Liquidmania Qualifier #1

On December 16 2016 07:32 Holyflare wrote:


I will also be in bed, don't be a little bitch.

On December 19 2016 10:44 Holyflare wrote:



Thanks man, that's really kind of you.

Expect me to actually try hard this game because I want that title back and I have the holidays off!

On December 19 2016 17:36 Koshi wrote:
##Vote: Alakaslam

Best plynch. Also most mafia entry.

On December 19 2016 19:15 Koshi wrote:
It's a plynch 99%. Don't worry about the 1% because it is bad.

On December 19 2016 19:43 Koshi wrote:

Gossip girl?

On December 20 2016 02:35 Kmatt wrote:
Actually HFs bit about mafia skating by makes sense. Still standing by that Exo is scummy.

On December 20 2016 02:49 Holyflare wrote:
Disfo you gonna take a stance now he's had his temper tantrum?

On December 20 2016 03:01 Koshi wrote:

Because the Exo wagon is not the cool kids wagon anymore I am voting this guy.

##unvote
##vote disformation

I don't think he replied to HF his point when he made it initially. Replying here is a bit off maybe.

On December 20 2016 02:15 ExO_ wrote:


What if they aren't mafia? I don't like being called mafia at all. Especially for bullshit reasons. Literally look at the end of the most recent game I played. If you think this is getting "tilted" then I get tilted easily I guess. I don't understand why I'm not allowed to be tilted, especially when I say one sentence and am immediately voted and teamed by 2 people.

Either way it's far too early in the thread for me to lock into both of them being mafia. So I can't just brush them off entirely. THAT would be a scummy thing to do.

On December 20 2016 01:57 ExO_ wrote:


I couldn't care in the slightest about being on thin ice with you. You're a loose cannon. But how can I answer questions if you haven't even asked any?

On December 20 2016 02:09 ExO_ wrote:


.....what. That's literally the first thing I implied, and have continued with. just wat

On December 20 2016 02:15 ExO_ wrote:


What if they aren't mafia? I don't like being called mafia at all. Especially for bullshit reasons. Literally look at the end of the most recent game I played. If you think this is getting "tilted" then I get tilted easily I guess. I don't understand why I'm not allowed to be tilted, especially when I say one sentence and am immediately voted and teamed by 2 people.

Either way it's far too early in the thread for me to lock into both of them being mafia. So I can't just brush them off entirely. THAT would be a scummy thing to do.

On December 20 2016 03:28 Alakaslam wrote:

When did SL get this pass to scumclaim?

Why is that kind of shit tolerated what

What is his meta now?

On December 20 2016 04:18 Koshi wrote:

Why is slam out of your PoE?

I hope it is a really good reason.

On December 20 2016 03:31 Alakaslam wrote:

Lol why am I in this list I may as well have been inactive

On December 20 2016 04:14 Holyflare wrote:
disfo did you think those things about exo at the time or just now?

On December 20 2016 02:28 disformation wrote:
Reread this twice, but I am getting confused.
@ExO_
Recap your reads please: do you think Kmatt (and to an lesser extend koshi?) are scum/scummy or not?
Who should think who is suspcious/not suspicious?

and yeah I think I would prefer small words n stuff :p

On December 20 2016 04:24 Koshi wrote:

Yeah your reasoning is terrible. It's not because it is slam you shouldn't hold him to a high standard.
Everything slam did is well within his scum meta. It is not because he is simpler to understand this game that he is town. That's not how it works. Pretty easy post for scum!slam to make.

On December 20 2016 04:10 Holyflare wrote:
What I want to know though is why you gave SL a free town read for posting. If he had only posted his 0-1 other lines of posts do you think he would have started to be scum read instead?

On December 20 2016 04:28 Holyflare wrote:


yeah, that's what I thought

but this post was followed by this post:



so what I'm feeling weird about is that you don't have any scum reads on anybody but then come out to scum reading exo and making that big post on him

why didn't you just post this in the first place instead of holding things back and playing coy with people's reads on you?

On December 20 2016 04:30 Holyflare wrote:


also in regards to this, you posted:



now that you#ve admitted that it would be in the lands of 0 content and nothing happening, why do you equate that activity to a town lean rather than someone being forced to post minimal 0 content to appear active?

it's a weird conclusion leap and that's particularly why I didn't like it

On December 20 2016 04:36 Koshi wrote:
disformation. Your problem is that your reads boil down to "everybody is town unless I have something bad to say about them."

You have called somebody town 3 times this game when the correct read is null.
You have not been pushing the game forward.
You feel absent but are lurking.
You said once too many that you have no reads, or that it is hard to gain reads.
You called HF & me mafia.

On December 20 2016 04:40 Holyflare wrote:
but that point hasn't changed since when you posted, sicklucker posted that comment and left and that was ages before you made your comment

On December 20 2016 04:44 disformation wrote:

Think I just wanted to post my opinion about that since other ppl were talking about that a bit.

