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On January 16 2017 21:37 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2017 21:34 Vivax wrote:
Rels hold on a moment.
You go on to disagree with Damdred about these points making LS town.
Why immediately jump to the conclusion that it's TMI afterwards if you aren't sure that LS is town? I think LS could be scum. I find Damdred's reasons to townread LS bad. Damdred is supposed to have a god meta read on LS. So if Damdred is scum, he's using his god meta read as an excuse to just give a townread to someone he knows is town, even though it doesn't show in the thread.
I still don't follow you. For one, god meta read is something I don't believe in.
And next, I don't know why mafia! Damdred shouldn't have an interest in lynching town LS, or why it has to be an excuse. You could also have simply concluded that town! Damdred applied his god meta read here.
Your reasoning doesn't convince me at all.
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On January 16 2017 21:51 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2017 21:44 Vivax wrote:On January 16 2017 21:37 Rels wrote:On January 16 2017 21:34 Vivax wrote:
Rels hold on a moment.
You go on to disagree with Damdred about these points making LS town.
Why immediately jump to the conclusion that it's TMI afterwards if you aren't sure that LS is town? I think LS could be scum. I find Damdred's reasons to townread LS bad. Damdred is supposed to have a god meta read on LS. So if Damdred is scum, he's using his god meta read as an excuse to just give a townread to someone he knows is town, even though it doesn't show in the thread. I still don't follow you. For one, god meta read is something I don't believe in. And next, I don't know why mafia! Damdred shouldn't have an interest in lynching town LS, or why it has to be an excuse. You could also have simply concluded that town! Damdred applied his god meta read here. Your reasoning doesn't convince me at all. I don't believe it's likely at all that mafia!Damdred will ever use his "god meta read" to try to mislynch LS. The fact that Damdred can read LS very well is a well known fact. I explained why I found Damdred's townread of LS bad. But I liked that he pressured LS on spitting out posts, instead of buddying him
I'll let Damdred get back to that as I can't really remember if or when he mislynched town LS as mafia.
If you believe that Damdred can read LS very well and treat is as a fact, then why say he spewed him town as mafia? That's the point that I still didn't see sufficiently answered, you would have to believe that you can read LS better than Damdred, and you would have to believe that LS IS town which you didn't seem to think when you posted that.
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On January 16 2017 21:07 Rels wrote:
This seems like TMI. If Damdred is scum LS is spewed town
On January 16 2017 22:04 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2017 22:00 Vivax wrote:On January 16 2017 21:51 Rels wrote:On January 16 2017 21:44 Vivax wrote:On January 16 2017 21:37 Rels wrote:On January 16 2017 21:34 Vivax wrote:
Rels hold on a moment.
You go on to disagree with Damdred about these points making LS town.
Why immediately jump to the conclusion that it's TMI afterwards if you aren't sure that LS is town? I think LS could be scum. I find Damdred's reasons to townread LS bad. Damdred is supposed to have a god meta read on LS. So if Damdred is scum, he's using his god meta read as an excuse to just give a townread to someone he knows is town, even though it doesn't show in the thread. I still don't follow you. For one, god meta read is something I don't believe in. And next, I don't know why mafia! Damdred shouldn't have an interest in lynching town LS, or why it has to be an excuse. You could also have simply concluded that town! Damdred applied his god meta read here. Your reasoning doesn't convince me at all. I don't believe it's likely at all that mafia!Damdred will ever use his "god meta read" to try to mislynch LS. The fact that Damdred can read LS very well is a well known fact. I explained why I found Damdred's townread of LS bad. But I liked that he pressured LS on spitting out posts, instead of buddying him I'll let Damdred get back to that as I can't really remember if or when he mislynched town LS as mafia. If you believe that Damdred can read LS very well and treat is as a fact, then why say he spewed him town as mafia? That's the point that I still didn't see sufficiently answered, you would have to believe that you can read LS better than Damdred, and you would have to believe that LS IS town which you didn't seem to think when you posted that. My problem was that (1) I find LS scummy and (2) I find Damdred's reasonning pretty bad 'cause LS has proved he can do all of those things as scum. Usually Damdred's reasons to townread LS are more nebuleous feelings, especially D1.
How can the bolded fit together? You would never jump to the conclusion that Damdred is mafia for spewing LS as town when you believe that LS is scummy.
