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ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 00:38 GMT
#321
On January 07 2017 02:01 Vivax wrote:
Should be a when*

Anyway.

I keep thinking it'd be cool if more people posted, this feels a lot like a clash between overeager townies which is what happens 80 % of the time in the average game of mafia.

I also feel a bit troubled by ika and Silver actually living together cause
they had little interaction at the start of the game, but then it wore off quickly.

And Silver was very eager to jump at me for apparently defending ika.
And ika brought ahead a similar argument where he said I was too sure of him being town.

Point being, they might have a common playstyle being a couple or whatever, and I don't really know how that plays out since they're new here. It did kinda feel concertated how they were bombarding me with accusations back there.

But it's just feels


I will say our playstyles do have similarity and some differences. Something we do a lot is defend each other if we think the other is town or feel like they are being attacked on weak reasoning. I know silver uses my interactions with others all the time to get reads just as i watch hers.
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 00:39 GMT
#322
On January 07 2017 09:38 darthfoley wrote:
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On January 07 2017 09:36 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 01:57 Calix wrote:
On January 07 2017 01:54 Vivax wrote:
On January 07 2017 01:52 Calix wrote:
On January 07 2017 01:48 Vivax wrote:
So far you and Ika both asked such loaded questions that already imply I did something I did not. Obviously you're not going to get a nice answer to "Do you always beat your wife" type of questions.


Your point?


If you ask shitty questions you get shitty answers


If you think playing 20 questions sucks then I'll let you do something else.

I'd rather take a nap or something than have a lengthy discussion tbh lol.


Calix why are you backing down? I find it odd your not being aggressive on this front and instead dropping this


Also a good point


Do yuo have anything that you want me to look into while i catch up? Am i still a null-scum read or such? have you posted a read list on players? if so could you make the post number and ill reference it as i catch up?
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 00:41 GMT
#323
On January 07 2017 02:49 darthfoley wrote:
I really want to hear more from the other vets, or noobs idc because the last few games I have played we've just mislynched town D1 for wrong reasons by focusing on one topic --> one wagon. It feels kind of off that only 4-5 people are participating in this discussion in any way right now


oddly enough, i don't have much on the notes of the noobs (outside of silverwolf).
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 07 2017 00:41 GMT
#324
On January 07 2017 08:39 Onegu wrote:
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On January 06 2017 09:42 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:40 Onegu wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:26 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:00 Onegu wrote:
VT claim


Why?



Why not?


Because it's anti-town. But maybe you guys do things different here. Who knows?



Why is it anti town?


It doesn't help town but it does help scum. They know you aren't a PR and can move on to someone else, increasing the likelihood of an actual PR being killed. It's also survivalistic when VT's shouldn't worry so much about avoiding a bullet at night.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 07 2017 00:43 GMT
#325
On January 07 2017 09:39 ika42 wrote:
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On January 07 2017 09:38 darthfoley wrote:
On January 07 2017 09:36 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 01:57 Calix wrote:
On January 07 2017 01:54 Vivax wrote:
On January 07 2017 01:52 Calix wrote:
On January 07 2017 01:48 Vivax wrote:
So far you and Ika both asked such loaded questions that already imply I did something I did not. Obviously you're not going to get a nice answer to "Do you always beat your wife" type of questions.


Your point?


If you ask shitty questions you get shitty answers


If you think playing 20 questions sucks then I'll let you do something else.

I'd rather take a nap or something than have a lengthy discussion tbh lol.


Calix why are you backing down? I find it odd your not being aggressive on this front and instead dropping this


Also a good point


Do yuo have anything that you want me to look into while i catch up? Am i still a null-scum read or such? have you posted a read list on players? if so could you make the post number and ill reference it as i catch up?