On December 20 2016 04:43 disformation wrote:

Yeah sry having a bit of a difficulty getting into the game properly. sry.

On December 20 2016 05:02 Kmatt wrote:
Seriously though is Rels even aware that we started? His most recent post was from last Thursday.

On December 20 2016 06:42 Holyflare wrote:
why are you so self defeatist this game disfo?

On December 20 2016 07:39 Koshi wrote:
Well. disformation might be looking scummy. At this rate I can't lynch him.

##unvote
##vote sicklucker

On December 20 2016 07:46 Koshi wrote:

You are scummy but I am not lynching you.

On December 20 2016 19:33 Rels wrote:
K I was wrong. Still I'm fucking annoyed at the fucking negativity I received.

This is bad since he has no read on ExO but is OK to lynch him multiple posts

On December 20 2016 19:40 Rels wrote:

I have a problem with that. Your whole "recap" post on him was looking like you were gonna say he's a null read or something like that. There is a disconnect with your reasonning and ExO being your main scumread.

On December 20 2016 19:42 Rels wrote:

You JUST JUSTIFIED YOURSELF saying he's in your POE

On December 20 2016 19:43 Rels wrote:

Then replace "main scumread" by "main lynch candidate".

On December 20 2016 19:46 Alakaslam wrote:

Expand on it?

I read your stuff earlier today and I found it to be unnatural

That's a read of sorts. It's how some of us work, less concrete you might say.

On December 20 2016 18:45 Rels wrote:
Kmatt might be townier that I thought. I didn't like his early posts but that's because I didn't understand the logic. The rest of his filter is pretty natural, especially on exo, and I don't remember Kmatt being a good scum in the last game he played. I will have to reread it at some point to verify that thought.

On December 20 2016 20:14 Koshi wrote:

Your point?

On December 20 2016 20:16 disformation wrote:

*sigh* should probably said so the first time. xD

I am not 100% sure cause his points on rels arent bad and I might be biased.
But I get a bit of an opportunistic feeling of of this. As in: he might not be looking for scum, but for an ml.

On December 20 2016 20:07 disformation wrote:
If ExO_ had put in a few reads, especially like a scumread, with his latest wall, I would be feeling a lot better about him.

I don't really like SL wanting to lynch both kmatt and exo without much of an explanation. And I still want him to properly explain the kmatt thing.

slam is a bit of an ???.

On December 20 2016 20:35 Koshi wrote:

Good job going for the easy answer on that post and completely ignore the analysis I made on Alakaslam being more likely town for that change of vote. Which is the opposite conclusion you had on that "event".


Such a drag.

On December 20 2016 21:34 Koshi wrote:
Like who is mafia with Exo at this point?

On December 20 2016 22:06 Holyflare wrote:
I realise that post isn't well formulated but to break it down:

ExO's game where he claims VT isn't in the database.
Disformation therefore knows he's done this before, rage et al.



Disformation states the start of this game was just like that one.
Disformation didn't mention any of this at the start of the game at all.
Disformation didn't even factor it in at all.
Disformation wants to hop on hip bandwagon.

On December 20 2016 22:11 Koshi wrote:
I can see so many easy partners with disformation as well.

How Rels waffled 2 times on disformation, and even in his Exo vote said something about disformation. Or was that another post?

Sicklucker same. He just forces the pressure away from disformation and puts it somewhere else on a very unnatural way .


I had the feeling the lynch needed to be within these 3 names quite early and for some reason they all 3 can't push away the feeling they are mafia. Rels was the closest.

On December 20 2016 21:33 Koshi wrote:
I am also pretty suspicious that sicklucker is bullshitting about this mindmeld thing. I feel like his posts don't add up chronologically.

On December 20 2016 21:09 sicklucker wrote:
so ya me and rels both had independently the same idea unless you think im bullshitting about not reading the thread. easy town reads boys

On December 20 2016 22:20 Holyflare wrote:


Where did you mention this at all?

On December 20 2016 21:18 disformation wrote:
So. There was a recent game where exo was lynched D1 as VT.
Link to his filter

First post he claims VT.
Gets voted by Calix for that.
Immediately OMGUSES Calix.

Then he starts to actually play the game.
As the time for the lynch approaches:
+ Show Spoiler +

Conclusion:
There are a bunch of similarities. Esp. at the start of the game.
Tonewise I think his tone is way more over the top this game than it was in the game I linked.
But as I said again and again: he has absolutely 0 reads this game.
Look at his filter. Look at the two posts I quoted.
See the difference?

Imo ExO_ was actually a pretty easy town read in the game I linked. He had a wonky start, but after that he started actually playing and made good posts. This game we only have a huge appeal to emotion.

##vote ExO_

On December 20 2016 22:48 Holyflare wrote:
Why
Didn't
You
Mention
This
At
The
Time
?

On December 20 2016 22:46 Holyflare wrote:
So you knew exo played liked this before.
You didn't say a word earlier.
You said you didn't want to comment on it.
You made a big post that didn't mention it.
The game isn't in the database so you read it and knew because you were there at the time.
You make that post.
I call you out on the above.
You quote your late cycle post saying you mention it early????

