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There were several people I had as more likely to die as I read the closure of the first cycle. | ||
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On March 21 2017 13:27 darthfoley wrote: I've thought of a few scenarios and maybe you can provide some insight 1. Kill ritoky because ritoky has historically good reads on someone/someones in the game. Is ritoky very stubborn? How does he go after people? There could be motivation to off a veteran player who has looked over stuff with fresh eyes. 2. I think it's more likely that ritoky symbolized a nice mix of everything mafia might try to hit during the night. Blue hunting, also not likely to be saved by medic, plus my previous point. 3. Scum is in a much better situation than the town thinks currently, and wants to provide the town with as little information as possible. Which is exactly what happened 4. Simplest yet improbable. Ritoky was right about Eden and his other reads (outside of me of course!) and mafia went for the direct kill to silence him. I find this incredibly short sighted and unlikely to be the sole reason because Eden (if eden is scum) and his partners have not attempted to discredit ritoky. Eden hasn't come back to the game. I just don't see the sole motivation being ritoky's Eden read like some have implied when Eden is (in this scenario) AFK scum. 5. Frame onto ritoky's scum reads. Plausible but probably not optimal considering Eden already had a lot of pressure on him 3 is what I'm worried about. I get the distinct feeling a few people are in kickback and relax mode, which is laughable since we haven't flipped a single scum yet. Process of elim thinking is making people lazy. 5 is always possible. I would not discount that this is what has happened. I like you. | ||
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On March 21 2017 13:52 darthfoley wrote: I'm sorta confused why you treat this like it's a fool proof point. Almost certainly if Eden is scum his partners are bussing him considering he's given them nothing to work with... maybe if he had come back and fought the good fight against the lynch, you'd have a point. Considering the fact that he's been MIA for like 36 hours and his activity came during low activity spurts, idk what you expect his theoretical partners to do? Other than defending Eden, can you expand on why you don't like Xatalos and anything additional on Damdred? Please elaborate on your fleshed out reads a bit more Cuz I like the way you're playing so far and you aren't being lazy, but I need to hear what you think about others. Specifically Koshi, TW, Calix This lynch could have landed on a number of underperforming people... its landed on Eden. The only one stupid enough to be pushing back on it is me, including him. The lynch was entirely up in the air on day start, Ritoky flipped and then this wagon generated steam at lightning pace. I just dont subscribe to the idea that the scum team let it land on one of their own without so much as a damn whimper. Ill give my thoughts on those people when I finish work. | ||
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On March 21 2017 13:52 darthfoley wrote: Cuz I like the way you're playing so far and you aren't being lazy, but I need to hear what you think about others. Specifically Koshi, TW, Calix Calix is town. Obnoxious. Self Righteous. Looks a lot like my town play. I haven't been shy in saying as much. Both of my defences of Eden and disinformation were based on the utter stupidity of attacking someone that was spewing townie whenever they walked past the thread. I had Tumblewood as town for saying something along the lines of "if youre going to make me read through 400 pages a day resulting in a headache, you can read some long winded posts of mine". And yet now that I'm looking for the posts, I cant find it anywhere? Koshis' filter is just.... noise. Randomly spouting names, claiming hes nailed the scum team. Good to see some things never change. I much prefer his stuff AFTER ive replaced in to the stuff before it, as he seems to want to engage me and discuss things, possibly figure me out. For now he can live in tentative town-ville. | ||
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On March 20 2017 05:21 Koshi wrote: Xatalos is extremely townie on page 43. Explain this for me Koshi, please kind sir. | ||
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On March 21 2017 17:45 disformation wrote: @AMG: did you notice that a bunch of eden's points on calix were plagiarised from my earlier posts on calix? i also havent seen you or anyone else refute ritoky's post on eden. like how does post town eden's n1 post? Sure, if you want to claim Eden was plagiarising your crap case to make his own crap case, you can have that. I've specifically outlined why I didn't find ritokys post very moving. My filters nice and short. | ||
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On March 21 2017 20:38 Koshi wrote: Now tell me who you are AMG. I can't figure it out. I actually like that line of thinking you have there on Xalatos. Believe me, if i replaced in, and those were my teammates, Id concede. Immediately. And if you know anything about my meta as scum, you'd agree. I was previously Adam4167. | ||
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On March 21 2017 20:52 Calix wrote: Wow you really are ancient then, lol Thanks ... >.> I think Yeah I took some time off, became a father, started my career. Life happened. | ||
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On March 21 2017 20:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: ADAM!!!<3 Hello friend. Its been a while. | ||
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On March 21 2017 20:56 Calix wrote: It's really weird to think that most of the people in this game are like, late 20s-30s. Dont remind me. 30 in December. | ||