Town leans: SW, Calix, you
Scum leans: ME, Kelsier

I'm waiting for certain people to come into the thread and interact before I feel more confident in what I think
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 00:45 GMT
#326
On January 07 2017 04:56 reps)squishy wrote:
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On January 06 2017 23:37 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 06 2017 23:33 Vivax wrote:
On January 06 2017 23:32 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 06 2017 23:10 Vivax wrote:
On January 06 2017 23:07 ika42 wrote:
On January 06 2017 22:56 Vivax wrote:
On January 06 2017 22:28 ika42 wrote:
On January 06 2017 15:42 Vivax wrote:
On January 06 2017 15:39 darthfoley wrote:
[quote]

I've never seen Onegu play a non trolly game. It's within his meta either way, especially D1 lol


But you have seen ikas meta yes?


how come you are acting like i am town?


How does that question have anything to do with your alignment?

On January 06 2017 22:35 darthfoley wrote:
On January 06 2017 17:30 Vivax wrote:
On January 06 2017 16:25 darthfoley wrote:
[quote]

She asked me if I had picked up on anything else and that was the only thing I had found worth mentioning. I think it's hardly accurate to say that I'm trying to smear the dude.

It's refreshing to assess someone's motives without knowing meta. You're less likely to talk yourself out of gut reads. No idea why you find that problematic. You're acting like I'm on a crusade against the guy lol.


It's always easy to call out someone for being trolly or not contributive. And I don't see how that applies to him in particular. Even for yourself it's such a weak argument that you call it not a real read.

So I find it unusual that asked whether you saw something worth picking up, you do it over something that you didn't feel strongly about, and for something that is imo NAI (not alignment indicative for who doesn't know) at this stage.

So one possibility is you were simply being casual as town and throwing that out there even though for your play it will have little impact as you don't want to pursue that further. Then again that would mean that your answer to Calix "did you see something worthwhile" still wasn't answered and that you didn't find an avenue for finding scum there.

Or you are scum with the pressure that comes to post something looking useful well knowing that as long as you post something that you don't have to commit to, you're fine. And that post also falls in this category, too.

Now from this ambiguity why do I think that it makes you more likely mafia?
Scum that doesn't have a trolly town meta by default will be under pressure to look useful. Your filter apart from one or two posts seems like you are trying to look useful.

That post isn't something I believe you think to be useful.
Otherwise tell me why you believe it's useful. Achieves something for yourself besides satisfying a request that you would grant only to enhance your standing with the town, which is mafia play.


Yea scum try to appear useful. This is why I focused on ika compared to someone like Onegu. Ika started the game with this useful looking questionnaire thing that everyone agrees is NAI for everyone-- but it gets people talking!

Since that post it's basically been chummy with KSC and SW. I just feel like everything else in this game could've happened without using the questionnaire, which reminds me of the "appearance of utility" meta point.

Do you have any opinion of Grack or Calix atm?


Grack no opinion yet, as for calix I just let her do her thing as she's active and keeps delivering her view of the game. Right now I'm mostly waiting for you and Kelsier to post more as your posts are what I'm concentrating the most on at the moment.

So do you actually believe you have something on ika or not? That he tried to appear useful with the questionnaire is I think not an argument you mentioned earlier.


i asked you a question, i do not expect a question in return. I expect an answer. If you have a question after that then you can ask.


Your question already implies that I guessed your alignment, which is wrong, so it can't be answered.

On January 06 2017 23:07 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 06 2017 14:13 Vivax wrote:
Is there anyone here who actually didn't play mafia before, or just very very little?

On January 06 2017 11:31 darthfoley wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:43 Calix wrote:
I sense I'll have an aneurysm at this rate.

DF, you seem sensible. What else have you noticed so far?


I actually feel weird about ika. Asked the kinda useless questionnaire and has basically been bs'ing a bit since. Not a real read but I find his opening a little off


This read looks forced. I mean, you will say it isn't a read I know, but we both know it kind of is. And to me it just looks like you were looking for someone to make look guilty easily to fulfill Calix demand.

Fend yourself, Foley.


Vivax-Why are you defending ika so early in the game?


Suspecting someone doesn't mean I'm defending his scumreads, which you are assuming I do.


When you are interjecting yourself into a person's suspicion of someone else, without letting him scumhunt ika, then that means you think ika is town. Otherwise, you would want ika to respond first to get a read on him. I get going after someone for having what you think is a bad read on someone else, but this is spending too much time defending a person who you have not even given an opinion on yet but are acting like he's town. I would like your read on ika. Is he town or not and why?


