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and holyflare seemed extremely paranoid with arguing tumblewood could be town like why would scum ever go on and ramble about that? I can see it being town trying to figure out the set-up, unless if he's scum and wants us to fake it... so the real question is do we believe him or not.. it seemed pretty real though, can't place it in my head as scum going to think he may be town now, just don't think his current play makes sense as scum at all | ||
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Why, you think his play makes sense as scum? I had him as scum prior, but after his recent play I've changed my mind. What's scummy about changing your mind according to new evidence? The tunneling thing is something people often accuse me of, since I'm new here I guess that's not common knowledge yet. | ||
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On May 18 2017 12:41 Grackaroni wrote: HF can be pretty sneaky. But it seems kind of scummy to me because there's too much anguish over dropping a scum read, like you're too worried that we're going to call you out for switching your read on HF. I think it's the "...ugh..." in the middle of the sentence that bothers me. It just feels unnatural to me. I was pretty confident he was scum earlier on. His play is messing with my head. I don't care what others think, I care about being right. I think I'm still right on sicklurker | ||
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town: LS, Palmar, HF scum: Grack or Vivax scum: sicklurker but vivax pushed sicklurker, so grack is more likely. vivax did have a weird post where he'd question why people would lynch sicklurker though, which can be interpreted as softdefending. I really don't like vivax "if my townread on TW is anything like my townread on PB then he must be mafia", that sounded insincere and it's complete bullshit. what's holding me back is that vivax pushes sicklurker now as for grackeroni, he mentioned my post seemed scummy (where I went from scumreading HF to townreading him based on his posting), then when called out on it he basically retracted it pretty fast. seemed like he was trying to see if others would catch on, and when they didn't he kind of dropped it. Very scummy. If HF is town, and I went from scumreading to townreading him, then I can imagine scum being frustrated by that because they obviously want town to kill other town, so I can see this play having a scum motive. Don't see how it makes sense from town though I think 2 scum is between these 3, LS palmar have been townie all game. no way HF is scum and being that paranoid yesterday, that seemed very real and townlike. so yeah I want to lynch between these 3, and I think both scum are between them | ||
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On May 19 2017 01:59 sicklucker wrote: see this is my problem with you. do you want to be right ? or do you want to find mafia. because they are not mutually exlusive. I am not mafia and you have been wrong all game. So are you chasing losses here? or just scum wtf? I want to lynch scum. In order to lynch scum, I must be right on who I lynch. You're completely taking these words out of the context. The context in which I said this was when I said I'd hate myself if HF was scum, to which I got called out (by your possible scummate?) that I was supposedly worried about how I'd look or some BS like that. To which I explained to him, that I'm worried about being right. So within this context, the meanig is obviously that I only want to lynch people that are scum You saying I've been wrong this entire game is a complete misrep. I've been right on multiple things and I'm tunneling you because you're scum. So you're using your alignment as an argument to say I'm wrong - while for all we know, you could be lying about it. So it's not a valid argument. What is a valid argument, though, is that you're outright misleading people with what you're saying and that you made weird flip flops and what not. | ||
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On May 19 2017 02:07 sicklucker wrote: lets just say if im mafia with tumble +1 i would never let those morons kill df who town reads me over others WIFOM self-meta nice argument | ||
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We need to get to a lynch and there's no obvious lynch candidate, so I think SL should be looked into today, as I've been advocating the last 2 days as well. | ||
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On May 19 2017 02:48 sicklucker wrote: you said you want to be right. as in you dont want to change your scum read on me because that would make you wrong. its pretty simple I said I want to be right when I decided on changing my scumread on HF to a townread on him. So I literally changed my read there. The reason I haven't changed my read on you is because you haven't convinced me you're town at all. I think you're scum. You completely misinterpret what I said. I wasn't talking about you in that post at all. | ||
