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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 16 2017 14:22 GMT
#281
I can't use filters at work and now lunch is over so whatever
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 16 2017 14:23 GMT
#282
Vivax what's your read on HF atm?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 16 2017 14:25 GMT
#283
On January 16 2017 23:20 Holyflare wrote:
I didn't read any part of your argument because it was boring. I just looked at your post and saw that it said nice things and looked at the conclusion and saw it didn't say the nice thing I'd like.

I don't think he was nervous and the only reason his push seemed scummy was because it was based on non-points (which he has seemingly retroactively said was fake pressure but after your fight alluded to ACTUALLY having reasons to call you out sooo which is it really?) and continued for far too long. He was also placated by a boring response which I didn't like.



You thought my arguments were boring? That usually involves a pretty huge townread on somebody to think he's boring.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 16 2017 14:28 GMT
#284
I stopped reading the content of the posts after the one where you reached the wrong conclusion because I already made a conclusion on both you and hapa. Your other posts/hapa's posts were walls of irrelevant text to me.

I resumed after skimming and saw hapa's unvote that felt really deflated.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 16 2017 14:30 GMT
#285
LS what if damdred never posts again?

[image loading]

You gonna be useless till then?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 16 2017 14:34 GMT
#286
On January 16 2017 23:30 Holyflare wrote:
LS what if damdred never posts again?

[image loading]

You gonna be useless till then?

I trying to ask Vivax his read on you while I wait for him.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 16 2017 14:34 GMT
#287
On January 16 2017 23:28 Holyflare wrote:
I stopped reading the content of the posts after the one where you reached the wrong conclusion because I already made a conclusion on both you and hapa. Your other posts/hapa's posts were walls of irrelevant text to me.

I resumed after skimming and saw hapa's unvote that felt really deflated.


So what you meant by troll post is just that you replicated the way some people play. Okay. But the content is still what you actually thought. I was kind of confused cause now you said that it was your actual opinion and not just some random bs.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 16 2017 14:35 GMT
#288
On January 16 2017 23:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Vivax what's your read on HF atm?

May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 16 2017 14:38 GMT
#289
On January 16 2017 23:34 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 23:28 Holyflare wrote:
I stopped reading the content of the posts after the one where you reached the wrong conclusion because I already made a conclusion on both you and hapa. Your other posts/hapa's posts were walls of irrelevant text to me.

I resumed after skimming and saw hapa's unvote that felt really deflated.


So what you meant by troll post is just that you replicated the way some people play. Okay. But the content is still what you actually thought. I was kind of confused cause now you said that it was your actual opinion and not just some random bs.


I am also confused.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 16 2017 14:39 GMT
#290
On January 16 2017 04:07 Holyflare wrote:
I like that vivax drew his conclusion, I like that hapa called it weird because I felt the same.

That is all.


This is a real post.



On January 16 2017 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 04:11 Hapahauli wrote:
Your attempt at diplomacy bores me.

Why do you like that Vivax drew his conclusion if you thought it was weird?


I liked the process of reading what you were doing and making a remark on how it affected his thought on you. It was remarkably high level compared to what I'm used to seeing recently.


Clear troll post.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 16 2017 14:39 GMT
#291
On January 16 2017 23:34 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 23:30 Holyflare wrote:
LS what if damdred never posts again?

You gonna be useless till then?

I trying to ask Vivax his read on you while I wait for him.


Null, anything else? It's kind of not much to talk about so I was reluctant to answer.

On January 16 2017 23:18 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 23:10 Vivax wrote:
Rels do you still think that Damdred could be mafia for his bad reasons on LS? If so, why?

not really. I want him to talk about it.


Why did you stop thinking that?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 16 2017 14:40 GMT
#292
I really really think something is foul with Rels reads, I hope more people will look into that.

Slam and 1gu...ha, ha, haaaaa-
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 16 2017 14:43 GMT
#293
Waste of time tbh.

Hapa iffy
Slam iffy
Damdred still not vindicated but don't hate after seeing the light
Rels pending but didn't actually mind his posts
Vivax cool
Ls mediocre but his damdred lust seems legitimate for now so dunno what to make of it
Bm who?
Onegu iffy content promise into nothing

Shape up scrubs


Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 16 2017 14:44 GMT
#294
I'm all for policy lynching ppl who waste my time signing up to a championship game to do nothing tbh. I feel bloodlust.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 16 2017 14:47 GMT
#295
On January 16 2017 23:44 Holyflare wrote:
I'm all for policy lynching ppl who waste my time signing up to a championship game to do nothing tbh. I feel bloodlust.


