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On January 06 2017 23:33 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2017 23:32 SilverWolf77 wrote:On January 06 2017 23:10 Vivax wrote:On January 06 2017 23:07 ika42 wrote:On January 06 2017 22:56 Vivax wrote:On January 06 2017 22:28 ika42 wrote:On January 06 2017 15:42 Vivax wrote:On January 06 2017 15:39 darthfoley wrote:On January 06 2017 15:30 Vivax wrote:On January 06 2017 15:21 darthfoley wrote:
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Forced how? Of course it's a read, but it's a D1 read 3 hours in. Forgive me if i'm not wow'd by someone asking nebulous or irrelevant questions about self meta that could easily be bullshitted.
His play since is more trolly than I prefer, except regarding the point on Calix's scum play which is actually useful.
Why not 1gu then? I've never seen Onegu play a non trolly game. It's within his meta either way, especially D1 lol But you have seen ikas meta yes? how come you are acting like i am town? How does that question have anything to do with your alignment? On January 06 2017 22:35 darthfoley wrote:On January 06 2017 17:30 Vivax wrote:On January 06 2017 16:25 darthfoley wrote:On January 06 2017 16:14 Vivax wrote:On January 06 2017 15:48 darthfoley wrote:
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No, I don't know the guy
Idk why you are eager to suspect someone for not being super serious at the beginning of the game, when clearly you don't even know how he usually plays. So that's why I'm saying your read is forced, it looked like you found something worth smearing for the sake of itself cause calix asked you to dig something up. She asked me if I had picked up on anything else and that was the only thing I had found worth mentioning. I think it's hardly accurate to say that I'm trying to smear the dude. It's refreshing to assess someone's motives without knowing meta. You're less likely to talk yourself out of gut reads. No idea why you find that problematic. You're acting like I'm on a crusade against the guy lol. It's always easy to call out someone for being trolly or not contributive. And I don't see how that applies to him in particular. Even for yourself it's such a weak argument that you call it not a real read. So I find it unusual that asked whether you saw something worth picking up, you do it over something that you didn't feel strongly about, and for something that is imo NAI (not alignment indicative for who doesn't know) at this stage. So one possibility is you were simply being casual as town and throwing that out there even though for your play it will have little impact as you don't want to pursue that further. Then again that would mean that your answer to Calix "did you see something worthwhile" still wasn't answered and that you didn't find an avenue for finding scum there. Or you are scum with the pressure that comes to post something looking useful well knowing that as long as you post something that you don't have to commit to, you're fine. And that post also falls in this category, too. Now from this ambiguity why do I think that it makes you more likely mafia? Scum that doesn't have a trolly town meta by default will be under pressure to look useful. Your filter apart from one or two posts seems like you are trying to look useful. That post isn't something I believe you think to be useful. Otherwise tell me why you believe it's useful. Achieves something for yourself besides satisfying a request that you would grant only to enhance your standing with the town, which is mafia play. Yea scum try to appear useful. This is why I focused on ika compared to someone like Onegu. Ika started the game with this useful looking questionnaire thing that everyone agrees is NAI for everyone-- but it gets people talking! Since that post it's basically been chummy with KSC and SW. I just feel like everything else in this game could've happened without using the questionnaire, which reminds me of the "appearance of utility" meta point. Do you have any opinion of Grack or Calix atm? Grack no opinion yet, as for calix I just let her do her thing as she's active and keeps delivering her view of the game. Right now I'm mostly waiting for you and Kelsier to post more as your posts are what I'm concentrating the most on at the moment. So do you actually believe you have something on ika or not? That he tried to appear useful with the questionnaire is I think not an argument you mentioned earlier. i asked you a question, i do not expect a question in return. I expect an answer. If you have a question after that then you can ask. Your question already implies that I guessed your alignment, which is wrong, so it can't be answered. On January 06 2017 23:07 SilverWolf77 wrote:On January 06 2017 14:13 Vivax wrote:Is there anyone here who actually didn't play mafia before, or just very very little? On January 06 2017 11:31 darthfoley wrote:On January 06 2017 10:43 Calix wrote:
I sense I'll have an aneurysm at this rate.
