Grack: "HF might be scum for still thinking Fidei is scum. It's hard to be that self-righteous as scum. I think I gave him/her an asthma attack."

Grack to HF: "You're pushing Vivax for going against your reads which you don't even care about anymore because Vivax is scummier for opposing you?"

I'm really not sure what to make of this or what to think of you. Like are you just tunneled on HF or do you still think he's scum? That said you did say "I'm not looking to switch to HF he seems fine to me minus the pretty useless shit fight between you two earlier. His case on TW had good points even though he overlooked other things about Tumblewood." .

Do you think I could still be scum or does Fidei flip change that? I also want to know the reason you switched to me. Was it a post I made, or the fact I wasn't online? I'd say I wasn't online all the time last game either, but i was mafia there, so is that a reason you scumread me based on "meta"?

I did like that you called beentheredonethat out, do you think he is scum right now?

I didn't want you dead. I needed to switch to someone and you/Fidei were just in the group of people I was ok with lynching. The way Fidei grilled me made me think he was town at the time but that read wasn't as strong as some other ones.

I said the Vivax thing to HF because he was bitching about being the only one that makes any sense in the game.

I haven't looked into it but I don't think Fidei's flip will change much for you.

I probably wouldn't have lynched him due to his outburst, but I think it would be worthwhile to read through a few of his games and see if he uses a lot of emotion as scum.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 05 2017 18:49 GMT
#907
On June 06 2017 03:17 Holyflare wrote:
Hey ritoky how about some input? You had concerns about LS and he was on the mafia lynch and you ain't said shit.


i work graveyards in the ER so, i been at work and asleep.

i mean what do you want me to say? mechanics and my brain tells me that tomorrow we don't lynch anyone who voted on dead lynch mafia because that's optimal play; but i just think LS is mafia.

not only did he have basically no reads while being active and present all d1, but he wasn't even trying to get reads. plus that whole take 5 posts to list every possible scenario of vivax and hf arguing was just a steamy turd.

plus you look at his post lynch reaction and compare it to BH (who i think comes off incredibly town); and it's just bad. he is reaching for cred like he led a lynch or hammered a lynch when he is an extraneous vote on a basically 7 vote wagon, and has never even said anything relevant about the guy in his filter.

plus you go look at his filter in relation to fid:

On June 03 2017 20:10 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up not much going on except some really weird argument between TW and TS.
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 19:09 Fidei86 wrote:
Hi all! Long time no speak for a lot of you. I've played a bit of video Mafia since I've been away (which I'm horrible at, it turns out) but I'm excited to get back into forums.

I think TW's thinking makes sense if you assume he doesn't know TS's usual posting style (which I think is like almost comically formal); it wasn't immediately obvious to me that TS was joking either. But that said, I'm not sure that I buy TW's switch to town reading TS? TW doesn't recant on his thinking TS is dumb - but if TS is joking then obviously he doesn't believe it, and so isn't dumb?

I also don't like Vivax's read on TS. Asking about RNG lynches isn't driving the game forward either. I'd say TS is null and TW is scummy null; giving them both a town pass at this stage is waaay premature. But at the same time, I do really like Vivax pinging Grack. So overall TR.

The people I really don't like are Onegu, BH, Grack and LS. Everyone else can be forgiven for not being in the thread (HF is British I think, so he gets a pass as well) but each of those has been here and has studiously avoided saying anything meaningful. LS has, what, four or five posts, none saying anything even vaguely game related. I seem to recall LS has trouble getting started as Mafia... this would fit right into that.

Actually my last game I had trouble getting started too yet I was town? I guess you haven't followed any games in recent times lol.
Filter from last game: http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/mafia/521332-generic-mini-mafia-ii?user=LightningStrike
Granted it still early Day 1 atm.



Fidei puts tiny pressure on LS, LS posts a filter link. fidei just stops, then magically LS becomes a town lean.

