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@iamperfectcion: Could you be more specific about no lynch - mafia holding the shot (ie: does it mean that mafia is forced to hit inmedialtely after a no lynch?) Thank you. | ||
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On February 20 2017 22:07 Damdred wrote: we are lnyching someone today no matter what I agree about lynching someone today, but I am not really sure it´s imperative. Can you please elaborate? On February 20 2017 22:15 Damdred wrote: So will we be friends this game rayn? Also I really dislike Molongo comment, it sort of pushes two anti-town sentiments (in this case) at the same time and both things he probably should know better than to do. And its not really commital at the same time, think its a bad post. First, my username is Malongo. Second, how is my proposal anti-town? While my post may not be commital (with wich I concur) I wonder what do you mean by "a bad post". Maybe you could enlight me with a good post full of content for a start. On February 20 2017 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Ebwop: oh well, yes YOU would. But it doesnt make any sense to propose a random lynch where you exclude yourself. :p It makes all the sense to me actually :p. | ||
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On February 20 2017 23:57 Damdred wrote: Obviously the answer is probably not. That in no way is defensive? You just described someone answering a question. I am not overreacting or twisting your point, I never said Mal did overact in fact he hasn't been back in the thread since that post. LIke this is a non point totally I am actively reading, it`s just that it takes me more to make me readable to you guys. I have no offence if you want to ignore me, however I felt you stretched out the answer about the no lynching. Again, while I agree that it is desirable to lynch someone I think it`s not 100% imperative for day 1. | ||
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On February 20 2017 23:45 Damdred wrote: Oh you meant this one, i thought he was talking about elaborating on a different point. Meh, this is just softball stuff you lynch to get information and figure out why people are pushing what they are. Not lynching lets mafia pick off the strong towns without town getting information on who they scum read But the information we have day 1 is the weakest of all, if anything I am trying to get townie reads, not mafia reads. Maybe it could be smarter to lynch based activity wise instead? | ||
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On February 21 2017 00:25 sicklucker wrote: if I decide its more like a 50% chance. STATS I believe you. So, if it was your power to lynch someone today who dies? | ||
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On February 21 2017 00:23 Damdred wrote: Well genrally speaking yeah the info d1 is the weakest but the motives are interesting. Nothing is set in stone so you get to see how people react what they push what wagons they hop on. Its a great time to really start looking at motivations behind things, I think we lynch scum slightly higher percent than random lynches here so there is that to. Even on day 1 with 0 info (and assuming no claims whatsoever)? I feel perplexed and beg to differ. Not too sure because I reallly haven`t read all the last games and I am going with my gut here but I doubt 1/4 games lynch red day 1. | ||
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On February 21 2017 00:31 sicklucker wrote: well the great thing about getting a high percentage is not randomly picking someone after I have read 10 posts and posted nothing but bullshit Yeah i get the point. But you fail to give an answer regardless of the %. Let me help you: IF I had the power to decide today`s lynch so far I would lynch ryan. Reason? well he appeared as active recently and Damdred had a soft town read on him and everything was pretty normal until he decided that he can just dissapear and make like the convo Damdred/Koshi never happened. Whatever, he just dodged any reference (I am inclined to believe Damdred and Koshi are both town btw) and came up with a post about you. So as light as it seems i`d be lynching ryan so far. Now you, what do you think so far? Who would you lynch? | ||
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On February 21 2017 01:36 Vivax wrote: Do you think the Koshi + Damdred has mafia in it ? Read my post bolded it for you. Or why would rayn be mafia for treating it as all town? Not really, we could be all townies I think we all thought the same at that time. Didn't really look to me like he abandoned something there, he just drew a conclusion you might not agree with. Oh yes he did. Look at his last post/next post. On February 20 2017 23:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: All the four of us can be town for now. On February 21 2017 00:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: I feel like sicklucker is tryharding wrong. Wich completely ignores anything in Koshis/Damdred argument (wich is very interesting as well). All that being said, you and Fecalfeast are completely ignoring my question (I originaly asked luckluster btw) wich is way more important than ryan`s behavior: IF you had the choice and the power who would you lynch? Forget about me trying to make a case about ryan and answer the question. | ||
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On February 21 2017 02:51 Vivax wrote: Malongo I don't understand why it makes rayn of all people scummy when he doesn't keep posting around a conversation that most people think is town on town. What do you think a town rayn should do there, since you think he did it as mafia? Really? | ||
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M: hello V-F-S V-F-S: hi there M: look, I think an interesting way to start things going is if you answer Who would you lynch first f it was in your power? (insert here sicklucker quote about high %) V-F-S: but Malongo, there is not enough posts (and we want that %) M: Yes I know, but let`s work with what we have for now. As for me I would lynch ryan because he dodged some argument and whatnot. V-F-S: But Malongo, how can you possible think he is mafia. I don`t understand your reasoning. M: Hey I gave you my reason. I am not really making a case against ryan, I am answering the same question that I`d like you to answer, I am more interested in your answer, and I think the town will benefit greatly. V-F-S: But Malongo, how could ever pinpoint ryan as mafia, how should he act in the case he is not mafia. M: Would you answer the question please, moron? | ||