So right now you're interjecting in my suspicion on foley and hence townreading him? You should have realized by now that it's not how this is going to work.


And you should realize by now that your constant deflection and this kind of attitude doesn't work with me at all.

I don't see how you can be town so I'm gonna go ahead and place my vote here.


You don't see how he can be town? I see you did vote for him. Can you elaborate what makes you feel this way for a more oblivious individual such as myself.


Do you see it as town?
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 00:48 GMT
#327
On January 07 2017 06:00 Calix wrote:
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On January 07 2017 05:56 Kmatt wrote:
On January 07 2017 05:50 Calix wrote:
That depends on the player re: judging whether reads are gut calls or not.

1. So active-lurking? I kinda like the way you worded your Boston read with the "if he used that as pressure" part because it shows you're thinking about scenarios in some level of depth.

2. Why did you bring in KSC's opinion of Grack in your read? This would make sense if you were town-reading KSC a lot and going "well I think he's being genuine with his Grack read" or something but you're gut-reading KSC as town so that's not applicable.

3. To clarify, when I say I like/ dislike something, that's synonymous with a town/ scum lean.

4. Noted.

5. I wasn't aware that you were the type to just focus on one scum-read at a time. I remember your last game where you were hunting for three players in a 2-mafia save - what changed with regards to your mentality?

6. You don't have to ask stuff unless you want to clarify matters, just state your reads and let the people respond to them. Much better approach than grilling every single player.




I have to do something but to answer 5: that was a combination of misreading the OP and having 3 potential scum at the time. I'm not bound to force more reads than I see. Right now I only see one and various degrees of ambiguity. If I had multiple deliberate scumreads I would announce it as well as whichever one is a higher priority.


When you say stuff like this, it makes me wonder if I'm even talking to the same person as last game. Pretty annoying since I now can't compare your play with previous games with much confidence.


why not? and link to that game? whats different?
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 00:51 GMT
#328
On January 07 2017 06:31 SilverWolf77 wrote:
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On January 06 2017 22:25 ika42 wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:59 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:57 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:55 KelsierSC wrote:

so how you reading ika atm?


Slight townread based on posting the questions to get us talking and his activity and interest in the game so far. But he may be just copying his town meta so I'm keeping an eye on him still.


yeh...like if i was you that is what I would be thinking if I was town.

i have to go into work tomorrow unfortunately but only for like 1hr so should be on tomorrow.

I know it seems like i've just been jerking off in the thread, and whilst this is true I think Calix, silver and ika are probably town and everyone else is kind of blegh.

Grak is mafia though, im pretty happy with my vote at the moment.


This post gets my vote.



ika, when you get on, can you explain this vote? Why does this post make you scumread KelsierSC?


the bolded part, he refers to himself in that part and says "if i was town" so i see it that he is saying hes not town. And for the previous i read it as separate compared to the bolded.

the reason why i didn't jump it out sooner is i wanted someone to ask and see if others would see it before i said it
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 00:56 GMT
#329
On January 07 2017 07:58 Grackaroni wrote:
I think Vivax's posts have been really townie.

Of the active players I think that DF is the most likely one to be scum.

Parts of his opening seem awkward to me like he is trying too hard.
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2017 10:04 darthfoley wrote:
Salutations friends! May the odds be ever in our favor because we have such wonderful mods!

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On January 06 2017 10:19 darthfoley wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:16 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:13 Calix wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:11 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:10 Calix wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:07 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:02 Calix wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:01 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:53 Calix wrote:
[quote]

I'm flagging up this post because I think it's a possible example of an inexperienced scum player struggling to enter the thread. I didn't even notice this dude had posted.

- Using an easy way of entering the thread (via questionnaire thing) to make a post which doesn't tell us anything
- Adds a completely useless question about the vote (the 'obligatory' part pings me here)
- Does nothing afterwards


he was one of the first questionnaire responses though , want to look at all the late answers who thought they had best fill one out so they didnt stick out.


It was the first one that stuck out to me as awkward/ forced.

