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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:24 GMT
#341
On January 17 2017 01:23 Hapahauli wrote:
It was for you Rels - what do you mean by "the end"?

"at waht point in your catchup ?" "the end"
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:26 GMT
#342
I think I'm OK with LS. Him taking the time to dig up games that he didn't need to + showing up when being attacked immediately instead of waiting a little bit to see what happens is townie. I'm also OK with Damdred probably.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 16 2017 16:27 GMT
#343
Oh I'm retarded. Sorry. Thanks.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:28 GMT
#344
yeah Slam is the lynch
##vote Alakaslam
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 16 2017 16:28 GMT
#345
On January 17 2017 01:23 Rels wrote:
Vivax you are fucking dumb. Reread everything. Then if it's not clear I'll do a post by post defense where I'll explain exactly what's my LS read. But that is so useless that I don't want to waste time doing that. The basic is that I ddin't find LS scummy when I read that Damred post, then I found LS scummy when I finished reading the thread. The end.


Give me a break dude. If you post stuff as you catch on while having a conversation then one never has an idea if you're changing opinion cause you're being confronted with accusations or cause you're absorbing new content. But then it's your fault for posting too early not mine for finding it scummy.

I also reserve the right to lynch you without being called fucking dumb. I don't have any beef with you I just think you're not being townie.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:30 GMT
#346
On January 17 2017 01:28 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:23 Rels wrote:
Vivax you are fucking dumb. Reread everything. Then if it's not clear I'll do a post by post defense where I'll explain exactly what's my LS read. But that is so useless that I don't want to waste time doing that. The basic is that I ddin't find LS scummy when I read that Damred post, then I found LS scummy when I finished reading the thread. The end.


Give me a break dude. If you post stuff as you catch on while having a conversation then one never has an idea if you're changing opinion cause you're being confronted with accusations or cause you're absorbing new content. But then it's your fault for posting too early not mine for finding it scummy.

I also reserve the right to lynch you without being called fucking dumb. I don't have any beef with you I just think you're not being townie.

Well now that you know the fucking facts you can stop being a pain in the ass
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 16 2017 16:33 GMT
#347
On January 17 2017 01:30 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:28 Vivax wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:23 Rels wrote:
Vivax you are fucking dumb. Reread everything. Then if it's not clear I'll do a post by post defense where I'll explain exactly what's my LS read. But that is so useless that I don't want to waste time doing that. The basic is that I ddin't find LS scummy when I read that Damred post, then I found LS scummy when I finished reading the thread. The end.


Give me a break dude. If you post stuff as you catch on while having a conversation then one never has an idea if you're changing opinion cause you're being confronted with accusations or cause you're absorbing new content. But then it's your fault for posting too early not mine for finding it scummy.

I also reserve the right to lynch you without being called fucking dumb. I don't have any beef with you I just think you're not being townie.

Well now that you know the fucking facts you can stop being a pain in the ass


By facts you mean the wrong meta information you have spewed with complete confidence to excuse your reads not making sense?
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 16 2017 16:34 GMT
#348
On January 17 2017 01:14 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:11 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:10 Rels wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 17 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 16 2017 21:39 Rels wrote:
Slam any feelings about the game ?

Ya!

HF is looking like a badass by running around discrediting people till he lynches them, and if they was town it's their fault for being bad, if scum it is because he is badass

Hapa running around being high tier, and generally sheepable and conftown IMSO.

Damdred and LS saying stuff that I think people putting too much stock in, u coming in here and being generally wise but also making too much of HF and Hapa, with regard to H8 HF just because he sez stuff that is aggro


How am I sheepable when the only public read I've stuck with is a town read on Vivax?

Because for once, you are someone who has used reason over emotion here.

What do you mean by "for once" ?

I mean for the first time I have observed on this site since my returning.

I'm calling bullshit on that. I used very logical arguments last game and you still correctly call me scum 'cause I was boring.

Was this chezinu?