On June 03 2017 22:52 LightningStrike wrote:
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On June 03 2017 22:36 Fidei86 wrote:
okay here's the thing I don't get: TW pointed out that TS's response to BH and the "rush" of posts was weird. I agree with TW insofar as that was the way I read it too, at first. But then TS said he was actually joking, which makes sense (and it fits in with TS' posting style insofar as I remember it from previous games). If it had ended there, fair enough. But then TW says "I still think what you said was weird, but you're towny" after TS had said it was a joke. That doesn't make sense to me. Like, TW landed pretty hard on TS for his initial read, and nothing changed other than TS claiming it wasn't serious, but TW's read flipped.

So that's why I think TW is on the scummy side of null (not because his posts were forced, as others were saying).

I too thought it was weird which is why I want TW to explain his townread on TS. The way he jumped on TS and later townreading him for that stuff being a joke is very unusual.


trashcan post about agreeing things are weird.

On June 05 2017 02:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2017 02:21 Fidei86 wrote:
LS can you give your top three scum? and top three town?

top 3 town:
Tubesock: Had some decent content that I agreed with.
Grack: Tone says town Grack over scum Grack atm he seems genuine with his posts to BH.
ritoky: Put in some work and read part of HF's filter from Generic plus decent content posts.
top 3 scum
BH: His push on Grack seems forced more or less and made a super big deal out of nothing? Also agreed with Tubeosck's point on him.
TW: Didn't really like his reasoning on his townread switch on TS. It just feels weird.
Honestly don't got a 3rd scum yet.



fidei tossing LS softballs.

i don't really think i am conf biasing
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 05 2017 19:03 GMT
#908
looking outside the ppl who voted mafia:

i think PB's post about his reaction to the lynch is pretty similar to mine, although him never delivering on his promised reads is meh. he came to the same conclusion i did about the 3 people i think are town because of the lynch and he looks toward the same spot i do for the mafia on the wagon (grack + ls). but when he starts saying things that make tons of sense to me, it's kinda the opposite of why i had him town leaned earlier.

btdt played the emo card on me and i am hard pressed to get over that. i think his filter and play isn't particularly townie, but he played the emo card....

conv is certainly not particularly useful at the moment, but i don't get the sense that he is malicious or mafia. i told him "stop doing this and give me reads." and then he immediately produced reads that seemed genuine; so i have a difficult time thinking he's mafia.

then vivax....i guess vivax COULD be mafia? but then i been pretty wrong this game. but doesn't vivax just see the runaway train and bus his partner for the nickle or dime's worth of credit he would get? i would have.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 05 2017 19:04 GMT
#909
On June 04 2017 16:13 Onegu wrote:
Grack leaves out Fword dude in his list post. But Fword dude has posted much and grack should have a opinion on him but doesnt...


i still like this too. maybe i should read gracks filter
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 05 2017 19:08 GMT
#910
ritoky why you wasted your vote EoD when it was clear no one was on me? That was extremely dumb and BH wasting his vote too was terrible we just got lucky on the shannies hitting scum.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
June 05 2017 19:12 GMT
#911
On June 06 2017 04:04 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 16:13 Onegu wrote:
Grack leaves out Fword dude in his list post. But Fword dude has posted much and grack should have a opinion on him but doesnt...


i still like this too. maybe i should read gracks filter

This is a framing!
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 05 2017 19:12 GMT
#912
On June 06 2017 03:49 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 03:17 Holyflare wrote:
Hey ritoky how about some input? You had concerns about LS and he was on the mafia lynch and you ain't said shit.


i work graveyards in the ER so, i been at work and asleep.

i mean what do you want me to say? mechanics and my brain tells me that tomorrow we don't lynch anyone who voted on dead lynch mafia because that's optimal play; but i just think LS is mafia.

not only did he have basically no reads while being active and present all d1, but he wasn't even trying to get reads. plus that whole take 5 posts to list every possible scenario of vivax and hf arguing was just a steamy turd.

plus you look at his post lynch reaction and compare it to BH (who i think comes off incredibly town); and it's just bad. he is reaching for cred like he led a lynch or hammered a lynch when he is an extraneous vote on a basically 7 vote wagon, and has never even said anything relevant about the guy in his filter.

plus you go look at his filter in relation to fid:

Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 20:10 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up not much going on except some really weird argument between TW and TS.
On June 03 2017 19:09 Fidei86 wrote:
Hi all! Long time no speak for a lot of you. I've played a bit of video Mafia since I've been away (which I'm horrible at, it turns out) but I'm excited to get back into forums.