However I'm interested in your take on 'blendy' answers.


well im not making a ground breaking finding but mafia generally try to blend in and make non commital or mimic posts right so they might have thought answering a list of questions which everyone else was doing is a good idea.

probably not relevant here as the questionnaire was hardly insightful and i dont want to start a circle jerk with, well you posted 5th so you are scum. the whole exercise got me some good reads so not entirely pointless and now the the game is moving.


Nothing is going to be ground-breaking at this point so that qualifier (from DF too in the post above) is 100% unnecessary.

I didn't approach the questionnaires like that. The VCA-style "X voter/ poster is scum" thing is useless as a metric.

What "good" reads do you have?


yo just calm down alright


My emotional state is irrelevant to the question.

You claim to have reads, I'm asking for them. What's the point of saying "I have reads" and then be stubborn about sharing them?


so what I did is I checked the order in which people responded to the questionnaire and the first ones to respond are clear town until we get to the people who were like 4th and onwards who are likely scum. 100% accurate




So what does that mean in terms of practicality?

Name, give the me wretched name!

Obligatory
+ Show Spoiler +


I also think that Vivax may have a point that he could have been trying to push out a read on ika to impress since he said that he didn't like ika making trolly posts and then proceeded to make a few of his own.
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On January 06 2017 15:11 darthfoley wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:52 Calix wrote:
I am too tired to bang my head against the wall since it's 2am.

I won't be very active until late afternoon/ evening or so but that doesn't matter. My low-activity play is ten times better than most people's normal play.

Goodnight!


Great excuse for OMGUS (omg u suck) later on if you're scum!

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On January 06 2017 15:13 darthfoley wrote:
On January 06 2017 11:16 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:04 darthfoley wrote:
Salutations friends! May the odds be ever in our favor because we have such wonderful mods!

This isn't a bastard game silly. You should have offered favors in the pregame like I did.


Favors, you say?
$5 for an hj
$10 for a bj
$15 for a zj



what about them is town?
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 07 2017 00:58 GMT
#330
On January 07 2017 08:53 Calix wrote:
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On January 07 2017 08:48 darthfoley wrote:
On January 07 2017 08:36 Calix wrote:
On January 07 2017 08:31 darthfoley wrote:
@Calix Like do you really expect every player who goes AFK for a period of time to provide a reason why? If so, I can wait for the impending doom for btdt and Onegu lol


I don't know what you're referring to here since I explicitly said that I didn't care about AFKing on its own.

Who exactly do you want lynched if not Boston or what have you?


Well I think ME has done everything you're accusing B0ston of, but worse. I like reps' questions but I dont remember him having any concrete reads yet, which concerns me.

I'm also waiting for Onegu/Kelsier/btdt to catch up and/post anything. I don't know why people are town reading Kelsier, he's a scum read for me at the moment


Yeah and I have a scum-lean on ME although I don't get how he can do worse when he just exists. Actually read my posts so I don't have to repeat myself. I'm tired.

Oh? For what reason?


Regarding Kelsier

I find the beginning of this post particularly awkward

On January 06 2017 10:59 KelsierSC wrote:
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On January 06 2017 10:57 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:55 KelsierSC wrote:

so how you reading ika atm?


Slight townread based on posting the questions to get us talking and his activity and interest in the game so far. But he may be just copying his town meta so I'm keeping an eye on him still.


yeh...like if i was you that is what I would be thinking if I was town.

i have to go into work tomorrow unfortunately but only for like 1hr so should be on tomorrow.

I know it seems like i've just been jerking off in the thread, and whilst this is true I think Calix, silver and ika are probably town and everyone else is kind of blegh.

Grak is mafia though, im pretty happy with my vote at the moment.


It's a little too much explanation for a town read. Maybe this is unfair of me but he mentions how he should be on tomorrow (today) but I don't think he's posted once today. Real life can be a complicated though so idk.

I also feel like he jumped on Vivax's questioning of me in scum fashion.

