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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 17 2017 18:14 GMT
#901
Ok I am done. Where are you HF?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 17 2017 18:14 GMT
#902
On January 18 2017 03:05 Vivax wrote:
And of course now they tried to play tag team with me and when Damdred even suggested that LS is scum they both snatched the opportunity to lynch him immediately after making cases on each other all day long.

Then Hapa tried to accuse me of being hypocritical in that regard. But I'm not, cause I did discuss Hapa and HF all day long. I didn't discuss LS at all, I only mentioned his absence being noticeable once, but I still wouldn't have lynched him off that single observation.

So I see no reason why I should see a Hapa lynch as shenannie, but not a LS one. I discussed Hapa and HF for 48 hours. I wasn't going to throw that away for a few minutes of induced paranoia.


Actually, no, I posted about the lightningstrike switch first after reading hapa's games because I became unsure. You say you spent 48 hours discussing hf/hapa but the entirety of the time it was you going for the lynch on me the last half of the cycle so you switching to hapa is NOT 48 hours of discussed time, it's almost 0.

Please, explain why you were keen to jump on hapa for that ONE post but when I delved and delivered 2-3 posts that were contradictory from LS you called us tools for switching?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 17 2017 18:16 GMT
#903
On January 18 2017 02:58 Holyflare wrote:
All right vivax is blatantly not going to say anything at all.

HAPA let's chat.

Did you even meta damdred at all this game? I don't remember you saying.

Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 17 2017 18:16 GMT
#904
On January 18 2017 03:14 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 03:05 Vivax wrote:
And of course now they tried to play tag team with me and when Damdred even suggested that LS is scum they both snatched the opportunity to lynch him immediately after making cases on each other all day long.

Then Hapa tried to accuse me of being hypocritical in that regard. But I'm not, cause I did discuss Hapa and HF all day long. I didn't discuss LS at all, I only mentioned his absence being noticeable once, but I still wouldn't have lynched him off that single observation.

So I see no reason why I should see a Hapa lynch as shenannie, but not a LS one. I discussed Hapa and HF for 48 hours. I wasn't going to throw that away for a few minutes of induced paranoia.


Actually, no, I posted about the lightningstrike switch first after reading hapa's games because I became unsure. You say you spent 48 hours discussing hf/hapa but the entirety of the time it was you going for the lynch on me the last half of the cycle so you switching to hapa is NOT 48 hours of discussed time, it's almost 0.

Please, explain why you were keen to jump on hapa for that ONE post but when I delved and delivered 2-3 posts that were contradictory from LS you called us tools for switching?


Not done. Bolded x1000000.

Switching vote to me in a bubble, whatever that's fine.
Switching vote to me for the reasons that Vivax had, sketchy.
Switching vote to me when he thought he found something nonsensical and damning in HF's filter, all while he was scumreading HF, nonfuckingsensical.
Scumreading HF and me, and DERAILING the lynch from HF and almost causing a no lynch. Get lynched with fire.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 17 2017 18:17 GMT
#905
I'm feeling the strat here was to lynch between me and hapa and maybe get the other one lynched afterwards. That seems like a logical vivax mafia strat.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 17 2017 18:17 GMT
#906
What is your read on me?
Is Vivax bad or mafia?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 17 2017 18:17 GMT
#907
but you still could be mafia :D
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 17 2017 18:19 GMT
#908
As could you. That's what we're here to figure out, right?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 17 2017 18:20 GMT
#909
your games are old and all defensive and different to this because of the different nature of the game so it's quite hard to have a proper read until I've really talked to you and I wanted another day to do that (I have tomorrow off thankfully) but they were different enough to yolo gut read on ls

vivax's push on me and repeated harping on the damdred point despite me telling him things otherwise for the last 4 hours before the lynch are tiresome and repetitive and wasn't concerned with figuring me out but instead burying things on top and not listening it was quite scummy and then his deadline actions just reminded me so badly of that game I linked (haunted mansion) where he wanted to be cool and complain about the new other wagon as mafia and then call me mafia afterwards (he did get me lynched tho)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 17 2017 18:21 GMT
#910
Did you read damdred's meta or not?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 17 2017 18:23 GMT
#911
also where the fuck has everyone gone? get mislynch, profit, leave?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 17 2017 18:25 GMT
#912
Keep in mind that all of my games will be "old", because I haven't played any games recently. I want to say my last game on this site was a year and ah alf ago.

When I look back through Vivax's filter, a lot of the cases I thought were analytical and looked good look much worse in retrospect. Him going after Rels for example seemed like him being really thick and for wahtever reason not acknowledging that Rels was just posting reads as he went along with the thread.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 17 2017 18:26 GMT
#913
I haven't looked at Damdred. That's the plan for tonight.

I have played with him a few times before, and from what I remember, this is uncharacteristic for him as mafia or town.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 17 2017 18:28 GMT
#914
but I told you it's completely characteristic of his town game and even explained I've had the same reservation beforehand in another game but then you went and meta read slam instead...? why?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 17 2017 18:30 GMT
#915
I'm still not comfortable with your alignment, and I'd probably be railing on you right now if
a) Vivax didn't make the most pro-mafia voting moves I've ever seen, and
b) railing on Vivax didn't make me feel buddy-buddy with you

Questions I still have for you are:
1) Why so lazy?
2) Why the vote on Damdred, when you were clearly suspicious of a bunch of other people for non-coinflippy reasons?
3) Was I really your only scumread leading up to the lynch?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 17 2017 18:31 GMT
#916
On January 18 2017 03:28 Holyflare wrote:
but I told you it's completely characteristic of his town game and even explained I've had the same reservation beforehand in another game but then you went and meta read slam instead...? why?


Oh. Then I completely missed that. It's hard to take the posts of someone you're tunneling seriously, ya know?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 17 2017 18:33 GMT
#917
Can you pull up that Damdred game for me?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 17 2017 18:44 GMT
#918
Actually forget this conversation HF. You have information to work with. Who is mafia other than Vivax?

I'm always going to try to read you based on the quality of your analysis and opinions, and not how you can answer a bunch of softball questions I throw at you.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 17 2017 18:51 GMT
#919
i work 8-5.30 in an office with no internet so i'm lazy when I get home ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

you have definitely not been reading the posts because I've explained this 10000 times, damdred was a coin flip and my vote was already on him so I didn't have to go in another thread and change my vote to someone else and pressure voting someone/at least starting ANY wagon was good

you/ls/insertafkerhere I only have time to focus on one or two people and arguing about you was the majority of time so yeah kind of

damdred game i'll find in a bit
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 17 2017 18:53 GMT
#920
The DA's office has no internet? The hell?
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