[T][M] Resistance VI

On January 19 2017 06:10 Chairman Ray wrote:
/in

On January 27 2017 09:07 Half the Sky wrote:
Evening lovelies, I’m resistance too, but surely someone in this bunch is capable of saying that, or frankly anything posted so far, as either alignment.

And LOL Tina, sleep is for the weak

To add to the setup discussion, as someone who has played resistance before in forum and real life, I do agree with the points made by Ray, but for people new to this game, should mission 1 pass, do not assume that all three members on mission 1 are part of the resistance. At least in my experience, there’s been far too many times where people don’t re-examine the first three people and then for mission 2, they hyper-focus on player 4 that becomes the add-on.

On January 27 2017 12:47 Tumblewood wrote:
hi hello it is me
I haven't played in a resistance setup before but it seems pretty simple? seems like a pretty poor risk/reward for mafia to let a mission pass just for town cred, unless all the players are town-of-salem-tier scrubs.
btw grack that joke was pretty lame

On January 28 2017 03:31 Vivax wrote:


You seem R cause gut feeling.
Superbia seems R cause he seems to be plaing to the best of his abilities which is a good indicator. Also liked his read on me but that's a more subjective reason.
RtaniSoul seem derpy and too hung up on sending themselves. I suspect them of being S while sending two R along with them.

On January 28 2017 03:49 Vivax wrote:


It's always safe to send yourself cuz of the "i know im town argument" duh.

On January 28 2017 03:55 RtaniSoul wrote:
also, grack, i think i'd rather you be forthright with your vote. can't really conceive of a reason as to why you'd hide it

On January 28 2017 07:57 Tumblewood wrote:
can't even give you townie cred for winning an argument against vivax. come on, v, get a real reason to scumread rtani

On January 28 2017 08:37 Tumblewood wrote:

no, I think you may be even townier for being this bad but I also politely request you be less bad
also I am just examining super and swika, and rtani to an extent, just now

On January 28 2017 21:20 RtaniSoul wrote:

I'm not necessarily townreading grack >> he's making sense and I'm not used to him making sense so I have no idea what it means.

On January 29 2017 03:10 Superbia wrote:
Town ^

On January 29 2017 07:25 sharkie wrote:


someone called you that before so I thought that is your name?



what do you mean with vote up? I liked the team so thats why I approved it, I am not the next person to nominate a team!

On January 29 2017 09:12 Superbia wrote:


This feels pretty forced dude (also it makes 0% sense as both calix and sharkie replaced experienced players).

On January 29 2017 15:09 Tumblewood wrote:
as nice as it would be to wait until the middle of the night to post my team so it could be 12 hours and a couple minutes after the start of the cycle, I'm not interested in people yelling at me while I'm asleep
this is temporary but not really cuz it's probably right
##nominate: tumblewood, grackaroni, vivax

On January 30 2017 03:45 RtaniSoul wrote:
Also we're probably nayvoting the team. We like Tumble, lean mildly town on Vivax and don't trust Grack. He changed his behaviour right after we pointed out he was making too much sense.

On January 30 2017 04:47 Vivax wrote:


Why not superbia instead of artisoul?

On January 29 2017 08:22 Superbia wrote:
TW is going to include ritasoul and silver and himself in his team btw. Very obvious play.

Vote no.

On January 30 2017 04:48 RtaniSoul wrote:


i'm good with that...and i don't see why lex wouldn't be since i'm less sure about super than he is ^^

@sharkie: fair lol >< not sure exactly what you mean by the last bit but not trusting tumble is reason enough

@grack: lex is better able to describe it than me; he's the one who noticed you acting differently, then you lightened up after he mentioned it, at least to my perception

On January 30 2017 04:55 RtaniSoul wrote:

Stop it, you're making me waffle

On January 30 2017 05:05 RtaniSoul wrote:

Not enough shitposting this game. You've been much more useful than I'm used to!

On January 30 2017 18:02 Superbia wrote:


Yeh I'm being a bit more serious because I want the win. But right now I'm enjoying being a sarcastic asshole.

On January 30 2017 17:58 Superbia wrote:
What can possibly go wrong? :D

On January 30 2017 18:15 Superbia wrote:
Gracky, who would you put on a team?