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On May 19 2017 02:52 sicklucker wrote: how is that ever a team honestly. look where my day 1 vote was You outright suggest Grack mafia with 1 of 3, out of which I am one of the 3, when I outright say I want him dead. LOL. So how can we ever be a team? Using your own bad logic against you here... stay consistent please. | ||
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3 doc claims and not 1 was able to save the cop | ||
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On May 19 2017 22:34 Palmar wrote: I can't even remember what it is that people scumread me for this game btw... I literally have no idea. they think you framed yourself when you got greenchecked lol talking about paranoia | ||
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I thought scum roleblocked HF and killed the cop yes grack says he didn't heal the cop, which is possible, but the problem is how does scum know this? would they seriously kill a cop if they didn't know who the doc was? so I think when HF claimed, this explains it killing palmar seems stupid given the greencheck as well what are the arguments for killing LS? he seems townie to me, don't think he'll flip mafia | ||
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On May 20 2017 01:06 Vivax wrote: It looks like I will have to vote HF anyways cause we need at least 4 votes to secure a lynch against mafia and SL doesn't want to lynch you, ironically you think he can be mafia. When US is online we will see what they say there are plenty of people who want to lynch sicklurker or are you protecting him here? what has he done to make you think he's town | ||
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On May 19 2017 19:29 Palmar wrote: Here's what I'm thinking. If I kill you today and you flip mafia, what happens tomorrow? If the answer to that question is "we lynch SL", I'm perfectly okay with lynching him today, because: a) you have a stupidly long filter (which you always do but still...) b) I'm not 100% convinced you're scum c) sicklucker is far less likely to say smart and useful things should he be the mislynch between you two d) pb has been on his case since day 1, I just read pb's filter and I'm both impressed and kinda want to grant him his lynch I kinda want to help this guy. What do you make of the people who don't want to lynch sicklurker, and want to lynch you despite you having the green check? lightning strike and grack still have their vote on you. I think grack is scum as well as sicklurker. 2 scum should be between sicklurker, vivax and grack. | ||
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On May 20 2017 04:28 Vivax wrote: I don't think you know who you're dealing with when it comes to Palmar and Holyflare. Suffice to say I've been on this site for almost ten years, Palmar even longer. I advise you to sheep someone townie until you know the players a bit better, and fyi I'm currently the uncontested medic claim. I saw 3 doc claims + a lot of "WIFOM/mind gaming scum" You say you're the uncontested medic claim... but I've seen at least 2 other claims as well If everyone will accept you as the doc and retract their claims I'll back off from you as you'd be confirmed town obviously Thing about Palmar and HF seems to be that everyone seems to be tunneling them and I just feel like that's somehing mafia would do.... like leave them alive and let them fight each other because the moment 1 flips, the other will follow soon after Between palmar and HF I'd kill HF first everytime simply because of the palmar green check. Yes, he could be framed, but odds of that are 33%, so in 67% of cases palmar is confirmed town, and in 33% he could literally be either town or scum, basically (aka same as if he weren't checked) I also still don't understand that the cop died. Explain to me, if you were doc why didn't you heal the cop? and why did scum nightkill the cop? Isn't it more likely to assume HF is doc. From your PoV if you're actually doc you know his claim is false, obviously, but from my PoV I can only base my opinion off of what you guys give me, and right now I've seen 3 docclaims and a lot of joking/mindgaming, to the point where I don't know which claim to take seriously anymore | ||
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so with that said, and 3 doc claims, lynch should be between palmar and SL but, say I'm wrong on SL, which I have no reason to believe, but say I'm wrong on him: then I still wonder if palmar is the correct lynch, because it's based entirely on the theory that he framed himself to begin with. It's a possibility, but I don't think it's a probability also why is grack spawned town at all? depending on the scumteam, TW could've said whatever he wanted to, so why are people looking so much into this? I've seen scum leaving "hints" towards who are or aren't their partners in posts in case they flip, to lead town into more mislynches as well. I'm sceptic towards looking into TWs posts like that | ||
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