What color was your diarrhea today?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 16 2017 14:54 GMT
#296
Wow I have Crohn's Disease and this is actually offensive.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 16 2017 15:08 GMT
#297
On January 16 2017 23:39 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 23:34 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 23:30 Holyflare wrote:
LS what if damdred never posts again?

You gonna be useless till then?

I trying to ask Vivax his read on you while I wait for him.


Null, anything else? It's kind of not much to talk about so I was reluctant to answer.

Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 23:18 Rels wrote:
On January 16 2017 23:10 Vivax wrote:
Rels do you still think that Damdred could be mafia for his bad reasons on LS? If so, why?

not really. I want him to talk about it.


Why did you stop thinking that?

Okay why is it null? Just curious that's all.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 15:16 GMT
#298
On January 16 2017 23:39 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 23:18 Rels wrote:
On January 16 2017 23:10 Vivax wrote:
Rels do you still think that Damdred could be mafia for his bad reasons on LS? If so, why?

not really. I want him to talk about it.


Why did you stop thinking that?

Cause he pressured LS into giving an explanation. When I was prepared to see him talking to LS like a conf town.
+ now that apaprently he never townread LS that early as scum, my meta stuff about scum!Damdred hard townreading LS to ride his meta read and pocket him is out.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 16 2017 15:26 GMT
#299
On January 16 2017 05:25 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 05:14 Vivax wrote:
You're missing my point.

"X post is scummy" isn't absolute reasoning. I don't care about what the reasoning is. The point is that the statement is direct. The statement is clear. It has a straightforward objective. Town have no reason to hide, and every reason to communicate clearly about their intentions.

There's very little point in announcing "this post may be suspicious". It's indirect. It is unclear. What exactly is the objective of announcing something you aren't sure about?


Town has no reason to hide et cetera is just an empty phrase in this context. A truism that everyone will agree with while unrelated to the context, as I hid nothing. Smells a bit like a rhetorical trick where you mix statements nobody can disagree with into the rest of the (debatable) argumentation.

My objective was to point out your attitude in the thread, which I did. And argue why it could come from scum, which I did.

But my objective is also to not make a decision too early based on too little. And I believe it is too little on its own to outright call you scum for it.

So I still don't know what point you are trying to make besides that I should reason in absolutes as town. Is the point now that I tried to hide something?


No additional points. That's fair.

##Unvote

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On January 16 2017 04:28 Hapahauli wrote:
I don't think the meta point would have led to any good conversation. I'd rather you address the part of your post I considered scummy than something I considered more non-alignment indicative.


Your meta question just seems out of place to me. I literally have no idea why I should apply meta when I'm just having a conversation with someone scumreading me. So I'm wondering how it made it into your argumentation, which I still don't see explained. Maybe now you think that it's not important. But it's important to know what you were thinking at the time that you wrote that.


At the exact moment I posted the meta thing, my though process was "why is Vivax using a thought process that I only really have as town to call me suspicious?" Which morphed into... "wait... is Vivax even calling me suspicious", and then followed "huh. what is even the point of that post?"

I post what I think and refine my arguments over time. When I posted my followup vote, I thought the last two statements made for a better case than the first, since the first is just a very biased viewpoint of my own meta.



The Vivax fight was absolutely forced. I'd 100000x force a fight while I'm around than just banter about pointless things.


Hapa is the reasoning you gave to vivax in the first quote all bull shit made up reasons then? This second quote implies they are.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 16 2017 15:36 GMT
#300
Morning. Good timing.

Not all "bull shit", but certainly exaggerated. I took something that I thought was scummy (but not necessary lynchable) and played it up to get a reaction from Vivax.

The reasons I listed are accurate. But the reason why I reacted in the way I reacted (vote, tunnel, etc) was because it was early game and I wanted to bait a reaction. I would have reacted very differently if that came up... now for example.

"Forced" = "Bullshit"
We are clearly defining the former differently.
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