On January 30 2017 19:03 Superbia wrote:


What exactly triggered the flip?

On January 31 2017 07:45 Tumblewood wrote:
wow that was even harsher than I expected

On January 31 2017 21:09 RtaniSoul wrote:

Sounds like you have more information than we do

On February 01 2017 06:19 sicklucker wrote:



considering hes the only one I said might be mafia no shit

On January 29 2017 13:32 sicklucker wrote:


ya sharkie could be mafia. is there a mafia qt in this game?

On February 01 2017 06:35 RtaniSoul wrote:


i'm still interested in playing where's the mafia with you, grack...out of your option number 3

On February 01 2017 06:46 emperorchampion wrote:
Mm I think I just stick with original + I'm peacing soon

I feel good about this team :D and I encourage y'all to vote yay!!

On February 01 2017 07:10 sharkie wrote:


Ignored and accused. But as I read this game correctly you don't even need me to win this game, right? Only 5/6 are necessary to win as rebels

On February 01 2017 13:23 Vivax wrote:
Morning gents.

Today I want to see superbia and TW fighting as they both distrust each other yet as spies they should want the team to pass.

Looking forward to their reasoning for the respective vote.

On February 02 2017 06:06 Vivax wrote:


Why aren't you making any sense?

On February 02 2017 06:18 Silverika wrote:
Well, if missions keep getting rejected, I'm not sure how much more I'll put effort in here. If we can't move forward, I really have nothing to say.

~SilverWolf77

On February 02 2017 19:25 Vivax wrote:


Approved. I like his thoughts to the super and tumble matter as I also dislike them much more since they literally didn't care. And I like that you suggest this.

Next suggestion is

Sharkie/Ika/Grack

On February 02 2017 09:04 sicklucker wrote:


why are you mad? now you get to pick a team...

scummy mc scum scum

On February 02 2017 21:59 sicklucker wrote:
silvers so mad at me and it does not make anysense. like it has to be fake rage right? wtf did I even do

On February 04 2017 01:18 Tumblewood wrote:

this explains a whole lot....
maybe sharkie is just newbie town who mysteriously has 13k posts

On February 04 2017 01:28 Vivax wrote:


Wow such scum

On February 04 2017 01:32 Vivax wrote:
Yeh it looks like you only thought of two spies while knowing you're the third lul.

Are scumslips real? Don't miss the resistance edition.

On February 04 2017 12:08 Vivax wrote:


Gives a good deal of info even if it fails though.

It means I can seriously consider the rtanisoul + sharkie spy world.

They better pass ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

On February 04 2017 12:34 Vivax wrote:


That world probably means TW is probably spy though, if you look at rtanisouls earlier posts when they said they would approve Grack/silverika/TW.

And it would also mean that SL is town and that coming in occasionally to drop a turd of a post and then disappear is his most recent town play.

On February 05 2017 07:38 Superbia wrote:
?

On February 06 2017 14:24 Vivax wrote:


And I have no idea why you are deemed the king of shitposts. I like your style, it just lacks the humour you had back in GoT mafia.

On February 07 2017 02:16 emperorchampion wrote:
Without going to filter dive, something along the lines of: "townread on super, if fails look at tumble as potential scum; also provides some votes to go on for the future / get some action".

On February 07 2017 03:14 Silverika wrote:


I was trying to think of scum sharkie wanting scum rtanisoul on a mission, when he was already on it, as highly unlikely. They only need one fail vote.

~SilverWolf77

On February 07 2017 03:23 RtaniSoul wrote:
People have been sniping at our slot since the get go for shitty reasons nothing to do with OUR play and it's made both of us quite frustrated. She's at uni right now but she vented about it herself yesterday.

On February 07 2017 03:15 sharkie wrote:


I know that is not your main message but could we all please stop accusing other people of spies JUST BECAUSE THEY ACCUSE YOU?
Also just because someone calls you resistance DOES NOT MEAN that they are not spies... Sheesh.

On February 07 2017 03:33 Silverika wrote:


Aren't there 6 townie's?

On February 07 2017 07:20 Superbia wrote:


The fucking math play!? You mean the meth play. I had a post detailing why the original 3 had a mafia in them like super likely. Straight from the votes.

