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On May 13 2017 02:14 LightningStrike wrote: All I said was I would try to get read him around Day 2 since he hard to read Day 1 since he doesn't play Day 1's. Alright "push" is an overstatement, but from my PoV, as far as making reads go, I liked the fact you had the same concern as me (not liking his day 1), therefore I can see you being town because we think alike | ||
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So by killing Damdred instead of darthfoley, it sets up the fact people will likely want to lynch darthfoley the next day I'm getting flood control'd btw since my acc is new lol | ||
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I'm confident your vote makes sense as scum, less confident it makes sense as town | ||
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On May 13 2017 03:32 Holyflare wrote: But i had a reason to vote damdred and you haven't even acknowledged it? Like, what is the alternative here if I didn't vote damdred? Nobody gets lynched? Darthfoley yoir town read dies? Wut So if you have a reason to vote that makes you town? both town and scum have reasons to vote people. if the lynch was between 2 people I townread I would defend both of them and push for the scummy person. you're really hiding behind the fact that you were protecting one person you say is town, by going after another person, while ignoring the fact that this makes sense from a scum PoV like I already explained | ||
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On May 13 2017 04:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Prison Break; The votes do not mean anything unless darthfoley is mafia. People here play quite differently than in other places. I suggest you dont get too hung up on VCA since the starting point of your analysis is already wrong. Basically unless df is mafia scum can (and will) put their votes on who the fuck they want. Noone except for df and Damdred were really in fanger of getting lynched. We know 2 votes in a 13pl game on someone mid-day doesnt mean shit. You really cant tell anything about votes except for that not all 3 mafia most likely voted the same person. well the vote is what caught my attention, but not the reason I scumread him. It's a combination of him being scummy, me townreading others, me seeing him team up with sicklurker (I think they're a scumteam), and the vote also makes sense from a scum PoV are you saying you think it's possible that there's 0 scum on the lynch wagon at all? that it was a townpush? | ||
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Alright why is it bad, and how would you be interpreting the votes? I'm not saying what I say is 100% correct, but I'm going to need an alternative if you disagree, because like I said I can't make meta-reads so I'm mostly looking at votes, connections, and posts that stand out to me as being scummy | ||
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instead of overcompensating and try-hard convincing everyone he's town, he just admits that day 1 isn't his favorite day as long as his story remains true, and his reads become more detailed as the game moves further away from day 1, I'll read him as town for it. don't see this being scum faking it tbh, that'd be a very risky play to say the least | ||
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pretty sure this was a joke claim since it was explained later on that said, if a player such as myself or you was doc here and decided to counterclaim, he could explain it was a meta-joke but scum could still nightkill the real doc who now claimed. I don't like it for one bit, very anti-town | ||
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On May 14 2017 02:04 Holyflare wrote: Also prison break, df is dead now. Your theory has completely fallen apart, any new theories now? What? Df flipping town only confirms my theory that there were 2 leading wagons on town, so we should look into the other voters. Are you saying we were so far off that we had barely any votes on scum at all? I've never seen that, and it's not like no one was caring D1 so I refuse to believe it. I also refuse to believe that there weren't any scumvotes at all on the lynch. your theories seem to grasp at the most unlikely possibilities rather than looking at the facts and what's likely to be the case, which is very scummy to do town looks for probabilities, scum looks for possibilities that aren't likely, but make it seem like they are, and right now you're doing the latter. I still see a team between you & sicklurker as well, now you're pushing fuba? who posts very townie and - also - voted sicklurker? my theory has far from "fallen apart", in fact, it makes more sense now than ever, and you're giving us false information by stating otherwise | ||
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guess who's on the vote.... sicklurker.... reading through the pages now to see how this unfolded. holyflare and sicklurker escaped a lynch yet again.... is this seriously going to be one of those games where I catch scum d1 and then people refuse to lynch them and keep killing townies instead? goddamn this is frustrating... | ||
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On May 14 2017 20:06 Palmar wrote: Actually fuck it rayn is 100% town, but if the hosts are not gonna modkill people for flipping their shit I guess we do it for them. i'm voting rayn. I don't care. ' WTF is this most scummy post so far - I hope you were joking why would you lynch someone you townread ever, that's never justified and we're players not mods. this kind of play really only favors scum so you're either scum or bad town .... lynch scumreads please | ||
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got Palmar lean town still disagree with policy lyches ever, can't stand them and won't encourage them ever either | ||
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On May 15 2017 02:01 Skynx wrote: I dunno man nothing makes sense anymore this game based on posts like this I'll townread Skynx I've never seen mafia play so honest where they outright state being confused etc. it's always town who's lost and loses interest who actually states this, from my experience. mafia wants to be taken seriously, they wouldn't discredit their own reads like this | ||
