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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
February 10 2017 20:16 GMT
#1581
Keep calm and vote reject is all I say.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 10 2017 20:25 GMT
#1582
Everyone shut up. In the next 25 hours I only want to hear Superbia or people talking to Superbia. This is his moment. If he fucks off we all vote no anyway.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
February 10 2017 20:44 GMT
#1583
On February 11 2017 05:25 RtaniSoul wrote:
Everyone shut up. In the next 25 hours I only want to hear Superbia or people talking to Superbia. This is his moment. If he fucks off we all vote no anyway.

I take it this means that you still think Sharkie is town.

I do really hope that people take the time to evaluate the people on the mission rather than down vote it just because I proposed it.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 10 2017 22:00 GMT
#1584
Mission #3 - Nomination #2


Team Leader Grackaroni has nominated the following team members to participate in Mission #3: Silverika, Rtanisoul, Sharkie, Superbia. Please vote by PM to all hosts with ##approve or ##reject.

Voting phase for this nomination ends on Saturday, Feb 11 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in .
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
February 10 2017 22:20 GMT
#1585
unless you think vivax is scum this team is always a reject. and I do not
good times for all
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 10 2017 22:30 GMT
#1586
you were not even really a scum read of mine untill you posted that team
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 10 2017 22:32 GMT
#1587
you posted a low percentage team to pass like me. but dont include yourself. that makes no sense to me. your less scum read then me for sure
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 10 2017 22:34 GMT
#1588
at this point im probably going to just no vote everything to let artanis pick the team and try to yolo win. I hope you pick me but thats your decision. who even picks the next teams
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 10 2017 22:35 GMT
#1589
and yes i know im going against what I said of not pre voting but everyones fucking doing it every vote so trying is pointless and this is an obvious no vote for most people in the game unless people do some serious convincing which im open to being swayed.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 10 2017 22:36 GMT
#1590
its super and sharkie that choose next. yep I think we should we should give art/rstou the yolo hammer . even if sharkie is town I dont like his reads
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 10 2017 22:40 GMT
#1591
On February 11 2017 05:25 RtaniSoul wrote:
Everyone shut up. In the next 25 hours I only want to hear Superbia or people talking to Superbia. This is his moment. If he fucks off we all vote no anyway.

RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 10 2017 22:41 GMT
#1592
It should not be hard to see why this is the optimal thing to do.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
February 10 2017 23:27 GMT
#1593
On February 11 2017 07:32 sicklucker wrote:
you posted a low percentage team to pass like me. but dont include yourself. that makes no sense to me. your less scum read then me for sure

You realize that your mission got 0 votes.

And yet my mission is the one that doesn't make sense...

I'm mostly taking into consideration the people that I think are town.

I know that Rtanisoul/Sharkie will both consider the mission. Not sure about Silver/Super.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
February 11 2017 00:19 GMT
#1594
^
I'm being grumpy.

I don't think there was much chance of a mission with me on it getting votes.
Silverika
Profile Joined January 2017
United States231 Posts
February 11 2017 04:18 GMT
#1595
The only person on this team I'm unsure of is Superbia. I've been lax on digging into them but the fact he hasn't been here is a big concern of mine. He hasn't posted anything in days. That bothers me a great deal. If grack is scum, then he's putting a scum teamate on here and doesn't care if he is on it or not then. If he's town, he's trying to get what he feels is an all town team through. Him leaving Vivax off would make sense in that scenario.I want to hear from Superbia. If they don't show up, well then I guess that answers my question as I don't see much town motivation for avoiding the thread for this long.

~SW
Hydra of ika42 and SilverWolf77
Silverika
Profile Joined January 2017
United States231 Posts
February 11 2017 04:20 GMT
#1596
[B]On February 11 2017 04:10 Grackaroni wrote:

I also think Vivax's reaction to me accusing him was very scummy, where he immediately tried to discredit me by looking for any contradiction he could find in my filter.


Isn't that exactly what you did to us?

~SW
Hydra of ika42 and SilverWolf77
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
February 11 2017 04:44 GMT
#1597
On February 11 2017 13:20 Silverika wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2017 04:10 Grackaroni wrote:

I also think Vivax's reaction to me accusing him was very scummy, where he immediately tried to discredit me by looking for any contradiction he could find in my filter.


Isn't that exactly what you did to us?

~SW

No because that was egregious and I was already shaky on you.

Like you were recognizing that sharkie was looking townier while telling everybody that they should scum read me for changing my read on him, which was something you were also doing because he was looking townier!