On February 07 2017 07:31 Superbia wrote:
Grack I hated your "okay im gonna pass this team" post. I thought it was votebait but apparently not. Felt very forced

On February 08 2017 00:38 Superbia wrote:


Explain votes on mission 4 in this world.

All mafia vote yes suddenly even though no one is on the team?

On February 08 2017 00:43 Superbia wrote:


Some sort of bid for the second team? Seems like a bit of a stretch..

Keep in mind scum have no QT to coordinate.

On February 08 2017 00:49 Superbia wrote:


Or they just vote no and one of them gets added to the team by silver to auto-pass team #5.

On February 08 2017 00:50 Vivax wrote:
Earlier:



Now:



My, my, Grack. Just when you had earned my favour ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

On February 08 2017 00:53 Vivax wrote:


Even then the same argument shouldn't lead to different conclusions for you.

Unless you use it just to make up reads when they suit the moment ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

On February 08 2017 01:07 RtaniSoul wrote:
Also, Grack, why is Silver exempt from the thing you judge Vivax for? Silver has been extremely stubborn on the sharkie and rtani are spies train and grack/vivax are supertown too.

On February 08 2017 01:10 RtaniSoul wrote:
Also, Grack, why am I mafia? You've created a scenario in which I could be a spy with Vivax based on how the votes went but there's no actual arguments for why I'm mafia in there.

On February 08 2017 01:26 RtaniSoul wrote:

What I don't understand is that I've been saying pretty much the same as sharkie as well as a lot of other things, yet you don't townread me. Why?

I do follow your logic on why it doesn't make sense for a spy to vote for the first one if it was clean unless they have a good presence. One explanation I see is that if it didn't go through, silver would get a mission and it'd auto pass and silver's reads did not include scum for his choices. Another would be that at least this way they can get cred for voting for a passed mission.

On February 08 2017 01:41 emperorchampion wrote:


Wait, isn't that asking (as a spy) to have two failed missions? Since the next person in line is going to pick an all resistance team as well. I think Vivax would just add himself instead of sharkie, that team would have likely passed. Pretty sure that's a better option unless in this world vivax is going for some solo carry strat with sl/tw as his team mates.

On February 08 2017 19:05 RtaniSoul wrote:
I'm actually starting to think grack is the spy. Bleh.

^ cause i explained it to him though to be fair, he's still very convinced sharkie is town (resistance whatevs) based on feels. but mainly it comes down to grack being so adamant that it must be vivax...as town i'd expect him to be more leery of the other two on the first mission with him, but instead he goes straight to it's the new guy!

there's more spy motive to that than town...namely, if you say it's the new guy loud enough maybe no one looks to the original three

On February 08 2017 19:09 RtaniSoul wrote:
For me it's also a PoE thing. Sharkie looks overwhelmingly town in so many of his posts as does Silverika, and the amount Vivax has invested in this game plus his usual tunnelvision suggests pretty strongly that he's town to me as well.

The main argument to defend Grack is that he could've failed the first mission and sharkie would've been blamed, but since that's what everyone would expect him to do as spy it's the perfect thing to pad your towncred with down the line. It creates a much higher chance to be on two missions.

On February 09 2017 01:25 RtaniSoul wrote:
Typing from mobile
Sharkie, there's two reasons from my side. The first is that the reasons to townread Grack for me has always been what he's done rather than how he's done it. The two reasons to townread Grack beyond some of his content are that the first mission passed when he could've failed it and let the blame hit you, and that he scumread vivax when he could've joined the sharkie/rtan hate train.

The first can be explained by the fact that if he's a spy, grack is probably their carry. Failing the first mission is more likely to get him scrutiny down the road as many people have used this argument to call him town. The second I believe comes from TMI. He knows you're resistance and reading what you've posted it looks really townie to him, plus it seems like something that spies are unlikely to do which has been the foundation of his townread.

The second is that all the three others have done things I find much more unlikely to come from scum. Silverika has pushed the thread forward a myriad of times and his reads have been rigid at times yet flexible at others, most notably in their return just now where he got off the rtan/sharkie is def spies train to re-eval that. They aren't in a rush to draw a conclusion either. I went through their filter a bit yesterday and found it impossible to see a spy narrative there.

