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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 09 2017 02:44 GMT
#2141
note to self thread: conv and pb likely not together
good times for all
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 09 2017 02:47 GMT
#2142
In case that wasn't clear, I am hard claiming cop never rescinding.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 09 2017 02:53 GMT
#2143
okay ritoky is cop so now we have three claims in TW/ritoky/HF.

initial view is that I want to believe HF/ritoky are the correct claims and TW is a lazy, dodgy, I-fly-under-the-radar scum, but I should look into it more.

also what does crumb mean? does that mean leaving little clues in that your play is centered around your role, but not actually revealing it, helping you when you do blue claim down the line?

good to know that BTDT and Grack returned green. I really hope PB is just a town bickering with a town BTDT in that case, which leads to a TW/HF/ritoky-LS team at a small glance at my initial thoughts post before N2 ended.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 09 2017 02:54 GMT
#2144
On June 09 2017 11:43 ritoky wrote:
At work on break so I can't type much or go retrieve my crumbs from my filter, but BTDT & grack

Quick reasoning, my case on BTDT day 1 + he emo'd me and I didn't want to be fooled by it. Considered switching to grack or LS. Day 2 grack because obvious reasons.

HAHA sucker!!!!!

Now I have to kill Tumblewood though.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 09 2017 02:54 GMT
#2145
of course last part of that post is under the assumption that ritoky is making a correct claim and returning good reads, and I don't think he'd do a fake claim after what Vivax pulled earlier. also makes sense that ritoky might have believed Vivax was scum with his limited time (sick/job/etc.) with the fake cop claim if he is cop himself
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 02:56 GMT
#2146
On June 09 2017 11:43 ritoky wrote:
At work on break so I can't type much or go retrieve my crumbs from my filter, but BTDT & grack

Quick reasoning, my case on BTDT day 1 + he emo'd me and I didn't want to be fooled by it. Considered switching to grack or LS. Day 2 grack because obvious reasons.

Should of checked me damn it
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 02:57 GMT
#2147
So we got 3 blue claims TW, HF, and Ritoky.1 of them is definetly scum.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 09 2017 03:00 GMT
#2148
yo LS can I ask you why you asked cop/vigi to shoot you, HF, BH and same for cop? I'd like to understand your reasoning on that.

I understand HF and BH, but why you? well I sort of don't understand either HF or BH because I had them as pretty strong town reads. the only reason I kept doubts for them was because people were talking about how HF could pull off this sort of play as scum and the possibility of a HF-BH scum team might have been there.

but why you? what do we solve in checking you, who's been inactive and not contributing much? to get rid of an AFKer out of our mislynch pool? but why not me, PB, BTDT, even tumblewood? what gives us more information in checking you over any other "suspicious" townie
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 09 2017 03:00 GMT
#2149
On June 09 2017 03:17 LightningStrike wrote:
If you are vig shoot into me HF or BH.
If you are a cop check into me HF or BH.
That way the game is solved easier for us.


Here's the actual quote if you want it
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 09 2017 03:02 GMT
#2150
also I think everyone sort of knows that 3 blue claims is probably 1 scum so do you have anything else to add? who are your top scum reads out of the 3 and who are the remaining two scum?

who are your strong town reads aside from BTDT and grack assuming they are confirmed town?

do you believe ritoky is fake claiming as a possibility? or HF? or TW? what's your opinion besides stating the obvious scenario
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 03:04 GMT
#2151
On June 09 2017 11:53 Conversion wrote:
okay ritoky is cop so now we have three claims in TW/ritoky/HF.

initial view is that I want to believe HF/ritoky are the correct claims and TW is a lazy, dodgy, I-fly-under-the-radar scum, but I should look into it more.

also what does crumb mean? does that mean leaving little clues in that your play is centered around your role, but not actually revealing it, helping you when you do blue claim down the line?

good to know that BTDT and Grack returned green. I really hope PB is just a town bickering with a town BTDT in that case, which leads to a TW/HF/ritoky-LS team at a small glance at my initial thoughts post before N2 ended.