I think TW's thinking makes sense if you assume he doesn't know TS's usual posting style (which I think is like almost comically formal); it wasn't immediately obvious to me that TS was joking either. But that said, I'm not sure that I buy TW's switch to town reading TS? TW doesn't recant on his thinking TS is dumb - but if TS is joking then obviously he doesn't believe it, and so isn't dumb?

I also don't like Vivax's read on TS. Asking about RNG lynches isn't driving the game forward either. I'd say TS is null and TW is scummy null; giving them both a town pass at this stage is waaay premature. But at the same time, I do really like Vivax pinging Grack. So overall TR.

The people I really don't like are Onegu, BH, Grack and LS. Everyone else can be forgiven for not being in the thread (HF is British I think, so he gets a pass as well) but each of those has been here and has studiously avoided saying anything meaningful. LS has, what, four or five posts, none saying anything even vaguely game related. I seem to recall LS has trouble getting started as Mafia... this would fit right into that.

Actually my last game I had trouble getting started too yet I was town? I guess you haven't followed any games in recent times lol.
Filter from last game: http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/mafia/521332-generic-mini-mafia-ii?user=LightningStrike
Granted it still early Day 1 atm.



Fidei puts tiny pressure on LS, LS posts a filter link. fidei just stops, then magically LS becomes a town lean.

Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 22:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 03 2017 22:36 Fidei86 wrote:
okay here's the thing I don't get: TW pointed out that TS's response to BH and the "rush" of posts was weird. I agree with TW insofar as that was the way I read it too, at first. But then TS said he was actually joking, which makes sense (and it fits in with TS' posting style insofar as I remember it from previous games). If it had ended there, fair enough. But then TW says "I still think what you said was weird, but you're towny" after TS had said it was a joke. That doesn't make sense to me. Like, TW landed pretty hard on TS for his initial read, and nothing changed other than TS claiming it wasn't serious, but TW's read flipped.

So that's why I think TW is on the scummy side of null (not because his posts were forced, as others were saying).

I too thought it was weird which is why I want TW to explain his townread on TS. The way he jumped on TS and later townreading him for that stuff being a joke is very unusual.


trashcan post about agreeing things are weird.

Show nested quote +
On June 05 2017 02:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 05 2017 02:21 Fidei86 wrote:
LS can you give your top three scum? and top three town?

top 3 town:
Tubesock: Had some decent content that I agreed with.
Grack: Tone says town Grack over scum Grack atm he seems genuine with his posts to BH.
ritoky: Put in some work and read part of HF's filter from Generic plus decent content posts.
top 3 scum
BH: His push on Grack seems forced more or less and made a super big deal out of nothing? Also agreed with Tubeosck's point on him.
TW: Didn't really like his reasoning on his townread switch on TS. It just feels weird.
Honestly don't got a 3rd scum yet.



fidei tossing LS softballs.

i don't really think i am conf biasing

James pretty much spewed me town although iffy at best but here the thing. I went on james because it was either TW who claimed doctor or BH who I felt had atownie reaction to wanting to get lynched over the doctor so I went with the james wagon. We got lucky there that James flipped scum. But that leaves the real question:
What the hell scum was doing EoD? The ycould of controlled the lynch yet they didn't. Do you think I would kill my gf that early regardless of what would happen when I care more about the team? I wouldn't risk losing a scum member to shannies at all hell I wouldn't risk it even more on the gf. Also James questions to me I was actually being honest right there I had no 3rd option right at that time.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 05 2017 19:15 GMT
#913
ritoky just admit you can't read me for shit especially in the Im the Cop You Idiot game -.-
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 05 2017 19:17 GMT
#914
Also here my doubts of James flipping scum:
On June 05 2017 08:58 LightningStrike wrote:
I not feeling good about this switch to james now with everyone jumping on broad.