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On February 21 2017 03:30 Vivax wrote: I already gave you my early reads, but I don't see why I should say that I want to lynch one of them already. If at the end of the day they didn't change, then I will want to. You are totally blowing the rayn thing out of proportion as a reaction to being pressured, in my opinion. Except the fact that I am not blowing anything, in fact you could just answer the original question without trying to "pressure" back. Way to piss me of regardless. Next time say just say that you don`t want to answer. By the way I never wrote to lynch one of them necessarily. I made a simple hypothetical question that you seem to fail to understand. | ||
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On February 21 2017 04:34 Vivax wrote: My original intention wasn't exactly to pressure you, just to ask why what you said made rayn mafia, but given the way you reacted, I got the feeling that you felt pressured. Is this rayn not chiming in more on Damdred + Koshi still as important as it looked like back then? It is for me, if it was my privilege to chose a lynch target. Even more considering he has failed to make anything out of the game so far. I don`t get your "totally normal" picture out of him. I mean rayn posted "All the four of us can be town for now." then Koshi proceded to take the eyes out of Damdred and his attitude, wich even garanted a lynch vote. Ryan proceded to make like nothing happens and kept the "all townies nothing else to post" posture. Then again this is not a game of individual choices, thats why my hypothetical question has no value if you don`t answer, while it retains at least the discussion active if you do. Last but not least I don`t really like the fact that you are making me look like I am tunneling to lynch ryan and called me blowing things out of a question that you refuse to answer yourself. Even more putting words on me "just to ask why what you said made rayn mafia" <- I never did. So what about you, do you think it`s imperative a lynch today like Damdred, and if so what is the best way to approach it? What about al the convo that Koshi had on Damdred, does it look to you that we are all for townies for now (Damd, Koshi, ryan and me)? @Koshi what`s the reason to vote Fecalfeast? I really don`t like his reasoning to vote you but why did you suddenly change your vote? | ||
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On February 21 2017 04:10 Fecalfeast wrote: Personally malingo i think asking people who they would lynch less than 24hours into day 1 when there are hardly any posts that can be considered alignment indicative is less constructive than questioning your reasoning for wanting to lynch rayn So proposing an hypothetical question that I agree to answer myself first and other players refuse to is less constructive than questioning my own answer to said question. Do you see the logic flaw here don`t you? Your answer was pretty terrible too, but not alignment indicative, sadly. | ||
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On February 21 2017 01:20 Vivax wrote: Koshi + Damdred can be town for now. SL for some reason talks bad about himself and already seems to be on the defensive when he starts posting. Malongo feels very generic with his posts as Koshi pointed out, I don't think we need to talk about policy with this playerlist. These would be my early guesses, rest is still nullish. Hiiiiii rayn I failed to find the post were Koshi talked about me being generic. | ||
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On February 21 2017 05:14 Vivax wrote: What am I refusing to answer Malongo? IF you had the power to lynch someone who would you? On February 21 2017 05:25 Fecalfeast wrote: I gave as serious an answer as I deemed appropriate, given that there's hardly.anything to base a hypothetical lynch on. Palmar MVP so far though But you agree that we are having a lynch an the same basis anyways? Why not to try to take it serious then? And leave Palmar alone is just a butterly. | ||
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On February 21 2017 06:03 Vivax wrote: You are obtuse cause you don't see that he tried to misrep me saying I refused to answer something when the answer was in my filter I still don`t see what your answer was. The only thing I get from you is "I posted my reads wah, wah". Whatever. On February 21 2017 05:56 Fecalfeast wrote: I require more content to produce meaningful reads on my own and nobody has made a compelling argument as to why someone should be lynched. For those reasons it seems silly at its foundation to discuss a hypothetical lynch, at least from my perpective. I will, however, ask you: have the posts since you chose rayn as your hypothetical lynch changed your mind at all? Do you think anything other than rayn's handling of a discussion is alignment indicative? But the only real way to produce real content when you have nothing to work is discussing a lynch or not? Not so silly then. I don`t know about ryan. He seems to be interested in lynching sicklucker now. At this point in the day we are starting to cast the votes so there is not much point in hypothetical questions. On February 21 2017 06:05 Fecalfeast wrote: Are you saying I'm not acute? You actually reminded me. Molongo why was I geouped up with vivax and sicklucker saying there aren't enough posts when i never said that until after? I just put you all together at that time because you didn`t answer anything and started questioning my own answer (except sicklucker who was the starting point). | ||
