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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 23:23 GMT
#1681
90% sure hf is the scum now
Try TL Mafia!!!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 23:29 GMT
#1682
On January 23 2017 08:20 Onegu wrote:
I got it. I just fucking figured it out.

If HF is town makes the CC to get shot. Why doesnt he leave his reads before deadline. He kept saying last night he was going to make some big post with his reads and why he played the game like he did. Then fake CC and doesnt give his reads?

So town HF makes a play to get shot and then doesnt give his reads? NEVER NEVER NEVER


I've never left a read post in any of my games in existence. I was also planning on fake claiming cop, as I said. That's why I kept saying "the game is over, don't worry, I'll make a post". But then you fake claimed and I couldn't be bothered so I fake ccd instead because I'm lazy.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 23:30 GMT
#1683
I'll gladly vote myself if you can find me leaving a read post as town. (hint, you can't)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 23:32 GMT
#1684
In fact I've fake claimed blue and been shot n1 in a lot of games and never left reads there either.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 23:35 GMT
#1685
On December 11 2016 07:09 Holyflare wrote:
Also, just for the record, onegu would absolutely policy vote me and afk as both alignments and sl's "throwaway" style is bull shit for survival because like I said he does what he wants as any alignment and doesn't care about his team but rather himself.

Maybe read other games before making random sweeping comments next time.


I was so wise in gif mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 23:39 GMT
#1686
On December 12 2016 21:40 Holyflare wrote:
I also find it in onegu's favour that I have basically given up the game/playing and he's trying to figure it out rather than auto vote me


Also last lylo we played in (gif mafia). No figuring out im this game at all from onegu, just auto vote because of policy and then try and make up reasons now bm is back.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 23:43 GMT
#1687
BM I don't wanna waste your time here. I understand if you're paranoid and I can make a list of reasons why onegu is mafia and I'm town till I'm blue in the face but at the end of the day you've just got to go with your gut and yolo. No hard feelings either way. I won't be around much tomorrow.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 23:44 GMT
#1688
On January 23 2017 08:30 Holyflare wrote:
I'll gladly vote myself if you can find me leaving a read post as town. (hint, you can't)



Ok you dont make list posts I just went and looked but you do make reads during the night which you didnt do last night.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 23:44 GMT
#1689
On January 23 2017 08:39 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2016 21:40 Holyflare wrote:
I also find it in onegu's favour that I have basically given up the game/playing and he's trying to figure it out rather than auto vote me


Also last lylo we played in (gif mafia). No figuring out im this game at all from onegu, just auto vote because of policy and then try and make up reasons now bm is back.



It wasnt policy go look at my first posts from this day. I said you were scum. Then I said why I wouldnt unvote you was for the MVP thing.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 23:45 GMT
#1690
On January 23 2017 08:43 Holyflare wrote:
BM I don't wanna waste your time here. I understand if you're paranoid and I can make a list of reasons why onegu is mafia and I'm town till I'm blue in the face but at the end of the day you've just got to go with your gut and yolo. No hard feelings either way. I won't be around much tomorrow.



Yeah I wont be around either. I wont be here for deadline. Up to you BM.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 23:46 GMT
#1691
On January 23 2017 08:44 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2017 08:30 Holyflare wrote:
I'll gladly vote myself if you can find me leaving a read post as town. (hint, you can't)



Ok you dont make list posts I just went and looked but you do make reads during the night which you didnt do last night.


I couldn't be bothered. I was going to make the game easy by getting out of it and fake claiming cop. Deal with it sucker.

Any more reasons you wanna magic out of thin air?
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 23:47 GMT
#1692
On January 23 2017 08:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2017 08:44 Onegu wrote:
On January 23 2017 08:30 Holyflare wrote:
I'll gladly vote myself if you can find me leaving a read post as town. (hint, you can't)



Ok you dont make list posts I just went and looked but you do make reads during the night which you didnt do last night.


I couldn't be bothered. I was going to make the game easy by getting out of it and fake claiming cop. Deal with it sucker.

Any more reasons you wanna magic out of thin air?



not out of thin air... I am sure you dont make that play as town.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 23 2017 00:59 GMT
#1693
On January 23 2017 08:44 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2017 08:30 Holyflare wrote:
I'll gladly vote myself if you can find me leaving a read post as town. (hint, you can't)



Ok you dont make list posts I just went and looked but you do make reads during the night which you didnt do last night.

