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AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 20 2017 10:59 GMT
#1373
Hi friends.

AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 20 2017 11:01 GMT
#1374
Apparently I've lost my post count in my hiatus/name change.

Some of you may know me. Some not.

AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 20 2017 11:08 GMT
#1375
Most of you are Euros, so I'll be sitting here reading over the beginning of this game for the next couple hours.


Engage me in discourse.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 20 2017 11:52 GMT
#1376
On page 20 so far.

Rayn, ready to ride or die cowboy?
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 20 2017 12:07 GMT
#1377
If you've described something/someone as "weird" in this game, which several of you have, remove that shitty word from your vocabulary and actually explain WHAT about them is unusual.

Pet peeve. Also shitty mafia buzzword because they're not creative enough to explain a feeling beyond "weird".

AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 20 2017 12:15 GMT
#1383
On March 20 2017 21:09 Koshi wrote:
AMG. Are you mafia?


No.

On March 20 2017 21:13 Koshi wrote:
Can you give your opinion on the filters of disformation and Eden? Without reading the thread first. Just those filters.


As you wish.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 20 2017 12:43 GMT
#1399
This is a shitty thought experiment because filters in isolation are only part of the story. This is a game of interaction. As such both of my reads on these players will involve another player. (the same player)

Eden is probably town.

disinformation is also probably town.


Lets discuss why.

On March 19 2017 10:34 Eden1892 wrote:
Why did we lynch Malongo? I guess it's "safe" but he was perfect null.

I voted Damdred because:
1. Calix wasn't a reasonable wagon and tbh I was starting to second guess myself anyway
2. I didn't see any compelling reason to vote Malongo. It's safe but fuck that, town doesn't win making safe plays unless the Mafia sucks.
3. Damdred still hasn't done anything that made me think he couldn't be Mafia. That's hypocritical compared to Malongo, except that I know I can expect more from Damdred and I can't know to do so from Malongo.
4. My vote for Damdred put the wagons at 5-3 which gave the Mafia a chance to save Malongo if he were scum; gave town a second wagon to consider, and I thought if the EOD were more active we'd get more meaningful info from that with a real 2nd option.

WITH THAT SAID, I apologize for not actually returning. I sorely underestimated my wireless carrier's range, Mississippi's infrastructure and the entertainment level of this wedding. I solemnly swear not to make any of those mistakes again, especially expecting positive outcomes from Mississippi's infratstructure. A truly egregious error to be certain


I've made this post before as town. He really wanted to lynch Calix, which is stupid, but he wants what he wants. That's not on the cards from what I gather up to page 22. So he justifies where he did leave his vote in the end, Damdred, as he believes that even his second choice for the day was a better option than where the lynch ended up going. Hes saying "right well you guys fucked up by not listening to me, and now that you've gone and dun fucked up, listen to me more in the future.... and kill who i want to kill". Looks like a townie who wants to flip his scum reads to me.


disinformation seems town for his early interactions with Calix. I can feel the emotion in his posts, his back and forth bickering seems genuine. He also seems reluctant to step off his scum read of Calix, even after both agree they're in OMGUS territory and are shitting up the thread. Its at this point that id expect a scum disinformation to commit whole hog to a fight with Calix and completely clog up the thread, but he does manage to back out of it and refocus elsewhere, while still maintaining his paranoia of Calix, but agreeing to lynch elsewhere for now.

AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 20 2017 12:48 GMT
#1404
On March 20 2017 21:44 Calix wrote:
The fact that AMG comes in and town-reads both wagons/ potential ML options is fascinating although I'm not sure what to make of it.


Yeah I cant help you there, In a previous life I was somewhat known for dancing to the beat of my own drum. I'll be calling alignments as i see them, popular or otherwise.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 20 2017 13:10 GMT
#1421
Rayn, what point are you trying to make on disinformation there? he forgot him off his list and then he flipped? what does that even prove?
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 20 2017 13:32 GMT
#1448
On March 20 2017 22:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You're so fucking mafia it hurts.


OK, stop trying to convince the mafia hes mafia. You're growing this thread faster than I can read it.

Explain to me slowly, as if i were a little child, why he is mafia, preferably not using the most recent claim situation... since I have not caught up to the part where people are claiming.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 20 2017 14:22 GMT
#1484
On March 20 2017 23:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Bulletpoints why Xatalos is mafia:

  • The whole claim thing as just explained
  • Very very terrible reasoned read on Tumblewood (aka easy lynch)
  • Not pushing me over Malongo (when he said himself he thought we are BOTH (with Tumble) more likely to be mafia than Malongo is) -- And no, sitting on his scumread for 47h 45mins and then making a half-arsed attempt is not "pushing a lynch on rayn" while i can perfectly underrstand why he tries it there -- i will never have a chance to respond (i can show you examples on when town!Xatalos thinks i am mafia, how he pushes the lynch if you don't believe me)
  • See above, how strong do you think his scumread on me was when on D2 i claim and he cannot be even arsed to think there is a possibility of me being town?
  • Go read his filter and see what he "pushes". He is not even wanting to lynch scum, there are no actual case, no nothing. He is just trying to find counter-wagons for everything?!?!?!? If someone is scum why do you need a counter-wagon? Why is just looking for counter-wagons?
  • Mrrgrlgrlgllllll !!!!!!!!!


