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On January 14 2017 10:04 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 10:00 Koshi wrote:On January 14 2017 09:58 Calix wrote:On January 14 2017 09:56 Koshi wrote:On January 14 2017 09:53 Calix wrote:
That's not why we shot SW though. lol. I can't believe that. It's pretty simple, my dear. Shoot the people you can't discredit in MYLO. Also had the nice benefit of weakening ika's standing in the town. Oh sure. it was way more likely you would discredit the fucking confirmed blue vig... Come on. Maybe it wasn't your main reason or second reason or even maybe third. But there is always a reason and that is what ika is pointing out. nk aren't random. And there are enough games in which some guy accidentally posts the entire scumteam somewhere during the day, changes his mind but still gets shot over more influential people. Palmar is a pretty good mafia player and his tactic literally is: 'You scumread me? I shoot you". And it works cuz nobody is left to lynch him. Yeah we were gonna shoot kmatt N3 but then the modkill happened and shooting the active credible player > lurky sheep town was way better. You're not entirely wrong since that was why we shot Vivax N1 even though few people took him seriously. I have some questions. Did you scum-read me during the game? If so, what gave me away? Would love some advice there from the One and Only Koshi 
I didn't and I am very upset about it. I had darthfoley as sure scum and waffled on and off reps. But I was 1.000% convinced Onegu was mafia but of course he wasn't again.
That being said, I call in the excuse of not really reading the thread or playing in it. Because with me in it Vivax and Grack were going to be lock town and we would be dominating the search. Really weird he got so much flak. He got flak for pressuring mafia!darthfoley...
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On January 14 2017 09:37 kitaman27 wrote:
As a side note, having ME as someone's name got really confusing at times.There were a bunch of posts that I would read out of context then wonder why someone would be calling themselves mafia. XD
Try cntrl + F ing ME lol it was horrendous
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On January 14 2017 09:58 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 09:56 Koshi wrote:On January 14 2017 09:53 Calix wrote:
That's not why we shot SW though. lol. I can't believe that. It's pretty simple, my dear. Shoot the people you can't discredit in MYLO. Also had the nice benefit of weakening ika's standing in the town.
ika would never have been lynched either, he's not that easy to discredit and he had you pegged all game-I would of taken him out first
I had a creepy feeling about you and darth working together when you both said my defense was bad-that triggered all kinds of alarms and I should of followed up on my last line of you/darth/onegu-it had 2 scum in it but I have a terrible habit of changing my mind a hundred thousand times or not following up on a lead I'm not sure of.
I think town should of lynched Squishy today. In just about any scenario, Squishy was scum.
B0ston not being here hurt the town, ME having a meltdown and modkilling himself hurt town, bdtd hurt town, kmatt shot wrong and didn't contribute much as confirmed town, grack got in a piss fight with ika as doc
Vivax was right on with darth and Squishy and did very well. I understand why he was killed.
Calix and darth did great at looking town.
Damodred was impressive as well coming in and getting straight to scumhunting.
I like Onegu's play overall, just would of like to see more of him.
ika was obvious town to me
Squishy I went back and forth on over and over-but PoE said scum at the end.
I'm not sure how town would of done without the misplays but with them, there wasn't much of a chance.
Anyway, I still enjoyed the game and I would def play here again.
Also, I'd love to hydra with ika again. 
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On January 14 2017 10:07 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 10:04 Calix wrote:On January 14 2017 10:00 Koshi wrote:On January 14 2017 09:58 Calix wrote:On January 14 2017 09:56 Koshi wrote:On January 14 2017 09:53 Calix wrote:
That's not why we shot SW though. lol. I can't believe that. It's pretty simple, my dear. Shoot the people you can't discredit in MYLO. Also had the nice benefit of weakening ika's standing in the town. Oh sure. it was way more likely you would discredit the fucking confirmed blue vig... Come on. Maybe it wasn't your main reason or second reason or even maybe third. But there is always a reason and that is what ika is pointing out. nk aren't random. And there are enough games in which some guy accidentally posts the entire scumteam somewhere during the day, changes his mind but still gets shot over more influential people. Palmar is a pretty good mafia player and his tactic literally is: 'You scumread me? I shoot you". And it works cuz nobody is left to lynch him. Yeah we were gonna shoot kmatt N3 but then the modkill happened and shooting the active credible player > lurky sheep town was way better. You're not entirely wrong since that was why we shot Vivax N1 even though few people took him seriously. I have some questions. Did you scum-read me during the game? If so, what gave me away? Would love some advice there from the One and Only Koshi I didn't and I am very upset about it. I had darthfoley as sure scum and waffled on and off reps. But I was 1.000% convinced Onegu was mafia but of course he wasn't again. That being said, I call in the excuse of not really reading the thread or playing in it. Because with me in it Vivax and Grack were going to be lock town and we would be dominating the search. Really weird he got so much flak. He got flak for pressuring mafia!darthfoley...