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Initially SickLurkers post that caught my intention, was, a 100% scumtell. I don't care if he explained/changed it up AFTER I catched it.... what do you expect, do you expect him as scum to go "yeah I was being vague - and after being called out, I'm going to remain vague", no, of course he's going to disprove it! Fuba joined on the vote.... got lynched .... sicklurker was on the vote... like this is just a gutfeel at this point but I just feel like scum is making sicklurker unlynchable, like scum somehow pushed the fuba lynch and keeps steering attetion away from sicklurker - now obviously town is mixed in this as well, and it's hard to decipher who is which, but really just look at what's going on and who's pushing who I also feel like scum is disproving my points - although town doe as well, simply by the sheer numbers of people who do so, but looking at which directions the lynches are going, and which directions the past 3 wagons went that have all flipped town by now (the 2 lynches+ the nightkill), this kind of proves my point and I've been trying to say they were town and made theories but people either disagreed without explaining why, or, they agreed but interpreted it wrongly sicklurker literally OMGUS'd fuba back... townread me for my push on him at first (?) then later on he brought up me being scummy (??) , yet isn't pushing me, which shows he just wanted to see if town was ready to bite, which they weren't. testing the waters there, it seemed I agree with who-ever said we need to form townblocks now because 3 votes on a mislynch... could've been 3 scum and no one would've known, that's really bad, we need to form wagons of 6-7 votes per person, which gives more information + puts WAY more pressure on scum... if scum can keep dodging lynches by creating a 3-person wagon, because their team has 1-2 votes on them, that's peanuts for scum. start a 5-6 person wagon. PUT SCUM FOR THE TEST. will they bandwagon, defend, bus? either is good because either gives information. right now town is too devided and it doesn't gain information I think sicklurker is most consistently scummy and he should be the priorty lynch. really he has done nothing townie whatsoever since I called him out, and too many people either townread, defend him or steer attention away everytime he's mentioned, to the point where scum HAS to play a role in that.. once sicklurker flips scum we need to look into these question marks and look at the people who: - steered away attention - were vague on him - pushed the most people who flipped town - joined/defended or ignored him for seemingly insincere reasons - were the 1-2 voters because that's where scum wants to steer attention away from.... then, the people who hit the most out of these checkmarks will be our lynchpool. then we cut the obvious townreads, and then the poule should be small enough to have a high chance of lynching scum. like 3-4 people out of which 2 are scum, or like 2 people out of which 1-2 scum, etc. that's how I think scum should be lynched, which will the highest percentage chance of finding scum. right now, town seems LOST, and people scumread each other based off EMOTIONAL reasons, and really people are way too divided and aren't thinking about the game clearly. we need to change that up. think someone is scum? alright make a case. I just learned "filter" means "ISO" so I will be able to filter anyone now instead of having to do the control f thing I did which took a shitload of time. start cooperating, playing together, looking at the game objectively mixed in with reads, and that's how we can turn this shitty game around and still turn it into a townwin. I think that's possible. but people shouldnt give up and troll, grudge-lynch, fake-claim, etc because none of that is contributing anything to town right now I'm pretty confident in my town and scumreads. There are a few question marks as well that I want to see how they connect and how that develops for now before I'll blaze my guns at them, because after 2mislynches we need a SCUM lynch now, and can't afford to lynch question marks yet IMO | ||
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- skynx claims cop, redcheck on tumblewood - tumblewood counterclaims after getting redchecked (lol), then claims parity cop (claiming different set-up to out the doc?), and claims palmar is different alignment from me. I had palmar as a townread so I don't buy this claim at all easy tumblewood lynch today BETTER YET holy flare comes in asking to get scanned... when people pointed out cop-doc set-up has a framer... so my guess is holyflare is using framer on himself and now tries to draw a scan towards himself... smart scumteam tumblewood holyflare sicklurker, easy game kill tumblewood first to confirm skynx as town so that doc can heal him | ||
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On May 16 2017 22:59 Vivax wrote: If my townread on TW is anything like the townread on PB then he must be mafia What does this sentence mean? TW is mafia, he counterclaimed because he got caught.. claimed different set-up to get doc to out.. if scum fake claimed, what are the odds of the real cop being the one who got checked? Also what does "spew town" mean? I see that phrase being used quite a lot, is it when you try to get town killed or something? | ||
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On May 17 2017 02:08 Vivax wrote: It means that my TR on TW was bad and therefore it could be bad on you too. And spewing town means that a mafia knowing someone is town gives it away in their posts. Are you saying because you were wrong on one read, you're probably wrong on another read as well, and now you're saying that person is a scumteam with them? What kind of shitty logic is that. This is pretty suspicious on your side. Not only did you townread Tumblewood, but instead of eating it up, you use it as some kind of justification to go after another townread as well? Not only that, but you also conclude palmars and my aligment based on tumblewoods filter, without considering the fact scum can pocket townies to make them lynch targets after they flip I also have palmar as a hard townread and you say he's scum as well this is a really fucking scummy post, going to keep an eye on you in case I'm wrong on holyflare or sicklurker, but so far I still like them for scum | ||
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"I was wrong once - so I'm wrong on someone else as well and I will not reverse my reads for no good reason" | ||
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