I'm sorry that I was rude.

I've been getting annoyed at everyone agreeing on me being mafia for reasons that I don't like. And I had a bunch of things I needed to get done today that I failed miserably because I spent my time getting angry on TL instead T_T.

RtaniSoul

552 Posts

February 09 2017 20:26 GMT

#1563

Vivax' filter in Haunted is not reassuring me. Tonewise, there's a similar range of emotions and his activity was actually higher there than it has been here. The matter of the first mission really not making sense for a scum vivax still stands though, and that's one thing I haven't seen in his scum games: Flashiness. The marv vote (context for people who don't know marv: legendary player on TL famous for basically being unlynchable and solving games as town) was actually after 4 people had already voted him. His play followed a formulaic style where he went along with the flow of the game, something he certainly hasn't done here. I still find it difficult to imagine a Vivax spy without one of Grack/Silver/Sharkie also being a spy due to the first mission.

RtaniSoul

552 Posts

February 09 2017 20:27 GMT

#1564

tl;dr underestimated Vivax' scumgame but mission 1 makes it irrelevant for now

Also time to play heroes. Will be busy tomorrow mostly. Also also still want a scumgame from you grack.

Grackaroni

United States9856 Posts

February 09 2017 20:29 GMT

#1565

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/511784-who-needs-72-hours-anyway?user=Grackaroni&page=1

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

February 09 2017 20:53 GMT

#1566

On February 10 2017 02:26 Tumblewood wrote:
sl has 0 analysis on players beyond x is bad, dumb, emotional, etc idk how anything about his tone + Show Spoiler +

which is basically the same no matter what

makes him townie with that

what yes i do. you just said a read I gave already. "vivax has never mantained this activity as scum" I literraly said that a few pages ago. I have said plenty of good things this game, people have just choose not to listen from early pretexts probably much incuraged by fucking scum

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

February 09 2017 20:54 GMT

#1567

which in turn makes me not try very hard because whats the point?

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

February 09 2017 20:56 GMT

#1568

On February 10 2017 04:53 Silverika wrote:

Show nested quote +

Well let's see:

First silver has basicly been shit on by sevral players
Second we gave the scum games and then they don't get read
Third, both me and silver have no tolatance anymore we expected this game to maybe be a week or two not a god damn month
Fourth, nobody has really been trying to narrow anything down and instead turns into this piss fight on how one must play
Faith, both me and silver are fucking tired. I'm working overnights and silver is still dealing with radiation for her cancer so we have like no tolarance anymore

I havent even noticed your different people tbh and im sure you think im out to shit on her. your super paranoid and defensive I know I had nothing against you and you went rambo on me

Rels

France13467 Posts

February 09 2017 22:00 GMT

#1569

The team consisting of RtaniSoul, sicklucker, Silverika, Vivax has been rejected.

Votes for: none.
Votes against: emperorchampion, Grackaroni, RtaniSoul, sharkie, sicklucker, Silverika, Superbia, Tumblewood, Vivax.

Team Leader Grackaroni will now make Attempt #2 to nominate a team for Mission #3. The nomination will be locked Friday, Feb 10 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), in .

sharkie

Austria18636 Posts

February 09 2017 22:04 GMT

#1570

Now that was a great waste of time, SL...
Why did even you vote no?

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

February 10 2017 00:01 GMT

#1571

it was not gonna pass unless scum wanted it too. was a win win for them

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

February 10 2017 00:02 GMT

#1572

i just want an all town team for post game cred. screw u all

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

February 10 2017 00:02 GMT

#1573

playing solo resistance

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

February 10 2017 00:04 GMT

#1574

im really annoyed at my town reads who also town read me sort of. that basicly prevoted and said well "this is a good team but w/e it wont pass and I can do better"

at least fucking keep it open for vote logic geeze. literraly everyone who might have voted yes here said they were voting no

sharkie

Austria18636 Posts

February 10 2017 07:38 GMT

#1575

Also vivax this team was full resistance for you - why did you vote nay?

Vivax

22317 Posts

February 10 2017 09:55 GMT

#1576

For time, and cause I didn't have faith that it would pass:

On February 08 2017 14:27 Vivax wrote:

Show nested quote +

You do realize this will never pass, and not just cause of me.

with 1/1 score I don't mind going back to a war of attrition and with RtaniSoul being the last team leader, it's up to the spies to hurry to get a team through

Silverika

United States231 Posts

February 10 2017 14:29 GMT

#1577

First, sorry for being so bitchy this game.

Second, I don't know what to think of grack being the team leader. He's a spy only by PoE because some things he says make me think I could be wrong.

I'm gonna be busy today so I don't know how much I'll be on.

~SW

Grackaroni

United States9856 Posts

February 10 2017 19:10 GMT

#1578

##Nominate: Silverika, Rtanisoul, Sharkie, Superbia

Obviously I didn't add myself because I'm currently the #1 spy read.

I spent about an hour reading through both Sharkie's and Vivax's filters. I think that Sharkie is a lot less likely to be scum because his filter is much more passionate and shows more emotion. It doesn't read like a first time forum scum player's filter

I pretty much have to conclude that it's Sharkie's Vivax carry + two shitty scum players theory. Yes, it's bold to not add yourself and instead propose an all town team, but it makes more sense to me than sharkie scum. Vivax probably overestimated (or actually maybe correctly estimated) the amount of shit that he would have gotten by adding himself to a team after everything that he had said earlier in the game.

I chose Superbia because Vivax was debating between Superbia and Sharkie for his nomination and I think he could have added a scum to the team he would have.

I also think Vivax's reaction to me accusing him was very scummy, where he immediately tried to discredit me by looking for any contradiction he could find in my filter.

Grackaroni

United States9856 Posts

February 10 2017 19:14 GMT

#1579

Actually I'm curious as a question for everyone in the thread.

If Vivax had added himself to the 3 person mission instead of Sharkie, would you have accepted?

Grackaroni

United States9856 Posts

February 10 2017 19:18 GMT

#1580

If not then Vivax would have been relying on Silverika not choosing an all town team, which would have been pretty unlikely if my current team is all town.

In this case it's a lot better to nominate an all town team and use that for cred to get on the next mission than to hope that Silverika doesn't choose an all town team and fight to get on the next mission.