On January 06 2017 20:14 KelsierSC wrote:
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On January 06 2017 17:30 Vivax wrote:
On January 06 2017 16:25 darthfoley wrote:
On January 06 2017 16:14 Vivax wrote:
On January 06 2017 15:48 darthfoley wrote:
On January 06 2017 15:42 Vivax wrote:
On January 06 2017 15:39 darthfoley wrote:
On January 06 2017 15:30 Vivax wrote:
On January 06 2017 15:21 darthfoley wrote:
On January 06 2017 14:13 Vivax wrote:
Is there anyone here who actually didn't play mafia before, or just very very little?

[quote]

This read looks forced. I mean, you will say it isn't a read I know, but we both know it kind of is. And to me it just looks like you were looking for someone to make look guilty easily to fulfill Calix demand.

Fend yourself, Foley.


Forced how? Of course it's a read, but it's a D1 read 3 hours in. Forgive me if i'm not wow'd by someone asking nebulous or irrelevant questions about self meta that could easily be bullshitted.

His play since is more trolly than I prefer, except regarding the point on Calix's scum play which is actually useful.



Why not 1gu then?


I've never seen Onegu play a non trolly game. It's within his meta either way, especially D1 lol


But you have seen ikas meta yes?


No, I don't know the guy


Idk why you are eager to suspect someone for not being super serious at the beginning of the game, when clearly you don't even know how he usually plays. So that's why I'm saying your read is forced, it looked like you found something worth smearing for the sake of itself cause calix asked you to dig something up.


She asked me if I had picked up on anything else and that was the only thing I had found worth mentioning. I think it's hardly accurate to say that I'm trying to smear the dude.

It's refreshing to assess someone's motives without knowing meta. You're less likely to talk yourself out of gut reads. No idea why you find that problematic. You're acting like I'm on a crusade against the guy lol.


It's always easy to call out someone for being trolly or not contributive. And I don't see how that applies to him in particular. Even for yourself it's such a weak argument that you call it not a real read.

So I find it unusual that asked whether you saw something worth picking up, you do it over something that you didn't feel strongly about, and for something that is imo NAI (not alignment indicative for who doesn't know) at this stage.

So one possibility is you were simply being casual as town and throwing that out there even though for your play it will have little impact as you don't want to pursue that further. Then again that would mean that your answer to Calix "did you see something worthwhile" still wasn't answered and that you didn't find an avenue for finding scum there.

Or you are scum with the pressure that comes to post something looking useful well knowing that as long as you post something that you don't have to commit to, you're fine. And that post also falls in this category, too.

Now from this ambiguity why do I think that it makes you more likely mafia?
Scum that doesn't have a trolly town meta by default will be under pressure to look useful. Your filter apart from one or two posts seems like you are trying to look useful.

That post isn't something I believe you think to be useful.
Otherwise tell me why you believe it's useful. Achieves something for yourself besides satisfying a request that you would grant only to enhance your standing with the town, which is mafia play.


I like this approach from vivax. Got Darth in the boat and he's still flopping around.

[b]Darth i'm not looking for a list post from you at this point but do you have something more significant to contribute.[/]


He tells me what he's not looking for which is a weird thing to say, while also trying to pressure me by saying in need to contribute something "more significant." Not only is that nebulous and vague, it's also really obvious. Everyone has to contribute meaningful things, and I think it's odd that he would accuse me of not doing that; I have been contributing more than most here. It almost seems like it should be a criticism leveled at someone like B0ston.

The only other thing in his filter is that he doesn't like my "attitude" because of one post where I sounded defensive. That's like, your opinion man. Defensiveness is NAI imo so it's not a great point regardless. He also doesn't actually commit to any sort of read of me which is scummy considering the amount of attention he gives me

watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 00:58 GMT
#331
On January 07 2017 08:39 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2017 09:42 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:40 Onegu wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:26 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:00 Onegu wrote:
VT claim


Why?



Why not?


Because it's anti-town. But maybe you guys do things different here. Who knows?



