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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 23 2017 02:36 GMT
#1701
Oh and most redeeming of all is that i didn't hard bus slam for the credit even though he got modkilled!

A) I would never let my team mate note vote and get themselves modkilled.

B) slam would never be on a team with me and not vote because he admires me far too much (you can literally see him confirm that in his filter).

C) i didn't even get credit for slam flipping mafia which is something I'd absolutely take if I knew he was mafia!

Slam being afk and not caring enough to vote twice indicates his team mate was afk and didn't care about the game
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 23 2017 02:42 GMT
#1702
Even vivax knew that and then he died
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 23 2017 02:48 GMT
#1703
On January 20 2017 03:34 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2017 18:34 Holyflare wrote:
On January 19 2017 16:15 Alakaslam wrote:
Arrival in LAX! :D

I <3 California

Hapa as far as I remember I was basically like 1. I have no time and 2. Anyone but HF/Hapa.

I expected one of you to get shot and as that didn't happen, one of you is very likely scum as only one of you would be willing to risk the other in the game afaik.

Then as I went to vote Damdred or HF the choice didn't matter as once the truck got rolling I lost reception entirely for the rest of the day.

The whole time I was in Nebraska, reading or loading a page was so taxing on my phone's battery and my patience both, that I was posting much and reading little.

But now California :D

This is what I joined for


Couple of things really.

1. Why does the nk implicate that one of us is mafia when there's the possibility of a medic?

2. What do you mean "only one of you is willing to risk the other in the game"?

3. Why do you say you don't want to vote me or hapa but then vote me at deadline?

4. Why do you say you are going to find your own scum read but then disappear and haven't even read.

1. I was not considering a medic so that point is moot.
2.I was not considering a medic so now that point is also moot.
3. To prevent a no-lynch, and what makes you think I wasn't going to vote Damdred? TBH if I had had reception I probably would have voted LS.
4. Because Nebraska has enough woodland and winter storms that this time of year, a phone call has a tough time getting through.

I <3 California


Slam also acknowledged that their nk didn't take into account medics at all! (well from what he's said). I don't see any reason for him to lie about that though, seems hard for mafia to setup a mistake like that.

So with that being said with me/hapa/vivax shitting up the thread and rels scum reading onegu hard, it makes sense for them to nk him.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 23 2017 02:54 GMT
#1704
God damn it I really don't want to lose to this crap mafia onegu play. Please chat with me
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 23 2017 02:56 GMT
#1705
Stayed up way too late :/:/

Read page 20 onwards in my filter it's obvious I'm trying to figure out the game
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 23 2017 03:47 GMT
#1706
On January 23 2017 11:32 Holyflare wrote:
Fuck writing that on my phone. Bunch of effort.

really? thats time consuming
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 23 2017 03:53 GMT
#1707
you brought up the "leaving the good people alive" 3 days ago before all the modkill fiasco

also something that i dont do as mafia

especially in a game that could be mountainous (turns out it was?)

mountainous with 2 doctor claims and theyre both here on lylo lol

also as mafia i wouldnt have killed last cycle at all. id have wanted it to be 1 maf 3 town because that lowers the chances of me getting lynched (25% vs 33%) doctors and cops be damned

i had a suspicion there werent going to be any roles

my nightkills would have been N1 HF, N2 Hapa or Vivax, N3 whichever of those other 2 I didn't kill N2 with maybe a Damdred mixed in there because I've played with him so many times depending on how he would have been reading me if I was actually scum

this is all just conjecture though
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 23 2017 03:58 GMT
#1708
On January 23 2017 11:42 Holyflare wrote:
Even vivax knew that and then he died

yeah vivax also noted you called slam mafia so that kind of refutes the point of you not ?

