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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 16 2017 16:10 GMT
#321
And can think outside this "must have scumreads to be readable" shit false cancer meta. Or am I wrong? Are you not above that?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 16 2017 16:11 GMT
#322
On January 17 2017 01:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Idk why think Slam thinks Hapa is confirmed town already when he clearly isn't.


LS what are your reads?
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 16 2017 16:11 GMT
#323
On January 17 2017 01:10 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 17 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 16 2017 21:39 Rels wrote:
Slam any feelings about the game ?

Ya!

HF is looking like a badass by running around discrediting people till he lynches them, and if they was town it's their fault for being bad, if scum it is because he is badass

Hapa running around being high tier, and generally sheepable and conftown IMSO.

Damdred and LS saying stuff that I think people putting too much stock in, u coming in here and being generally wise but also making too much of HF and Hapa, with regard to H8 HF just because he sez stuff that is aggro


How am I sheepable when the only public read I've stuck with is a town read on Vivax?

Because for once, you are someone who has used reason over emotion here.

What do you mean by "for once" ?

I mean for the first time I have observed on this site since my returning.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 16 2017 16:12 GMT
#324
On January 17 2017 01:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Idk why think Slam thinks Hapa is confirmed town already when he clearly isn't.

^^^^ popular opinion fTw!

Because if HOW he formed the read, please open your eyes people before I come back
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 16 2017 16:12 GMT
#325
On January 17 2017 01:07 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:02 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 16 2017 05:39 Damdred wrote:
On January 16 2017 05:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 16 2017 05:16 Damdred wrote:
Here is the thing hapa I already have a pretty solid read on me currently. And that he is probably town at this point moving forward.

How did I get here? Why thank you for asking!

You see it starts with me having bad reasons that are correct. LS makes a meta point about my play and how I react to him, ( ie of I legit push him as scum and he flips town im scum as I read him like 100%). Town point.

States things that are clear as day at points even jokes. Town point (really lacks much of this as scum).

And seems to be able to give ok if not lower thought process on current events. So he's just town.

And that went on longer than I wanted


Okay.

Is this a case you would make on other townies, or is there something meta-specific here about LS? How confident is this read, scale of 1 to 10?



It's something meta specific to ls. He's incredibly lazy, isn't really confrontational and lays super low as scum.

He can get past these of his partner is someone he lives and pushed his buttons and rides him hard.

I would give it an 7-8 atm. Probably halfway through the day I can lock in depending. But some nice meta things on ls.


Damdred, update me on this. Right now, I'm seeing the bolded from LS.


I actually see differently after I looked at his filter and read the thread. Yeah hes not super in tune yet with his reads being present but hes going out of his way to find examples of previous games where certain situations have occured.

Mainly dealing with me, but I think its a good sign that he is doing things like that. I think it shows the opposite of being lazy, not many people would bother to comb throughg ames to find examples of what hes talking about.

Wouldn't lynch today at all, but i think hes pretty towny currently.


I think many people would. Is that just a standard for LS?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 16 2017 16:12 GMT
#326
On January 17 2017 01:11 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:10 Rels wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 17 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 16 2017 21:39 Rels wrote:
Slam any feelings about the game ?

Ya!

HF is looking like a badass by running around discrediting people till he lynches them, and if they was town it's their fault for being bad, if scum it is because he is badass

Hapa running around being high tier, and generally sheepable and conftown IMSO.

Damdred and LS saying stuff that I think people putting too much stock in, u coming in here and being generally wise but also making too much of HF and Hapa, with regard to H8 HF just because he sez stuff that is aggro


How am I sheepable when the only public read I've stuck with is a town read on Vivax?

Because for once, you are someone who has used reason over emotion here.

What do you mean by "for once" ?

I mean for the first time I have observed on this site since my returning.


Hi slam, brown is the color of the earth and something we all must cherish and love.

Is the color green as important as brown to you? as it is the color of life and growth?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:13 GMT
#327
On January 17 2017 01:07 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:02 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 16 2017 05:39 Damdred wrote:
On January 16 2017 05:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 16 2017 05:16 Damdred wrote:
Here is the thing hapa I already have a pretty solid read on me currently. And that he is probably town at this point moving forward.

How did I get here? Why thank you for asking!

You see it starts with me having bad reasons that are correct. LS makes a meta point about my play and how I react to him, ( ie of I legit push him as scum and he flips town im scum as I read him like 100%). Town point.

States things that are clear as day at points even jokes. Town point (really lacks much of this as scum).

And seems to be able to give ok if not lower thought process on current events. So he's just town.

And that went on longer than I wanted


Okay.

Is this a case you would make on other townies, or is there something meta-specific here about LS? How confident is this read, scale of 1 to 10?



It's something meta specific to ls. He's incredibly lazy, isn't really confrontational and lays super low as scum.

He can get past these of his partner is someone he lives and pushed his buttons and rides him hard.

I would give it an 7-8 atm. Probably halfway through the day I can lock in depending. But some nice meta things on ls.


Damdred, update me on this. Right now, I'm seeing the bolded from LS.


I actually see differently after I looked at his filter and read the thread. Yeah hes not super in tune yet with his reads being present but hes going out of his way to find examples of previous games where certain situations have occured.

Mainly dealing with me, but I think its a good sign that he is doing things like that. I think it shows the opposite of being lazy, not many people would bother to comb throughg ames to find examples of what hes talking about.

Wouldn't lynch today at all, but i think hes pretty towny currently.

I'm not convinced by that. LS was specifically asked for games where you pushed his mislynched as scum, so him listing them is not "not being lazy".
Actually the fact that he took the time to dig up 3 games might be a good point.
meh IDK
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 16 2017 16:14 GMT
#328
On January 17 2017 01:12 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:07 Damdred wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:02 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 16 2017 05:39 Damdred wrote:
On January 16 2017 05:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 16 2017 05:16 Damdred wrote:
Here is the thing hapa I already have a pretty solid read on me currently. And that he is probably town at this point moving forward.