Why is it anti town?


why is it pro-town?
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 01:00 GMT
#332
On January 07 2017 09:43 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2017 09:39 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 09:38 darthfoley wrote:
On January 07 2017 09:36 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 01:57 Calix wrote:
On January 07 2017 01:54 Vivax wrote:
On January 07 2017 01:52 Calix wrote:
On January 07 2017 01:48 Vivax wrote:
So far you and Ika both asked such loaded questions that already imply I did something I did not. Obviously you're not going to get a nice answer to "Do you always beat your wife" type of questions.


Your point?


If you ask shitty questions you get shitty answers


If you think playing 20 questions sucks then I'll let you do something else.

I'd rather take a nap or something than have a lengthy discussion tbh lol.


Calix why are you backing down? I find it odd your not being aggressive on this front and instead dropping this


Also a good point


Do yuo have anything that you want me to look into while i catch up? Am i still a null-scum read or such? have you posted a read list on players? if so could you make the post number and ill reference it as i catch up?


Town leans: SW, Calix, you
Scum leans: ME, Kelsier

I'm waiting for certain people to come into the thread and interact before I feel more confident in what I think


ty


ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 01:02 GMT
#333
so now that im caught up heres my read list that i have compiled

1) reps)squishy - null
2) Kmatt -null
3) MichaelEhrmantraut -null
4) ika42 -town
5) SilverWolf77 - town
6) B0stonSC - newb town

Vets
1) beentheredonethat - null
2) Grackaroni- null
3) KelsierSC - scum
4) Onegu - claims VT
5) darthfoley - town lean
6) Calix -null
7) Vivax - scum lean

i have way too many nulls for my liking overall.
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 01:09 GMT
#334
On January 07 2017 10:02 ika42 wrote:
so now that im caught up heres my read list that i have compiled

1) reps)squishy - sligth town
2) Kmatt - slight town
3) MichaelEhrmantraut - lean scum
4) ika42 -town
5) SilverWolf77 - town
6) B0stonSC - -null

Vets
1) beentheredonethat - null
2) Grackaroni- null
3) KelsierSC - scum
4) Onegu - claims VT
5) darthfoley - town lean
6) Calix -null
7) Vivax - scum lean

i have way too many nulls for my liking overall.


updated after running iso on the newbs

im gonna get food bbl
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 07 2017 01:13 GMT
#335
On January 07 2017 07:58 Grackaroni wrote:
I think Vivax's posts have been really townie.


How so?



Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 07 2017 01:27 GMT
#336
On January 07 2017 09:56 ika42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2017 07:58 Grackaroni wrote:
I think Vivax's posts have been really townie.

Of the active players I think that DF is the most likely one to be scum.

Parts of his opening seem awkward to me like he is trying too hard.
On January 06 2017 10:04 darthfoley wrote:
Salutations friends! May the odds be ever in our favor because we have such wonderful mods!

On January 06 2017 10:19 darthfoley wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:16 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:13 Calix wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:11 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:10 Calix wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:07 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:02 Calix wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:01 KelsierSC wrote:
[quote]

he was one of the first questionnaire responses though , want to look at all the late answers who thought they had best fill one out so they didnt stick out.


It was the first one that stuck out to me as awkward/ forced.

However I'm interested in your take on 'blendy' answers.


well im not making a ground breaking finding but mafia generally try to blend in and make non commital or mimic posts right so they might have thought answering a list of questions which everyone else was doing is a good idea.

probably not relevant here as the questionnaire was hardly insightful and i dont want to start a circle jerk with, well you posted 5th so you are scum. the whole exercise got me some good reads so not entirely pointless and now the the game is moving.


Nothing is going to be ground-breaking at this point so that qualifier (from DF too in the post above) is 100% unnecessary.

I didn't approach the questionnaires like that. The VCA-style "X voter/ poster is scum" thing is useless as a metric.

What "good" reads do you have?


yo just calm down alright


My emotional state is irrelevant to the question.

You claim to have reads, I'm asking for them. What's the point of saying "I have reads" and then be stubborn about sharing them?


so what I did is I checked the order in which people responded to the questionnaire and the first ones to respond are clear town until we get to the people who were like 4th and onwards who are likely scum. 100% accurate




So what does that mean in terms of practicality?

Name, give the me wretched name!