Vivax was hard town reading me until I suggested that he was the scum in the team. Then he flipped a switch and immediately focused on trying to discredit me rather than trying to question/understand me. And I really didn't like the responses. Like you can see that when I accused you and when I get accused there is more of an emotional response. His was more of a rushed "I need to look good in this argument" response.
On February 08 2017 00:50 Vivax wrote:
Earlier:

On February 07 2017 03:13 Grackaroni wrote:

Vivax is actually coming up with a lot of thought out scum pairings without trying too hard to be town read. Plus he said right off the bat that Silver/I aren't scum, which is a good thing from my perspective.



Now:

Vivax just keeps arguing that Silver/I aren't mafia based off WIFOM instead of analyzing posts and is ignoring sharkie making townie posts. I kind of think he just wants to take the opposing position of the other spy because he is basing his read on Silver/I on such weak reasoning while arguing that we need to ignore vote logic because it's WIFOM.


My, my, Grack. Just when you had earned my favour ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[B]On February 08 2017 00:53 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2017 00:51 Grackaroni wrote:
On February 08 2017 00:50 Vivax wrote:
Earlier:

On February 07 2017 03:13 Grackaroni wrote:

Vivax is actually coming up with a lot of thought out scum pairings without trying too hard to be town read. Plus he said right off the bat that Silver/I aren't scum, which is a good thing from my perspective.



Now:

Vivax just keeps arguing that Silver/I aren't mafia based off WIFOM instead of analyzing posts and is ignoring sharkie making townie posts. I kind of think he just wants to take the opposing position of the other spy because he is basing his read on Silver/I on such weak reasoning while arguing that we need to ignore vote logic because it's WIFOM.


My, my, Grack. Just when you had earned my favour ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I liked that when I thought the spy was likely to be sharkie.

Now I think the spy is quite unlikely to be sharkie.


Even then the same argument shouldn't lead to different conclusions for you.

Unless you use it just to make up reads when they suit the moment ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
February 11 2017 04:47 GMT
#1598
Also, I have to say on my behalf, when I'm scum I usually play things pretty safe.

I very rarely make an argument that I think most people are going to dislike.

Telling everybody that the scum team is Artanisoul & Vivax, with little evidence, when many people are town reading both of them is very unlikely to come from me as scum.
Silverika
Profile Joined January 2017
United States231 Posts
February 11 2017 05:01 GMT
#1599
Do you still think they are a pairing? If so, why put Artanisoul on the team?

~SW
Hydra of ika42 and SilverWolf77
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
February 11 2017 05:12 GMT
#1600
On February 11 2017 14:01 Silverika wrote:
Do you still think they are a pairing? If so, why put Artanisoul on the team?

~SW

No I changed my mind on Artisoul. I don't think they would be this active as scum. Right now my best guess for the mafia is Vivax + 2 not-so-townie players (EC/SL/TW/(Super)), which is an idea that I picked up from Sharkie's filter.

Before I was thinking that Vivax wouldn't propose a team with no scum if it wasn't a sure bet that scum would be on the next one (Artisoul/Vivax would be the leading candidates for setting up the original team.) Right now something like Vivax/EC/TW scum not wanting to risk a failed mission passing to Silverika is my best guess for what happened.

+ Show Spoiler +

On February 09 2017 08:05 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2017 08:03 RtaniSoul wrote:
On February 09 2017 07:59 Grackaroni wrote:
And I still don't quite get the distinction.

There are plenty of people (you) saying that Vivax wouldn't have chosen not to put himself on the mission as scum. So there isn't much reason to treat the two "unlikely for scum to do" things differently.

180ing on a read is something different than letting town decide on the fate of several missions. As for passing the first mission, that's fairly normal. Scum tends to pass the first mission; it's the fact that Sharkie was contested that people believe it's a valid argument to make. The reasons for the actions you'd have taken as a spy are more clear than Vivax, and I don't see Vivax as a flashy scum player. Especially the threatening to put us on the mission instead of Sharkie seems like something that doesn't click with me on that.

Do you still believe we're mafia?

Not particularly.

On February 11 2017 04:10 Grackaroni wrote:
##Nominate: Silverika, Rtanisoul, Sharkie, Superbia

Obviously I didn't add myself because I'm currently the #1 spy read.

I spent about an hour reading through both Sharkie's and Vivax's filters. I think that Sharkie is a lot less likely to be scum because his filter is much more passionate and shows more emotion. It doesn't read like a first time forum scum player's filter

I pretty much have to conclude that it's Sharkie's Vivax carry + two shitty scum players theory. Yes, it's bold to not add yourself and instead propose an all town team, but it makes more sense to me than sharkie scum. Vivax probably overestimated (or actually maybe correctly estimated) the amount of shit that he would have gotten by adding himself to a team after everything that he had said earlier in the game.

I chose Superbia because Vivax was debating between Superbia and Sharkie for his nomination and I think if he could have added a scum to the team he would have.

I also think Vivax's reaction to me accusing him was very scummy, where he immediately tried to discredit me by looking for any contradiction he could find in my filter.

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