DF, you seem sensible. What else have you noticed so far? I actually feel weird about ika. Asked the kinda useless questionnaire and has basically been bs'ing a bit since. Not a real read but I find his opening a little off This read looks forced. I mean, you will say it isn't a read I know, but we both know it kind of is. And to me it just looks like you were looking for someone to make look guilty easily to fulfill Calix demand. Fend yourself, Foley. Vivax-Why are you defending ika so early in the game? Suspecting someone doesn't mean I'm defending his scumreads, which you are assuming I do. When you are interjecting yourself into a person's suspicion of someone else, without letting him scumhunt ika, then that means you think ika is town. Otherwise, you would want ika to respond first to get a read on him. I get going after someone for having what you think is a bad read on someone else, but this is spending too much time defending a person who you have not even given an opinion on yet but are acting like he's town. I would like your read on ika. Is he town or not and why? So right now you're interjecting in my suspicion on foley and hence townreading him? You should have realized by now that it's not how this is going to work.
And you should realize by now that your constant deflection and this kind of attitude doesn't work with me at all.
I don't see how you can be town so I'm gonna go ahead and place my vote here.
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On January 06 2017 23:40 Vivax wrote:
I don't have a read on ika so far and I don't need to have one to question darthfoley's read on him.
No, you don't have to have a read on ika to say darthfoley's read on him is bad. I agree. The problem I have is the way you are doing it. Basically, ika no longer has to answer the suspicion because you interjected. Not only interjected but also defended ika by asking if darthfoley has his meta and implying that ika's questions are not scummy. You have a right to have an opinion on ika's questioning but the way you are doing it is very protective of ika. If you have no read of ika, this doesn't make much sense.
I guess my gut just pinged hard off of that and also I think you interjected when someone was questioning someone else-I think Calix pointed this out already.
Anyway, from my experience, scum like to do this because they get towncred for defending people they know are town. It's way too early to have a super strong opinion on someone's alignment, unless you know that alignment. Doesn't mean we can't have reads. We certainly can. But when I would of preferred to see ika answer the suspicion and engage with darth rather than have you interject.
Sorry if I'm not explaining myself well. I'm tired and rambling right now. Be back in a little bit.
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No, it isn't that I think darthfoley's suspicion of ika is worth it.
It's more that I saw you defending two people who you don't have a townread on. By saying B0stonSC just does things that way is a defense of him before he can even answer the question directed at him. You asking darth if he has ika's meta looked like a defense of ika.
Also, In response to my suspicion, you deflected or tried to discredit rather than just explaining yourself further.
That said, giving your own opinion of B0stonSC's opening or your own opinion of darth's read on ika as fake is totally valid and not scummy to me at all.
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On January 06 2017 22:25 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2017 10:59 KelsierSC wrote:On January 06 2017 10:57 SilverWolf77 wrote:On January 06 2017 10:55 KelsierSC wrote:
so how you reading ika atm? Slight townread based on posting the questions to get us talking and his activity and interest in the game so far. But he may be just copying his town meta so I'm keeping an eye on him still. yeh...like if i was you that is what I would be thinking if I was town. i have to go into work tomorrow unfortunately but only for like 1hr so should be on tomorrow. I know it seems like i've just been jerking off in the thread, and whilst this is true I think Calix, silver and ika are probably town and everyone else is kind of blegh. Grak is mafia though, im pretty happy with my vote at the moment. This post gets my vote.
ika, when you get on, can you explain this vote? Why does this post make you scumread KelsierSC?
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On January 07 2017 04:56 reps)squishy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2017 23:37 SilverWolf77 wrote:On January 06 2017 23:33 Vivax wrote:On January 06 2017 23:32 SilverWolf77 wrote:On January 06 2017 23:10 Vivax wrote:On January 06 2017 23:07 ika42 wrote:On January 06 2017 22:56 Vivax wrote:On January 06 2017 22:28 ika42 wrote:On January 06 2017 15:42 Vivax wrote:On January 06 2017 15:39 darthfoley wrote:
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I've never seen Onegu play a non trolly game. It's within his meta either way, especially D1 lol
But you have seen ikas meta yes? how come you are acting like i am town? How does that question have anything to do with your alignment? On January 06 2017 22:35 darthfoley wrote:On January 06 2017 17:30 Vivax wrote:On January 06 2017 16:25 darthfoley wrote:
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She asked me if I had picked up on anything else and that was the only thing I had found worth mentioning. I think it's hardly accurate to say that I'm trying to smear the dude.
It's refreshing to assess someone's motives without knowing meta. You're less likely to talk yourself out of gut reads. No idea why you find that problematic. You're acting like I'm on a crusade against the guy lol.