Obligatory
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC_jddH_0MI


I also think that Vivax may have a point that he could have been trying to push out a read on ika to impress since he said that he didn't like ika making trolly posts and then proceeded to make a few of his own.
On January 06 2017 15:11 darthfoley wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:52 Calix wrote:
I am too tired to bang my head against the wall since it's 2am.

I won't be very active until late afternoon/ evening or so but that doesn't matter. My low-activity play is ten times better than most people's normal play.

Goodnight!


Great excuse for OMGUS (omg u suck) later on if you're scum!

On January 06 2017 15:13 darthfoley wrote:
On January 06 2017 11:16 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:04 darthfoley wrote:
Salutations friends! May the odds be ever in our favor because we have such wonderful mods!

This isn't a bastard game silly. You should have offered favors in the pregame like I did.


Favors, you say?
$5 for an hj
$10 for a bj
$15 for a zj



what about them is town?

I liked his pressure on DF and I've liked all of his responses to being pressured. Really I don't see a single meh post in the bunch.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 07 2017 01:28 GMT
#337
Onegu is also scummy. I think there's a very low chance that he doesn't understand how his play is usually read by a new player. He's been shit posting for too many years now.
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 01:52 GMT
#338
On January 07 2017 10:27 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2017 09:56 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 07:58 Grackaroni wrote:
I think Vivax's posts have been really townie.

Of the active players I think that DF is the most likely one to be scum.

Parts of his opening seem awkward to me like he is trying too hard.
On January 06 2017 10:04 darthfoley wrote:
Salutations friends! May the odds be ever in our favor because we have such wonderful mods!

On January 06 2017 10:19 darthfoley wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:16 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:13 Calix wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:11 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:10 Calix wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:07 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:02 Calix wrote:
[quote]

It was the first one that stuck out to me as awkward/ forced.

However I'm interested in your take on 'blendy' answers.


well im not making a ground breaking finding but mafia generally try to blend in and make non commital or mimic posts right so they might have thought answering a list of questions which everyone else was doing is a good idea.

probably not relevant here as the questionnaire was hardly insightful and i dont want to start a circle jerk with, well you posted 5th so you are scum. the whole exercise got me some good reads so not entirely pointless and now the the game is moving.


Nothing is going to be ground-breaking at this point so that qualifier (from DF too in the post above) is 100% unnecessary.

I didn't approach the questionnaires like that. The VCA-style "X voter/ poster is scum" thing is useless as a metric.

What "good" reads do you have?


yo just calm down alright


My emotional state is irrelevant to the question.

You claim to have reads, I'm asking for them. What's the point of saying "I have reads" and then be stubborn about sharing them?


so what I did is I checked the order in which people responded to the questionnaire and the first ones to respond are clear town until we get to the people who were like 4th and onwards who are likely scum. 100% accurate




So what does that mean in terms of practicality?

Name, give the me wretched name!

Obligatory
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC_jddH_0MI


I also think that Vivax may have a point that he could have been trying to push out a read on ika to impress since he said that he didn't like ika making trolly posts and then proceeded to make a few of his own.
On January 06 2017 15:11 darthfoley wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:52 Calix wrote:
I am too tired to bang my head against the wall since it's 2am.

I won't be very active until late afternoon/ evening or so but that doesn't matter. My low-activity play is ten times better than most people's normal play.

Goodnight!


Great excuse for OMGUS (omg u suck) later on if you're scum!

On January 06 2017 15:13 darthfoley wrote:
On January 06 2017 11:16 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:04 darthfoley wrote:
Salutations friends! May the odds be ever in our favor because we have such wonderful mods!

This isn't a bastard game silly. You should have offered favors in the pregame like I did.


Favors, you say?
$5 for an hj
$10 for a bj
$15 for a zj



what about them is town?

I liked his pressure on DF and I've liked all of his responses to being pressured. Really I don't see a single meh post in the bunch.


explain using his posts and why they are town.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 07 2017 01:59 GMT
#339
Ika please prove to me that you are not scum.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 07 2017 02:05 GMT
#340
Which of your posts are townie? Can you tell me why they are townie?
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