That pretty much what a crumb is. I did try to draw the cop and or the vig on to me so I wouldn't be a question mark honestly.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 03:05 GMT
#2152
On June 09 2017 12:00 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2017 03:17 LightningStrike wrote:
If you are vig shoot into me HF or BH.
If you are a cop check into me HF or BH.
That way the game is solved easier for us.


Here's the actual quote if you want it

Me so I wouldn't be a question mark
BH so we got better info about Day 1
HF so we know if he's town or not since he plays a strong scum game.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 09 2017 03:06 GMT
#2153
On June 09 2017 12:05 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2017 12:00 Conversion wrote:
On June 09 2017 03:17 LightningStrike wrote:
If you are vig shoot into me HF or BH.
If you are a cop check into me HF or BH.
That way the game is solved easier for us.


Here's the actual quote if you want it

Me so I wouldn't be a question mark
BH so we got better info about Day 1
HF so we know if he's town or not since he plays a strong scum game.


ya but let's say the cop was BTDT and he had 5 question marks. why check you over any of the other 5?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 09 2017 03:06 GMT
#2154
other 4*
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 09 2017 03:08 GMT
#2155
ritoky is the scum 90% of the time i think, looking at the claims. just so much setup on hf's part that it's hard to see him fakeclaiming.
BUT
i'm guessing that in the world where hf is scum the other two must kind of be scrubs to not notice any sort of blue tell (pretty obvious as soon as he was skeptical of my claim and later when he said something about there only being one blue in the game), which then doesn't line up with ritoky being scum because ritoky is a good player. hmmmmmmmmm
good times for all
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 03:12 GMT
#2156
On June 09 2017 12:02 Conversion wrote:
also I think everyone sort of knows that 3 blue claims is probably 1 scum so do you have anything else to add? who are your top scum reads out of the 3 and who are the remaining two scum?

who are your strong town reads aside from BTDT and grack assuming they are confirmed town?

do you believe ritoky is fake claiming as a possibility? or HF? or TW? what's your opinion besides stating the obvious scenario

I pretty sure ritoky is not lying the question becomes HF or TW for me . Grack or me would of been checks for ritoky so it makes sense he did check Grack I just didn't want to be a question mark. HF has been going after TW even after the claim so it makes some sense but I would of figured he would of shot but he wasn't confident due to math. Which leaves TW which he was being lynched until he claimed but claimed to been roleblocked which could be faked.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 03:13 GMT
#2157
On June 09 2017 12:06 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2017 12:05 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2017 12:00 Conversion wrote:
On June 09 2017 03:17 LightningStrike wrote:
If you are vig shoot into me HF or BH.
If you are a cop check into me HF or BH.
That way the game is solved easier for us.


Here's the actual quote if you want it

Me so I wouldn't be a question mark
BH so we got better info about Day 1
HF so we know if he's town or not since he plays a strong scum game.


ya but let's say the cop was BTDT and he had 5 question marks. why check you over any of the other 5?

He was having second thoughts on me I think? Just so he get a confirmed read right. At least I know PB was having second thoughts sort of about my alignment.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 09 2017 03:15 GMT
#2158
really? I read through ritoky and it seems his play seems to sort of center around his checks.

On June 04 2017 14:33 ritoky wrote:
i think the town is something like; me, tube, vivax, hf; and tentatively conv and pb

fidei has like....almost exact opposite reads of me. dunno what to think about that.

reading LS mafia, what else is new for me.

btdt has done nothing to change my opinion, still think he is probably mafia.

tw doesn't make a whole lot of sense. defending grack for ???? defending grack from spooky ghosts pushing him???? missed joke early. says "mindmeld" then doesn't say what the mindmeld was. mafia pile.

grack made a joke while being yelled at by BH, so he gets half a town point; but otherwise he hasn't done jack esp for a 2 page filter. actually i just looked at his filter and i take his half point back cuz he doesn't really have any posts pushing the game forward.