It's always easy to call out someone for being trolly or not contributive. And I don't see how that applies to him in particular. Even for yourself it's such a weak argument that you call it not a real read. So I find it unusual that asked whether you saw something worth picking up, you do it over something that you didn't feel strongly about, and for something that is imo NAI (not alignment indicative for who doesn't know) at this stage. So one possibility is you were simply being casual as town and throwing that out there even though for your play it will have little impact as you don't want to pursue that further. Then again that would mean that your answer to Calix "did you see something worthwhile" still wasn't answered and that you didn't find an avenue for finding scum there. Or you are scum with the pressure that comes to post something looking useful well knowing that as long as you post something that you don't have to commit to, you're fine. And that post also falls in this category, too. Now from this ambiguity why do I think that it makes you more likely mafia? Scum that doesn't have a trolly town meta by default will be under pressure to look useful. Your filter apart from one or two posts seems like you are trying to look useful. That post isn't something I believe you think to be useful. Otherwise tell me why you believe it's useful. Achieves something for yourself besides satisfying a request that you would grant only to enhance your standing with the town, which is mafia play. Yea scum try to appear useful. This is why I focused on ika compared to someone like Onegu. Ika started the game with this useful looking questionnaire thing that everyone agrees is NAI for everyone-- but it gets people talking! Since that post it's basically been chummy with KSC and SW. I just feel like everything else in this game could've happened without using the questionnaire, which reminds me of the "appearance of utility" meta point. Do you have any opinion of Grack or Calix atm? Grack no opinion yet, as for calix I just let her do her thing as she's active and keeps delivering her view of the game. Right now I'm mostly waiting for you and Kelsier to post more as your posts are what I'm concentrating the most on at the moment. So do you actually believe you have something on ika or not? That he tried to appear useful with the questionnaire is I think not an argument you mentioned earlier. i asked you a question, i do not expect a question in return. I expect an answer. If you have a question after that then you can ask. Your question already implies that I guessed your alignment, which is wrong, so it can't be answered. On January 06 2017 23:07 SilverWolf77 wrote:On January 06 2017 14:13 Vivax wrote:Is there anyone here who actually didn't play mafia before, or just very very little? On January 06 2017 11:31 darthfoley wrote:On January 06 2017 10:43 Calix wrote:
I sense I'll have an aneurysm at this rate.
DF, you seem sensible. What else have you noticed so far? I actually feel weird about ika. Asked the kinda useless questionnaire and has basically been bs'ing a bit since. Not a real read but I find his opening a little off This read looks forced. I mean, you will say it isn't a read I know, but we both know it kind of is. And to me it just looks like you were looking for someone to make look guilty easily to fulfill Calix demand. Fend yourself, Foley. Vivax-Why are you defending ika so early in the game? Suspecting someone doesn't mean I'm defending his scumreads, which you are assuming I do. When you are interjecting yourself into a person's suspicion of someone else, without letting him scumhunt ika, then that means you think ika is town. Otherwise, you would want ika to respond first to get a read on him. I get going after someone for having what you think is a bad read on someone else, but this is spending too much time defending a person who you have not even given an opinion on yet but are acting like he's town. I would like your read on ika. Is he town or not and why? So right now you're interjecting in my suspicion on foley and hence townreading him? You should have realized by now that it's not how this is going to work. And you should realize by now that your constant deflection and this kind of attitude doesn't work with me at all. I don't see how you can be town so I'm gonna go ahead and place my vote here. You don't see how he can be town? I see you did vote for him. Can you elaborate what makes you feel this way for a more oblivious individual such as myself.
I made a few posts after this explaining it more. Here let me get them for you.
On January 07 2017 00:02 SilverWolf77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2017 23:40 Vivax wrote:
I don't have a read on ika so far and I don't need to have one to question darthfoley's read on him. No, you don't have to have a read on ika to say darthfoley's read on him is bad. I agree. The problem I have is the way you are doing it. Basically, ika no longer has to answer the suspicion because you interjected. Not only interjected but also defended ika by asking if darthfoley has his meta and implying that ika's questions are not scummy. You have a right to have an opinion on ika's questioning but the way you are doing it is very protective of ika. If you have no read of ika, this doesn't make much sense. I guess my gut just pinged hard off of that and also I think you interjected when someone was questioning someone else-I think Calix pointed this out already. Anyway, from my experience, scum like to do this because they get towncred for defending people they know are town. It's way too early to have a super strong opinion on someone's alignment, unless you know that alignment. Doesn't mean we can't have reads. We certainly can. But when I would of preferred to see ika answer the suspicion and engage with darth rather than have you interject. Sorry if I'm not explaining myself well. I'm tired and rambling right now. Be back in a little bit.