I don't remember doing this. If it was before the island, well, 3/4 year can do a lot to change someone.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:35 GMT
#349
On January 17 2017 01:33 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:30 Rels wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:28 Vivax wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:23 Rels wrote:
Vivax you are fucking dumb. Reread everything. Then if it's not clear I'll do a post by post defense where I'll explain exactly what's my LS read. But that is so useless that I don't want to waste time doing that. The basic is that I ddin't find LS scummy when I read that Damred post, then I found LS scummy when I finished reading the thread. The end.


Give me a break dude. If you post stuff as you catch on while having a conversation then one never has an idea if you're changing opinion cause you're being confronted with accusations or cause you're absorbing new content. But then it's your fault for posting too early not mine for finding it scummy.

I also reserve the right to lynch you without being called fucking dumb. I don't have any beef with you I just think you're not being townie.

Well now that you know the fucking facts you can stop being a pain in the ass


By facts you mean the wrong meta information you have spewed with complete confidence to excuse your reads not making sense?

Sure. If that makes me scum in your head so go ahead
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 16 2017 16:35 GMT
#350
On January 17 2017 01:17 Hapahauli wrote:
We'll have to wait for Slam to get back I guess. Entrance doesn't look great.

New line of questioning. Rels - when you were reading the thread this morning, at what point in your readthrough did you start reading LS as mafia?

I am here for a bit as Ice has delayed my sup
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:36 GMT
#351
On January 17 2017 01:34 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:14 Rels wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:11 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:10 Rels wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 17 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 16 2017 21:39 Rels wrote:
Slam any feelings about the game ?

Ya!

HF is looking like a badass by running around discrediting people till he lynches them, and if they was town it's their fault for being bad, if scum it is because he is badass

Hapa running around being high tier, and generally sheepable and conftown IMSO.

Damdred and LS saying stuff that I think people putting too much stock in, u coming in here and being generally wise but also making too much of HF and Hapa, with regard to H8 HF just because he sez stuff that is aggro


How am I sheepable when the only public read I've stuck with is a town read on Vivax?

Because for once, you are someone who has used reason over emotion here.

What do you mean by "for once" ?

I mean for the first time I have observed on this site since my returning.

I'm calling bullshit on that. I used very logical arguments last game and you still correctly call me scum 'cause I was boring.

Was this chezinu?

I don't remember doing this. If it was before the island, well, 3/4 year can do a lot to change someone.

On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

On December 20 2016 19:15 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 19:09 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

What does that mean ? What am I unsure wrongly about ?

some of your stances on disformation, some of your ideas regarding who would be scum why, that kind of thing.

I find it odd though, what could I have meant? I find that I am really unclear, even in IRL with people. That probably explains lots of people's confusion with me on here. I am just a really bad communicator.

Like I would assume people would get what I meant from what I said, that they'd see the subtleties I intended rather than others. So I wouldn't think the subtleties through

like what could I even mean

Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 16 2017 16:37 GMT
#352
On January 17 2017 01:20 Rels wrote:
Slam, your reason to call Hapa conf town is horrible. It doesn't make sense. Even in the weird way you post. Actually, especially with the weird way you post. Someone using logic doesn't mean they're town. That's actually the opposite

If people said this shit about you and ignored you when you finally form a solid read on chezinu, you'd never change ever sure.

You'd never get pissed sure, even if they shit on you post game. Sure.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 16 2017 16:38 GMT
#353
I need an explanation for some of your posts last night Damdred.

1)
On January 16 2017 09:43 Damdred wrote:
Eh I'm partial to people defending me tbh. I think it's it's non point though both ways as I have no reason to lie about mistaking something.

Maybe hapa could be scum but I sont think it makes him scum here.

2)
On January 16 2017 09:47 Damdred wrote:
Eh if like to talk some actually hf.

I don't like hapa post for a couple reasons. One I don't want to talk about as you kinda covered it.

But he soft defended me and I hate soft defends. Like I think its a great mafia thing to do asbit leaves his options open which he does.