If I got one thing from this game, it's that satisfaction
Yeah, the fact that Vivax/ Grack were major D1 lynch candidates was a real blessing for mafia. I actually thought lynching those two would be hard :D
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Apologies for not playing better to an extent really hard coming in basically in Mylo.
Really should of stuck with the Df scrum read tsk.
But yeah vivax played well, still confused why me titled so hard over nothing in my mind.
Calif my biggest criticism would probably be you really are passive seeming as scum. It piqued my interest a couple of times the fights you were getting into really didn't lead to to much.
D3 df played amazingly to have the game in the bag imo really inc in both of you there.
Really I don't think to am ever wins this situation in a game to many things happened.
Gg all though
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On January 14 2017 10:06 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 10:02 disformation wrote:On January 14 2017 09:44 Calix wrote:On January 14 2017 09:40 disformation wrote:On January 14 2017 09:37 Calix wrote:
Also I really hate night kill analysis. I'm the sort of person who prefers focusing on what you can see in the thread so when people waste time with NKA, it annoys me. I think the concept of trying to figure out why scum shot someone when they're still a team and you do not know their motivations for sure is stupid. It's not as bad when one scummer's left though. fair enough. it can be very very wifom. still you have access to reads of a confirmed town now. shouldnt hurt to take a peek. (wish i would do this more often myself) In my opinion, alignments can be determined solely by post analysis and everything else is WIFOM that scum can use to frame townies or "confirm" themselves. People who rely on that as a crutch are admitting that they are so bad at reading players that they cannot use the words/ actions that the player ACTUALLY took to determine their alignment. I think I would have been more pissed off as town at how much time was spent on discussing the night kill... It's completely unnecessary. I never said to rely on NKA alone. That is indeed very bad. But it is a tool that can help or add to building a case. Some ppl are pretty hard to catch solely with post analysis. Esp. in a disharmonic town. "pretty hard to catch" That's where the fun is. I'm not expecting people to agree with me since it's so ingrained in site meta/s but don't expect me to start using it in my analysis. I'm basically just posting this shit to quote in future games if anyone calls me out for saying "NKA sucks and you suck for using it" 
fair enough.
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I am actually going to start playing more neutral as town. I can't match the level of emotion I have as town as mafia. It's my ultimate scum tell and I can't shake it off.
I'm going to make my town game less emotional/ passionate so that it stops being a tell.
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Like by the time I left I felt in a was town, if I had another ml and Boston was dead I think the game was winnable but not like this sadly
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Well you came in as a super questionable slot and were instantly obvious town.
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Squishy told me he had a real difficult time with his RL schedule. The RL excuses he made were 100% true.
As either alignment, aside from the advice I directly gave you, you need to work on putting priority on your top scumreads. When and if you should return as town, focus on post quality but not to the extent you start overexplaining (and at times you had the opposite problem, but we all discussed that one in the qt). Focus on who you think is mafia, and why, and with quotes if you can. Then move on to the next point. Follow up with questions. If you see something they do that changes your read, mention it and keep on moving.
Way to hang in there, wouldn't mind coaching you again as town. Generally you want to be able to get your town game established first before you can really solidify your scum game.
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On January 14 2017 10:16 disformation wrote:
Well you came in as a super questionable slot and were instantly obvious town.
Not often anymore people say this you know
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On January 14 2017 10:17 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 10:16 disformation wrote:
Well you came in as a super questionable slot and were instantly obvious town. Not often anymore people say this you know
Maybe it was because obvscum!Calix was trying to discredit you the moment you walked in
If it's any consolation, the reaction on Skype to seeing that you were the replacement was...amusing.
