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Onegu
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On January 23 2017 07:49 Bill Murray wrote: Why shouldnt i vote someone who is appealing to statistics? You talk about " points " like I care . The only thing I care about is a Win vs a loss No I think the point of this game since it is a qualifier is to get points or MVP not necessarily win if you want to go to the next round, winning is a good cherry on top though. I want to go to the next round. Therefore making the play that would get me the most points or MVP is the correct play for me. I currently am around 75% scum on HF. But even if I was only 10% on HF being scum I would still vote him as it is the play that has the most +EV to get me to the next round. | ||
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Onegu
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On January 23 2017 07:53 Bill Murray wrote: With you all both claiming healer I could just park my vote and AFK even if you all both unclaimed or one unclaimed or whatever I don't really care it makes you all have had a cc... thing is I'm VT so I'm confused who is mafia and who is my teammate Then you have to ask yourself which one makes more sense. My fake claim or HF counter Fake claim. My claim makes sense from a town point of view wanting points. HF counter claim doesnt make much sense coming from town. If he is town and gets shot he takes himself out of lylo. | ||
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Holyflare
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He's said he's keeping his vote on me for points but then during points he tries to appeal to you multiple times as if it's a scum read. It doesn't make sense. There's a lot of things I've done this game that incredibly make me town and onegu knows this (i mentioned it in the last page) but he's insistent on not even going over it. The rels kill n1 was increasingly likely a combination of medic dodge and because rels started to scum read onegu. Onegu has fought for my life multiple times in this game but never actually town read me. His reason was simply that he's better at reading me later. Now that excuse has finally ended it has become no real read and he's doing it for points. His fake claim leaving lots of time before deadline looks increasingly like a medic bait into him carrying as "confirmed" if nobody ccd. He was forced to drop it because i fake ccd but no doubt in my mind he continues it if i didn't. | ||
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Onegu
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On January 23 2017 07:58 Bill Murray wrote: You're saying if I'm scum you'd vote hf anyways and I'm arguing with you what does that tell you yes I am saying even if I was 90% sure you were scum I would still vote HF and try to get you to vote with me on the 10% chance that he was scum. | ||
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Onegu
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On January 23 2017 07:59 Holyflare wrote: I am also here. You should be able to get a clear picture from the last few pages that onegu is voting me out of necessity and not because he actually mafia reads me. He's said he's keeping his vote on me for points but then during points he tries to appeal to you multiple times as if it's a scum read. It doesn't make sense. There's a lot of things I've done this game that incredibly make me town and onegu knows this (i mentioned it in the last page) but he's insistent on not even going over it. The rels kill n1 was increasingly likely a combination of medic dodge and because rels started to scum read onegu. Onegu has fought for my life multiple times in this game but never actually town read me. His reason was simply that he's better at reading me later. Now that excuse has finally ended it has become no real read and he's doing it for points. His fake claim leaving lots of time before deadline looks increasingly like a medic bait into him carrying as "confirmed" if nobody ccd. He was forced to drop it because i fake ccd but no doubt in my mind he continues it if i didn't. If I was scum why is it necessary for me to vote you? It isnt. All day I have said you are scum. I give you 75%. My point is I wouldnt vote BM even if I thought he was scum. I am scum reading you. I gave reasons they are in my filter. No I am town and would have unclaimed at deadline. | ||
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Holyflare
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 Thank you for literally doing the work for me. | ||
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Onegu
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On January 23 2017 08:03 Holyflare wrote: And that, ladies and gentleman, is why onegu is mafia. His play is so subpar that he can't even make up reasons to mafia read me Thank you for literally doing the work for me. Read my filter they are there. You are just ignoring them. You dont fake CC as town. You just dont. | ||
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Holyflare
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You reference multiple times that you have a reason to scum read me. Link them and I'll demolish them. If they're purely about the cc it's a totally good play to stop you fake claiming your way to victory as mafia too. | ||
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Bill Murray
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On January 23 2017 08:00 Onegu wrote: yes I am saying even if I was 90% sure you were scum I would still vote HF and try to get you to vote with me on the 10% chance that he was scum. What does this tell you about me? | ||
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Bill Murray
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On January 23 2017 08:05 Holyflare wrote: Bm is sitting here asking for reasons to vote one or the other. Your reason is you want points regardless as if to psyche him out that you'd only make this play as town because your content just simply doesn't exist. You reference multiple times that you have a reason to scum read me. Link them and I'll demolish them. If they're purely about the cc it's a totally good play to stop you fake claiming your way to victory as mafia too. Yes do this | ||
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Holyflare
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On January 23 2017 05:07 Holyflare wrote: We had the entire conversation as how my mafia play is entirely conservative (with a lot of yelling, yes) but I don't ever stick my neck out, I don't make suboptimal plays like shooting LS at night in that game and I don't fake claim or fake cc ever. Mahrgell was pushing that me fake claiming blue night 1 was a mafia strategy and I point out that I've NEVER fake claimed as mafia and he got wrecked. Now suddenly I make suboptimal plays as mafia by lynching LS instead of hapa, fake ccing, being tunneled as fuck but easily dropping stuff for no reasons. yet you have no recollection of that game conversation? | ||
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Bill Murray
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On January 23 2017 08:04 Onegu wrote: Read my filter they are there. You are just ignoring them. You dont fake CC as town. You just dont. Why not? I've done it | ||
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