3)
On January 16 2017 10:14 Damdred wrote:
Ok fine with family time so I can make an actual good response.

Vivax was pretty t owny from his first few posts (to this point). That was why the fight originally felt a bit strange and off to me, it seemed like hapa was going after vivax for no real reason except to have things to do

I didn't question the unvotw because I felt like vivax was only getting more towny aas it went. (Vivax only real meh moment was his read on you). So it felt like at the time hapa just realized vivax was making sense to me.

I think outside that hapa should tell us how he reads vivax now. And how he actually reads the interchange between hf and myself.


You make all three of these posts last night basically back to back to back.
- In post 1, you say you are "partial" to people defending you, which implies that you liked my defense of you. You ultimately conclude that my posting was at the very least non-alignment indicative.
- In post 2, merely 4 minutes later, this you call me mafia for the same reasons as in post 1.
- In post 3, 20 minutes later, you talk about me a ton, but waffle between calling my actions scummy and calling them excusable.

I don't understand this train of thought at all.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 16 2017 16:38 GMT
#354
On January 17 2017 01:36 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:34 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:14 Rels wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:11 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:10 Rels wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 17 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 16 2017 21:39 Rels wrote:
Slam any feelings about the game ?

Ya!

HF is looking like a badass by running around discrediting people till he lynches them, and if they was town it's their fault for being bad, if scum it is because he is badass

Hapa running around being high tier, and generally sheepable and conftown IMSO.

Damdred and LS saying stuff that I think people putting too much stock in, u coming in here and being generally wise but also making too much of HF and Hapa, with regard to H8 HF just because he sez stuff that is aggro


How am I sheepable when the only public read I've stuck with is a town read on Vivax?

Because for once, you are someone who has used reason over emotion here.

What do you mean by "for once" ?

I mean for the first time I have observed on this site since my returning.

I'm calling bullshit on that. I used very logical arguments last game and you still correctly call me scum 'cause I was boring.

Was this chezinu?

I don't remember doing this. If it was before the island, well, 3/4 year can do a lot to change someone.

Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 19:15 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:09 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

What does that mean ? What am I unsure wrongly about ?

some of your stances on disformation, some of your ideas regarding who would be scum why, that kind of thing.

I find it odd though, what could I have meant? I find that I am really unclear, even in IRL with people. That probably explains lots of people's confusion with me on here. I am just a really bad communicator.

Like I would assume people would get what I meant from what I said, that they'd see the subtleties I intended rather than others. So I wouldn't think the subtleties through

like what could I even mean


I stand corrected, and return that it was mid/late game, with a different roster, not d1 with Hapa. HF was in that game though
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:40 GMT
#355
On January 17 2017 01:38 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:36 Rels wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:34 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:14 Rels wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:11 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:10 Rels wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 17 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 16 2017 21:39 Rels wrote:
Slam any feelings about the game ?

Ya!

HF is looking like a badass by running around discrediting people till he lynches them, and if they was town it's their fault for being bad, if scum it is because he is badass

Hapa running around being high tier, and generally sheepable and conftown IMSO.

Damdred and LS saying stuff that I think people putting too much stock in, u coming in here and being generally wise but also making too much of HF and Hapa, with regard to H8 HF just because he sez stuff that is aggro


How am I sheepable when the only public read I've stuck with is a town read on Vivax?

Because for once, you are someone who has used reason over emotion here.

What do you mean by "for once" ?

I mean for the first time I have observed on this site since my returning.

I'm calling bullshit on that. I used very logical arguments last game and you still correctly call me scum 'cause I was boring.

Was this chezinu?

I don't remember doing this. If it was before the island, well, 3/4 year can do a lot to change someone.

On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

On December 20 2016 19:15 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:09 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

What does that mean ? What am I unsure wrongly about ?

some of your stances on disformation, some of your ideas regarding who would be scum why, that kind of thing.

I find it odd though, what could I have meant? I find that I am really unclear, even in IRL with people. That probably explains lots of people's confusion with me on here. I am just a really bad communicator.

