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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 20 2017 12:14 GMT
#1381
Hey bros, I still think disf is town sadly even if his posts were boring before at points.

And hi amg
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 20 2017 12:15 GMT
#1382
On March 20 2017 21:07 AMG wrote:
If you've described something/someone as "weird" in this game, which several of you have, remove that shitty word from your vocabulary and actually explain WHAT about them is unusual.

Pet peeve. Also shitty mafia buzzword because they're not creative enough to explain a feeling beyond "weird".



Does anyone strike you as weird?



For real though, you haven't found anything scummy in 20+ pages?

I also second Koshi's request. You'd get a lot more done that way.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 20 2017 12:15 GMT
#1383
On March 20 2017 21:09 Koshi wrote:
AMG. Are you mafia?


No.

On March 20 2017 21:13 Koshi wrote:
Can you give your opinion on the filters of disformation and Eden? Without reading the thread first. Just those filters.


As you wish.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 20 2017 12:16 GMT
#1384
On March 20 2017 21:14 Damdred wrote:
Hey bros, I still think disf is town sadly even if his posts were boring before at points.

And hi amg


What makes you think that?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 20 2017 12:23 GMT
#1385
On March 20 2017 21:16 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 21:14 Damdred wrote:
Hey bros, I still think disf is town sadly even if his posts were boring before at points.

And hi amg


What makes you think that?


Attitude, tone, somewhat caring about the Lynch d1. When under pressure going after a somewhat suicidal target in calix and going completely against thread sentiment with that.

He also acted in a decent way to earn and tumble posts.

Even though his posts have been kinda meh he has been extremely active, which is a weaker point tbh borderline non point here.

I think he's the product of people looking for a super active mafia when mafia probably just didn't care eod1(conjecture.).
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 20 2017 12:28 GMT
#1386
On March 20 2017 21:23 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 21:16 Calix wrote:
On March 20 2017 21:14 Damdred wrote:
Hey bros, I still think disf is town sadly even if his posts were boring before at points.

And hi amg


What makes you think that?


Attitude, tone, somewhat caring about the Lynch d1. When under pressure going after a somewhat suicidal target in calix and going completely against thread sentiment with that.

He also acted in a decent way to earn and tumble posts.

Even though his posts have been kinda meh he has been extremely active, which is a weaker point tbh borderline non point here.

I think he's the product of people looking for a super active mafia when mafia probably just didn't care eod1(conjecture.).


Your only valid point here is that he immediately started gunning for me for shitty reasons and didn't really back down there. I can see some town motive there but I'd rather not give him ideas.

The other stuff is NAI for him imo.

Who do you think the third mafia is again? Because if it's not disformation then that's when I'm less certain.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 20 2017 12:30 GMT
#1387
Oh wait, I remember. You still scum-read TW -_-
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 20 2017 12:30 GMT
#1388
I get kind of the same feelings on disfo as on Malongo. Could be scum, could not be. Eden is probably the better lynch ultimately.... Not really sure if there is any viable alternative.. Would perhaps be better to find an alternative wagon better than disfo.

Will be interesting to see what AMG brings to the table.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 20 2017 12:31 GMT
#1389
Tumble or rayn are probably not good lynches today.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 20 2017 12:31 GMT
#1390
You have any ideas for 'alternative wagons', Xatalos?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 20 2017 12:34 GMT
#1391
POE leads to Eden/disfo/AMG though of those I think are currently high potential for scum. Seems a bit too easy..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 20 2017 12:35 GMT
#1392
On March 20 2017 21:31 Calix wrote:
You have any ideas for 'alternative wagons', Xatalos?


That's the problem.... everyone else has some reason to be town pretty much, leaving just Eden/disfo/AMG with high chances of being scum. And AMG hasn't really done anything yet so it's a big null.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 20 2017 12:36 GMT
#1393
I guess Eden vs disfo is acceptable in that sense.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 20 2017 12:37 GMT
#1394
Why no onegu in there xata?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 20 2017 12:37 GMT
#1395
On March 20 2017 21:35 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 21:31 Calix wrote:
You have any ideas for 'alternative wagons', Xatalos?


That's the problem.... everyone else has some reason to be town pretty much, leaving just Eden/disfo/AMG with high chances of being scum. And AMG hasn't really done anything yet so it's a big null.


Humour me here. Let's say we lynch Eden, for example, and get a town flip. What would you do next?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 20 2017 12:39 GMT
#1396
There's probably at least 1 scum in those I townread though. Gut still says it's rayn even though I'm not completely sure if he would fakeclaim so easily.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 20 2017 12:41 GMT
#1397
Rayn would fake claim as scum, he's done it before.

But I don't believe it here I don't think
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 20 2017 12:42 GMT
#1398
Onegu - I started thinking he's more likely town sometime during N1. The way he posted about whatever topics and seemed to interact naturally with the thread at the time. Not a super strong read yet.

If Eden flipped town, I'd probably be more interested in rayn again - and maybe Tumble and/or others would need revisiting. Disfo's scum odds would rise significantly too.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 20 2017 12:43 GMT
#1399
This is a shitty thought experiment because filters in isolation are only part of the story. This is a game of interaction. As such both of my reads on these players will involve another player. (the same player)

Eden is probably town.

disinformation is also probably town.


Lets discuss why.

On March 19 2017 10:34 Eden1892 wrote:
Why did we lynch Malongo? I guess it's "safe" but he was perfect null.

I voted Damdred because:
1. Calix wasn't a reasonable wagon and tbh I was starting to second guess myself anyway
2. I didn't see any compelling reason to vote Malongo. It's safe but fuck that, town doesn't win making safe plays unless the Mafia sucks.
3. Damdred still hasn't done anything that made me think he couldn't be Mafia. That's hypocritical compared to Malongo, except that I know I can expect more from Damdred and I can't know to do so from Malongo.
4. My vote for Damdred put the wagons at 5-3 which gave the Mafia a chance to save Malongo if he were scum; gave town a second wagon to consider, and I thought if the EOD were more active we'd get more meaningful info from that with a real 2nd option.

WITH THAT SAID, I apologize for not actually returning. I sorely underestimated my wireless carrier's range, Mississippi's infrastructure and the entertainment level of this wedding. I solemnly swear not to make any of those mistakes again, especially expecting positive outcomes from Mississippi's infratstructure. A truly egregious error to be certain


I've made this post before as town. He really wanted to lynch Calix, which is stupid, but he wants what he wants. That's not on the cards from what I gather up to page 22. So he justifies where he did leave his vote in the end, Damdred, as he believes that even his second choice for the day was a better option than where the lynch ended up going. Hes saying "right well you guys fucked up by not listening to me, and now that you've gone and dun fucked up, listen to me more in the future.... and kill who i want to kill". Looks like a townie who wants to flip his scum reads to me.


disinformation seems town for his early interactions with Calix. I can feel the emotion in his posts, his back and forth bickering seems genuine. He also seems reluctant to step off his scum read of Calix, even after both agree they're in OMGUS territory and are shitting up the thread. Its at this point that id expect a scum disinformation to commit whole hog to a fight with Calix and completely clog up the thread, but he does manage to back out of it and refocus elsewhere, while still maintaining his paranoia of Calix, but agreeing to lynch elsewhere for now.

Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 20 2017 12:43 GMT
#1400
Who are these 'others' Xatalos? Don't hold back.

I wasn't aware that you'd ever LOST interest in Rayn.

Why would a town!Eden -> rayn is mafia fake-claiming?
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