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beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 11 2017 11:36 GMT
#1061
On April 11 2017 19:16 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2017 15:19 darthfoley wrote:
On April 08 2017 05:18 Tumblewood wrote:
have no qualms about lynching
rels
(shape)

have some qualms about lynching
sl
koshi
(calix)

not lynching today
df
rayn
btdt


On April 09 2017 08:20 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 09 2017 07:39 sicklucker wrote:
Tumblewood
raynpelikoneet
koshi
darthfoley
beentheredonethat
Rels
Shapelog


something like that mostly paranoid of rels because hes second no my list as most likely mafia even tho its probably shapelog

yeah this is exactly where I am except sl is somewhere on the list. probably above btdt with like 1 letter colored green


When did btdt go from "not lynching today" to being in the scummy side of your reads list, and why? Was it simply because he voted off the Calix wagon?

yeah everyone on the calix wagon moved up when she flipped scum. and btdt looks even worse after that shitty i-don't-want-to-vote-shape-but-##vote:shapelog post.

Except it was not a shitty i-don't-want-to-vote-shape-but-##vote:shapelog post.
It's interesting how you discard everything besides the one sentence that makes me look bad, while doing nothing all game.

"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 11 2017 11:37 GMT
#1062
Like, Tumble comes into the thread every now and leaves, leaves some half-assed pressure on seemingly random players, then gets out again. That's so bad or so mafia.

"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 11 2017 11:43 GMT
#1063
Simply based on the voting, it's Tumble or Rels. And I think it's Tumble over Rels.

There are some ifs:

1. Koshi yolo bussed
2. darthfoley bussed into afk Calix (given df has a lame 4 page filter, that might even be the case)
3. Rayn yolo bussed

that make us instantly lose the game I think.

More ifs:

1. Rels is scum (he didn't play at all so... yeah)
2. Tumbleweed's mindmeld was staged
3. sicklucker fake claimed into a all vt setup


So basically: lynch Tumblewood. If town, carefully consider Rels/(sicklucker vs. darthfoley in a tinfoil world).

That's where I'm at.
Given that Tumble continues to not have original thoughts and continues to drive-by post, I think it's the most likely scenario.

"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 11 2017 11:44 GMT
#1064
If it's Koshi, we've lost the game already, just saying. And I will HEAVILY brag about him being absent and not being replaced. In case he lied about his absence and instead lurked, then it's a ballsy move and I'll drop some wpwp.

Nevertheless, I think Rels AND Koshi playing such a low activity mode is absolutely detrimental for town.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 11 2017 11:51 GMT
#1065
Eeuhm. I played super active and I was the catalysator of the Calix lynch. I identified she was mafia before you people had a clue, pushed her, and told you why she was mafia. Multiple times, over multiple pages.

The sucking up to rayn was legit.

I only didn't play at night & D2. And I was able to lurk there a bit because you guys were slow as fuck. But it doesn't matter, I was 100% ok with the Shape lynch.


It is not my job to make this game anymore. I already earned MVP for the Calix push D1. But due to having it already I will let you people fight for it. If you think I should be lynched... Sure thing. Townies literally cannot play better than I did in the first 42 hours I was in the game. So go lynch me and proof you are all worthless.

I gave you 1 mafia. Go find the second. If I am still in your PoE for some reason go find a head doctor.
I had a good night of sleep.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 11 2017 11:51 GMT
#1066
On April 11 2017 19:16 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2017 15:19 darthfoley wrote:
On April 08 2017 05:18 Tumblewood wrote:
have no qualms about lynching
rels
(shape)

have some qualms about lynching
sl
koshi
(calix)

not lynching today
df
rayn
btdt


On April 09 2017 08:20 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 09 2017 07:39 sicklucker wrote:
Tumblewood
raynpelikoneet
koshi
darthfoley
beentheredonethat
Rels
Shapelog


something like that mostly paranoid of rels because hes second no my list as most likely mafia even tho its probably shapelog

yeah this is exactly where I am except sl is somewhere on the list. probably above btdt with like 1 letter colored green


When did btdt go from "not lynching today" to being in the scummy side of your reads list, and why? Was it simply because he voted off the Calix wagon?

yeah everyone on the calix wagon moved up when she flipped scum. and btdt looks even worse after that shitty i-don't-want-to-vote-shape-but-##vote:shapelog post.

