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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 14:57 GMT
#1601
On January 22 2017 23:53 Holyflare wrote:
Why does vivax's death make bm mafia?



Vivax last post was that BM was Mafia.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 14:58 GMT
#1602
On January 22 2017 23:53 Holyflare wrote:
Also fuck you for not letting me leave.


<3
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 15:02 GMT
#1603
Well I suggest if you're town then bm is literally confirmed mafia and you should run with what you have.

Honestly I'm tired of fighting and I'm just going to afk my vote on you because I simply don't believe town onegu doesn't town read me after the lynches and how they went down and my super suboptimal play of keeping everyone that scum reads me alive forever to just scum read them back. A+ mafia strategy.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 22 2017 17:14 GMT
#1604
Vote Count

Holyflare (2) : Bill Murray, Onegu
Onegu (1) : Holyflare

Not voting (0) :

Currently, Holyflare is set to be lynched!
The day phase will end at Monday, Jan 23 5:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00).
remain as you are reading this.

Remember, voting is mandatory!

with 3 alive it takes 2 to lynch

If you see any vote out of place, let us know!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 18:27 GMT
#1605
On January 22 2017 02:29 Onegu wrote:
Posting this right before deadline in case fucking scum are dumb and still believed me.

HF if you are the actual medic you are a fucking dumbass for claiming when you did and not right before deadline. You didnt think things through. If I am scum it doesnt matter you claim right before incase you arent shot. And if I am vt (which I am) I get killed and you are alive for mylo as I am guessing I get killed as can scum really chance that I am not saving you? Now you condemned yourself if you are the medic. No reason to not let it play out. I was going to unclaim right before deadline. You just let it play out. No reason to not let it play out. Fuck me HF, you gave us the loss not me. You can bitch that I fake claimed as town all you want but there was a 50% chance this was all VT and scum have to believe the claim, and there was no reason for you to cc when you did. It wasnt needed. And now you give us the loss 75% your fault 25% my fault. Really thought you were better than this...


I'm pretty sure this is you slipping I'm town in fact. You even put things like "if you are the medic" because you know I fake claim a lot. Then you realise that you fucked up and tried to backtrack to me being mafia.

You then say the loss is on me. All of this after saying you didn't have a read on me.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 19:41 GMT
#1606
Sigh HF you are pulling at strings. I am VT. And the loss thing was I fake claimed. I got CC. You die you dont think I get lynched followed up after that? That was my thought process.

And I wasnt thinking about you always fake claim. I was talking about it happens. The last game I was in it occurred. And I know sometimes town do it even though doing a fake CC is so bad. Doing a regular fake claim is one thing doing a fake CC is another and I really think you are a better player than that.

Really I think you would know better then as town to do a fake CC. A fake claim sure. But a fake CC? No I really think you though I was the medic, made the CC and then planned to lynch me today. Is it possible you did it as town? Sure. But really dont think that is a play you make as town.

Also I would have killed you if I was scum. I wont chance going into lylo with you. If anyone here shoots the stronger player as scum it is me.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 19:44 GMT
#1607
@ BM really all you have to think about is this.

Does VT HF make a fake CC as town to get shot and not put himself in lylo?

Occams razor is he is scum. Made a CC to go head to head with me and thought he could get me lynched with claim vs claim.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 19:48 GMT
#1608
vivax was basically confirmed town why are you trying to say you'd shoot anyone but vivax???

please link me a game where someone claims a couple of hours before deadline at lylo when there is no need to and is ever shot because I have never in my life seen that happen, it's the most obvious fake claim in existence

the last time somebody fake claimed hours before deadline was sicklucker because he was mafia

let's look at it from this perspective, before you fake cc'd who did you think was mafia?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 19:50 GMT
#1609
On January 23 2017 04:44 Onegu wrote:
@ BM really all you have to think about is this.

Does VT HF make a fake CC as town to get shot and not put himself in lylo?

Occams razor is he is scum. Made a CC to go head to head with me and thought he could get me lynched with claim vs claim.


???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

"go head to head"
"onegu rescinds claim"

that's a free fucking win right there if I just keep claiming I'm the medic
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 19:51 GMT
#1610
bm town read me, you voted with me and have been sheeping me all game and town reading me, vivax town read me

what's my plan ccing there?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 19:52 GMT
#1611
On January 23 2017 04:51 Holyflare wrote:
bm town read me, you voted with me and have been sheeping me all game and town reading me, vivax town read me

what's my plan ccing there?


not even true actually you've nothing read me and somehow you saying that you want to win the mvp and have no idea what alignment I am has turned into you throwing suspicions and scum reads in my direction non-stop.

so really, what you are doing is making a decision on my alignment and THEN attributing my posts as a narrative to fit that alignment instead of genuinely thinking things through and summing things up

that's what mafia does
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 19:54 GMT
#1612
and you're talking to bm all throughout like he's confirmed town without looking at his posts or doing any digging or reading, despite following me all game and appealing to his emotions to continue voting me

because you're mafia and have no actual points
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 19:55 GMT
#1613
I am actually going to fight this because now I feel like I NEED to stop onegu winning as mafia with this play.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 19:57 GMT
#1614
Onegu, you need to prove to BM that I do this fake claim as mafia by outlining where in my history of mafia games that I have fake claimed or fake cc'd anything. I guarantee you will find 0 because I do not stick my neck out as mafia like that and make things hazy in the balance. I play a solid game and just win it through yelling.