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On February 21 2017 12:29 sicklucker wrote: and to Malongo. I believe I already answered that q if you read between the lines. I said dandred was suspicious. Its just not that overly important or a reliable read so I didnt feel a need to spam it. and it certainly wont hold up through day 1 lynch on its own You never said that, you wrote "Damdred is too politically correct" or something in those lines, wich I read as "Damdred is a nerd". | ||
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On February 21 2017 17:27 Koshi wrote: + Show Spoiler + On February 21 2017 11:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Actually i'll take back the townread on FF. Idk if he can actually believe... ...in these above posts. The first one i would be willing to let slide but i am not sure, when coupled with the second one, if he is even trying to process what he reads. On February 21 2017 11:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay guys, especially Palmar, let's put some meaning behind the words: Can you elaborate more on what he made up that makes you think he is mafia? Sure he completely left out the next post of yours when making a "case" on you. Sure he completely twisted Malongo's words into talking about policy when that's not what he was talking about. Sure Malongo never said rayn would be mafia for treating it as all town (Koshi+Damdred). How does that make him mafia? I mean - you have seen Vivax play before, right?  I believe Vivax believes in what he is saying instead of jsut making shit up (which is what he would be doing in case he was mafia). I believe saying this: ..if you are scum and know you're just making shit up doesn't make any single bit of sense since this game actually has smart people in it - people who will most likely tell you that you're making up an argument or something.  That being said i think Koshi and Malongo are town too. Damdred sounds town, same with FF to some extent. Palmar can also be town too because while i don't really know what he is trying to do with Vivax - or where to get, he is doing something he looks like he believes into. Maybe i am wrong in something? Otherwise this is too easy. Well from the people above FF looks the least town just because i have probably never seen him post this much in a game before during D1 (lol). But sicklucker is mafia. Apparently you didn't realize that when i first posted about him. The hard part is to explain why, because probably noone will understand that. Let me tell you a story. When sicklucker joins a game he creates a magical sicklucker land on the side. When a game starts sicklucker starts posting from the sicklucker land where important things are very different than the things in the normal people land. sicklucker knows that but sicklucker doesn't care. Only time when sicklucker cares is when sicklucker is mafia -- that's when he tries to post from normal people land but reminds all the other people he is in fact in sicklucker land. I have seen this many times. I have seen it in Office mini mafia, i have seen it in Millioaire Cell mafia, i have seen it in Battle of the Drams. The only time i was wrong with this read early on was in Palmar's Storm game and i was really confused when rsoultin after dying told me that sicklucker is not in their team. He happend to be SK. Basically what he does is he tries to look like he is not caring about the game while still "caring" (as he gets read as scum a lot of times as town for the following ->) when as town he just does his own shit early on and doesn't really care what other people think. + Show Spoiler + As a note sicklucker; I am not trying to say you are bad, you just do your stuff your own way. I laughed when i read the last resistance game and everyone was scumreading you and when you got to a leader position my first thought was "well that's ironic because i think SL is the first one in this game to propose an all town team..." So, i am pretty confident in this read. Maybe Damdred will get what i am trying to say here. Hopefully. ##vote sicklucker Good 2 names. fefe and sl. Not sure if it is the solution yet. I disagree. While I don`t like any of them particulary the reference to FF is weak at best and the case on SL is just too meta based. Ryan may have a point but it`s too dependant on his personal experience. The only thing that makes some sort of sense to me is lynching who refuses to post. It is a long shot, given that Palmar-sicklucker-Fecalfeast haven`t done much. But I`d like them more than a no poster. ##vote Bill Murray. | ||
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On February 22 2017 00:23 Vivax wrote: When your question is aimed at gathering a scumread from someone and then you accuse them for not answering it when they already gave reads, then you are accusing them of not answering something unnecessary. That's it, it's simple and for me the matter is closed. This by the way, is a part of your post that says very little and doesn't line up with your previous observation. It just looks like you're summarizing a bit what rayn is doing and then put out some generic statement to underline that it means nothing. It looks like filler. I just realized that arguing with you is pointless, because you can`t separate from an hypothetical question from a list of reads. | ||
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On February 22 2017 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Ima go to bed soon. Plz dont lynch vivax. He is not mafia. Plz not lynch BM. Thats retarded. Plz lynch sicklucker. He is mafia and plammer will need to step out of his gnot-so-god-mode or he is scum too. Plz dont be retarded. And lynching BM is retarded because? | ||
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On February 22 2017 06:42 sicklucker wrote: het malongo your gonna vote dandred right? and save me right? we can be pals right. I know your ryans friend but hes wrong and should not be followed right Not changing. I actually think you are town btw but also think Damdred is. We can still be pals later | ||