How did I get here? Why thank you for asking!

You see it starts with me having bad reasons that are correct. LS makes a meta point about my play and how I react to him, ( ie of I legit push him as scum and he flips town im scum as I read him like 100%). Town point.

States things that are clear as day at points even jokes. Town point (really lacks much of this as scum).

And seems to be able to give ok if not lower thought process on current events. So he's just town.

And that went on longer than I wanted


Okay.

Is this a case you would make on other townies, or is there something meta-specific here about LS? How confident is this read, scale of 1 to 10?



It's something meta specific to ls. He's incredibly lazy, isn't really confrontational and lays super low as scum.

He can get past these of his partner is someone he lives and pushed his buttons and rides him hard.

I would give it an 7-8 atm. Probably halfway through the day I can lock in depending. But some nice meta things on ls.


Damdred, update me on this. Right now, I'm seeing the bolded from LS.


I actually see differently after I looked at his filter and read the thread. Yeah hes not super in tune yet with his reads being present but hes going out of his way to find examples of previous games where certain situations have occured.

Mainly dealing with me, but I think its a good sign that he is doing things like that. I think it shows the opposite of being lazy, not many people would bother to comb throughg ames to find examples of what hes talking about.

Wouldn't lynch today at all, but i think hes pretty towny currently.


I think many people would. Is that just a standard for LS?


Yep LS digs up meta hes probably town, he just says it does nothing probably scum.

Overall LS has a hard time breaking meta besides some random anger outbursts at points meh. And hes more helpful as town.

Really its kinda a crappy read but its sort of just right.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:14 GMT
#329
On January 17 2017 01:11 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:10 Rels wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 17 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 16 2017 21:39 Rels wrote:
Slam any feelings about the game ?

Ya!

HF is looking like a badass by running around discrediting people till he lynches them, and if they was town it's their fault for being bad, if scum it is because he is badass

Hapa running around being high tier, and generally sheepable and conftown IMSO.

Damdred and LS saying stuff that I think people putting too much stock in, u coming in here and being generally wise but also making too much of HF and Hapa, with regard to H8 HF just because he sez stuff that is aggro


How am I sheepable when the only public read I've stuck with is a town read on Vivax?

Because for once, you are someone who has used reason over emotion here.

What do you mean by "for once" ?

I mean for the first time I have observed on this site since my returning.

I'm calling bullshit on that. I used very logical arguments last game and you still correctly call me scum 'cause I was boring.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 16 2017 16:15 GMT
#330
On January 17 2017 01:11 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Idk why think Slam thinks Hapa is confirmed town already when he clearly isn't.


LS what are your reads?

Town
Damdred: Meta and actions suggest more likely town than scum.
Vivax: He had good pressure on Hapa and then later pressuring Rels.
Null:
HF: Easily could do those stuff from both alignment.
Rels: Need more posts from him to get better read on him.
Slam: Need him to explain his Hapa read a bit more.
Onegu: Only made 2 posts need more posts from him period.
Hapa: Would be my scum in the fight between him and HF didn't like the way he had shut down HF's push on you. But is okay but still questionable.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 16 2017 16:17 GMT
#331
We'll have to wait for Slam to get back I guess. Entrance doesn't look great.

New line of questioning. Rels - when you were reading the thread this morning, at what point in your readthrough did you start reading LS as mafia?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 16 2017 16:17 GMT
#332
Could move Hapa more of a scumread than null but only a slight lean though.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
January 16 2017 16:18 GMT
#333
I'm trying to get a good grasp on what exactly made me so susp of Rels but it's making my head fume, so I'll be lazy for once and sum it up quickly without quoting.

1. His two statements proven as incorrect regarding Damdreds meta read lazy to me and sound too sure of himself. He could have at least asked Damdred or LS for a fact check. That he didn't displays that he absolutely wanted his posts to look justified. But I can't call this slamdunk scum trait I think. Sometimes townies are stubborn too. I'll call it scummy with small offchance of lazy town.

2. His read on LS during the conversation is really hard to follow. Once he says he has no townie posts, once he says he said something scummy, once he says he didn't think LS was scummy at the beginning, once he puts him among the two scummiest people in his list. It makes it look at times like he changed his read depending on what I asked.

3. I forgot what this was but if I remember I'll post it :>
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:18 GMT
#334
On January 17 2017 01:17 Hapahauli wrote:
We'll have to wait for Slam to get back I guess. Entrance doesn't look great.

New line of questioning. Rels - when you were reading the thread this morning, at what point in your readthrough did you start reading LS as mafia?

the end
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 16 2017 16:19 GMT
#335
?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:20 GMT
#336
Slam, your reason to call Hapa conf town is horrible. It doesn't make sense. Even in the weird way you post. Actually, especially with the weird way you post. Someone using logic doesn't mean they're town. That's actually the opposite
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:21 GMT
#337
On January 17 2017 01:19 Hapahauli wrote:
?

is this for me ? If you want me to be more specific, just before finishing catching up. I didn't like his answer to Damdred
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
January 16 2017 16:23 GMT
#338
Slam who do you want to lynch?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 16 2017 16:23 GMT
#339
It was for you Rels - what do you mean by "the end"?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:23 GMT
#340
Vivax you are fucking dumb. Reread everything. Then if it's not clear I'll do a post by post defense where I'll explain exactly what's my LS read. But that is so useless that I don't want to waste time doing that. The basic is that I ddin't find LS scummy when I read that Damred post, then I found LS scummy when I finished reading the thread. The end.
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