Speaking of that, shout out to DF and squishy who were great to play with. It's a refreshing change to have a team who you can actually work with instead of lugging around like dead-weight.
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On January 14 2017 10:10 Damdred wrote:
Apologies for not playing better to an extent really hard coming in basically in Mylo.
Really should of stuck with the Df scrum read tsk.
But yeah vivax played well, still confused why me titled so hard over nothing in my mind.
Calif my biggest criticism would probably be you really are passive seeming as scum. It piqued my interest a couple of times the fights you were getting into really didn't lead to to much.
D3 df played amazingly to have the game in the bag imo really inc in both of you there.
Really I don't think to am ever wins this situation in a game to many things happened.
Gg all though
Yea you were super townie when you had the chance to be. I was actually a little nervous with how Calix kept throwing shade on you D3; thought you might just turn on her.
It also helped that Vivax sort of backed off of me near EoD1 so I had that as a semi ready defense
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yeah I am upset about my D1 reads.
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Yeah, it kinda was like. "I could be wrong on DF and it is KSC after all"
"nope thats a town damdy, I bet they shoot him". then I was sad that you townread calix. xD
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On January 14 2017 10:20 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 10:17 Damdred wrote:On January 14 2017 10:16 disformation wrote:
Well you came in as a super questionable slot and were instantly obvious town. Not often anymore people say this you know Maybe it was because obvscum!Calix was trying to discredit you the moment you walked in If it's any consolation, the reaction on Skype to seeing that you were the replacement was...amusing. Speaking of that, shout out to DF and squishy who were great to play with. It's a refreshing change to have a team who you can actually work with instead of lugging around like dead-weight.
Right back atcha. I couldn't be scum because my one scum a year ago was different, right?
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On January 14 2017 10:22 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 10:20 Calix wrote:On January 14 2017 10:17 Damdred wrote:On January 14 2017 10:16 disformation wrote:
Well you came in as a super questionable slot and were instantly obvious town. Not often anymore people say this you know Maybe it was because obvscum!Calix was trying to discredit you the moment you walked in If it's any consolation, the reaction on Skype to seeing that you were the replacement was...amusing. Speaking of that, shout out to DF and squishy who were great to play with. It's a refreshing change to have a team who you can actually work with instead of lugging around like dead-weight. Right back atcha. I couldn't be scum because my one scum a year ago was different, right?
Meanwhile I was obvious town because I was sarcastic and blunt
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fucking fuck lol. gg wp scum.
calix, well done. I'm glad to see you get your first win as mafia. but I'm also disappointed you fell victim to hts' evil ways.
didn't know you were a vodka girl though.
darthfoley and squish, same to you as well. squishy was glaringly obvious to me, but never would have gotten darth at all.
the vig shot was shocking. "MOM GET THE CAMERA." I don't think I'll be getting that quote unstuck from my head anytime soon. so was the doctor counterclaim. the modkill....like I said in obs, seriously just stick to PMing the mods if you have a problem.
hts alone warrants a ban for turning the mafia qt into a cocktail bar though
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On January 14 2017 10:20 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 10:17 Damdred wrote:On January 14 2017 10:16 disformation wrote:
Well you came in as a super questionable slot and were instantly obvious town. Not often anymore people say this you know Maybe it was because obvscum!Calix was trying to discredit you the moment you walked in If it's any consolation, the reaction on Skype to seeing that you were the replacement was...amusing. Speaking of that, shout out to DF and squishy who were great to play with. It's a refreshing change to have a team who you can actually work with instead of lugging around like dead-weight.
Curioust what the reaction was.
There wwere three times I thought Calix was scrum I just really didn't want to start a shit fight today.
1) When I came into the game and calix kept hedging without giving a true read on me (day three also).
2) when I found good things in squishy and calix was like nope. It was actually good proof I just thought boston was a good shot as scum.
3) when I thought df was scrum kinda got attacked a small bit. But when I started rethinking my read on him was like maybe you are town.
I think I could of came around given more time but I kinda doubt it. Or that a would of lynched Darth correctly.
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Yeah some of Kmatts posts were amazing.
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