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On February 22 2017 07:16 Koshi wrote: Ok. So Malongo is probably town. Vivax is also town. Palmar needs to stop trolling about Vivax. rayn looked town but can't do anything else than say sicklucker is mafia without adding any new proof. Damdred can flip both ways. Leaning more towards town atm. fefe I don't see why he is town xcept toilet meta. sicklucker is horrible but I can admit I can't read him. And he is getting lynched because of that? Not happy. | ||
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On February 22 2017 07:31 Damdred wrote: Then why won't you change your vote and help him? Or push anyone that has any traction atm besides bm? Because the none of the 3 look like a good lynch to me atm. | ||
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On February 22 2017 07:46 sicklucker wrote: malongo thats nice but you do understand the logic of a wasted vote. at some point you might have to decide vs player a and player b. even if you think both are town you should choose between them I get that more advanced in the game (maybe). But not day 1. | ||
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On February 22 2017 07:58 Koshi wrote: Can somebody explain to me fefe his reads before he makes it himself? Malongo? Or sicklucker? I called you out remember? | ||
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On February 22 2017 08:03 Koshi wrote: I just don't understand the logic in that sentence. It is super convoluted. Reads like mafia just struggling to make a sentence. You are right indeed, but that doesn`t really clear why are you one of the people deciding the lynch tbh. | ||
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On February 22 2017 08:13 Koshi wrote: I am not? We all have one vote. I just throw my ideas out there and hope that people change my mind. I am for example impressed how you called out rayn his case on SL. It is a bit weak to solely use to lynch. And rayn refused to play the game after that, (he will be superpissed that I use those words) but I feel he could have done more to help the thread find the right answers and he didn't. So now I am paranoid and I want to sheep somebody I trust. Which is you or potentially Vivax. But I don't feel like BM is the right lynch. And Vivax is also awol. Take it easy, we are all in the same spot I guess. That`s why I am still believe BM is the right lynch, Vivax looks idiotic to me but not mafia. Ryan is playing his "read" and what I don`t get is how easily he gets away with it. Fuck it I am too tempeted to clean the toilet. | ||
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On February 22 2017 01:54 Fecalfeast wrote: I would vote SL over a lurker and probably the lurker over vivax tbh. I think rayn is towny and palmar doesn't get a town read just because he's RPing. On February 22 2017 09:06 Fecalfeast wrote: I would sheep to palmar get your shit together, Vivax is getting lynched at the moment. | ||
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On February 22 2017 09:28 Damdred wrote: I'll switch to bm lol this is so random. I like it thou. | ||
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On February 22 2017 18:55 Palmar wrote: If you follow me I promise to drain the swamp I`d follow you but I don`t do butterflies. | ||
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On February 22 2017 23:56 Palmar wrote: Did you all run and hide? Do you not want to answer for your crimes? I shall answer for my crimes sir, like a simple man. I am ready. | ||
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On February 23 2017 00:23 Palmar wrote: your crime is not as bad. Going after illegal emigrants is fine. Terrorists are worse, but all scum must leave this town. Oh father, I confess I was not strong enough on my calling out of ryan and his poor case. While I envisioned rationally and clearly that it would cost us an innocent man, I still secretly wished he was right. I confess I was egocentric and coudn`t find a better solution, and that I wanted to have it my way -that is, of course, the case on the infidel emigrant-. | ||
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On February 24 2017 12:01 Bill Murray wrote: i dont see how people continuously push me when i havent done or posted SHIT this game having as much pressure as ive had this game makes me want to just get lynched lol yeah im mafia you caught me go ahead and lynch me LOL what? pressure? you came out of nowhere at the end of day 1 with the FLU remember? + Show Spoiler + On February 22 2017 10:04 Bill Murray wrote: it's kind of idiotic that there are even votes on me at all; i havent been posting lmfao how can you build a case on someone who isnt here? and my inactivity? same as last game. what was i in last game? town who hammered scum on lylo. idk why something always happens right before im about to play but hell im here now and im ready to catch some scum (Y) :D | ||
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On February 24 2017 12:19 Bill Murray wrote: so how come that after you went out on a limb and tried to get a lynch going on an inactive, you went from a formal approach to a more informal approach to the game? i dont suspect you perse, im just curious Why not? lynching a player who may have never appeared (and still does nothing pro town btw) was a lot better then lynching a player that I thought was town and active for whatever weak reasons. | ||
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On February 24 2017 12:35 Bill Murray wrote: than* and you're not answering the question. I asked you how come after you tried to push a lynch, you stopped posting anything other than 1 liners Work and being sort of demotivated. | ||
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On February 24 2017 12:35 Bill Murray wrote: yeah ive been sick. you have a problem with that? I still don`t see the "pressure" care to explain what does having as much pressure as ive had this game makes me want to just get lynched lol mean? | ||