BH has been disappointing. i expected RNG -> a play or snowball it into some reads. if that was it, he could be mafia.

onegu...flip a coin.


D1 read on BTDT, claims him as scum. once he is unsure because of the emotional play, he checks BTDT, and drops the entire case on BTDT and gives small town reads on him afterwards.

D2 ritoky argues with Grack, finds him suspicious, checks him.

claims D3, confirmed cop.

either he's mindfucking me and set this up since D1 with scum, or he's actually cop. I'm inclined to believe he's more cop than HF/TW lying about their claim.

TW who did you try to save N2 and did you get RB'd?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 03:17 GMT
#2159
On June 09 2017 12:15 Conversion wrote:
really? I read through ritoky and it seems his play seems to sort of center around his checks.

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 14:33 ritoky wrote:
i think the town is something like; me, tube, vivax, hf; and tentatively conv and pb

fidei has like....almost exact opposite reads of me. dunno what to think about that.

reading LS mafia, what else is new for me.

btdt has done nothing to change my opinion, still think he is probably mafia.

tw doesn't make a whole lot of sense. defending grack for ???? defending grack from spooky ghosts pushing him???? missed joke early. says "mindmeld" then doesn't say what the mindmeld was. mafia pile.

grack made a joke while being yelled at by BH, so he gets half a town point; but otherwise he hasn't done jack esp for a 2 page filter. actually i just looked at his filter and i take his half point back cuz he doesn't really have any posts pushing the game forward.

BH has been disappointing. i expected RNG -> a play or snowball it into some reads. if that was it, he could be mafia.

onegu...flip a coin.


D1 read on BTDT, claims him as scum. once he is unsure because of the emotional play, he checks BTDT, and drops the entire case on BTDT and gives small town reads on him afterwards.

D2 ritoky argues with Grack, finds him suspicious, checks him.

claims D3, confirmed cop.

either he's mindfucking me and set this up since D1 with scum, or he's actually cop. I'm inclined to believe he's more cop than HF/TW lying about their claim.

TW who did you try to save N2 and did you get RB'd?

There was this post I think might of been him bread crumbing he was blue in the first place:
On June 06 2017 13:03 ritoky wrote:
vivax are you actually claiming for realsies? like never back down never surrender claiming? cuz i am kinda over people fake claiming and softing

He did something similar in I'm the Cop you Idiot Town's Revenge where he was the doctor trying to see if someone was really claiming or not.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 09 2017 03:19 GMT
#2160
On June 09 2017 12:13 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2017 12:06 Conversion wrote:
On June 09 2017 12:05 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2017 12:00 Conversion wrote:
On June 09 2017 03:17 LightningStrike wrote:
If you are vig shoot into me HF or BH.
If you are a cop check into me HF or BH.
That way the game is solved easier for us.


Here's the actual quote if you want it

Me so I wouldn't be a question mark
BH so we got better info about Day 1
HF so we know if he's town or not since he plays a strong scum game.


ya but let's say the cop was BTDT and he had 5 question marks. why check you over any of the other 5?

He was having second thoughts on me I think? Just so he get a confirmed read right. At least I know PB was having second thoughts sort of about my alignment.


I mean on the flip side, he could be confident that you're mafia and is trying to figure out the second one, so he reads grack. grack turns out to be town, now he's sure you're teamed with mafia and possible +1. He's looking to see if there is any way his claim can make a possible scum realm within blue claims, so maybe he waits a little bit (or he's busy, seems like he's a busy person). he sees HF claims vigi, ritoky sees this and claims cop, mafia team is you-TW, checkmate mafia?

that might have been his thought process when making that play. so what makes you not mafia? like no offense you have 11 pages of filter and I'm not seeing you doing anything

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