Vivax is harder to explain and simple at the same time. He sucks at scum and unless he has a strong team is unlikely to try hard. Additionally, the weird things he's done just don't have the predictable townread consequences that grack has. Forcing yourself not to be on a team even when everyone TR's you doesn't make sense for scum. He also feels like he was way too smug about "catching" us which I have difficulty seeing coming from scum Vivax.

On February 09 2017 04:47 RtaniSoul wrote:


??? how exactly do you think it's a reasonable PoE when the PoE leads to you? like it literally says "everyone else is posting townie, and our main reason to townread grack was the success of the first mission"

you're not making sense

On February 09 2017 05:28 RtaniSoul wrote:


if you mean where does our poe take us if the host declares you an innocent child, then i guess probably vivax as well. is that what you're trying to get at?

On February 09 2017 06:05 sicklucker wrote:


lol? yes i do you dont

On February 09 2017 06:09 RtaniSoul wrote:


maybe we were reading a different game? your theory hinges on vivax being scared shitless to alter his position on anything as scum, yeah? so if he's too scared to put himself on a team, and too scared to change his read on us, and whoever this third is is never going to make a team as you claim...

like why even play? lol >< half the game was convinced sharkie was scum cause vote logic and vivax led the anti-rtani crusade. this doesn't make sense grack

@ sl

but, but, i don't want sharkie to be scum, cause if that's the case lex and i are the biggest suckers on the planet :/

On February 09 2017 06:15 RtaniSoul wrote:


do you disagree with my logic?

On February 09 2017 06:16 RtaniSoul wrote:

regarding vivax unlikely to be scum by himself -_-

On February 09 2017 06:22 RtaniSoul wrote:


okay now i just want you to tell me that i'm right ^^ it's mean to say you don't agree with my logic but at the same time seem to accept it by suspecting silver

if you don't think what i'm saying makes sense, why do you think it's silver now?

On February 09 2017 06:26 sicklucker wrote:


that was my original theory =[

On February 09 2017 06:36 sicklucker wrote:
so in a silver is scum world safe to say im town eh?

On February 09 2017 06:37 RtaniSoul wrote:


>> -flicks- no, see that's not how this works. you say, rsoul, you're brilliant, your logic is amazing (cause it is!) and you have shown me the light! i now realize how stupid i was to even suggest this possibility of scum yoloing based off silliness

ego-stroking is very good for an rsoul. saying he's reevaluating because she's too stupid to grasp his theory is very rude. exceedingly rude. (first off, i do grasp it just fine, just don't see it as valid even if i didn't already know it was wrong lol ><) and second off lying to be nice is a thing

THE RSOUL ISN'T STUPID -beats with an overripe banana

On February 09 2017 07:02 RtaniSoul wrote:


-squints at- you still haven't corrected my logic at all, because my logic is infallible! unassailable! would require an insane vivax of craziness!

(yes i am still trying to get someone to show me how i'm wrong; no dice so far. must mean i'm right )

more to the point, you reevaluating based not on my unassailable logic but rather on the shoddy logic that my not following your theory 'invalidates' it is kinda poor. if spies don't have a qt, i don't have to understand what vivax is doing for us to be spies together. that's a pretty strange reason to drop the theory entirely

On February 09 2017 07:45 RtaniSoul wrote:

The difference between you and Vivax is that Vivax calls me mafia literally every single game except when I'm mafia.

As for the 'unlikely to come from mafia and therefore it must come from mafia', it was more related to the fact that those actions have defined most people's reasons for townreading you including my own. It was more explaining how they can make sense from scum which felt like a more reasonable explanation than I could think of for any of the other people on the mission.

On February 09 2017 08:03 RtaniSoul wrote:

180ing on a read is something different than letting town decide on the fate of several missions. As for passing the first mission, that's fairly normal. Scum tends to pass the first mission; it's the fact that Sharkie was contested that people believe it's a valid argument to make. The reasons for the actions you'd have taken as a spy are more clear than Vivax, and I don't see Vivax as a flashy scum player. Especially the threatening to put us on the mission instead of Sharkie seems like something that doesn't click with me on that.

Do you still believe we're mafia?