On January 07 2017 01:12 SilverWolf77 wrote:
No, it isn't that I think darthfoley's suspicion of ika is worth it.
It's more that I saw you defending two people who you don't have a townread on. By saying B0stonSC just does things that way is a defense of him before he can even answer the question directed at him. You asking darth if he has ika's meta looked like a defense of ika.
Also, In response to my suspicion, you deflected or tried to discredit rather than just explaining yourself further.
That said, giving your own opinion of B0stonSC's opening or your own opinion of darth's read on ika as fake is totally valid and not scummy to me at all.
It was a combination of what looked like defending people he didn't have a read on by interjecting and answering for them and also acting like he knew they were town with the way he was talking about them (mentioning ika's meta, B0ston SC's playstyle when he knows nothing about these things) plus deflecting/discrediting of any suspicion. There are a few posts of Vivax's which don't look as bad but I tend to aggressively persue what pings me as scummy because we don't have a lot to go on d1.
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On January 07 2017 06:46 B0stonSC wrote:
I thought I voted for Onegu, is the page 10 vote count wrong or did I or did I format it wrong?
You have to put it in the separate vote thread. Also, why Onegu?
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On January 07 2017 07:17 Calix wrote:
Given the new content he provided, I decided to read kmatt's posts because he's pretty hard to read and he keeps pinging me because his posts are obviously polished (which isn't AI in this context but I have to keep telling myself that because it bugs me every time he posts) and well different from his other games. His reads in his list were also confusing and weren't transparent at all. But even with that in mind, I think he fared well when he came out of his shell a bit and started interacting more since he seemed to be posting more off-the-cuff/ naturally compared to posting a list and popping off again.
Wait, just realised. So he has that reads list. Why would he say "I'm focusing on one (scum) read, no point making excess calls" or whatever in the same breath that he makes reads on everyone when he could have been doing the focusing on that scum-read? That doesn't mesh together.
But then he also agrees with me that Boston is scummy so I'm not so sure. But he got two of his reads mixed up (I think) so I'm not sure if he means Boston or if he's just not paying attention there. Man he is a mess.
So he's back at null, not because he's done nothing AI but because I don't know whether the scum aspects outweigh the potential town motivations.
SW, what's your take on him? (also goes to anyone else popping in)
I don't know anything about how he usually plays but I do like his follow up answers to your questioning about his reads. He did a good job of explaining them and his thought process seems transparent enough. I would lean town on him.
I also like darthfoley's latest posts and re-reading him I would lean town as well. This is more tone and gut.
Still have ika, Calix, KelsierSC as town as well for previous stated reasons.
Vivax I explained what I don't like. I also don't care for B0stonSC but that's because he is not answering any questions, just posting filler type posts and then leaves, doing nothing to advance the gamestate or scumhunt. ME-same thing. He pops in, gives the minimal answers to ika's questions, then complains things are too confusing and leaves. I consider them both nervous and unsure about themselves and scummier than the other null people as a result.
reps, grack, btdt, Onegu are all null and I'd like them to post more
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My above post was before B0stonSC's latest post.
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On January 07 2017 08:39 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2017 09:42 SilverWolf77 wrote:On January 06 2017 09:40 Onegu wrote:On January 06 2017 09:26 SilverWolf77 wrote:On January 06 2017 09:00 Onegu wrote:
VT claim Why? Why not? Because it's anti-town. But maybe you guys do things different here. Who knows? Why is it anti town?
It doesn't help town but it does help scum. They know you aren't a PR and can move on to someone else, increasing the likelihood of an actual PR being killed. It's also survivalistic when VT's shouldn't worry so much about avoiding a bullet at night.
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On January 07 2017 07:58 Grackaroni wrote:
I think Vivax's posts have been really townie.
How so?
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On January 07 2017 12:38 Grackaroni wrote:
Here's the deal. I've given reasoning for why I think Vivax is town. I've made it clear from the start that I'm not basing my read on any specific quotes and that for any case you could make for Silverwolf being town I could give a similar one for Vivax being town. My reads on the three of you are all for many of the same reasons.
You've listed silverwolf as town and given no reasoning whatsoever. You should be able to write a town case on Silver wolf and also refute me when I apply your reasoning on her to Vivax's posts.