Thankyou, Muchly.


In your reality, how likely is Damdred on his team? I really do not like Damdreds day 1 actions, specifically his voting and the 'cases' on his votes.

Ill mull over both of them being scum while I sleep. Back in 9 hours.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 20 2017 14:38 GMT
#1493
On March 20 2017 23:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean like what about them you don't like.


He parks his vote on mal for being "suspect". Never elaborated on what that even meant. Does not even attempt to engage Mal in any questioning or conversation. Makes a case on why Eden might be better lynch, vote stays on mal, says he does not feel comfortable being on the same wagon as DR, yet never moved his vote off. Talks about how little resistance there is to mals lunch, does not get off it.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 20 2017 23:22 GMT
#1605
Posting from work so Ill be in and out between phonecalls.

To everyone on the Eden wagon:
Unless you think the scum team is some combination of Myself, Tumble, Eden, Calix and Darthfoley.... then youre currently on a wagon with your scum reads. Have a good hard think about that.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 21 2017 00:09 GMT
#1608
If you think its a bad post, you dont need to hide that in brackets. Youre welcome to your opinion, wrong as it may be.

Youre damn right im trying to derail this lynch, ive said I find Eden townish, and I see far too many people on it that are labelling each other as scum. Stop voting with your scum reads, thats friggen stupid.


Take a step back and assume for a moment that im not scum, even though I've said I dont like your day 1 actions. Can you see a townie making this post? Give me a chance to put my thoughts into the thread.

Or if youre scum you can just keep shutting down everything I post, and Ill take that as a sign we're heading to a shit fight.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 21 2017 00:10 GMT
#1609
On March 21 2017 09:06 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2017 08:22 AMG wrote:
Posting from work so Ill be in and out between phonecalls.

To everyone on the Eden wagon:
Unless you think the scum team is some combination of Myself, Tumble, Eden, Calix and Darthfoley.... then youre currently on a wagon with your scum reads. Have a good hard think about that.

Who is mafia?


Dont like Damred. Dont like Xalatos.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 21 2017 01:41 GMT
#1610
Tumble, you floated past to remove your vote from me, but didnt want to discuss anything in the thread?

Talk to me about why you find Damdred town
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 21 2017 02:54 GMT
#1611
On March 21 2017 08:41 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2017 08:22 AMG wrote:
Posting from work so Ill be in and out between phonecalls.

To everyone on the Eden wagon:
Unless you think the scum team is some combination of Myself, Tumble, Eden, Calix and Darthfoley.... then youre currently on a wagon with your scum reads. Have a good hard think about that.


Scenario one: Eden is afk scum, there is no reason for scum not to be on eden, there is no good defense of Eden. Just lynch and try to muddy up the water's and try to not give credit tonthebpeople on wagon song mafia had to be there!

Scenario two: Eden is somehow afk town that can't play and sort of doesn't care. If course scum isn't going to pass up thus wagon. Easy lynch.


Lets talk about this. Your argument is that in both scenarios, there are scum on this wagon. I fully agree with you on this. There are scum voting for Eden. I have zero doubt.

In the first scenario, the world you live in assuming your town, you want me to believe that of all the people posting next to nothing, they're going to let the lynch fall on one of theirs when there's by sheer weight of numbers townies doing as little as Eden is, who could take his place. You are either arrogant or delusional to think it's going to be this easy.

In the second scenario, youre jumping onto an afk townie, that there are scum voting for, by your own admission "too good to pass up".


Which reality are you choosing to live in?

AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 21 2017 03:05 GMT
#1613
I've already outlined why I found Eden town. I can follow along with his thought processes easily enough, seems genuine. I really dont see a low activitcy scum launching into a case on Calix when he did.

Ritokys case isnt terrible, I just see it differently. At face value the things Ritoky brought up are there, but he seems more pissed off about the content of the post rather try decipher the motivations behind them.

Why mafia kill ritoky there, who knows.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 21 2017 03:07 GMT
#1615
Feel free to try and persuade me otherwise, I'd like to know why youre comfortable voting the same way as xalatos after your previous exchange.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 21 2017 03:17 GMT
#1618
He made a few lengthy posts on why Calix was mafia, saw that it was never going to happen, consolidated on Damdred who had a couple of other votes on him, who he said posts a stack without saying much, and was the only other viable wagon on D1.

I can see the thought process. Smells like time-poor townie to me.
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