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Damdred: Has started to post with a lot of sense and trying to analize possilble scenarios. I like this guy for now, D1 he was really shady but it doesn`t make sense changing his vote from vivax->bm when vivax was getting lynched if he was mafia. Veredict from me: Most likely town. Vivax: Vivax is for now town because his day 1 readed town. I don`t like him. I don`t like players sheeping players because they want their friends "to get comfy". I don`t like players that vote based on light reads that his friend made. Is he town? most likely, at least he is making some sense in the full ryan vs Palmar stupidity. Veredict from me: Likely town. ryanpelikanpet: Oh boy, that was a poor lynch. Not only ryan called me out being stupid for wanting to lynch BM over sicklucker but he made it in the perfect way so it excluded anything else: + Show Spoiler + On February 22 2017 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Vivax can you just vote for sicklucker please. I can be blamed if he is town which he is not. On February 22 2017 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Ima go to bed soon. Plz dont lynch vivax. He is not mafia. Plz not lynch BM. Thats retarded. Plz lynch sicklucker. He is mafia and plammer will need to step out of his gnot-so-god-mode or he is scum too. Plz dont be retarded. He is actually going down hill for me. Not because of D1 but because he is again starting with yet another shit reason to lynch someone: + Show Spoiler + On February 23 2017 23:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: Here is the thing. .... The problem here is when Palmar is town and he thinks i am mafia he will 100% vote for me and try to convince everyone else to vote for me because he values lynching me when he thinks i am mafia. There is literally 0% chance Palmar actually thinks i am mafia and doesn't vote for me. ... Thats exactly the same type of reasoning that got us sicklucker lynched: "Hey, I know this guy I know how he thinks, I am smart, ergo..." Let me rephrase it for you. The reason ryan thinks Palmar is mafia is because: "he values lynching me (ryan) when he thinks i am mafia." His reasoning fails miserably: First for the fact that Palmar is trolling all game long. Second because it depends on a "meta" read that only ryan can evaluate (D1 lynch says hello). Third, because Palmar is actually lynching him. Instead of really trying to play the game ryan appears to me as he is just shooting random bullets. Veredict from me: Possible town Palmar: Town troll. May be cop? Yes but unlikely. May be town? yes. May be mafia? yes. What I don`t like about Palmar is: 1) I feel we are almost forced to lynch him if the games goes lylo 2) He is monopolizing the game with ryab vs Palmar. What I like about him is that at least he is not mixing his papers. Veredict from me: town troll, leave him alone. Don`t argue him. Don`t. Lynch hm on Lylo, or trust him on your own risk. Bill Murray: This guy should have gone away D1. Life would be so easy now. Not only he is hardly cooperating but his defensive position on his own inactivity makes him hard to read as town for me. + Show Spoiler + On February 24 2017 12:56 Bill Murray wrote: last game, i got 0 votes while posting tons; things i probably should have gotten votes for, and i hammered the last mafia in lylo. You're welcome. :D this game, i was sick, wasnt even here for people to get a read on. i come in to see an actual wagon on me... not surprising. TL always goes for inactives or lurkers. just felt off. i felt bad too. didnt feel like doing any work in the thread, not just because i felt bad/sick, but because i didnt feel like reading what people were saying. turns out it wasnt a big deal and it was just a couple people, but I didn't really know what to expect at the time, since I hadn't read the thread yet. the point is, i don't work well under pressure. i was able to play as well as i did last game because i wasn't pressured. I mean i wasn't pressured AT ALL. 0 votes. cero. zero, zilch, nada. if i'm at threat of a lynch, i can't worry about defending other people, or building cases on other people, and i have to worry about defending myself. i dont work well under pressure. maybe it's not as bad anymore, where im older, and i really dont care that much, but where ive been sick, im feeling a little weaker, and more ... idk. this illness has been weird and has made me feel childish I mean when I read this post I feel genuinely trolled. For real. Comes out of nowhere and votes on a random wagon because who knows. I could say a lot more things but I`ll let you read his extensive filter. Veredict from me: Null Fecalfeast: I am putting my chips on him today. I mean look at his filter, he is as terrilbe as it gets (Koshi had a post calling him out). Half the game rambling about some generic reads. -He has this type of posts "Look at this mafia guys make something out of it because I don`t want to get involved because you better killyourselfs." + Show Spoiler + On February 21 2017 09:52 Fecalfeast wrote: So palmar shits out the most obscene accusation and nobody is around to comment is it a bad time for europe? On February 22 2017 09:34 Fecalfeast wrote: Damdred comes in less than an hour left and says he'll move to the lurker after having his vote on a towny all day right in the middle of a scramble to conaolidate votes.... Does that not seem super scummy to anyone else? -He has the "I don`t know anything but i will call everyone mafia witout trying to solve the game" posts and a last minute terrible lynch switch. + Show Spoiler + On February 24 2017 01:46 Fecalfeast wrote: I don't know anything really. If I were to assume one of you is scum, I would assume palmar. Partnered with palmar i could see BM based on his eod last second vote into total mia for 30 hours. Yeah palmar BM makes sense to me right now. Incase t isn't clear yet i am phone posting at work again On February 24 2017 04:01 Fecalfeast wrote: Damdred bm and mendelen should come by and play. The possibility of one or both scums just sitting and watching makes me uneasy On February 24 2017 14:17 Fecalfeast wrote: BM is town, Damdred is scum. Malongo why are you demotivated? Veredict from me: Likely Mafia | ||
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It just doesn`t help us. If I feel forced to chage my vote near the deadline I am most likely going to vote ryan. Because it doesn`t make any sense for me that 1 mafia (one of them) picked a townie to get them both killed D2 and D3 in case the townie gets lynched first on D2 (wifom obvioulsly). Palmar may be town troll but he knows he is getting lynched D3 if ryan flips green. On the other hand ryan just has that tiny oportunity window to defend D3 if Palmar flips green. All that being said I don`t want any of them gone, ##vote FecalFeast | ||
