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I dont think I will unvote HF though. Even though my brain hurts right now.
Here is why I dont think I will unvote HF.
He doesnt pass the smell test.
But the bigger reason, I want the belt. I want the MVP. Lynching BM and him flipping scum doesnt give me the MVP. I may not even get second in that case. But lynching scum HF here I get mvp 100%.
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On January 22 2017 18:59 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2017 13:30 Bill Murray wrote: basically whoever is town needs me to vote with them onegu is voting you im gonna vote him because i can see him being a doctor/medic You realise he said he was fake claiming and claimed vt at the start of the game right lol? Are you trying to dumb tell yourself as confirmed? :D
I claim VT at the start of every game that doesnt mean shit...
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Ok here's why I'm town:
1. I did actual scum hunting the entire game looking for inconsistencies and evaluated them at each point.
2. I was super into lynching damdred for his mistake but was extremely quick to back off it when I saw that it could have been just a mistake.
3. I went after hapa, one of the best town players on this site, day 1 and when it came to lynch time I commandeered my own lynch to lynch something that made perfect sense to me (ls being mafia) instead of just lynching the good player who was mafia reading me.
4. I spent the entirety of the night trying to figure out the game and have a conversation with vivax and hapa while pointing out things I didn't like from everyone.
5. The thread was dead and I've spent all game trying to resurrect it and get you guys active and talk insted of making it stale.
6. I went after hapa again day 2 instead of easy lynches like damdred, onegu and slam (well yeh he was mafia but whatever).
7. I put in more activity at n1 than the last 3 of my scum games combined.
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Things that don't make sense for me as mafia:
1. Shooting rels over hapa/vivax both of who were sfum reading me.
2. Switching off the better town player in the game because I wanted to lynch ls on inconsistencies.
3. Being this active even though my partner would have to have been slam and inactive?
4. Backing down on things and thinking it through and pushing logical things instead of hounding on crap points.
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On January 22 2017 19:05 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2017 18:59 Holyflare wrote:On January 22 2017 13:30 Bill Murray wrote: basically whoever is town needs me to vote with them onegu is voting you im gonna vote him because i can see him being a doctor/medic You realise he said he was fake claiming and claimed vt at the start of the game right lol? Are you trying to dumb tell yourself as confirmed? :D I claim VT at the start of every game that doesnt mean shit...
Are you claiming a role? If you're not then that doesn't mean anything to bm. Does he know you claim vt at the start of the game? Is he reading to know you haven't claimed? Many questions.
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BM, here's the problem I have with you. It looks like you've been with me at every point, said what I've said and then when it comes down to voting mafia (slam) you've made a post about how you won't explain your reasoning for scum reading onegu and damdred. Can you explain that now?
Then you come in at lylo and say instead of agreeing with me you'll be voting me. That's super opportune. Is your sole reason to go against yourself to have an excuse to vote me?
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I fucking hate lylo jesus christ.
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Something is really fucking off here. Both of you have defended/sheeped me all game and both of you are bow voting me. One of you needs to stop being shit and talk to me.
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On January 22 2017 19:26 Holyflare wrote: Something is really fucking off here. Both of you have defended/sheeped me all game and both of you are bow voting me. One of you needs to stop being shit and talk to me.
I am talking to you. But like I said I want mvp and the only way I get mvp is to lynch scum HF... I'll respond to some of your points.
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On January 22 2017 19:10 Holyflare wrote: Ok here's why I'm town:
1. I did actual scum hunting the entire game looking for inconsistencies and evaluated them at each point.
2. I was super into lynching damdred for his mistake but was extremely quick to back off it when I saw that it could have been just a mistake.
3. I went after hapa, one of the best town players on this site, day 1 and when it came to lynch time I commandeered my own lynch to lynch something that made perfect sense to me (ls being mafia) instead of just lynching the good player who was mafia reading me.
4. I spent the entirety of the night trying to figure out the game and have a conversation with vivax and hapa while pointing out things I didn't like from everyone.
5. The thread was dead and I've spent all game trying to resurrect it and get you guys active and talk insted of making it stale.
6. I went after hapa again day 2 instead of easy lynches like damdred, onegu and slam (well yeh he was mafia but whatever).