look at this: hapa votes alakaslam, i follow, you follow
vivax votes hapa, you switch vote to hapa, hapa votes himself for some reason and ragequits teamliquid
alakaslam gets modkilled
whoever died last night. vivax? yeah i guess it'd have to be
then we're here. me, you, onegu
ive been calling onegu scum recently and then ur surprised that my reads change quite often and ur like "OMG U THOUGHT SLAM WAS MAF BUT U CALLED OUT DAMDRED AND ONEGU?"
i was about to say was damdred killed last night but then i remembered he was modkilled too
anyways i lie about my reads all the time as town to just look good and survive
thats why i garnered 0 votes this entire game
0 votes

youre trying too hard man.
Onegu looks like an idiot town to me and you look like maf thats just balls to the wall trying his ass off to carry a game that ur good buddy disconnected in. thats the way im reading it in my head. my heart surely is telling me to be buddy buddy with you and roll the dice.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 23 2017 03:59 GMT
#1709
your "could bm be mafia?" thing is like disingenuous and feels like how scum usually react to me when i pressure them
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 23 2017 04:02 GMT
#1710
On January 17 2017 00:55 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 00:50 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 16 2017 16:34 Alakaslam wrote:
Love that activity is reasonable enough that I can keep up

Hiya Hapa you are refreshing. I admit to being terrible but I recognize that you are basically Holyflare + not such a DA. Especially a DA from my area. (District Attorney: prosecutor.)

The point on Damdred proves this.

I see his reaction to Vivax however, and I know: "hapa has the DA in him too -_-"

Maybe I need to be a DA

But then I'd have to care a whole lot more, tbh because to notice crap and sling it I'd have to be online much longer.

That being said, obligatory CHUPAZI HIJOLE ETC
Oh lol my phone switched to Spanish once I said obligatory whaaaaaat

My phone hates me and hopes I never think clearly


So what does this post say? Hapa is like me but not as aggressive but the you contradict yourself mid post and say he is actually aggressive?

this could read as scumcoaching someone who isnt actively in the QT

alakaslam seemed to have connectivity issues and travelling issues
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 23 2017 04:03 GMT
#1711
On January 17 2017 02:24 Holyflare wrote:
Have no fear I have a day 3+ mafia catching strategy that has worked 100% of the two times I've used it.

and what was this?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 23 2017 04:06 GMT
#1712
so like vivax told me in whisper that ur scum

lol jk bet ur heart jumped there
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 23 2017 04:11 GMT
#1713
anyways i really wanted you to be town but the vivax kill coming from onegu just doesnt make sense

you kill me , you leave vivax who scum locks you and onegu who lynches you for points
you kill onegu, you leave vivax who i would have lynched 100% over you <- your only win here
you kill vivax, which is what you did, because he 100% suspects you and lowkey thinks i might be ur partner, leaving me and onegu (who you imagine ill lynch over you because he was someone who i have thrown out as suspecting)

the real reason i ever put onegu or damdreds names out there though is their activity was in question and some scum have low activity. thats why i targetted ls. some scum arent like that though and try to carry the game (hi HF)
that being said id reckon im right about you being scum
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 23 2017 04:12 GMT
#1714
the reason i white knighted u d1 is not just because ur fun to play with. it was a strategy

keep ur friends close and ur enemies closer

ur scum? knife in the back from the VT on a lynch

ur town? we can bro out together at the end
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 23 2017 04:13 GMT
#1715
ugh maybe u ARE town i just found a towntell in ur post on the top of this page
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 23 2017 04:14 GMT
#1716
im gonna have to read ur fucking scum game on a diff game now to see if u do that towntell as scum ... sigh

my vote is staying though ... for now... and probably not unvoting tbh
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 23 2017 04:26 GMT
#1717
On January 22 2017 10:46 Holyflare wrote:
here's where I'm currently at, I've liked what bm has been saying all game and we've been kind of buddy buddy and he's been a voice of reason, the things I don't like is his refusal to talk to me/go through hapa yesterday and his lack of consolidation and his calling out people for not voting slam while voting off slam and even calling out onegu for voting for bm's scum read...?