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On February 25 2017 05:27 Fecalfeast wrote: Ok ##unvote ##vote malongo The reason being? | ||
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On February 25 2017 05:27 Fecalfeast wrote: Ok ##unvote ##vote malongo Two times people voting you, you take the same random position of voting them back for no reason at all. (Though you answered me after I voted you): Thats a 10-15 year old psyche wich I doubt you are. | ||
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On February 25 2017 05:47 Fecalfeast wrote: Your reasons for calling me mafia are not reasons, you went through everyone in the game callig them town or null and had to call someone mafia so you picked me the low hanging fruit who has hardly any time to play before deadline. Your reads all seem to be based on surface reading/skimming. Low effort but tryig to make your read post seem high effort. You feel the pressure since everyone else is starting to actually act towny. That's how i see it anyway since i know I'm town Yes they are, your posting shows traces of red posting all over the place, I just put there 2 with striking similarities. Yes, I went through everyone in the game, you are by far the most mafia likely in the list based on your posts/voting. I just put you at the end because of that, It is not like I needed to put someone in red. YOUR POSTING SUGGEST IT. Maybe my analitic hability is not the best. But it is what I have. It actually took me a lot of time figuring out if BM could be really be town here, because his "don`t put a vote on me or I might feel pressured" post looks like a 10 year old. I don`t feel any pressure to be honest. And I still fail to see any content in your posts. Also, that doesn`t add up because if you are really town then you would be making some effort yourself, instead of voting back the one player that called you out. | ||
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On February 25 2017 06:24 Vivax wrote: So, should we pretend the Palmar vs Rayn thing never happened? It doesn't feel right. I want you to look at this and tell me if you would have thought that Palmar was cop for that drawing. Cause it was clearly rayn's perspective at the time. It is ok if you want to keep arguing about that. As I said ryan as lost a lot of ponts lately on my book. But any ability to choose beetween the two only concentrates the discussion. To answer your question, it doesn`t make sense unless you are very annoyed at Palmars play. That`s why I think there`s no point in taking him seriously. | ||
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On February 25 2017 06:38 Vivax wrote: Why does the lynch of one automatically lead to the lynch of the other? It is almost never the case unless in direct CCs. I also don't know why you think FF is scum cause he voted back the person who voted him back, twice. For that matter, rayn also made a case on Palmar once he thought that a cop was calling him mafia. Yet you think that convo is a TvT. What I am saying is this: Palmar says one of them should be lynched today. Palmar is playing troll game. Lets say we lynch Palmar and he flips green do we really have other choice given ryans posts and "reads" this game? On the opposite, lets say ryan is lynched and he flips green. Would you really let the player that trolled all the game and got a town lynched get away in lylo? So for me "if" we lynch one of them and flips green then it is almost autolynch next day. At least for me. FF is not mafia because he voted back twice, I say he is mafia because his posting shows coincidence with mafia position as put previously. I reference ryans case on Palmar in my large post, I find it weak. I read all the Palmar vs ryan as troll vs town for now, but as I already said I would vote ryan if forced. | ||
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On February 25 2017 06:45 Vivax wrote: And I assume Damdred will post more today cause he still has to vote, so please don't start doing that when all euros went to bed. I'll be around until late probably. In any case, both Damdred and Malongo are advocating that both rayn and Palmar are town cause they say that it's a suicidal trade off for mafia. BM on the other hand adopts a saner attitude and demands a clearer stance from Palmar, I prefer BMs approach much more cause it looks less like it could be made up. I think of the bunch of the two rayn comes off worse cause he has overreacted to a Palmar that up until that point, was widely accepted as a trolling Palmar. So instead of first inquiring whether Palmar is serious or not, rayn immediately went to the counter offensive seeing a cop claim where most just weren't sure what to believe. I don`t know about Damdred. I don`t know if one of them is mafia, ryans reasons are weak, Palmars reasosn are... none. I don`t see how asking the town troll to set up a clear stace is saner. I agree that ryan went a little worst on the overreaction. Does it make him mafia? I don`t know. FF and his posts on the other hand make a lot more definite style. | ||
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On February 25 2017 07:05 Vivax wrote: Do you really think Palmar is still playing a troll game? He's calling mafias terrorists and emigrants but otherwise, I think those are pretty much his reads. He's just wrapping them up in carnival suits. From the momet he puts his reads with 0 backup he is trolling for me. Not even 1 reference. | ||
