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On March 27 2017 22:06 AMG wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2017 22:05 Koshi wrote:On March 27 2017 22:01 AMG wrote:On March 27 2017 21:58 Koshi wrote:
Why has Xatalos been jumpy to get off the AMG wagon? I don't understand it from his filter. Why? You think our master plan was to have me, try to derail the lynch on the mafia goon... And onto my other more active and also power role teammate on day 2? Brilliant. Who else were you going to vote after you called Eden 100% town. And you didn't bother at all getting Xatalos lynched. You just voted him. Again. Why is Damdred town? "Gut feels"
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Frankly I'd lynch Koshi or AMG over you today, disfo, since both of them went after me over Eden on D2 given the opportunity created by rayn - so I very much doubt they're both town - but I already promised myself to sheep rayn 
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On March 27 2017 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos is the deadline now 1am for us?
Yes seems so. 17+8=25
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Could you explain why disfo is the best lynch today?
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I'm currently just home, but feeling pretty powerless since I'm sick. Can't think too deeply about the game.
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Hm yeah... I kind of agree that scum AMG doesn't fit based on today most of all. But why disfo over Koshi/Tumble?
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On March 28 2017 00:58 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2017 04:57 Eden1892 wrote:On March 18 2017 04:23 darthfoley wrote:
I'd like your overall reads when you have them Eden I don't have a lot yet and I'm sure outside of Calix, none of it is interesting. Top town is Xatalos followed shortly by rayn and Koshi. Top scum is Calix. Damdred has said a lot without a lot jumping out at me one way or another. I don't recall having this much difficulty discerning any feeling about his alignment when he's one of the more active posters in the thread before. Not really sure what to make of it yet, and to be fair to him, my relative disconnectedness from this game compared to past ones on here is probably to blame.I think disformation is lock town if I'm right about Calix. Pretty sure Calix is scum and spewed disfo town. Loved this post by disfo as well: On March 17 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:On March 17 2017 17:58 Calix wrote:
Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come. 1) Push someone weak so you have a scum read 2) get lazy and give the rest lazy town reads 3) "look how much work i already did" if shit happens you can still easily backtrack, since its early and the trs where fairly weak in the first place I don't get the Malongo wagon having so many votes. He's a giant blank right now and it's weird that a wagon on a straight null poster got so much traction so quick. Makes me think that there were multiple mafia driving the early discussion and managed to get attention centered on a townie with weak/no thread presence. The alternative is that Malongo is mafia and his team can't do anything to stop the town, in which case this game is easy and I'm not worried anyway. That's about all I got that I think matters right now. From reading Eden his filter it is way more likely Damdred is his scumbuddy and not disformation. It's always wifom but Eden is not the best mafia player and it is way more likely he talks about a town!disformation here and a mafia!Damdred.
In addition to that, though, Eden actually voted Damdred on D1 which put him in a realistic position to be lynched... And Damdred voted a (somewhat) crucial vote against Eden on D2 as well before it was at all clear how it would turn out.
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I think the lynch wasn't really set in stone until like 30min to the lynch or so? Damdred was at least a realistic option until quite late. A bit hard to see scum just leaving their vote on him in that situation..
Besides, I'd say it's easier to fabricate a listpost than to fabricate vote behaviour. The former carries no risk of any kind, just a bit of thinking with how to make your stances, whereas bus-focused vote behaviour is very risky as scum.
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Yeah, I think we've already lost if Damdred is scum... I don't see myself ever voting for him at least.
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I guess Damdred's recent play does leave a bit to be desired. Still, the hard (double) bussing through D1&D2 just seems too reckless.
rayn, be the hero we need and solve the game
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Well, rayn is the only one here I can trust, and he's also a good player. I'd rather go down his path, even if I'm not 100% behind it, rather than detract from him and reignite a town vs town debate (giving scum the control in this already pretty tight lynch).
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On the other hand, here are some connection thingies I thought about.
These are the pretty much impossible scumteams...
Eden & Damdred -> Damdred out
AMG & Koshi (as explained by rayn)
Eden & disformation (not sure? - but this doesn't seem very likely to me, considering disfo went fast after Eden on D2, even before rayn had claimed and was up for lynch, and besides Eden hard-townread disfo which would be a bit unusual)
So considering these facts, I don't think we should lynch Damdred or disformation today... And actually Tumblewood might be the best bet, since his vote history is pretty shady and he'd fit decently with Eden / anyone else.. What do you think rayn? Not really all that sold on disfo.
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On March 28 2017 03:07 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2017 03:04 Xatalos wrote:
Well, rayn is the only one here I can trust, and he's also a good player. I'd rather go down his path, even if I'm not 100% behind it, rather than detract from him and reignite a town vs town debate (giving scum the control in this already pretty tight lynch). Can you give reasons why Damdred is town that does not involve Eden?
Well, his posts were decent / reasonably insightful at some point. He's kind of faded away as the game progressed though, so just considering his play, I wouldn't hard-townread him.
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On March 28 2017 03:08 Koshi wrote:
Does anybody have meta on AMG? Is he a spammer?
No idea
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On March 28 2017 03:17 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2017 03:15 Xatalos wrote:On March 28 2017 03:07 Koshi wrote:On March 28 2017 03:04 Xatalos wrote:
Well, rayn is the only one here I can trust, and he's also a good player. I'd rather go down his path, even if I'm not 100% behind it, rather than detract from him and reignite a town vs town debate (giving scum the control in this already pretty tight lynch). Can you give reasons why Damdred is town that does not involve Eden? Well, his posts were decent / reasonably insightful at some point. He's kind of faded away as the game progressed though, so just considering his play, I wouldn't hard-townread him. His only good moment was mid D1 to D2. Tell me where he was elsewhere good? Like I genuinely want to know.
That's kind of what I thought too.
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On March 28 2017 02:47 Damdred wrote:I (bias) think the double bus theory is pretty bad. I do like people defending me though  In any case, Rayn why would you rather lynch disf for instance over say Tumble? Tumble did have a few good posts during the night cycle i'll give you that point. I just find his early game posts a bit strange still? His read progression on Eden just doesn't jive with me exactly, to hard townreading him, then calling him a red herring and its to easy but still voting him. And his going about the d1 lynch, doesn't want to vote you off but still leaves his vote on you ehhh. IDK it might be a bit of omgus with his constant on the damdred lynch train but his filter just seems a bit off and to willing to lynch down a list really. I'm not sure if Koshi is starting to fall out of town or not, like I could see town Koshi believing this but i'm not sure.
Like this post is something I'd dislike quite a bit otherwise. So much hedging and non-conclusive points. Not good.
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(and forgettable as a whole...)
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EPT