Coming back to this, talking about the first part of your sentence: you're just repeating what Shape said (and what I said), only exchanging names. You're saying "scum is in the people who did not vote for Calix". Which is what everyone said before, some (including me) elaborated more on that, others didn't.

Only difference is that you moved me from "don't lynch" to "scum" while moving Rels to the town pile althoug he didn't do anything. Anything. At all.

On April 10 2017 06:59 Tumblewood wrote:
although his filter leaves little to work with, I doubt rels is scum because he has put himself in a poor position to get someone else lynched after shapelog. I would expect scum!rels to scumread me and/or (pre-flip) sl so he'd have somewhere to go for the necessary 3 mislynches, and he still has not made 'preparations' in that respect

How has Rels "put himself into a position" when the lynch was very clearly on Shapelog? There was no way to not have the lynch on Shape D2. And Rels continued not playing over the course of D2, so how do you imply any sort of activity here?

You're basically saying "Rels did nothing but I townread him now because Shape flipped and Rels had nothing to do with Shape flipping" and use this to finalize your scumread on me.

It just doesn't make sense.

"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 11 2017 11:53 GMT
#1067
On April 11 2017 20:43 beentheredonethat wrote:
Simply based on the voting, it's Tumble or Rels. And I think it's Tumble over Rels.

There are some ifs:

1. Koshi yolo bussed
2. darthfoley bussed into afk Calix (given df has a lame 4 page filter, that might even be the case)
3. Rayn yolo bussed

that make us instantly lose the game I think.

More ifs:

1. Rels is scum (he didn't play at all so... yeah)
2. Tumbleweed's mindmeld was staged
3. sicklucker fake claimed into a all vt setup


So basically: lynch Tumblewood. If town, carefully consider Rels/(sicklucker vs. darthfoley in a tinfoil world).

That's where I'm at.
Given that Tumble continues to not have original thoughts and continues to drive-by post, I think it's the most likely scenario.



1.darth had some really townie posts
2..Koshi I think had some really townie posts mostly defending tumble
3. lul doctor save

vote rels plz
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 11 2017 11:54 GMT
#1068
On April 11 2017 20:51 Koshi wrote:
Eeuhm. I played super active and I was the catalysator of the Calix lynch. I identified she was mafia before you people had a clue, pushed her, and told you why she was mafia. Multiple times, over multiple pages.

The sucking up to rayn was legit.

I only didn't play at night & D2. And I was able to lurk there a bit because you guys were slow as fuck. But it doesn't matter, I was 100% ok with the Shape lynch.


It is not my job to make this game anymore. I already earned MVP for the Calix push D1. But due to having it already I will let you people fight for it. If you think I should be lynched... Sure thing. Townies literally cannot play better than I did in the first 42 hours I was in the game. So go lynch me and proof you are all worthless.

I gave you 1 mafia. Go find the second. If I am still in your PoE for some reason go find a head doctor.

That's weird. Like, we're a team, and we want to win. If you get one scum, then stop doing things, and town loses, your not MVP, your LVP imho.

Also, a successful D1 push can come from a yolo bus, hence why I mention the if.
I think it's highly unlikely though. Also I think it's pretty clear that I am only stating those ifs to be COMPLETE in what I do and to thoroughly explain the PoE process that I did. You're of course part of my PoE but not of the results .

So go lynch me and proof you are all worthless.

Take that sentence and stick it up your arrogant ass, please.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 11 2017 11:55 GMT
#1069
On April 11 2017 20:53 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2017 20:43 beentheredonethat wrote:
Simply based on the voting, it's Tumble or Rels. And I think it's Tumble over Rels.

There are some ifs:

1. Koshi yolo bussed
2. darthfoley bussed into afk Calix (given df has a lame 4 page filter, that might even be the case)
3. Rayn yolo bussed

that make us instantly lose the game I think.

More ifs:

1. Rels is scum (he didn't play at all so... yeah)
2. Tumbleweed's mindmeld was staged
3. sicklucker fake claimed into a all vt setup


So basically: lynch Tumblewood. If town, carefully consider Rels/(sicklucker vs. darthfoley in a tinfoil world).

That's where I'm at.
Given that Tumble continues to not have original thoughts and continues to drive-by post, I think it's the most likely scenario.



1.darth had some really townie posts
2..Koshi I think had some really townie posts mostly defending tumble
3. lul doctor save

vote rels plz

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes

Hence why I vote Tumble. I need better reasons than "vote rels plz" to vote Rels over my top scumread.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 11 2017 11:57 GMT
#1070
lynch rels ok?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 11 2017 11:58 GMT
#1071
i dont know how to really convince you. its mostly meta reads. tumble always looks like primo scum. so when he looks super townie even for a little I always ride with it.