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On February 25 2017 07:20 Vivax wrote: How can you say that you would vote rayn if forced to if you don't believe anything Palmar says anyway? I have trouble understanding your perspective there. Because I would not be voting because of Palmar reasons. This is my perspective: I say it`s possible both are town and I don`t want to lynch any of them. They both say one of them is mafia as I read it. So if we lynch one of them and flips town then we have to actually go all along and lynch the other, it doesn`t make sense to me to lynch Palmar and not to flip ryan next day (if he flips green), nor makes sense to lynch ryan and not to lynch the town troll on lylo if he flips green. If we flip ryan first and green there is almost no defence to Palmar next day. I mean the guy hasn`t done anything at all trying to support his theory. If we flip Palmar first and green then ryan can still pull out the "I was almost sure he was mafia guys, he was trolling anyways" argument as defence and gey away with no getting lynched. I don`t want that. So IF it comes down to my vote forced on one of them I would rather lynch ryan first. Thats it. | ||
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On February 25 2017 08:15 Damdred wrote: Like my gut says r bm Is probably town. I don't know go much I like that but I am unsure the scum motivation would be to unvote me like that and townread m. And gad a couple posts I liked about Palma rayn. So leaves me in a world where it's I of rayn/palmar ff/mal Or just mal+ff which I least likely world sigh now unless they are doing agreat double bus I don`t like how BM gets a "probably" town from all of you. | ||
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On February 24 2017 12:56 Bill Murray wrote: last game, i got 0 votes while posting tons; things i probably should have gotten votes for, and i hammered the last mafia in lylo. You're welcome. :D this game, i was sick, wasnt even here for people to get a read on. i come in to see an actual wagon on me... not surprising. TL always goes for inactives or lurkers. just felt off. i felt bad too. didnt feel like doing any work in the thread, not just because i felt bad/sick, but because i didnt feel like reading what people were saying. turns out it wasnt a big deal and it was just a couple people, but I didn't really know what to expect at the time, since I hadn't read the thread yet. the point is, i don't work well under pressure. i was able to play as well as i did last game because i wasn't pressured. I mean i wasn't pressured AT ALL. 0 votes. cero. zero, zilch, nada. if i'm at threat of a lynch, i can't worry about defending other people, or building cases on other people, and i have to worry about defending myself. i dont work well under pressure. maybe it's not as bad anymore, where im older, and i really dont care that much, but where ive been sick, im feeling a little weaker, and more ... idk. this illness has been weird and has made me feel childish I mean I don`t know if he was trolling or what, maybe he is that kind of childish. Anyways I would vote for him too. | ||
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On February 25 2017 08:39 Fecalfeast wrote: Which means please consolidate your votes. I am almost 100% convinced you are mafia here. Just look at the votes. You came out of nowhere with the counter vote becuase 0 reasons. Then BM comes out and votes me too because I insulted him too many times wich is worst than Palmar level of reasoning. And now you are asking to consolidate, that is, you want me to swap to Palmar/ryan not to get lynched myself. That is scumplay at his finest. I am not moving out of you even if I get lynched. | ||
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On February 25 2017 09:04 Damdred wrote: Vivax what are you at when I need you. Mal attitude is super suicidal which makes me lean town, God dangit. Decisions. I am not suicidal, I am just playing the game the right way. | ||
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On February 25 2017 09:14 Vivax wrote: He's probably town without being suicidal. If you are not mafia here, can you sell me a believable combination? Without just skipping Palmar + rayn which makes me uncomfortable when it is done, especially since both stopped fighting the fight for each other's lynch. Maybe because the whole Palmar vs ryan thing was started with Palmar playing the troll game wich makes it useless. Whatever, someone in this town is playing the wrong game (the real townies). May be me. | ||
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On February 25 2017 09:11 Vivax wrote: Why not? He posts reasons for his reads, has sass,and gives us a summary of his reads. I'm feelingt that you, FF and BM all have done townie things. FF for example had an opening on me yesterday, you post very believable and thought out posts like your summary lately, BM does that too but with less formatting. Tone wise you are all in the confident category. I am pretty bad at reading FF and BM though so I'm flip floppy on these two. My current best guess for mafia is Damdred + rayn. Maybe Palmar + Damdred. And this is going to sound crazy, but Palmar + rayn are also an option cause their double bus would split town apart and allow one of them to carry, possibly with an unCCd cop claim on his shoulders. They are good enough players to do such things. As for Damdred, he seems to show up at strategic moments, only posting late in the day, and to emulate what he thinks are townies with some leverage. I think he did that yesterday with Palmar when he scumread me, and he's doing it today when you're scumreading FF. Although he did call FF scum at EoD yesterday. Then again I found his tidbit on Malongo out of place as well. For me Malongo was the sort of player who looked scummy early in the day and then picked up later in the game. And what's another giveaway is that I don't see him evaluating what BM has posted today which seemed townie to me. This is what strikes me the most. What post from BM made you think he was townie? | ||
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On February 25 2017 09:27 Damdred wrote: Maybe I should rethink my vivax read it seems he kinda ignores my posts... I also called ff scum before anyone else made a semi case on him. I made my points on mal before ff and he agreed with me. In fact the later half of the day I've basically given most of the thoughts first. And I did evaluate bm, putting him into town like a couple of times? Like vivax idk are you reading the game? What points, he is voting me because I called him out, he has like 0 analysis on me. Also it was Koshi the first to note FF was scumposting. Whatever, neither you nor vivax have put any insight in the fact that FF and BM are voting for bullshit reasons on me. | ||
