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On January 14 2017 09:27 darthfoley wrote:
If anyone has any suggestions/analysis for my scum play in particular I'd be all ears. This was my first game since my first game ever as scum, so I'm still not super well versed in the alignment.
What set off the alarm bells in Vivax/disformations head early? Common stuff? A lot of people in obs flip flopped on me so I did some things right, but obviously some of my early play was bad.
Thanks in advance!
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Oops, that was supposed to be an edit
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I would also appreciate any comments about how to improve, especially from scumformation 
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GG WP Scum. Kmatt my biggest advice for you as Vig is to next time shoot your scum read over trying to hit a homerun like you did this game. If the person you scumreading was town oh well but if they were scum well you earned yourself a extra lynch.
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On January 14 2017 09:27 darthfoley wrote:
If anyone has any suggestions/analysis for my scum play in particular I'd be all ears. This was my first game since my first game ever as scum, so I'm still not super well versed in the alignment.
What set off the alarm bells in Vivax/disformations head early? Common stuff? A lot of people in obs flip flopped on me so I didn't some things right, but obviously some of my early play was bad.
Thanks in advance!
Was a mix of:
a) selecting the worst case scenario for town
b) PoE
c) the NK pointing to you (would have shot you before SW)
d) associations
associations: at some times you were posting things very similar to calix to similar times.
E.g. both of you were discouraging ppl that were looking into reasons for the Vivax NK (cause that was pointing to him hard scumreading squishy).
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On January 14 2017 09:27 darthfoley wrote:
If anyone has any suggestions/analysis for my scum play in particular I'd be all ears. This was my first game since my first game ever as scum, so I'm still not super well versed in the alignment.
What set off the alarm bells in Vivax/disformations head early? Common stuff? A lot of people in obs flip flopped on me so I didn't some things right, but obviously some of my early play was bad.
Thanks in advance!
Dunno I think I covered everything that made me suspicious of you already. Your early read on ika and then the way you just...had in the conversation. Like some guy in a corner occasionally talking and never trying to aggressively push his points or engage in a debate.
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Vigilante should be used to shoot a counter-wagon or a lurker imo. Counter-wagon gives town information and a lurker means that you don't have to waste a lynch on a useless player.
In this case, I cannot fathom why BTDT was NOT shot. lmao
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On January 11 2017 06:13 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2017 06:07 SilverWolf77 wrote:On January 11 2017 05:54 darthfoley wrote:On January 11 2017 05:23 SilverWolf77 wrote:
That case on ika is incredibly bad ME. I'll let him address it though but that's my opinion on it. It looks really fabricated and scummy.
bdtd-I'm here and if you think I'm avoiding the thread or trying not to do anything, then you are misrepping me badly. I have no problem addressing all your points in detail and anything else anyone wants to talk about.
First, I don't believe your roleblock claim because you lied about being the doc getting the real doc lynched, then claimed cop, then claimed VT, then claimed cop, then VT and now you say you are roleblocked. I don't believe a word you say. I think you should be lynched. Period. You've been lying all game. You have been flailing ever since. So no, I'm not going to reconsider wanting to lynch you.
There is nothing wrong with my Onegu filter. I had no read on him. That's how I got one. null town just means he is leaning town but has a lot of null posts so it isn't a strong townread. I went from null to town on him and I showed how I got there. I did the same on Squishy-I had no read and kept going back and forth-so now I have one. Town should always be reanalyzing their reads and make sure they are correct. If you don't know what null town means, you need to ask me instead of making false assumptions about it. You must be o.k. with my Reps filter since you said nothing about it.
I'm not the least afraid of pressuring Onegu or doing something this day phase. That is just serious misrep and it's scummy as hell. I have been here and am willing to answer any question directed at me including discussion of my reads and posts on filters, etc. You are basically calling one of the most active players afraid to do something. Yeah, no.
You saying it's incredibly scummy that I'm not feeling well and tired is BS. I have been sick for two days and have been going to the hospital everyday for radiation therapy. DO NOT EVER go after me for real life again.
You saying my townread on ika is scummy is complete crap since you also have a townread on him. I'm not praising ika at all-again complete and total misrep. I'm explaining why I think he's town because I have extensive experience with him. As far as paranoia goes or being too sure he's town, he's my strongest townread based on nearly 100 posts he's put into this game and my experience with him. If I had said right away, I think he's town, you'd have a point but I didn't.
That last part is me telling you to give reads if your town and the fact that you didn't was me thinking you are scum. Also, you went after me for RL again. I was at the dr. office so I couldn't post more than that. If that's the only thing I posted all day, I could let it go BUT I've been doing more than that. You are just ignoring it to fit your narrative that I'm trying to look active. Considering how many posts I've put into this game, that's just completely wrong.