OK well I feel like you're being genuine so if I'm wrong srry town
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 23 2017 01:49 GMT
#1694
Well whatever, information is in the thread if you feel like changing your mind.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 23 2017 01:55 GMT
#1695
Can bm be mafia? :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 23 2017 01:59 GMT
#1696
Nah doesn't matter.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 23 2017 02:00 GMT
#1697
I'm sad we were buddies and you backstabbed me though D:
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 23 2017 02:06 GMT
#1698
Don't really know what else I can say? Help.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 23 2017 02:31 GMT
#1699
I'm literally 28% of the threads posts and posted more times at the end of n1 than my last few mafia games combined. Yes, onegu will argue I'm capable of that but that's not true anymore. I find it hard to produce that many pages of actual scum hunting while working now.

My day 1 was incredibly towny. I made good posts of actual scum hunting and narrowed down the game to a pool of 3 or 4 and had town reads all while being semi tilted at getting scum read.

The thing that onegu knows confirms me as town and has even agreed makes me town is that I left hapa alive and lynched ls instead even though hapa scum read me and is an amazing town player and ls is an easy lynch later in the game. Onegu even posts this as a reason to town read me day 2 (but he refuses to town read me!! He hasn't taken a stance on me all game but has blindly martyrd for me and sheeped me).

The night kills are all wrong for me. I left hapa and vivax alive, 2 amazing townies that both scum read me. Then last night when vivax finally starts town reading me I kill him and leave the guy that said he'd vote me no matter what and afk? No, that's not how I work.

Day 2 I was pushing slam but then I did drop the ball and go after hapa because I thought I had something legitimate. But let it be known that I did question slam! I was also hesitant to lynch damdred all game despite him also being basically a free mislynch if I needed it. I saw towny things in him and wanted to give him more time.

I have never in my life fake claimed as mafia or fake ccd amd onegu knows this. We had a discussion in our last mafia game on this exact same subject about how i only make sensible mafia kills and never fake claim. I even quoted it in this game and he dodged around that subject and made up a reason to scum read me (that i didn't make a list post). This was also found to be a lie.




Onegu's day 1 interaction with slam reeks of forced interaction. After it's over they never interact the entire game again. It doesn't make sense and was most likely a distancing ploy.

Onegu then did catch up posts that were empty and unlike his town game because they said nothing.

Hapa constantly called out onegu to give a read on me but he refused and said he wouldn't until late game. In that same cycle when the deadline came onegu was HARD defending me but didn't actually have a town read on me. At one point he even went so far as to martyr.

I called him out on the above and so did rels and rels got shot (you ask why not me? I was scum read by two now confirmed town and possibly an easy mislynch. Also medic dodging). Rels was not a likely kill with me, hapa and vivax alive. The fact one of us three didn't die n1 screams of mafia trying to get us to perpetute our fight since we were at each other's throats.

On the next day after onegu had made alll those weird martyr posts for me he still says he doesn't actually have a read on me despite:

Sheeping me off slam onto hapa
Saying I'm not mafia because I'm not pushing easy mislynches.

This is ridiculous because even though he says all these things that definitely make me town he STILL does not read me an alignment but sheeps me too! It was a perfect opportunity for him to not vote slam and keep his options open for me later.

His fake claim is mafia because either the real person ccs him and he kills them and unclaims for no harm or he gets away with a free claim in lylo and wins. Me fake claiming put a dampener in his plans completely. You can see by his reaction when I fake claimed that he legitimately called me town about three times. Then when I unclaimed he called me mafia because he realised he could use it to push my mislynch.

Onegu ignores real evidence that I never do any of these things as mafia in 20 games of playing as mafia but still pushes that he doesn't care what alignment I am. It's quite clear that I'm town to a town onegu but he refuses to acknowledge it.

Onegu has 0 game based reasons to call me mafia and knows I'm town. He made up this points thing as a last resort and has appealed to your emotions repeatedly. He is using his populism approach to Trump this game to victory rather than working in the real world of facts where he'd just lose instantly. His alternative facts are lies used to throw shit at me and make me look bad to you when in fact they are provably not true.

I hope this rant was enough to change your mind but if not then i totally understand. 20 mafia games is a good sample size to get to know how I play as mafia. Hopefully you can read some and tell the difference. The fact I've done things I haven't ever done as mafia should be quite conclusive but if it's not then the myriad of evidence should be.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 23 2017 02:32 GMT
#1700
Fuck writing that on my phone. Bunch of effort.
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