Like I would assume people would get what I meant from what I said, that they'd see the subtleties I intended rather than others. So I wouldn't think the subtleties through

like what could I even mean


I stand corrected, and return that it was mid/late game, with a different roster, not d1 with Hapa. HF was in that game though

this makes some kind of weird sense. Do you have an history with Hapa ?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 16 2017 16:41 GMT
#356
@ Slam

On January 17 2017 01:07 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 17 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 16 2017 21:39 Rels wrote:
Slam any feelings about the game ?

Ya!

HF is looking like a badass by running around discrediting people till he lynches them, and if they was town it's their fault for being bad, if scum it is because he is badass

Hapa running around being high tier, and generally sheepable and conftown IMSO.

Damdred and LS saying stuff that I think people putting too much stock in, u coming in here and being generally wise but also making too much of HF and Hapa, with regard to H8 HF just because he sez stuff that is aggro


How am I sheepable when the only public read I've stuck with is a town read on Vivax?

Because for once, you are someone who has used reason over emotion here.


This is just a generalization. What posts in particular involve "reason"? Holyflare and Vivax posted a ton too - is there not "reason over emotion" in their filters?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 16 2017 16:46 GMT
#357
@ Vivax

I'm not following the Rels stuff, particularly point #2 in your summary. Can you go in more detail?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 16 2017 16:51 GMT
#358
On January 17 2017 01:38 Hapahauli wrote:
I need an explanation for some of your posts last night Damdred.

1)
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 09:43 Damdred wrote:
Eh I'm partial to people defending me tbh. I think it's it's non point though both ways as I have no reason to lie about mistaking something.

Maybe hapa could be scum but I sont think it makes him scum here.

2)
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 09:47 Damdred wrote:
Eh if like to talk some actually hf.

I don't like hapa post for a couple reasons. One I don't want to talk about as you kinda covered it.

But he soft defended me and I hate soft defends. Like I think its a great mafia thing to do asbit leaves his options open which he does.

3)
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 10:14 Damdred wrote:
Ok fine with family time so I can make an actual good response.

Vivax was pretty t owny from his first few posts (to this point). That was why the fight originally felt a bit strange and off to me, it seemed like hapa was going after vivax for no real reason except to have things to do

I didn't question the unvotw because I felt like vivax was only getting more towny aas it went. (Vivax only real meh moment was his read on you). So it felt like at the time hapa just realized vivax was making sense to me.

I think outside that hapa should tell us how he reads vivax now. And how he actually reads the interchange between hf and myself.


You make all three of these posts last night basically back to back to back.
- In post 1, you say you are "partial" to people defending you, which implies that you liked my defense of you. You ultimately conclude that my posting was at the very least non-alignment indicative.
- In post 2, merely 4 minutes later, this you call me mafia for the same reasons as in post 1.
- In post 3, 20 minutes later, you talk about me a ton, but waffle between calling my actions scummy and calling them excusable.

I don't understand this train of thought at all.


Yeah I am partial to people defending me, I have a soft spot. But I reread your post and it wasn't really a defense in your conclusions it was more of a "soft" defense of me as you concluded I still could be scum. And I was like meh I don't like this so much after all, then I talk about my feelings in post three.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 16:55 GMT
#359
On January 17 2017 01:38 Hapahauli wrote:

You make all three of these posts last night basically back to back to back.
- In post 1, you say you are "partial" to people defending you, which implies that you liked my defense of you. You ultimately conclude that my posting was at the very least non-alignment indicative.
- In post 2, merely 4 minutes later, this you call me mafia for the same reasons as in post 1.
- In post 3, 20 minutes later, you talk about me a ton, but waffle between calling my actions scummy and calling them excusable.

I don't understand this train of thought at all.

Don't see how that's scummy. Townie being unsure, especially early game, is not weird
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 16 2017 16:55 GMT
#360
I don't know where you stand on anything Damdred, except for LS.
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