I believe you are selectively pointing out posts I made this day phase and shifting them to fit your narrative that they are scummy when they are clearly town oriented and that's scummy as shit. Get lynched.
Why you feel the need to go through his post point by point and refute it all when 1) You think he's mafia 2) He's 1000% getting lynched today This just feels a little too defensive for my liking. Can you focus on someone besides btdt? Like what do you make of Calix/ME/B0ston etc... anyone that isn't BTDT. If you're town literally the last thing we need is to continue to tilt. I've already said I think scum are in ME, B0ston, btdt, Kelsier group. I am going to go through yours, Calix, ME, B0ston filters before day end to make sure I still feel that way. I'm also paying attention to the Calix/ME interaction. And why on Earth would a town member not respond to points made against them? Ignoring stuff like that is scummy. I don't care who it's from. Like, I fully expect ika to respond to ME's points on him no matter what he thinks of ME when he get in here next.
ika responding to ME is not the same as you writing a wall of text towards someone you think is scum and who is also getting for certain lynched in 3 hours lol. Yea i'm also gonna go through Calix/ME/Onegu's filters later.
This sentence is so weird. You played a great game btw. But that sentence was like a scumslip to me. Just how defensive it is and how you kinda are suggesting that she is mafia with TMI when btdt flips town.
Such a red alert sentence.
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On January 14 2017 09:29 Calix wrote:I would also appreciate any comments about how to improve, especially from scumformation
TBH big thing was:
I was 100% on squishy after his vote on grack eod1 and you were defending/deflecting a lot of good points that were going in his direction.
generally you seemed like you were dismissing/defending/deflecting a whole lot of stuff and not looking into stuff of your own a lot.
also the thing kita pointed out.
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On January 14 2017 09:31 Calix wrote:
Vigilante should be used to shoot a counter-wagon or a lurker imo. Counter-wagon gives town information and a lurker means that you don't have to waste a lynch on a useless player.
In this case, I cannot fathom why BTDT was NOT shot. lmao
That is another way you can play as vig.
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On January 14 2017 09:31 Calix wrote:
Vigilante should be used to shoot a counter-wagon or a lurker imo. Counter-wagon gives town information and a lurker means that you don't have to waste a lynch on a useless player.
In this case, I cannot fathom why BTDT was NOT shot. lmao
This was exactly how I felt. I saw Damdred's posting on that too and I was like.....yeeaaaahhhhhh.
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Anyway. What a great mafia performance. Only reps looked maybe a bit mafia at times but I don't think he was lynchable. Calix and df were so clean the first day, I thought mafia was between the low volume posters because the thread looked so clean. Such great mafia plays. Big filter, yet nothing felt dirty.
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On January 14 2017 09:32 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 09:29 Calix wrote:I would also appreciate any comments about how to improve, especially from scumformation TBH big thing was: I was 100% on squishy after his vote on grack eod1 and you were defending/deflecting a lot of good points that were going in his direction. generally you seemed like you were dismissing/defending/deflecting a whole lot of stuff and not looking into stuff of your own a lot. also the thing kita pointed out.
I know that I was going out of my way to deflect off squishy but if you take that out, would you have caught me individually?
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rofl LS, ninjaed me by one second.
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On January 14 2017 09:34 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 09:32 disformation wrote:On January 14 2017 09:29 Calix wrote:I would also appreciate any comments about how to improve, especially from scumformation TBH big thing was: I was 100% on squishy after his vote on grack eod1 and you were defending/deflecting a lot of good points that were going in his direction. generally you seemed like you were dismissing/defending/deflecting a whole lot of stuff and not looking into stuff of your own a lot. also the thing kita pointed out. I know that I was going out of my way to deflect off squishy but if you take that out, would you have caught me individually?
Dunno. 
Would def. have been hard lynching either you or DF without a squishy flip.
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On January 14 2017 09:34 Vivax wrote:
NVM the roleblocks
I saw the message pre-edit. The problem with that is that mafia already knew the setup was doc/vig so they would be able to piece it together.
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As a side note, having ME as someone's name got really confusing at times.There were a bunch of posts that I would read out of context then wonder why someone would be calling themselves mafia. XD
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Also I really hate night kill analysis. I'm the sort of person who prefers focusing on what you can see in the thread so when people waste time with NKA, it annoys me. I think the concept of trying to figure out why scum shot someone when they're still a team and you do not know their motivations for sure is stupid. It's not as bad when one scummer's left though.
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