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On January 16 2017 22:09 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2017 22:08 Vivax wrote:On January 16 2017 21:07 Rels wrote:
This seems like TMI. If Damdred is scum LS is spewed town On January 16 2017 22:04 Rels wrote:On January 16 2017 22:00 Vivax wrote:On January 16 2017 21:51 Rels wrote:On January 16 2017 21:44 Vivax wrote:On January 16 2017 21:37 Rels wrote:On January 16 2017 21:34 Vivax wrote:
Rels hold on a moment.
You go on to disagree with Damdred about these points making LS town.
Why immediately jump to the conclusion that it's TMI afterwards if you aren't sure that LS is town? I think LS could be scum. I find Damdred's reasons to townread LS bad. Damdred is supposed to have a god meta read on LS. So if Damdred is scum, he's using his god meta read as an excuse to just give a townread to someone he knows is town, even though it doesn't show in the thread. I still don't follow you. For one, god meta read is something I don't believe in. And next, I don't know why mafia! Damdred shouldn't have an interest in lynching town LS, or why it has to be an excuse. You could also have simply concluded that town! Damdred applied his god meta read here. Your reasoning doesn't convince me at all. I don't believe it's likely at all that mafia!Damdred will ever use his "god meta read" to try to mislynch LS. The fact that Damdred can read LS very well is a well known fact. I explained why I found Damdred's townread of LS bad. But I liked that he pressured LS on spitting out posts, instead of buddying him I'll let Damdred get back to that as I can't really remember if or when he mislynched town LS as mafia. If you believe that Damdred can read LS very well and treat is as a fact, then why say he spewed him town as mafia? That's the point that I still didn't see sufficiently answered, you would have to believe that you can read LS better than Damdred, and you would have to believe that LS IS town which you didn't seem to think when you posted that. My problem was that (1) I find LS scummy and (2) I find Damdred's reasonning pretty bad 'cause LS has proved he can do all of those things as scum. Usually Damdred's reasons to townread LS are more nebuleous feelings, especially D1. How can the bolded fit together? You would never jump to the conclusion that Damdred is mafia for spewing LS as town when you believe that LS is scummy. If I found LS townie I wouldn't have found Damdred's townread on him to be TMI.
That doesn't make sense Rels. You said posthum that you found LS at the time scummy, that means the thought that Damdred should be suspected for spewing him as town should never have crossed your mind. Your reasoning would appear more credible if you believed them both to be mafia and that Damdred was covering LS with his god read.
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On January 16 2017 22:15 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2017 22:13 Vivax wrote:On January 16 2017 22:09 Rels wrote:On January 16 2017 22:08 Vivax wrote:On January 16 2017 21:07 Rels wrote:
This seems like TMI. If Damdred is scum LS is spewed town On January 16 2017 22:04 Rels wrote:On January 16 2017 22:00 Vivax wrote:On January 16 2017 21:51 Rels wrote:On January 16 2017 21:44 Vivax wrote:On January 16 2017 21:37 Rels wrote:On January 16 2017 21:34 Vivax wrote:
Rels hold on a moment.
You go on to disagree with Damdred about these points making LS town.
Why immediately jump to the conclusion that it's TMI afterwards if you aren't sure that LS is town? I think LS could be scum. I find Damdred's reasons to townread LS bad. Damdred is supposed to have a god meta read on LS. So if Damdred is scum, he's using his god meta read as an excuse to just give a townread to someone he knows is town, even though it doesn't show in the thread. I still don't follow you. For one, god meta read is something I don't believe in. And next, I don't know why mafia! Damdred shouldn't have an interest in lynching town LS, or why it has to be an excuse. You could also have simply concluded that town! Damdred applied his god meta read here. Your reasoning doesn't convince me at all. I don't believe it's likely at all that mafia!Damdred will ever use his "god meta read" to try to mislynch LS. The fact that Damdred can read LS very well is a well known fact. I explained why I found Damdred's townread of LS bad. But I liked that he pressured LS on spitting out posts, instead of buddying him I'll let Damdred get back to that as I can't really remember if or when he mislynched town LS as mafia. If you believe that Damdred can read LS very well and treat is as a fact, then why say he spewed him town as mafia? That's the point that I still didn't see sufficiently answered, you would have to believe that you can read LS better than Damdred, and you would have to believe that LS IS town which you didn't seem to think when you posted that. My problem was that (1) I find LS scummy and (2) I find Damdred's reasonning pretty bad 'cause LS has proved he can do all of those things as scum. Usually Damdred's reasons to townread LS are more nebuleous feelings, especially D1. How can the bolded fit together? You would never jump to the conclusion that Damdred is mafia for spewing LS as town when you believe that LS is scummy. If I found LS townie I wouldn't have found Damdred's townread on him to be TMI. That doesn't make sense Rels. You said posthum that you found LS at the time scummy, that means the thought that Damdred should be suspected for spewing him as town should never have crossed your mind. Your reasoning would appear more credible if you believed them both to be mafia and that Damdred was covering LS with his god read. Nope I don't think it's likely for scum!Damdred to make a list of reasons for scum!LS to be town. Too much spotlight if LS flips, when Damdred is known for his LS read.
