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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 16 2017 13:58 GMT
#261
But if you find my push on damdred nitpicky (please explain how) and hapa stopped a push you didn't like then why is it odd and why does that implicate that it's a mafia/town situation?

I feel like you've just copied a sentence about what I posted in regards to hapa and then didn't bother to actually make a conclusion and are making some weird statements.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 13:58 GMT
#262
On January 16 2017 22:52 Rels wrote:
I think you also had the most hilarious post I've ever read in that agme

Found it:
On September 22 2015 06:11 Vivax wrote:
This is the first time I read some dude on TL presenting the excuse for not playing "Nope sorry I said I would play but then I decided to fuck for like 17 hours"

=D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 16 2017 14:00 GMT
#263
I'm seeing the posts that rels quoted from previous game where I called you out for the exact same thing as this game but in that game you backed it up.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 14:01 GMT
#264
On January 16 2017 22:55 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 22:50 Vivax wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh and also another game where you were his scummate Rels: Season of the Witch:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494436-season-of-the-witch-2?user=Damdred
Granted he tried to fake a red check on me at EoD to lynch me but failed.


the plot thickens

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?user=Damdred Another gem filter that I had linked there about me vs Damdred(I wasn't scum).

this is actually great info. Did Damdred ever hard townread you when he was scum and you were town ?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 16 2017 14:03 GMT
#265
On January 16 2017 22:58 Holyflare wrote:
But if you find my push on damdred nitpicky (please explain how) and hapa stopped a push you didn't like then why is it odd and why does that implicate that it's a mafia/town situation?

I feel like you've just copied a sentence about what I posted in regards to hapa and then didn't bother to actually make a conclusion and are making some weird statements.

Your push was nicpicky was because it took very few thnigs from what Damdred actually did and picked on very things that doesn't really matter to much.
My conclusion was that it most likely TvS between you and Hapa but idk who would be scum though >.< I need to flesh things out as soon I talk to Damdred to see where he stands on it and compare to how I feel about it.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22423 Posts
January 16 2017 14:04 GMT
#266
On January 16 2017 09:53 Holyflare wrote:
I think hapa can absolutely be mafia.

His vivax fight/unvote felt forced especially since in one of his posts his whole vivax criticism is that vivax is posting what's on his mind and it's weak accusations but then says we should be posting everything we can.

His "suspicion" on me for what was blatantly troll posts but mimicry of what vivax was saying into nothing further about me (no follow up now I've posted).

His drive by comments and non participation into really out of the blue defence based on clear phone auto corrects is really odd when he likes pressure being put on people. His whole push just takes the wind out of my sails and shuts down a discussion avenue. Weird post even if it's what he thinks.

+ Show Spoiler +
but his words are nice and he could just as easily be town but shhhhh that's no fun


Before I proceed to sum up why I think Rels could be mafia along with more questions for him that arose from his posts:

You said at the beginning about me that I made a nice point about Hapa but reached the wrong conclusion.
My point was that his tryhardism felt forced/cramped, and his attack on me was also pretty hefty given it was right at the beginning of the game, he explained why he played like that (just his personal style of getting discussion going).

Then you make an argument that could as well have been mine, yet earlier you said my point was shit, so to say.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 16 2017 14:04 GMT
#267
On January 16 2017 23:01 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 22:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:50 Vivax wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh and also another game where you were his scummate Rels: Season of the Witch:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494436-season-of-the-witch-2?user=Damdred
Granted he tried to fake a red check on me at EoD to lynch me but failed.


the plot thickens

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?user=Damdred Another gem filter that I had linked there about me vs Damdred(I wasn't scum).

this is actually great info. Did Damdred ever hard townread you when he was scum and you were town ?

Nope.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 16 2017 14:05 GMT
#268
Damdred if you come back can you tell me your thoughts on HF vs Hapa please?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 14:07 GMT
#269
On January 16 2017 09:47 Damdred wrote:
Eh if like to talk some actually hf.

I don't like hapa post for a couple reasons. One I don't want to talk about as you kinda covered it.

But he soft defended me and I hate soft defends. Like I think its a great mafia thing to do asbit leaves his options open which he does.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 16 2017 14:10 GMT
#270
On January 16 2017 23:04 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 09:53 Holyflare wrote:
I think hapa can absolutely be mafia.

His vivax fight/unvote felt forced especially since in one of his posts his whole vivax criticism is that vivax is posting what's on his mind and it's weak accusations but then says we should be posting everything we can.

His "suspicion" on me for what was blatantly troll posts but mimicry of what vivax was saying into nothing further about me (no follow up now I've posted).

His drive by comments and non participation into really out of the blue defence based on clear phone auto corrects is really odd when he likes pressure being put on people. His whole push just takes the wind out of my sails and shuts down a discussion avenue. Weird post even if it's what he thinks.

+ Show Spoiler +
but his words are nice and he could just as easily be town but shhhhh that's no fun


Before I proceed to sum up why I think Rels could be mafia along with more questions for him that arose from his posts:

You said at the beginning about me that I made a nice point about Hapa but reached the wrong conclusion.
My point was that his tryhardism felt forced/cramped, and his attack on me was also pretty hefty given it was right at the beginning of the game, he explained why he played like that (just his personal style of getting discussion going).