Fake ccing and fake claiming is my staple town play and you know it onegu. Literally the last lylo we played together we had this EXACTTTTTTTT same conversation and it was so blatantly obviously attributed to my town play.

Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 19:59 GMT
#1615
On January 23 2017 04:48 Holyflare wrote:
vivax was basically confirmed town why are you trying to say you'd shoot anyone but vivax???

please link me a game where someone claims a couple of hours before deadline at lylo when there is no need to and is ever shot because I have never in my life seen that happen, it's the most obvious fake claim in existence

the last time somebody fake claimed hours before deadline was sicklucker because he was mafia

let's look at it from this perspective, before you fake cc'd who did you think was mafia?



It wasnt hours. It was 45 minutes. And I was leaning toward BM being mafia during the night. And as mafia I dont care if people are confirmed town (which vivax looked town but was in no way confirmed) if I think they are already thinking wrong and I can get them to lynch the wrong person. I will always kill the better player as mafia.

Also not the most obvious fake claim. IIRC sicklucker was getting scum read hard when he did it as mafia. I had almost no pressure on me. Vivax was on BM and I have no idea where your head was. Plus I am onegu I am capable of doing that as actual medic.

Look if I am medic. I can wifom who I am saving if they dont want to shoot me, and almost always they have to shoot me on the chance I am the medic. I dont think it was a obvious fake claim. I know I am always a question mark. If I can make scum waste a shot on a question mark even if I am the medic here is a win. Because even if I make a save it is still lylo with 4 players not 3. It is still lylo because the medic cannot save himself or the same person so its still game over if town is lynched.

Me trying to get shot before lylo makes sense, also is a play that I think would give me good points. You trying to get shot doesnt make sense. You are the best player in this game.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 20:03 GMT
#1616
On January 23 2017 04:57 Holyflare wrote:
Onegu, you need to prove to BM that I do this fake claim as mafia by outlining where in my history of mafia games that I have fake claimed or fake cc'd anything. I guarantee you will find 0 because I do not stick my neck out as mafia like that and make things hazy in the balance. I play a solid game and just win it through yelling.

Fake ccing and fake claiming is my staple town play and you know it onegu. Literally the last lylo we played together we had this EXACTTTTTTTT same conversation and it was so blatantly obviously attributed to my town play.




you didnt fake claim or fake cc in GIF. What game are you talking about?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 20:04 GMT
#1617
On January 23 2017 04:57 Holyflare wrote:
Onegu, you need to prove to BM that I do this fake claim as mafia by outlining where in my history of mafia games that I have fake claimed or fake cc'd anything. I guarantee you will find 0 because I do not stick my neck out as mafia like that and make things hazy in the balance. I play a solid game and just win it through yelling.

Fake ccing and fake claiming is my staple town play and you know it onegu. Literally the last lylo we played together we had this EXACTTTTTTTT same conversation and it was so blatantly obviously attributed to my town play.




You are doing alot of yelling this game...
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 20:04 GMT
#1618
Why would you want the person that you have no idea what his alignment is and you keep regarding super highly as mafia be in lylo rather than yourself?

My reason is that I fucking hate this game and the perpetually afk people. What's yours?
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 20:06 GMT
#1619
I will say something its really fucking weird that BM is just letting me and you go back and forth and not saying anything here...

Not weird enough for me to unvote you but weird.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 20:07 GMT
#1620
On January 23 2017 05:03 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2017 04:57 Holyflare wrote:
Onegu, you need to prove to BM that I do this fake claim as mafia by outlining where in my history of mafia games that I have fake claimed or fake cc'd anything. I guarantee you will find 0 because I do not stick my neck out as mafia like that and make things hazy in the balance. I play a solid game and just win it through yelling.

Fake ccing and fake claiming is my staple town play and you know it onegu. Literally the last lylo we played together we had this EXACTTTTTTTT same conversation and it was so blatantly obviously attributed to my town play.




you didnt fake claim or fake cc in GIF. What game are you talking about?


We had the entire conversation as how my mafia play is entirely conservative (with a lot of yelling, yes) but I don't ever stick my neck out, I don't make suboptimal plays like shooting LS at night in that game and I don't fake claim or fake cc ever. Mahrgell was pushing that me fake claiming blue night 1 was a mafia strategy and I point out that I've NEVER fake claimed as mafia and he got wrecked.

Now suddenly I make suboptimal plays as mafia by lynching LS instead of hapa, fake ccing, being tunneled as fuck but easily dropping stuff for no reasons.

yet you have no recollection of that game conversation?
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