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I'll admit, I have not pushed anyone with any great fervour today, I am still finding my place in this game. I still think this Eden wagon is riddled with disease, however I am not making much headway in convincing anyone of this and my efforts doubly fall flat when the man himself is nowhere to be seen for 36 hours. | ||
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On March 21 2017 21:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: I regained my passion to actually interact with someone in this game. Adam are you around in an hour? I am home then. Lets talk mafia. I'm supposed to be asleep but its only work. Sure ill be hovering around. | ||
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On March 21 2017 22:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: My view of Damdred's play this game is he is not here to find mafia, he is here trying to make friends. Hes hasn't taken to making friends with me. In fact hes done a great job of shitting on every thought I've put into the thread so far. As I've already said in my previous interaction with him, I really do not think day 2 has panned out as everyone seems to think, being : Scum Eden shot Ritoky to save his life and get him off his case... only to go completely AFK and the town collectively wanders up and dumps their vote on AFK scum Eden while the team do very little/nothing to try to persuade it onto someone contributing equally as much... Onegu.. my slot up to that point.. there were options. Rather than entertain the idea that Eden might be town, hes adamant that scum are gifting us this one as a bus. For what. For town credit? what town credit is there to be had from being on Eden wagon even if he flips scum? (almost..) everyone seems to be in agreeance here that Eden is scum so the "town credit" is next to nil. | ||
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On March 21 2017 22:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright AMG. Xatalos. What's your opinion on this: Furthermore there are two other things. Basically this game the way Xatalos has acted towards me in a competely unreasonable manner. When i first made my case on Damdred (and Malongo - but mostly on Damdred) on D1, he doesn't even try to understand where i am coming from. It's very clearly seen from his responses he didn't (1) get what i was saying and (2) didn't even try to understand what i am saying, he jsut trashed on the read for no real reason. Same trend continues on D2. Like now he is at least acting in a manner he sees me most likely town. Why is he still jsut trashing me and not even TRYING to communicate with me in any reasonable manner? It doesn't matter if i call him mafia, look at for example Koshi - Koshi is not calling me scum, Koshi is not trashing me all the time when i am not even in thread. Xatalos on the other hand is. Koshi is letting me do my thing. There is a huge difference between those two and i don't understand why Xatalos as town would act like that especially now on D2 if he was town. It doesn't make any sense because he has to know i can be an asset to the town. He isn't trying to even communicate, he just discredits. Im going to reread the exchange between you and him after your case on Damdred. Thoughts to follow. | ||
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Rayn of old would have just barked at the thread until making it unreadable. Eden and yourself were going vote for vote, you hit 3 after Calix jumped on, but Eden had already accumulated 2 votes courtesy of Damdred and disinfo. Then you claimed and it all shifted to Eden. In the world I live in, where you're both town, you made yourself untouchable, and they defaulted onto the next best option, an AFKer who'd already got a few votes. | ||
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On March 21 2017 23:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: There are too many mafia in this game.  I've either spent the entire day defending an AFK townie from a scum-controlled town, or ive spent the entire day defending an AFK scummer from a bunch of townies that clearly have the game figured out a lot better than I do. Either way, tomorrow is going to suck a tonne of ass. | ||
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Just feels.... off. He thinks you're showing forced/fake agression, calls all your cases unconvincing and weak, and finishes it off with "At first I was half-convinced rayn was scum, but now I'm not sure again. If someone I was "half-convinced" was scum started pulling that crap in my eyes, id probably find myself more convinced they're scum. | ||
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On March 21 2017 23:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: I know but i literally don't care often times anymore. But in the last couple of years i have been lynched for like eight times, a couple of them i totally deserved, one was retarded game overall and the last five times i have only called out mafia. I quit for a couple of times already because of that (amongst other things). When the game of logical deduction doesn't include logic anymore i don't really find much fun in it, except for if i am right or not. I decided i wanna have presence for the longest amount of time since i don't usually do as well in obs/following than i do in-game. And Koshi was being a dick and switching his "lynch rayn D3" into D2 (srsly Koshi that's super fucking annoying and the only times you have lynched me i have ONLY FUCKING VOTED FOR MAFIA ALL FUCKING GAME). There's no love in that world either, trust me. I have spent a large portion of my mafia career being so right it friggen hurts and being unable to convince people of what I can see plain as day. Being right in this game is absolutely only half the battle. | ||
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Then the scum would shoot him and id end up babbling to myself in the corner again. | ||
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