Then you make an argument that could as well have been mine, yet earlier you said my point was shit, so to say.


My post about you was entirely sarcasm. I literally said you made a read and that's higher skill than I've seen in most games. Aka everyone else in this forum has been playing like shit. It apparently went over everyone's head.

I did like your post about how hapa seemed ready to go and aggressive and I liked that you made it.

I liked that point but thought it made him towny whereas you thought the inverse.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22423 Posts
January 16 2017 14:10 GMT
#271
Rels do you still think that Damdred could be mafia for his bad reasons on LS? If so, why?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 16 2017 14:10 GMT
#272
On January 16 2017 23:07 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 09:47 Damdred wrote:
Eh if like to talk some actually hf.

I don't like hapa post for a couple reasons. One I don't want to talk about as you kinda covered it.

But he soft defended me and I hate soft defends. Like I think its a great mafia thing to do asbit leaves his options open which he does.


I need to have him flesh it out a bit more about why he hates Hapa there so it would be more clear for me his thoughts.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 16 2017 14:12 GMT
#273
But how is that relevant to what you think about hapa and myself....?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 16 2017 14:12 GMT
#274
What alignment do you think damdred is atm ls?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 16 2017 14:14 GMT
#275
On January 16 2017 23:12 Holyflare wrote:
But how is that relevant to what you think about hapa and myself....?

I want a comparison with him and see if we agree somewhere and if we disagree somewhere try to talk it out with him.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22423 Posts
January 16 2017 14:14 GMT
#276
On January 16 2017 23:10 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 23:04 Vivax wrote:
On January 16 2017 09:53 Holyflare wrote:
I think hapa can absolutely be mafia.

His vivax fight/unvote felt forced especially since in one of his posts his whole vivax criticism is that vivax is posting what's on his mind and it's weak accusations but then says we should be posting everything we can.

His "suspicion" on me for what was blatantly troll posts but mimicry of what vivax was saying into nothing further about me (no follow up now I've posted).

His drive by comments and non participation into really out of the blue defence based on clear phone auto corrects is really odd when he likes pressure being put on people. His whole push just takes the wind out of my sails and shuts down a discussion avenue. Weird post even if it's what he thinks.

+ Show Spoiler +
but his words are nice and he could just as easily be town but shhhhh that's no fun


Before I proceed to sum up why I think Rels could be mafia along with more questions for him that arose from his posts:

You said at the beginning about me that I made a nice point about Hapa but reached the wrong conclusion.
My point was that his tryhardism felt forced/cramped, and his attack on me was also pretty hefty given it was right at the beginning of the game, he explained why he played like that (just his personal style of getting discussion going).

Then you make an argument that could as well have been mine, yet earlier you said my point was shit, so to say.


My post about you was entirely sarcasm. I literally said you made a read and that's higher skill than I've seen in most games. Aka everyone else in this forum has been playing like shit. It apparently went over everyone's head.

I did like your post about how hapa seemed ready to go and aggressive and I liked that you made it.

I liked that point but thought it made him towny whereas you thought the inverse.


I was considering myself if what we saw Hapa doing was a fight/flight reaction. He felt pressured after my observation and the only way out he saw was to scumread me, so to say. That's one possible interpretation I'm still juggling in my mind. Later on when he thought it was over he unscumread me but by doing what he did managed to break free of the defensive successfully.

However I don't know why you think his initial nervousness seemed townie to you, yet his attack on me seemed scummy as for me both kind of fall into the same category/window of events.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 16 2017 14:18 GMT
#277
On January 16 2017 23:12 Holyflare wrote:
What alignment do you think damdred is atm ls?

Very likely town atm I liked this post from him:
On January 16 2017 04:22 Damdred wrote:
It is interesting as a side note that hapa was interested enough to ask me a question about ls reading but just disnt care enough to respond to me answering (feelings hurt).

Really I did like that vivax had a sort of point he wanted to drive home. I disagree with him though.

I liked hapa offensive capabilities but I sort of feel like it was misplaced it felt like.

Fight seems off to me.

He was experiencing some doubt there but also show he cared about being ignored by Hapa at the time. Town!Damdred doesn't like being ignored more than Scum!Damdred.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 14:18 GMT
#278
On January 16 2017 23:10 Vivax wrote:
Rels do you still think that Damdred could be mafia for his bad reasons on LS? If so, why?

not really. I want him to talk about it.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 16 2017 14:20 GMT
#279
Maybe I just a sucker to Damdred since I haven't played with him for a while and I really missed playing with him.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 16 2017 14:20 GMT
#280
I didn't read any part of your argument because it was boring. I just looked at your post and saw that it said nice things and looked at the conclusion and saw it didn't say the nice thing I'd like.

I don't think he was nervous and the only reason his push seemed scummy was because it was based on non-points (which he has seemingly retroactively said was fake pressure but after your fight alluded to ACTUALLY having reasons to call you out sooo which is it really?) and continued for far too long. He was also placated by a boring response which I didn't like.

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