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On February 25 2017 09:44 Damdred wrote: He agreed on the post I made about you and then added his suspicions about you earlier in the day. Bm reasoning is horrid about voting you. Ff well I could we that one a no more, he put suspicions earlier and thinks your scum read on him was bad. I liked your reads list, and your response to getting lynched. The post where I looked bad because I didn`t post too much Day 2? I can`t say much about that, I just refuse to enter the ryan/Palmar vortex (but I have my position already stated). I was going to vote ryan if forced. But not after FF posted calling to consolidate. I am staying were I am. | ||
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On February 25 2017 09:53 Damdred wrote: I mean though it is t owny calling for cobsolidation Plus is not townie to call for consolidation when you are voting for a player because he just voted you. | ||
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On February 25 2017 10:01 Vivax wrote: Malongo when you are town, getting yourself lynched is technically against win condition. Rayn, but I don't see you considering to vote him even a bit. Saying things is one thing, acting on them another. I am not getting myself lynched: 2 players that you put on townie read are voting me for literally 0 reasons, yet you fail to make anything out of it. | ||
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On February 25 2017 10:09 Damdred wrote: No I said I kinda wanted to lynch rayn today. I might be willing to do ff as well. Like I think rayn+ff makes sense. But I don't want mal lynched so we need to move together now and mal needs to come with us why? Malongo 2 ryan 2 palmar 1 ff 1 why do you want me to change my vote? | ||
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On February 25 2017 10:19 Damdred wrote: Well we have 10-12 minutes to figure out a good lynch then. Ff is possible but idk. Rayn hasn't really cared to much today when mafia palmar had him in his sites (to him) Are you 100% sold on vivax being town mal? I am not sold to anyone beign town. Not even you. But FF is the right lynch today. | ||
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On February 25 2017 10:24 Damdred wrote: I disagree ff had actual reason for voting you based on your read on him. It is omgus but it is there. So why else Not really. He wanted to come out late and put his vote last, thats all. | ||
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On February 25 2017 10:28 Damdred wrote: That's narrative not fact, and he didn't even vote last Thats what he made day 1. Thats fact. He didn`t even post here unlike day 1 wich is also fact. | ||
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On February 25 2017 10:53 Damdred wrote: Because it was impossible, it was lynch rayn or let you v lynched as vivax leaves after voting rayn. Which is interesting. The only interesting thing about this game is why FF and BM aren`t dead. If it turns out to be Palmar/Vivax I say gg cause we played like morons. | ||
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On February 25 2017 11:00 Damdred wrote: Honestly it's probably vivax plus one. Like I understand you are funneled on ff. Bm well I can understand arguments about his usefulness, and his two deal votes. But today we were extremely limited due to how votes were. So yeah, just explain in detail why ff is 100% scum to me besides he has crap reasons for voting you. Or include them to I just want to see you make a case on him. I don`t really know, I made my case already. If you turn out to be mafia please kill me tonight. | ||
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On February 25 2017 11:04 Damdred wrote: Honestly bm+vivax might make a lot of sense but I need to look at things tonight tommorow I fail to see why it can`t be Palmar/someone else. | ||
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On February 25 2017 16:03 Bill Murray wrote: It's LYLO so no I'll have to vote who I think is scum So you voted for me thinking I was town? Well done. | ||
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On February 28 2017 10:42 Fecalfeast wrote: I don't feel like I deserve 50 points but compared to BM and damdred I'll take it. you don`t I feel robbed  . Thou I don`t even know what are those for. | ||
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On February 28 2017 10:44 Fecalfeast wrote: Qualifying points for allstar type game I am already a star. Surely I`ll get an invite anyways. | ||
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On February 28 2017 16:37 Palmar wrote: It is always a terrible idea to ignore my day 1 gut calls. Well at least, if people would've actually listened to me on day 1 we would've won. But alas But it`s quite unlikely you will get people to follow you if you are playing the troll card, and you knew that. | ||
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On March 01 2017 07:25 Damdred wrote: I'm ok now, I got a horrid case of food posioning that was resistant to treatment. So they forced fluids into me asni shot them back out. Was not an enjoyable few days. Sounds awful. Good to hear you are ok now. | ||
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On February 28 2017 22:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why couldnt you just explain your Vivax read Palmar?  btw Malongo, cut the crap with me being disruptive. I was trying to get what i thought was true across and you are grouping me up with someone who was a fucking troll and should be mafia for being a fucking troll because he is better than that.Btw you all lynched me for being redchecked by someone who you didnt even believe was a cop?!?!?!? How retarded is that? Dude you weren`t disruptive because you were trying to get what you wanted, I was trying to get what I wanted too. You were disruptive because you concentrated town discussion around you and your reads. I guess 25% is not that bad afterall. | ||
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