Nope, you have already stated you are townreading both myself and ika so there is no reason you need to see a case unless you disagree with the read or want a better one on ika.
ika is asking you for a quote or two because he doesn't agree with your read and wants to understand it better, he also has not stated a townread on you and is scumreading Vivax
You are antagonizing your townread and refusing to cooperate. If you don't want to elaborate on a read then just say you don't have a specific quote and be done with it.
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Also, asking a person to prove they are town is the crappiest play out there as no one needs to prove that. If they are town they show it with their posting. If they can't, then they get lynched. It's as simple as that.
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On January 07 2017 13:04 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2017 12:47 Onegu wrote:
She is town because she was the first to call Boston out. And then the back and forth with Vivax doesnt come from scum. Never Never Never. More so in a newbie game as someone who never played with most of the people in this game. Let me just point out that this does not satisfy the requirements set forth, that you have now failed to meet the burden of proof, and you are dodging the question entirely.
Oh good luck with this. There is no one more stubborn than ika.
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On January 07 2017 12:49 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2017 12:47 SilverWolf77 wrote:
Also, asking a person to prove they are town is the crappiest play out there as no one needs to prove that. If they are town they show it with their posting. If they can't, then they get lynched. It's as simple as that.
No I am town because I claimed VT...
Yeah, I don't see scum making this post to be honest or claiming VT out of the gate.
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On January 07 2017 13:18 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2017 09:58 darthfoley wrote:On January 07 2017 08:53 Calix wrote:On January 07 2017 08:48 darthfoley wrote:On January 07 2017 08:36 Calix wrote:On January 07 2017 08:31 darthfoley wrote:
@Calix Like do you really expect every player who goes AFK for a period of time to provide a reason why? If so, I can wait for the impending doom for btdt and Onegu lol I don't know what you're referring to here since I explicitly said that I didn't care about AFKing on its own. Who exactly do you want lynched if not Boston or what have you? Well I think ME has done everything you're accusing B0ston of, but worse. I like reps' questions but I dont remember him having any concrete reads yet, which concerns me. I'm also waiting for Onegu/Kelsier/btdt to catch up and/post anything. I don't know why people are town reading Kelsier, he's a scum read for me at the moment Yeah and I have a scum-lean on ME although I don't get how he can do worse when he just exists. Actually read my posts so I don't have to repeat myself. I'm tired. Oh? For what reason? Regarding Kelsier I find the beginning of this post particularly awkward On January 06 2017 10:59 KelsierSC wrote:On January 06 2017 10:57 SilverWolf77 wrote:On January 06 2017 10:55 KelsierSC wrote:
so how you reading ika atm? Slight townread based on posting the questions to get us talking and his activity and interest in the game so far. But he may be just copying his town meta so I'm keeping an eye on him still. yeh...like if i was you that is what I would be thinking if I was town.i have to go into work tomorrow unfortunately but only for like 1hr so should be on tomorrow. I know it seems like i've just been jerking off in the thread, and whilst this is true I think Calix, silver and ika are probably town and everyone else is kind of blegh. Grak is mafia though, im pretty happy with my vote at the moment. It's a little too much explanation for a town read. Maybe this is unfair of me but he mentions how he should be on tomorrow (today) but I don't think he's posted once today. Real life can be a complicated though so idk. I also feel like he jumped on Vivax's questioning of me in scum fashion. On January 06 2017 20:14 KelsierSC wrote:On January 06 2017 17:30 Vivax wrote:On January 06 2017 16:25 darthfoley wrote:On January 06 2017 16:14 Vivax wrote:On January 06 2017 15:48 darthfoley wrote:On January 06 2017 15:42 Vivax wrote:On January 06 2017 15:39 darthfoley wrote:On January 06 2017 15:30 Vivax wrote:
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Why not 1gu then? I've never seen Onegu play a non trolly game. It's within his meta either way, especially D1 lol But you have seen ikas meta yes? No, I don't know the guy Idk why you are eager to suspect someone for not being super serious at the beginning of the game, when clearly you don't even know how he usually plays. So that's why I'm saying your read is forced, it looked like you found something worth smearing for the sake of itself cause calix asked you to dig something up. She asked me if I had picked up on anything else and that was the only thing I had found worth mentioning. I think it's hardly accurate to say that I'm trying to smear the dude. It's refreshing to assess someone's motives without knowing meta. You're less likely to talk yourself out of gut reads. No idea why you find that problematic. You're acting like I'm on a crusade against the guy lol. It's always easy to call out someone for being trolly or not contributive. And I don't see how that applies to him in particular. Even for yourself it's such a weak argument that you call it not a real read. So I find it unusual that asked whether you saw