The one game I have in mind actually, they both hard defended each other. It's the one where they got all emotional, can't remember the name.
On January 16 2017 21:07 Rels wrote:
This seems like TMI. If Damdred is scum LS is spewed town
Walk me around why you said this cause it's the one post that I don't see a townie making in the context where he believes that LS is scummy.
When you made it you must have believed that Damdreds reasons are bad.
If Damdreds reasons are bad, then Damdred can be scum, but LS can't be scum.
But LS can be scum, so why mention TMI?
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On January 16 2017 22:19 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2017 15:54 Holyflare wrote:On January 16 2017 13:58 LightningStrike wrote:On January 16 2017 13:15 Onegu wrote:
Is this game really a 12:00 EST deadline? Yes Why did you want to know if Damdred was around? Was wanting to him something that was all.
LS did Damdred never mislynch you or push for your mislynch when he was mafia?
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On January 16 2017 22:23 Rels wrote:
You' re beginning to annoy me.
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I'll fly over our conversation again and get back to you. I feel like I'm still onto something.
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Basically Rels claims to believe really really strongly that Damdred would never defend LS when they're both scum, and that's his only reason for ever making that post about TMI.
Now I'm not 100 % sure if I should believe that cuz it seems fishy.
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And then this:
On January 16 2017 21:41 Rels wrote:
That's where I'm at, town to scum:
Vivax HF
Onegu Slam Damdred BM
LS Hapa
On January 16 2017 21:45 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2017 08:46 LightningStrike wrote:On January 16 2017 08:40 Hapahauli wrote:
Where did LightningStrike and Vivax go? What do you guys think about all of this? I think Hf is being a bit nitpicky? That fight feels weird idk why honestly. Show nested quote +On January 16 2017 09:23 LightningStrike wrote:On January 16 2017 09:09 Damdred wrote:On January 16 2017 08:46 LightningStrike wrote:On January 16 2017 08:40 Hapahauli wrote:
Where did LightningStrike and Vivax go? What do you guys think about all of this? I think Hf is being a bit nitpicky? That fight feels weird idk why honestly. But why weird ls? Which side is weird? Idk it just feels weird. Maybe HF's side? Idk man. I don't like these posts at all. The comments are bland. It's pretty different from a very similar situation where LS was town and had to post about a fight going on in the thread: Show nested quote +On November 29 2016 23:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Something tells me there is a scum between NU and EC the tone between them don't seem exactly town on town. Call it a gut feeling nothing concrete about it. Don't think both would be mafia it doesn't feel like mafia on mafia talk especially since it not Shapelog bussing a teammate this early like he normally does (hint I think Shapelog is town this game). Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 01:42 LightningStrike wrote:On November 30 2016 01:37 mahrgell wrote:On November 30 2016 01:31 LightningStrike wrote:On November 30 2016 01:22 Shapelog wrote:Now I have to write a paper >_< On November 29 2016 22:42 mahrgell wrote:
Grmpf... now I went through all filters... And somehow got left disappointed. All the people I would like to know more about have not posted lately... And the other half of players just tries to expand their filter size without contributing anything. Guess I just vote for policy killing almost everyone!
Guess I write a summary anyway... Maybe this helps me to order my thoughts better. So what, how are you going to make this happen? How are going to fix it? On November 29 2016 23:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Something tells me there is a scum between NU and EC the tone between them don't seem exactly town on town. Call it a gut feeling nothing concrete about it. Don't think both would be mafia it doesn't feel like mafia on mafia talk especially since it not Shapelog bussing a teammate this early like he normally does (hint I think Shapelog is town this game). Can you explain this more if you can? It hard to explain but it a gut feeling on tone between EC and NU it doesn't feel town on town for some reason when they talked to each other. Uhm?? I can't follow that argument. How it the tone of a townie in TvT different from his tone in TvM? If you can't decide who is the M in this matchup, I'm not seeing how you come to the conclusion that this should be TvM. Or are you saying it is TvM or MvM? Tone of TvT feels more natural while TvM feels unnatural ie like something feels forced by one side. EC vs NU seems like TvM on tone. I will look into more later when I get on a computer because quoting posts is a pain in the assignment on mobile. Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 01:47 LightningStrike wrote:On November 29 2016 12:57 emperorchampion wrote:On November 29 2016 09:34 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.
Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons. Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced. Your awesome bro LS is the one who looks like he has a knife stuck in the butt. Look at his entry: On November 29 2016 07:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey first game since my ban which was like 5-6 months ago? Anyways Onegu's vote on EC seems pretty him joking around but outside of that nothing notable has happened. He felt the need to summarize the 10 posts that were made prior to him posting, and I can't think of another reason why he would precise that it is his first game in a while after the game started other than giving an excuse to his rustiness. That looks forced. Flagged this post, I dun like it. 1) It looks like you're trying to make something out of nothing re: throwing something at LS. 2) It reads like you're smooshing two thoughts together, which makes me think that you had some conclusion in mind and are making the evidence fit that. Requires further investigation. This post and the one after in EC's filter and the response from NU tone wise makes it seem there is a mafia between them. Like something doesn't feel natural in their conversation. Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:
I here now. Not much has happened. I do think if one of EC or NU was scum it would be NU because he seems a bit opportunistic at times for his push on people (on me and EC) yet at the same he trying to solve the game more than EC. Plus the hidden LS rule that tends to happen: If someone is playing their game with me ever they would try to push me at someway.
On January 16 2017 22:19 Rels wrote:
And at the time I didn't what LS scummy. I didn't think he did anything townie
The order seems odd cause you say that at the time LS was null, but you put him among the scummier elements. THEN you post reasons for why you would think that he's scummy.
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On January 16 2017 22:34 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2017 22:24 Vivax wrote:On January 16 2017 22:19 LightningStrike wrote:On January 16 2017 15:54 Holyflare wrote:On January 16 2017 13:58 LightningStrike wrote:On January 16 2017 13:15 Onegu wrote:
Is this game really a 12:00 EST deadline? Yes Why did you want to know if Damdred was around? Was wanting to him something that was all. LS did Damdred never mislynch you or push for your mislynch when he was mafia? He has pushed me for my mislynch when he's scum with me being town. One of those games where he done it before he left was Onegu is the Best Host which you did play in. Here was his filter from that game but if you remembered I got modkilled there and Snickers ruined the game too: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/511409-onegu-is-the-best-host-mafia?user=Damdred
On January 16 2017 21:51 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2017 21:44 Vivax wrote:On January 16 2017 21:37 Rels wrote:On January 16 2017 21:34 Vivax wrote:
Rels hold on a moment.
You go on to disagree with Damdred about these points making LS town.
Why immediately jump to the conclusion that it's TMI afterwards if you aren't sure that LS is town? I think LS could be scum. I find Damdred's reasons to townread LS bad. Damdred is supposed to have a god meta read on LS. So if Damdred is scum, he's using his god meta read as an excuse to just give a townread to someone he knows is town, even though it doesn't show in the thread. I still don't follow you. For one, god meta read is something I don't believe in. And next, I don't know why mafia! Damdred shouldn't have an interest in lynching town LS, or why it has to be an excuse. You could also have simply concluded that town! Damdred applied his god meta read here. Your reasoning doesn't convince me at all. I don't believe it's likely at all that mafia!Damdred will ever use his "god meta read" to try to mislynch LS. The fact that Damdred can read LS very well is a well known fact. I explained why I found Damdred's townread of LS bad. But I liked that he pressured LS on spitting out posts, instead of buddying him
Then we can resume discussion here.
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On January 16 2017 22:33 Rels wrote:
I really like your way of thinking though. Your read on me changed until you got to the thing that was bothering you
My read is still changing and malleable but yes, I'm leaning mafia on you for now.