On February 09 2017 17:04 Silverika wrote:
Sharkie-I already said I think he did it because everyone has been saying all game he'd go after you as a spy. I don't understand his shifting reads. I'm also townreading Artani Soul as one of my top reads so I don't think that team combination makes sense. I don't think fracks shifting reads make a lot of sense. I wish I could give you more to say Vivax is clearly Town. He's a weakercread than you or Rtani Soul but I'm not seeing much spy motivation in his behavior and his tone/analysis leans Town.

Can you go over your scumread of him with me again?

~SW

On February 09 2017 22:09 Silverika wrote:


your reasoning for shifting reads makes little sense is what shes saying. she isnt calling you town either

On February 09 2017 23:36 Silverika wrote:


i have not called vivax scum either. where are you getting this shit?

On February 09 2017 23:50 Silverika wrote:


We explained all our reads and how we got there in detail in all our posts.If you need clarification, let us know.

I'm talking about all your reads and the unclear progression that is bugging us about you. Not just sharkie. I know I've explained it to death it seems. Any questions, ask.

I don't want to keep repeating myself if people don't first read our posts.

Also, for the second time, did you read our scum games?

~SW

On February 10 2017 03:41 Silverika wrote:
Like not reading the scum games was one thing ika and I were looking for because you asked for them. It was pointless busy work to make yourself look town.Then to say we aren't doing our own thing despite the massive amount of analysis we've put forth, then that means you just want us to be your scumread you have to have because we are pushing you the hardest and you have to have one on this mission. You flip your reads like the wind because they are fake.

~SW

On February 10 2017 03:46 Vivax wrote:
Grack what are your spy team iterations atm?

Me/Swika/RtaniSoul?

On February 10 2017 03:49 Silverika wrote:


More mudslinging from someone who isn't reading our posts and there was actually more to it than that but since you aren't reading us and don't care, I'm not gonna repeat myself.

~SW

On February 11 2017 05:25 RtaniSoul wrote:
Everyone shut up. In the next 25 hours I only want to hear Superbia or people talking to Superbia. This is his moment. If he fucks off we all vote no anyway.

On February 11 2017 07:32 sicklucker wrote:
you posted a low percentage team to pass like me. but dont include yourself. that makes no sense to me. your less scum read then me for sure

On February 11 2017 13:20 Silverika wrote:


Isn't that exactly what you did to us?

~SW

[B]On February 08 2017 00:53 Vivax wrote:


Even then the same argument shouldn't lead to different conclusions for you.

Unless you use it just to make up reads when they suit the moment ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

On February 11 2017 14:01 Silverika wrote:
Do you still think they are a pairing? If so, why put Artanisoul on the team?

~SW

On February 11 2017 20:42 Vivax wrote:
Well my three scenarios are:

• Sharkie + Grack were both spies. Seeing no out from either scumreading each other or Swika, they let the first mission pass, waiting for the second to blame the newcomer as they felt it would be easier than to attack a vastly townread swika, or being forced to scumread each other. Grack now put sharkie in along with superbia, who can still be either town or spy but for simplicity it's always easier to assume only one spy was on a failed team, so it's usually a win win or eat least no loss scenario for spies to have 2 on a team.
  
  
• Only Grack was spy and decided that he would pass the first, and fail the second. Before it failed he 180° his read on me and townread sharkie instead to try and gather support from all the members of the first three player team + RtaniSoul. Mind you, his read switch happened after I was in an argument with sharkie and rtaniSoul so the timing makes sense as he saw an opening on me here. In this case his current team is all town with exception of superbia who is his infiltrate.
  
  
• Only sharkie is spy. Least likely in my opinion cause I don't believe that Gracks read switch on me was genuine and somewhere I mentioned that if he's town it was maybe borderline gamethrowing, but for sure game changing.
  

Gracks scenario is that I made an all town team when I was townread already. Even IF I didn't include myself for cred, what would have stopped me from trying to put in a spy? The worst that could happen was that it got rejected and swika put me into the next team anyways, they were ready to do that. So I'm not the guy pushing tinfoil in this case.

My question to Grack and sharkie now is: If this team failed, who would they think was spy?

On February 11 2017 20:31 Superbia wrote:
Actually is Grack prone to this type of reading as mafia? Like both silverika and sharkie have had a very townie showing.

On February 12 2017 00:40 Vivax wrote:
I was expecting something along the lines of "it has to be superbia", but now you don't even sound sure that sharkie is actually resistance, which is in contrast to basically all your beliefs.