something worth picking up, you do it over something that you didn't feel strongly about, and for something that is imo NAI (not alignment indicative for who doesn't know) at this stage. So one possibility is you were simply being casual as town and throwing that out there even though for your play it will have little impact as you don't want to pursue that further. Then again that would mean that your answer to Calix "did you see something worthwhile" still wasn't answered and that you didn't find an avenue for finding scum there. Or you are scum with the pressure that comes to post something looking useful well knowing that as long as you post something that you don't have to commit to, you're fine. And that post also falls in this category, too. Now from this ambiguity why do I think that it makes you more likely mafia? Scum that doesn't have a trolly town meta by default will be under pressure to look useful. Your filter apart from one or two posts seems like you are trying to look useful. That post isn't something I believe you think to be useful. Otherwise tell me why you believe it's useful. Achieves something for yourself besides satisfying a request that you would grant only to enhance your standing with the town, which is mafia play. I like this approach from vivax. Got Darth in the boat and he's still flopping around. [b]Darth i'm not looking for a list post from you at this point but do you have something more significant to contribute.[/] He tells me what he's not looking for which is a weird thing to say, while also trying to pressure me by saying in need to contribute something "more significant." Not only is that nebulous and vague, it's also really obvious. Everyone has to contribute meaningful things, and I think it's odd that he would accuse me of not doing that; I have been contributing more than most here. It almost seems like it should be a criticism leveled at someone like B0ston. The only other thing in his filter is that he doesn't like my "attitude" because of one post where I sounded defensive. That's like, your opinion man. Defensiveness is NAI imo so it's not a great point regardless. He also doesn't actually commit to any sort of read of me which is scummy considering the amount of attention he gives me Those who are town reading KSC, why?
I was for tone and careless posting but it's rapidly disappearing because he hasn't been here at all except to make a couple drive-by posts.
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On January 07 2017 13:15 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2017 13:13 SilverWolf77 wrote:On January 07 2017 12:49 Onegu wrote:On January 07 2017 12:47 SilverWolf77 wrote:
Also, asking a person to prove they are town is the crappiest play out there as no one needs to prove that. If they are town they show it with their posting. If they can't, then they get lynched. It's as simple as that.
No I am town because I claimed VT... Yeah, I don't see scum making this post to be honest or claiming VT out of the gate. I don't know whether this is serious or not but Onegu has done that in a lot of his games. It's not alignment specific for him.
Can you show me where he's done it as scum? I've found this more often comes from town than scum.
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On January 07 2017 13:26 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2017 13:23 SilverWolf77 wrote:On January 07 2017 13:15 Grackaroni wrote:On January 07 2017 13:13 SilverWolf77 wrote:On January 07 2017 12:49 Onegu wrote:On January 07 2017 12:47 SilverWolf77 wrote:
Also, asking a person to prove they are town is the crappiest play out there as no one needs to prove that. If they are town they show it with their posting. If they can't, then they get lynched. It's as simple as that.
No I am town because I claimed VT... Yeah, I don't see scum making this post to be honest or claiming VT out of the gate. I don't know whether this is serious or not but Onegu has done that in a lot of his games. It's not alignment specific for him. Can you show me where he's done it as scum? I've found this more often comes from town than scum. Use this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-databaseI checked the bottom 3 scum games excluding the pick your power one because that one revolves around people not being VT. It seems like he claims VT in every game.
Thanks, I'll look it over. If he's done it as scum, then he's back to null for me.
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On January 07 2017 14:17 Onegu wrote:
except some themed games where I cannot be VT but yeah all normal games I claim VT
Why?
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@Calix-Last game you played with Grack was it similar to this and what was his alignment then?
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Well, I asked Calix about his play because I wanted to see if it was just a personality/playstyle clash or it was actually scum motivated. I fail to see why town would get into a back and forth with someone who they are townreading and who is not voting them or pushing them as scum. Grack didn't do it to help ika read him nor did he do it get a better read on ika. Grack's behavior doesn't make much sense coming from town.
Now, let's look at ika. I feel like his question was more town motivated. He was scumreading Vivax and didn't have a townread on Grack so he wanted to figure out why Grack strong townread someone he was scumreading and also wanted to engage and figure out Grack. His question accomplishes both these goals. This is clear town motivation.
The argument looks like SvT with Grack being the S.
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