7. I put in more activity at n1 than the last 3 of my scum games combined.
1. You do that a scum, You are a lawyer.
2. Ok
3. Ok town points for this one.
4. Again you do this a scum also.
5. Easy way to look town.
6. This is a scum point. Like if you are scum you want hapa out of the game right?
7. You knew slam was your partner and knew you would most likely have to carry the game.
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On January 22 2017 19:12 Holyflare wrote: Things that don't make sense for me as mafia:
1. Shooting rels over hapa/vivax both of who were sfum reading me.
2. Switching off the better town player in the game because I wanted to lynch ls on inconsistencies.
3. Being this active even though my partner would have to have been slam and inactive?
4. Backing down on things and thinking it through and pushing logical things instead of hounding on crap points.
1. You dont know if there is a medic in the game if you are scum. Rels medic dodge n1 makes sense.
2. Ok, yeah will give you this one.
3. You want to win. Always have always will. You knew you needed to carry if you get that scummate.
4. Lawyer. And I need to go look if you had crap points or not.
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On December 13 2016 03:44 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2016 03:41 darthfoley wrote:On December 13 2016 03:35 Holyflare wrote: Things that make me town:
my not caring attitude the fact I've called myself town 10000000 times the fact I tried to get absolutely 0 credit from a definite NU lynch while pushing it and voting off the wagon the fact I said we should be lynching SL since day one if SL isn't mafia and then myself and LS/you called out SL and he claiemd JK the fact that I was the ONLY one to try and figure out SL/Rels at the start of the day while the majority of the game wanted to leave the claims alone the fact that I re-calculated SL's alignment from the night to the day after he didn't die and posted damning posts on him the fact that SL has repeatedly called me confirmed town based on the NK wifom the fact that mafia kp still went through while I was jkd 2 nights in a row the fact that I've been wrong a lot the fact I'm emotional and hypocritical and paranoid and tinfoily and unwilling to commit in lylo the fact that I haven't pushed someone as definitely mafia and yelled until that person gets lynched repeatedly the fact that at lylo I haven't even bothered to really save myself and instead told you to lynch me when my most priced possession is my mafia win record The problem is, some of these are compelling reasons to look elsewhere (which I've done on Onegu) and which is why I want you to properly look through Mahrgell like you've done to me. However, I know I'm town, so if the vote is between me or someone else (like you) I literally have to vote on it or town loses. I'm in a predicament and open to options but you're also wrong about me. I'm least likely to vote Mahr right now but if you think there's a case, I'd like to hear it. I really don't want to lose this game after we lynched a mafia D1 Honestly dude, I'm well up for looking into Mahr just for the slip thing, the fact that he's pretty much gone for me all game, the fact that he's doing all this crap at lylo about "Hiding" all his cards??? It's end game what would be the point of hiding.I'm willing to reconsider, sure, but I've only really just got home so I'll have a look. What makes you think it would be Mahrgell? Also assuming I'm town, would you be ruling out Onegu because of what I said or sticking to your narrative?
I'm getting these crazy vibes from you bm. Why do you not want to talk to me and respond to my questions? I need to figure you and onegu out and none of you are making this easier.
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On January 22 2017 19:29 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2017 19:26 Holyflare wrote: Something is really fucking off here. Both of you have defended/sheeped me all game and both of you are bow voting me. One of you needs to stop being shit and talk to me. I am talking to you. But like I said I want mvp and the only way I get mvp is to lynch scum HF... I'll respond to some of your points.
I've also got some bad bad news for you because I'm crazy town. It should be relatively obvious to the majority of the game I'm town. Even fucking vivax thought I was town before he died.
This also doesn't help me read you one bit. You've spent the entirety of the game fobbing off from reading me, promising to read me later into the game and when push comes to shove you do some cop out "oh yeh fuck reading hf let's auto vote in lylo". You've effectively lied about reading me to escape pressure from people and you are not behaving like a town onegu at all. Town onegu would most definitely town read me here.
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Reasons onegu is mafia:
Hard defended me from dying all of day 1 but didnt town read me.
Said he'd make a read on me later in the game but didn't.
Shot rels because rels scum read him and wasn't under suspicion.
Junped on my hapa wagon because it was a non-slam wagon that was started but also didn't town read me still.
Not town reading me in lylo.
Makes an excuse not to give an actual read on me because then he'd have to actually force fake content.
Kept your options on me open forever.
##vote onegu
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That's my final answer. I can't be bothered to fight back if it's just going to be sporadic posts from both of you with no actual content on why you're town. Ridiculous to figure out.
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If it's you bm well played, you made great day 1 posts.
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Lol I never try to really figure you out until Lylo. And now I am saying you are the scum.
I'm going 75% HF. 25% BM.
But because of the game type I'm never unvoteing. Again only way I get mvp is by lynching you. So even if those percentages were flipped. I think I would still vote HF.
If I was scum I doubt I would just auto vote you HF gives me less options.
But now regardless of your alignment you have to vote me.
@BM if you are scum you get MVP. If you are town vote with me to get more points. I am town.
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I literally do not care anymore if that's how you want to play. Cya in 2 days
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On January 22 2017 23:12 Holyflare wrote: That's my final answer. I can't be bothered to fight back if it's just going to be sporadic posts from both of you with no actual content on why you're town. Ridiculous to figure out.
I have been here but I realized I won't unvote you. So if you are town sorry bout that but this is the type of game this is as a qualifier.
@BM you can go back and look day one I was talking about sacrificing my self to get more points as I want to qualify for the finals so I can beat Koshi. My play matches my town mentality as scum I wouldn't offer to sacrifice myself for points, more so with slam as my partner.
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