I was rather surprised about the flip there as shown here:
On June 05 2017 09:10 LightningStrike wrote:
lmao didn't expect that flip. Either mafia was afk EoD or are willing to bus James for no reason.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 05 2017 19:19 GMT
#915
Like if you thought I was going for credit there I wasn't I was just showing my pure emotions at the lynch.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 05 2017 19:24 GMT
#916
grack's filter is interesting, some highlights

On June 04 2017 23:41 Grackaroni wrote:
HF might be scum for still thinking Fidei is scum. It's hard to be that self-righteous as scum. I think I gave him/her an asthma attack.


so this wasn't a strong read of yours but it was strong enough for hf to be considered mafia for disagreeing with it?

On June 05 2017 06:13 Grackaroni wrote:
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On June 05 2017 05:56 ritoky wrote:
grack who is mafia?

Not sure. I don't see any major slips anywhere.


no reads, non-commital

On June 05 2017 06:57 Grackaroni wrote:
I think your case is solid but I still kind of like him because he's being snarky and more defiant in this game. The other problem is that he's not exactly known to make very much sense as town.


re: TW pre-claim. potential TMI pre-emptive defense.

On June 05 2017 07:35 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2017 07:35 Tumblewood wrote:
you know, if we wanted we could lynch onegu for not doing shit

I'm down with this idea.


On June 05 2017 07:39 Grackaroni wrote:
Onegu's big post is something I've never seen him do before and it wasn't all that useful.


but then sheeps onegu's read? huh?

On June 05 2017 08:53 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm going to consolidate to Prison Break.


would appear he preferred the shennanies fall on someone else

On June 05 2017 08:54 Grackaroni wrote:
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On June 05 2017 08:53 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm going to consolidate to Prison Break.

Err I mean the guy TW switched to. Heh.


o woops, the thread went onto someone else who may or may not be my partner, let me fix that by sheeping the claimed blue.

okay this makes me feel better, i could def see 1 of LS or grack being mafia which means i only have to find 1 outside of the wagon.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 05 2017 19:29 GMT
#917
On June 06 2017 04:08 LightningStrike wrote:
ritoky why you wasted your vote EoD when it was clear no one was on me? That was extremely dumb and BH wasting his vote too was terrible we just got lucky on the shannies hitting scum.


bh waited until the dude was basically in the ground b4 playing games, he didn't endanger shit.

and wasted my vote? i came back with 3 minutes, barely grasped that a blue had been claimed and voted on the next up on my list. you act like my vote could have done anything. i don't see a quadruple voter role in this game.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 05 2017 19:30 GMT
#918
On June 06 2017 04:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 03:49 ritoky wrote:
On June 06 2017 03:17 Holyflare wrote:
Hey ritoky how about some input? You had concerns about LS and he was on the mafia lynch and you ain't said shit.


i work graveyards in the ER so, i been at work and asleep.

i mean what do you want me to say? mechanics and my brain tells me that tomorrow we don't lynch anyone who voted on dead lynch mafia because that's optimal play; but i just think LS is mafia.

not only did he have basically no reads while being active and present all d1, but he wasn't even trying to get reads. plus that whole take 5 posts to list every possible scenario of vivax and hf arguing was just a steamy turd.

plus you look at his post lynch reaction and compare it to BH (who i think comes off incredibly town); and it's just bad. he is reaching for cred like he led a lynch or hammered a lynch when he is an extraneous vote on a basically 7 vote wagon, and has never even said anything relevant about the guy in his filter.

plus you go look at his filter in relation to fid:

On June 03 2017 20:10 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up not much going on except some really weird argument between TW and TS.
On June 03 2017 19:09 Fidei86 wrote:
Hi all! Long time no speak for a lot of you. I've played a bit of video Mafia since I've been away (which I'm horrible at, it turns out) but I'm excited to get back into forums.