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On January 16 2017 22:37 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2017 22:34 Vivax wrote:And then this: On January 16 2017 21:41 Rels wrote:
That's where I'm at, town to scum:
Vivax HF
Onegu Slam Damdred BM
LS Hapa On January 16 2017 21:45 Rels wrote:On January 16 2017 08:46 LightningStrike wrote:On January 16 2017 08:40 Hapahauli wrote:
Where did LightningStrike and Vivax go? What do you guys think about all of this? I think Hf is being a bit nitpicky? That fight feels weird idk why honestly. On January 16 2017 09:23 LightningStrike wrote:On January 16 2017 09:09 Damdred wrote:On January 16 2017 08:46 LightningStrike wrote:On January 16 2017 08:40 Hapahauli wrote:
Where did LightningStrike and Vivax go? What do you guys think about all of this? I think Hf is being a bit nitpicky? That fight feels weird idk why honestly. But why weird ls? Which side is weird? Idk it just feels weird. Maybe HF's side? Idk man. I don't like these posts at all. The comments are bland. It's pretty different from a very similar situation where LS was town and had to post about a fight going on in the thread: On November 29 2016 23:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Something tells me there is a scum between NU and EC the tone between them don't seem exactly town on town. Call it a gut feeling nothing concrete about it. Don't think both would be mafia it doesn't feel like mafia on mafia talk especially since it not Shapelog bussing a teammate this early like he normally does (hint I think Shapelog is town this game). On November 30 2016 01:42 LightningStrike wrote:On November 30 2016 01:37 mahrgell wrote:On November 30 2016 01:31 LightningStrike wrote:On November 30 2016 01:22 Shapelog wrote:Now I have to write a paper >_< On November 29 2016 22:42 mahrgell wrote:
Grmpf... now I went through all filters... And somehow got left disappointed. All the people I would like to know more about have not posted lately... And the other half of players just tries to expand their filter size without contributing anything. Guess I just vote for policy killing almost everyone!
Guess I write a summary anyway... Maybe this helps me to order my thoughts better. So what, how are you going to make this happen? How are going to fix it? On November 29 2016 23:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Something tells me there is a scum between NU and EC the tone between them don't seem exactly town on town. Call it a gut feeling nothing concrete about it. Don't think both would be mafia it doesn't feel like mafia on mafia talk especially since it not Shapelog bussing a teammate this early like he normally does (hint I think Shapelog is town this game). Can you explain this more if you can? It hard to explain but it a gut feeling on tone between EC and NU it doesn't feel town on town for some reason when they talked to each other. Uhm?? I can't follow that argument. How it the tone of a townie in TvT different from his tone in TvM? If you can't decide who is the M in this matchup, I'm not seeing how you come to the conclusion that this should be TvM. Or are you saying it is TvM or MvM? Tone of TvT feels more natural while TvM feels unnatural ie like something feels forced by one side. EC vs NU seems like TvM on tone. I will look into more later when I get on a computer because quoting posts is a pain in the assignment on mobile. On November 30 2016 01:47 LightningStrike wrote:On November 29 2016 12:57 emperorchampion wrote:On November 29 2016 09:34 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.
Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons. Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced. Your awesome bro LS is the one who looks like he has a knife stuck in the butt. Look at his entry: On November 29 2016 07:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey first game since my ban which was like 5-6 months ago? Anyways Onegu's vote on EC seems pretty him joking around but outside of that nothing notable has happened. He felt the need to summarize the 10 posts that were made prior to him posting, and I can't think of another reason why he would precise that it is his first game in a while after the game started other than giving an excuse to his rustiness. That looks forced. Flagged this post, I dun like it. 1) It looks like you're trying to make something out of nothing re: throwing something at LS. 2) It reads like you're smooshing two thoughts together, which makes me think that you had some conclusion in mind and are making the evidence fit that. Requires further investigation. This post and the one after in EC's filter and the response from NU tone wise makes it seem there is a mafia between them. Like something doesn't feel natural in their conversation. On November 30 2016 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:
I here now. Not much has happened. I do think if one of EC or NU was scum it would be NU because he seems a bit opportunistic at times for his push on people (on me and EC) yet at the same he trying to solve the game more than EC. Plus the hidden LS rule that tends to happen: If someone is playing their game with me ever they would try to push me at someway. On January 16 2017 22:19 Rels wrote:
And at the time I didn't what LS scummy. I didn't think he did anything townie The order seems odd cause you say that at the time LS was null, but you put him among the scummier elements. THEN you post reasons for why you would think that he's scummy. The order is not odd, I made that read post after having read his passive posts about the Hapa / HF fight. Then I dug the other game to explain my feeling
But when you found him scummy after noticing his passive behaviour, why do you post this afterwards?