At the same time when rels plays mafia 101 and sniffs my butt hes probably mafia
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 11 2017 12:00 GMT
#1072
tumbleweed=lynch bait
rels=never lynched

tumbles looks town
rels does not

ez game ez logic?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 11 2017 12:00 GMT
#1073
I do not know why Rels is not the lynch tomorrow.

Sicklucker is obviously doctor, or he did an insane play to secure him lylo. In this game mafia doesn't know the setup, so if this is a vt setup he gambled on that and then gambled on not being coutnerclaimed???? Are you all dense or am I wrong about the setup? I didn't read the op.

rayn can't be mafia because while I threw the ball, he made the alley hoop. or w.e that is called. And then during night he decides to not kill anybody while he isn't sure there is a doc so he might get docsaved and then be confirmed? Even more confirmed than he already is??? Are you fuckers for real?

So everybody should have at least 3 superconfirmed townies himself included.


Who is left for me:
Rels
Tumble
btdt
df

For me the obvious choice is Rels. Didn't do shit, and just gained cred when it was cool. Go lynch that fucker.
Darthfoley played well if he is mafia. Cherry picked what he posted and made them incredible.
Tumble most likely is town. Read rayn his posts on why. He is just playing like he always plays. Weird or not understandable does NOT equal scum. Not now, not ever.
btdt is possibly mafia due to interactions with Calix and bad posts. But he is not mafia due to activity and emotions. So he is not mafia and should not be considered in the next 2 lynches. Or do we lose after 3ml? I don't know.


So lynch Rels
Then look at how clean dartholey is
Then look at how messed up Tumble and btdt are and pick one in lylo. Hopefully I am there and not sicklucker.



Also protip to btdt and tumble: Stop calling each other mafia because you don't understand the other person his playstyle. It's dumb.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 11 2017 12:03 GMT
#1074
Also. I might come over arrogant but I am just saying as I think it is and that's it. The arrogant part is just to show me how confident I am atm. And has nothing to do with trying to make you feel bad about yourself.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 11 2017 12:07 GMT
#1075
On April 09 2017 02:02 Shapelog wrote:
About Rels,

I dont like the fact he came in and voted calix without really and explanation other then him being where ryan was. I felt honestly he was more focused on me and tumble each (his other scumreads) then what was actually going on with calix. I know there was a small conversation a page back on how scum!rels might voted in regards of calix being scum. I personally think scum!rels would vote calix there instead of saving her because she was MIA. Why stick out and not vote her when it could cause sus. to come on her.

Another thing is the SL read. I first i actually thought this put to ease my sus. as scum!rels needs to keep the scum pool more open since he needs 3 ML's and what better to do that through ryan. Ryan is after-all seen as town my the majority of people, and could be talked into it if needed. But he didnt, which i first thought was town. But then I reread it and saw something:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2017 06:38 Rels wrote:
rayn. About SL. He feels town. He focused on himself and he's not hiding it, and he's focused on his read on you because of it. It doesn't add anything for him as scum. It's not good looking for him. It wastes time that is all. But he's doing it anyway. I think he's town for that.
Like his posts when he come back to the thread after leaving is focused on that:
On April 07 2017 14:21 sicklucker wrote:
On April 07 2017 06:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
(Wiki)
On April 07 2017 06:44 beentheredonethat wrote:
I'm fine with Rels, Tumble, Shape, Calix, Koshi lynches apparently

and also Rayn

lol I don't have townreads apparently

I am curious though, why is sicklucker town?


why am i mafia. hell you know I wanted to answer something but your posts through page 10 were so bad about me and completely random and wrong


On April 07 2017 14:23 sicklucker wrote:
once again ryan you seem to have tunneled on something completely null and pointless to the game which im ignoring because I believe its completely null and pointless to the game and that makes you think im mafia.

Even if you think im mafia im not a day 1 player and if you lynch me day 1 again after saying you dont want to mislynch me trololo. I acualy kind of want this to happen

and he knows he cannot out arguee you. I think I remember him saying you're the player he fears the most, he said that like one year ago. Doesn'et make sense to try to ou targuee you. Especially since he's not lynched. And he is not trying to change the lynch either. He's mainly talking about your read on him.