I think TW's thinking makes sense if you assume he doesn't know TS's usual posting style (which I think is like almost comically formal); it wasn't immediately obvious to me that TS was joking either. But that said, I'm not sure that I buy TW's switch to town reading TS? TW doesn't recant on his thinking TS is dumb - but if TS is joking then obviously he doesn't believe it, and so isn't dumb?

I also don't like Vivax's read on TS. Asking about RNG lynches isn't driving the game forward either. I'd say TS is null and TW is scummy null; giving them both a town pass at this stage is waaay premature. But at the same time, I do really like Vivax pinging Grack. So overall TR.

The people I really don't like are Onegu, BH, Grack and LS. Everyone else can be forgiven for not being in the thread (HF is British I think, so he gets a pass as well) but each of those has been here and has studiously avoided saying anything meaningful. LS has, what, four or five posts, none saying anything even vaguely game related. I seem to recall LS has trouble getting started as Mafia... this would fit right into that.

Actually my last game I had trouble getting started too yet I was town? I guess you haven't followed any games in recent times lol.
Filter from last game: http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/mafia/521332-generic-mini-mafia-ii?user=LightningStrike
Granted it still early Day 1 atm.



Fidei puts tiny pressure on LS, LS posts a filter link. fidei just stops, then magically LS becomes a town lean.

On June 03 2017 22:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 03 2017 22:36 Fidei86 wrote:
okay here's the thing I don't get: TW pointed out that TS's response to BH and the "rush" of posts was weird. I agree with TW insofar as that was the way I read it too, at first. But then TS said he was actually joking, which makes sense (and it fits in with TS' posting style insofar as I remember it from previous games). If it had ended there, fair enough. But then TW says "I still think what you said was weird, but you're towny" after TS had said it was a joke. That doesn't make sense to me. Like, TW landed pretty hard on TS for his initial read, and nothing changed other than TS claiming it wasn't serious, but TW's read flipped.

So that's why I think TW is on the scummy side of null (not because his posts were forced, as others were saying).

I too thought it was weird which is why I want TW to explain his townread on TS. The way he jumped on TS and later townreading him for that stuff being a joke is very unusual.


trashcan post about agreeing things are weird.

On June 05 2017 02:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 05 2017 02:21 Fidei86 wrote:
LS can you give your top three scum? and top three town?

top 3 town:
Tubesock: Had some decent content that I agreed with.
Grack: Tone says town Grack over scum Grack atm he seems genuine with his posts to BH.
ritoky: Put in some work and read part of HF's filter from Generic plus decent content posts.
top 3 scum
BH: His push on Grack seems forced more or less and made a super big deal out of nothing? Also agreed with Tubeosck's point on him.
TW: Didn't really like his reasoning on his townread switch on TS. It just feels weird.
Honestly don't got a 3rd scum yet.



fidei tossing LS softballs.

i don't really think i am conf biasing

James pretty much spewed me town although iffy at best but here the thing. I went on james because it was either TW who claimed doctor or BH who I felt had atownie reaction to wanting to get lynched over the doctor so I went with the james wagon. We got lucky there that James flipped scum. But that leaves the real question:
What the hell scum was doing EoD? The ycould of controlled the lynch yet they didn't. Do you think I would kill my gf that early regardless of what would happen when I care more about the team? I wouldn't risk losing a scum member to shannies at all hell I wouldn't risk it even more on the gf. Also James questions to me I was actually being honest right there I had no 3rd option right at that time.


i reject that you had any influence EoD on the vote; and personal relationships are relevant cuz?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 05 2017 19:30 GMT
#919
On June 06 2017 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:
ritoky just admit you can't read me for shit especially in the Im the Cop You Idiot game -.-


oh stop.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
June 05 2017 19:31 GMT
#920
Bullshit.
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