On January 16 2017 22:19 Rels wrote:
And at the time I didn't what LS scummy. I didn't think he did anything townie
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On January 16 2017 09:53 Holyflare wrote:I think hapa can absolutely be mafia. His vivax fight/unvote felt forced especially since in one of his posts his whole vivax criticism is that vivax is posting what's on his mind and it's weak accusations but then says we should be posting everything we can. His "suspicion" on me for what was blatantly troll posts but mimicry of what vivax was saying into nothing further about me (no follow up now I've posted). His drive by comments and non participation into really out of the blue defence based on clear phone auto corrects is really odd when he likes pressure being put on people. His whole push just takes the wind out of my sails and shuts down a discussion avenue. Weird post even if it's what he thinks. + Show Spoiler +but his words are nice and he could just as easily be town but shhhhh that's no fun
Before I proceed to sum up why I think Rels could be mafia along with more questions for him that arose from his posts:
You said at the beginning about me that I made a nice point about Hapa but reached the wrong conclusion.
My point was that his tryhardism felt forced/cramped, and his attack on me was also pretty hefty given it was right at the beginning of the game, he explained why he played like that (just his personal style of getting discussion going).
Then you make an argument that could as well have been mine, yet earlier you said my point was shit, so to say.
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Rels do you still think that Damdred could be mafia for his bad reasons on LS? If so, why?
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On January 16 2017 23:10 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2017 23:04 Vivax wrote:On January 16 2017 09:53 Holyflare wrote:I think hapa can absolutely be mafia. His vivax fight/unvote felt forced especially since in one of his posts his whole vivax criticism is that vivax is posting what's on his mind and it's weak accusations but then says we should be posting everything we can. His "suspicion" on me for what was blatantly troll posts but mimicry of what vivax was saying into nothing further about me (no follow up now I've posted). His drive by comments and non participation into really out of the blue defence based on clear phone auto corrects is really odd when he likes pressure being put on people. His whole push just takes the wind out of my sails and shuts down a discussion avenue. Weird post even if it's what he thinks. + Show Spoiler +but his words are nice and he could just as easily be town but shhhhh that's no fun Before I proceed to sum up why I think Rels could be mafia along with more questions for him that arose from his posts: You said at the beginning about me that I made a nice point about Hapa but reached the wrong conclusion. My point was that his tryhardism felt forced/cramped, and his attack on me was also pretty hefty given it was right at the beginning of the game, he explained why he played like that (just his personal style of getting discussion going). Then you make an argument that could as well have been mine, yet earlier you said my point was shit, so to say. My post about you was entirely sarcasm. I literally said you made a read and that's higher skill than I've seen in most games. Aka everyone else in this forum has been playing like shit. It apparently went over everyone's head. I did like your post about how hapa seemed ready to go and aggressive and I liked that you made it. I liked that point but thought it made him towny whereas you thought the inverse.
I was considering myself if what we saw Hapa doing was a fight/flight reaction. He felt pressured after my observation and the only way out he saw was to scumread me, so to say. That's one possible interpretation I'm still juggling in my mind. Later on when he thought it was over he unscumread me but by doing what he did managed to break free of the defensive successfully.
However I don't know why you think his initial nervousness seemed townie to you, yet his attack on me seemed scummy as for me both kind of fall into the same category/window of events.
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On January 16 2017 23:20 Holyflare wrote:
I didn't read any part of your argument because it was boring. I just looked at your post and saw that it said nice things and looked at the conclusion and saw it didn't say the nice thing I'd like.
I don't think he was nervous and the only reason his push seemed scummy was because it was based on non-points (which he has seemingly retroactively said was fake pressure but after your fight alluded to ACTUALLY having reasons to call you out sooo which is it really?) and continued for far too long. He was also placated by a boring response which I didn't like.
You thought my arguments were boring? That usually involves a pretty huge townread on somebody to think he's boring.
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On January 16 2017 23:28 Holyflare wrote:
I stopped reading the content of the posts after the one where you reached the wrong conclusion because I already made a conclusion on both you and hapa. Your other posts/hapa's posts were walls of irrelevant text to me.
I resumed after skimming and saw hapa's unvote that felt really deflated.
So what you meant by troll post is just that you replicated the way some people play. Okay. But the content is still what you actually thought. I was kind of confused cause now you said that it was your actual opinion and not just some random bs.
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On January 16 2017 23:34 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2017 23:30 Holyflare wrote:
LS what if damdred never posts again?
You gonna be useless till then? I trying to ask Vivax his read on you while I wait for him.
Null, anything else? It's kind of not much to talk about so I was reluctant to answer.
On January 16 2017 23:18 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2017 23:10 Vivax wrote:
Rels do you still think that Damdred could be mafia for his bad reasons on LS? If so, why? not really. I want him to talk about it.
Why did you stop thinking that?
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EPT
