Liquidmania Qualifier #2 - Page 6

On January 16 2017 04:22 Damdred wrote:
It is interesting as a side note that hapa was interested enough to ask me a question about ls reading but just disnt care enough to respond to me answering (feelings hurt).

Really I did like that vivax had a sort of point he wanted to drive home. I disagree with him though.

I liked hapa offensive capabilities but I sort of feel like it was misplaced it felt like.

Fight seems off to me.

On January 16 2017 04:11 Hapahauli wrote:
Your attempt at diplomacy bores me.

Why do you like that Vivax drew his conclusion if you thought it was weird?

On January 16 2017 04:34 Holyflare wrote:


I liked the process of reading what you were doing and making a remark on how it affected his thought on you. It was remarkably high level compared to what I'm used to seeing recently.

On January 16 2017 04:22 Damdred wrote:
It is interesting as a side note that hapa was interested enough to ask me a question about ls reading but just disnt care enough to respond to me answering (feelings hurt).

Really I did like that vivax had a sort of point he wanted to drive home. I disagree with him though.

I liked hapa offensive capabilities but I sort of feel like it was misplaced it felt like.

Fight seems off to me.

On January 16 2017 04:32 LightningStrike wrote:

I agree on the last portion. Also I not important to Hapa apparently lol.

On January 16 2017 04:42 Hapahauli wrote:


There is nothing to discuss about you reading LS. At some point in this game, you'll make a read on him, and I'll judge for myself whether it makes sense or not. I just need to know what expectations I should have.



You're always welcome to scum-slip so I can tunnel you into the ground for the next 48 hours or so.

On January 16 2017 04:36 Hapahauli wrote:


So do you find Vivax's post weird for the reason I posted out? Ot because it is higher-level than what you're used to seeing? Or something else?

On January 16 2017 04:45 Holyflare wrote:


Correct.

You're missing my point.

"X post is scummy" isn't absolute reasoning. I don't care about what the reasoning is. The point is that the statement is direct. The statement is clear. It has a straightforward objective. Town have no reason to hide, and every reason to communicate clearly about their intentions.

There's very little point in announcing "this post may be suspicious". It's indirect. It is unclear. What exactly is the objective of announcing something you aren't sure about?

On January 16 2017 04:28 Hapahauli wrote:
I don't think the meta point would have led to any good conversation. I'd rather you address the part of your post I considered scummy than something I considered more non-alignment indicative.

On January 16 2017 05:14 Vivax wrote:


Town has no reason to hide et cetera is just an empty phrase in this context. A truism that everyone will agree with while unrelated to the context, as I hid nothing. Smells a bit like a rhetorical trick where you mix statements nobody can disagree with into the rest of the (debatable) argumentation.

My objective was to point out your attitude in the thread, which I did. And argue why it could come from scum, which I did.

But my objective is also to not make a decision too early based on too little. And I believe it is too little on its own to outright call you scum for it.

So I still don't know what point you are trying to make besides that I should reason in absolutes as town. Is the point now that I tried to hide something?

Your meta question just seems out of place to me. I literally have no idea why I should apply meta when I'm just having a conversation with someone scumreading me. So I'm wondering how it made it into your argumentation, which I still don't see explained. Maybe now you think that it's not important. But it's important to know what you were thinking at the time that you wrote that.

On January 16 2017 05:16 Damdred wrote:
Here is the thing hapa I already have a pretty solid read on me currently. And that he is probably town at this point moving forward.

How did I get here? Why thank you for asking!

You see it starts with me having bad reasons that are correct. LS makes a meta point about my play and how I react to him, ( ie of I legit push him as scum and he flips town im scum as I read him like 100%). Town point.

States things that are clear as day at points even jokes. Town point (really lacks much of this as scum).

And seems to be able to give ok if not lower thought process on current events. So he's just town.

And that went on longer than I wanted

On January 16 2017 05:25 Vivax wrote:
I could use some feedback on the content of the whole discussion. Especially from HF cause he's been too neutral for my taste so far.

I really dislike having to post an opinion on Hapa at this point cause it's always hard to seem credible/unbiased when being attacked, but the first oddity I noticed is the way he went about it.

Is it townie that you instantly make a case (with that out of place question about meta, I might add) with questions mixed in it that you could simply have asked beforehand?

On January 16 2017 05:32 Hapahauli wrote:
"Agree here" = I didn't like HolyFlare's entrance.

On January 16 2017 05:25 Hapahauli wrote:


Okay.

Is this a case you would make on other townies, or is there something meta-specific here about LS? How confident is this read, scale of 1 to 10?

On January 16 2017 05:36 Vivax wrote:


Do you find it scummy?

On January 16 2017 04:07 Holyflare wrote:
I like that vivax drew his conclusion, I like that hapa called it weird because I felt the same.

That is all.

On January 16 2017 04:34 Holyflare wrote:


I liked the process of reading what you were doing and making a remark on how it affected his thought on you. It was remarkably high level compared to what I'm used to seeing recently.

On January 16 2017 05:41 Hapahauli wrote:


Yes.

#1


#2


#2 is not a satisfying explanation of #1. It does not make much sense how HF can consider something "weird", yet "remarkably high level".