please explain above bm it's important

thing with onegu is he's been voting with me which is good and always admirable but he's also hard defended me a lot day 1/2 while not actually town reading me which is insanely questionable... then there's the medic claim a couple of hours before deadline which he expected to get shot for???? like wtf who would do that? and now he's suddenly snap voting me instead of actually looking into what i've been doing, I feel like it's a bit of a low tier play especially when his whole stuff is he'd play harder as mafia with hapa in the game i've definitely heard that somewhere but I can't remember where

well when shit hit the fan in real life it hampered my want to play

things have gotten better so im back to the old me and i want to play mafia today. just in time, eh?

with you/hapa if you noticed, i had your back all game. i didnt think either of you were mafia. i thought if one of you were, it was likelier you, but i was holding out hope and praying youre town because ive heard good things. my lack of consolidation is because i didnt want to get in the middle of you two, and i really really REALLY tried for you two to work together. he just wasnt having it.

i agree that onegu has been playing very poorly and has been acting stupid
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 23 2017 04:26 GMT
#1718
#backtobasics
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 23 2017 04:28 GMT
#1719
On January 22 2017 18:59 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2017 13:30 Bill Murray wrote:
basically whoever is town needs me to vote with them
onegu is voting you
im gonna vote him because i can see him being a doctor/medic


You realise he said he was fake claiming and claimed vt at the start of the game right lol? Are you trying to dumb tell yourself as confirmed? :D

with this i wanted you to say the specific phrase VT
its on page 1 sure but if someone merely said townie or whatever... idk im insane over rhetoric

On January 22 2017 19:10 Holyflare wrote:
Ok here's why I'm town:

1. I did actual scum hunting the entire game looking for inconsistencies and evaluated them at each point.

2. I was super into lynching damdred for his mistake but was extremely quick to back off it when I saw that it could have been just a mistake.

3. I went after hapa, one of the best town players on this site, day 1 and when it came to lynch time I commandeered my own lynch to lynch something that made perfect sense to me (ls being mafia) instead of just lynching the good player who was mafia reading me.

4. I spent the entirety of the night trying to figure out the game and have a conversation with vivax and hapa while pointing out things I didn't like from everyone.

5. The thread was dead and I've spent all game trying to resurrect it and get you guys active and talk insted of making it stale.

6. I went after hapa again day 2 instead of easy lynches like damdred, onegu and slam (well yeh he was mafia but whatever).

7. I put in more activity at n1 than the last 3 of my scum games combined.


ok lets compare the above with a game i KNOW youre town in: mini with funny gifs, a recent one... and here it is:
On December 13 2016 03:35 Holyflare wrote:
Things that make me town:

my not caring attitude
the fact I've called myself town 10000000 times
the fact I tried to get absolutely 0 credit from a definite NU lynch while pushing it and voting off the wagon
the fact I said we should be lynching SL since day one if SL isn't mafia and then myself and LS/you called out SL and he claiemd JK
the fact that I was the ONLY one to try and figure out SL/Rels at the start of the day while the majority of the game wanted to leave the claims alone
the fact that I re-calculated SL's alignment from the night to the day after he didn't die and posted damning posts on him
the fact that SL has repeatedly called me confirmed town based on the NK wifom
the fact that mafia kp still went through while I was jkd 2 nights in a row
the fact that I've been wrong a lot
the fact I'm emotional and hypocritical and paranoid and tinfoily and unwilling to commit in lylo
the fact that I haven't pushed someone as definitely mafia and yelled until that person gets lynched repeatedly
the fact that at lylo I haven't even bothered to really save myself and instead told you to lynch me when my most priced possession is my mafia win record


University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 23 2017 04:28 GMT
#1720
On January 22 2017 19:12 Holyflare wrote:
Things that don't make sense for me as mafia:

1. Shooting rels over hapa/vivax both of who were sfum reading me.

2. Switching off the better town player in the game because I wanted to lynch ls on inconsistencies.

3. Being this active even though my partner would have to have been slam and inactive?

4. Backing down on things and thinking it through and pushing logical things instead of hounding on crap points.

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