This argument is fine for sl being town but do note what i bolded. Rel's reasoning for tr SL is due to his focus on himself and such. Then this happens a few posts later:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2017 07:09 sicklucker wrote:
shapelog is just the best lynch here by far. he can totally be with calix hell it even makes alot of sense. but if you guys lynch calix first you might do something stupid like lynch tumbleweed

so Saltshaker starts trying to move the lynch (something im going to check out eventually) onto me and off of calix. Now, imo this should cause his read to progress or at least be reconsidered as this is something that does go against this reasoning for why SL is town. however, in response to ryans question about sl in general:
Show nested quote +
His posts during the night haven't changed my mind. I think he's town based on his lack of mindset. But he'"s not lock town.

This bothers me because ryan did mention his stance towards the lynching, which I would expect rels to react to with his read. I don't see how that doesn't cause anything to go off in rel's mind if he believes the reasons to tr sl off based off that post. Which suggests he isnt really reading and figure out things.

Maybe the SL thing isn't strong but i dont like how he came in her and just voted calix, picked around with me and tumble, and peace. I feel like town!rels would post or mention more then just being really condense down and focused on certain people while not even mentioning others.

Thoughts?


I read Shape his filter and this was fucking gold.
wp Shape.
I had a good night of sleep.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 11 2017 12:07 GMT
#1076
On April 07 2017 17:10 sicklucker wrote:
Sicklucker
Tumbleweed
calix
koshi
Darthfoley
Rayn
shapelog
beentheredonethat
rels





On April 07 2017 17:17 sicklucker wrote:
at least we agree rels is doctor


On April 08 2017 11:06 sicklucker wrote:
ya doctors saving ryan tonight for sure. so mafias gotta dodge. sure there might not be a doctor in the game but thats what mafia gambled on last time i was the doctor =]


I dont know how obvious I could be. I really want post game troll points
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 11 2017 12:07 GMT
#1077
That is a legit case. Really well written.
I had a good night of sleep.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 11 2017 12:08 GMT
#1078
okay, fine.

just remember that everyone was confident in Shape flipping scum and we wasted 48 hours on a lynch that brought us nothing. We're down to guessing right now because there's one scum left and we have almost no interactions from Calix, so all we have is voting.

That means we'll guess between (Shape), Rels, Tumble and me, given that sicklucker claimed doc. So you can pack your reads in a beautiful rose box which says "meta read" or whatever but I think Tumble looks the scummiest out of Rels and Tumble.

I'll vote Rels, okay, and I'll be glad if we win and I'll eat the "see, btdt, we were right and you were wrong" posts but I'm rather sure we're about to lynch another townie.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 11 2017 12:09 GMT
#1079
On April 11 2017 21:07 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 17:10 sicklucker wrote:
Sicklucker
Tumbleweed
calix
koshi
Darthfoley
Rayn
shapelog
beentheredonethat
rels





Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 17:17 sicklucker wrote:
at least we agree rels is doctor


Show nested quote +
On April 08 2017 11:06 sicklucker wrote:
ya doctors saving ryan tonight for sure. so mafias gotta dodge. sure there might not be a doctor in the game but thats what mafia gambled on last time i was the doctor =]


I dont know how obvious I could be. I really want post game troll points

I have not and will not vote you, all I am saying is there is the possibility. I stressed it's tinfoil and so on.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 11 2017 12:11 GMT
#1080
On April 11 2017 21:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
okay, fine.

just remember that everyone was confident in Shape flipping scum and we wasted 48 hours on a lynch that brought us nothing. We're down to guessing right now because there's one scum left and we have almost no interactions from Calix, so all we have is voting.

That means we'll guess between (Shape), Rels, Tumble and me, given that sicklucker claimed doc. So you can pack your reads in a beautiful rose box which says "meta read" or whatever but I think Tumble looks the scummiest out of Rels and Tumble.

I'll vote Rels, okay, and I'll be glad if we win and I'll eat the "see, btdt, we were right and you were wrong" posts but I'm rather sure we're about to lynch another townie.

Well. We (the confirmed people) don't have to create new content to solve the game. It is on the not confirmed people to make content so the confirmed people can decide who is mafia.

HOWEVER, I couldn't post yesterday so I cba to make a play, but yeah... confirmed people have the power as well to mix things up and find mafia. And in an ideal world they should do that but w.e.

Town has time. We can ml tomorrow as well and then play. I still don't know how many ml we have left but I am fine lynching baddies + potential mafia till it is lylo atm.
I had a good night of sleep.
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