Also noted that you lazily call all arguments against you omgus. There is no rule that says that the first to accuse is more right or more resistance.

Fact of the matter is, you are pushing the notion I nominated an all town team when I knew Swika would include me into the next team.

Fact of the matter also is that RtaniSoul was helping sharkie back when you changed your read, and it wasn't the entire thread attacking him, it was mostly just me.

On February 12 2017 01:09 Vivax wrote:


Who needs to read minds when I can just read posts? I asked active players who they thought should go on a team, oh look:



And you would not let us fuck up each other when you're spy with sharkie, simples. And if he isn't you're trying to portray the first team as all town and get on further missions. Also simple, and already mentioned. You can stop repeating questions now.

On February 12 2017 01:15 Vivax wrote:
You'd be more credible stating I was spy with sharkie, but this? Just lol.

On February 12 2017 06:41 RtaniSoul wrote:

I'm sorry, we've actually read past D1.

On February 12 2017 07:34 sicklucker wrote:


sick 0 votes

On February 12 2017 07:37 RtaniSoul wrote:

Why did you vote against your own team?

On February 12 2017 07:36 RtaniSoul wrote:


if you're town and right we'll send you a sticker post-game?

On February 12 2017 07:40 Vivax wrote:


Since you asked me the question it's only fair you ask him the same question. Why did Grack disapprove his own team?
I can play this game too you know.

On February 12 2017 07:43 Vivax wrote:


You and sharkie are absolutely incapable of reading context.

I was making fun of superbia's reasoning (yes, precisely that reasoning you say I used). If you read some more posts after you will see .

On February 12 2017 07:48 RtaniSoul wrote:

You think sharkie and grack are both spies?

On February 12 2017 07:46 RtaniSoul wrote:


lol yeah we're super set on a team...that's definitely what i would have gotten out of reading our last several posts, too

i mean the fact of the matter is grack, you're already doing a great job getting us to doubt ourselves regardless of what alignment you are...but really i don't think our read is going to ultimately depend on you unless you suddenly start shitting resistance rainbows...we're still trying to work it out @.@

On February 12 2017 07:49 RtaniSoul wrote:

I'm glad we finally have a confession out of you.

On February 12 2017 07:51 RtaniSoul wrote:


lol that means shit all with me ^^ tumble is not exactly the person i turn to in order to solve games >> he's the guy i lynch for making no fucking sense at all lol ><

On February 12 2017 07:53 RtaniSoul wrote:

You didn't make his name big enough.

On February 12 2017 08:08 RtaniSoul wrote:
Like every post Sharkie makes just makes me think he's supertown but then most people don't agree and Grack looks townie from where I'm standing and so do Vivax and Silver but to stronger degrees than Grack and fuuuuuuuuck

On February 12 2017 07:54 sicklucker wrote:
i think the point of whos scum between grack and sharkie is mute anyway. I think we can easily pass all missions without including them if we avoid a sleeper agent

On February 13 2017 23:02 Vivax wrote:
I only want to know what sharkie and Grack will vote on this

On February 14 2017 00:08 Superbia wrote:


Why would Sharkie dislike the team? I thought grack/tw/ec was sharkie's scumteam.

Also from EC's perspective grack or sharkie should be mafia (or silver TINFOILMODE).

On February 14 2017 01:18 Superbia wrote:


I want to know exact reasons.

On February 14 2017 15:08 Silverika wrote:
Grack, every time I think you might be Town and I might be wrong about Vivax, you post something scummy. Saying we are manipulating people's emotions as a spy is about as low as it gets. I don't use RL or emotionally manipulate people as scum. It goes against my ethical and moral beliefs. If I want to win as scum in a game, there's other ways to do it. You don't want to deal with spy reading us, because we might get angry even though earlier you said that would make us resistance? At least try to be consistent. I also apologized earlier for being bitchy this game so I have no idea why you want to start more shit. Drunk or not there's no excuse for it.

On February 14 2017 15:19 Silverika wrote:


No actually it isn't. You don't know a damn thing about how I play do how about you stop being an ass for 5 seconds?

Like, fuck you grack. I don't give a damn how drunk you are just fuck off.

I'm so over this game.