On December 20 2016 22:15 disformation wrote:

I was in obs this game, forgot about until someone mentioned it (might have been rels).
Was bored adn decided to look at it.

and i def. mention that the start of the game is similar. the big difference is what happens afterward. He starts to play a good town game and by the time he looks like the def. lynch the posts I quoted happen.
Looks like day and night to this game.

timing checks out. there should at least be some decent posts by exo here by now.

On December 20 2016 21:09 sicklucker wrote:
so ya me and rels both had independently the same idea unless you think im bullshitting about not reading the thread. easy town reads boys

On December 20 2016 21:15 sicklucker wrote:
Like I dont even care if exos town and we mislynch. im never voting rels for the rest of the game.

I give you my word 100% this coincidence of reads is too sick to ignore. Since I posted my reads after you psoted your probably just gonna be paranoid and think this is some ploy but from my perspective you had already posted this shit I just diddnt reaD it and then I posted the same shit before reading it

On December 20 2016 21:15 sicklucker wrote:
Like I dont even care if exos town and we mislynch. im never voting rels for the rest of the game.

I give you my word 100% this coincidence of reads is too sick to ignore. Since I posted my reads after you psoted your probably just gonna be paranoid and think this is some ploy but from my perspective you had already posted this shit I just diddnt reaD it and then I posted the same shit before reading it

On December 21 2016 00:07 sicklucker wrote:
I have never tried to do that as mafia before is what im saying. so completely dismissing it because "i could fake it" with actual evidence that i have never tried to fake my posting style as mafia . is a pretty mafia thing to do

All im saying is why is it any different this time? If i was Ls i would be town read for the game for meta reasons

On December 21 2016 00:10 sicklucker wrote:
I dont think ill lynch anyone but exo or slam today

On December 21 2016 00:24 Koshi wrote:
Could Kmatt and Exo be mafia partners? That little outburst at the start? Was it odd?

On December 20 2016 03:24 Kmatt wrote:


I'm phone posting and it's cold, give me a break.

To be honest I don't like where this is going. Looks like a repeat of my NSM game where I was under scrutiny, NocturneMage questioned me gently before levelling off and got someone else lynched. This sudden interest in disinformation, while justifiable, looks like it has mafia influence.

On December 21 2016 01:05 Holyflare wrote:
Seeing the posts from his other town game, consistently bad. Um, isn't the whole premise that it's wildly different from his town game?

Bae caught me slippin?

On December 20 2016 13:00 ExO_ wrote:
Just got home from work. Jesus Christ though, this is just like touhou mafia. Scum read on day 1 for bullshit.

'll tell you this much: I'm VT. Every time I've claimed VT on TL mafia forums I have been VT, check for yourself if you don't believe me. Yeah yeah, I'm helping scum blue hunt blah blah blah (though we don't even know if there is a blue in this game) but I feel like this is the best way I can help town. Day 1 is always a shit show. And what you're getting from me is my thoughts as I get them in my head. I'm not carefully thinking them through about how it would make me look, I'm just laying them out. If you want to come up with some bullshit justification for why that makes me scum, then fine. I get tilted and I know it. I also know that it puts me into a great position to look at the thread and gauge the reactions to the scum read of me, and use that information to figure out who might be scum. But I'm not gonna lie right now it's hard to want to do that.

And @rels idk what you were reading, but HF repeatedly asked me about the disinfo thing. It's why I went back to it multiple times to explain to him what he didn't seem to understand. Regardless I was tilted and operating from the assumption that kmatt/Koshi would be scum together. They might not be, but I felt like I was getting gang banged right of the gate by them and I was tunneled on them.

I don't know what else you want from me. I've never been a player (esp on day 1) that's been good at diving filters and pointing out inconsistencies, scum-meta reads, etc...I've always been better at fighting to show others I am town. You might not like it, but that's the player I am. If everyone has already decided that somehow my play this game makes me scum and/or is going to be patronizing assholes (a la HF) then I don't know what else I can do. But if people are actually willing to work with me then I can show that I'm town.

On November 05 2016 01:19 ExO_ wrote:
I just woke up, and I have to run errands. I'll probably be back before EoD but I can't swear to it. What I will say is this:

I came into the thread just saying whatever I felt like. It's how I always play town. I don't try to carefully construct my posts I just say whats on my mind. I did a lot of OMGUS. When I finally sat and calmly looked at the game, I put a little suspicion on DF/Skynx because of short filter, and rels for a similar reason. But I've been attacked for switching views, for not tunneling, for tunneling at the start, and a whole variety of other things.

I don't know exactly how I could defend myself at this point. I've done my best to make you realize that I'm town. But a LOT of people are tunneling on me. I'm not sure what else I'd have to do to prove I'm town.

The idea that I had a scum slip is a complete joke. If I die today:

Lynch TT/Rels. Both are experienced townies yet are moronically pushing this lynch. Especially TT. After that I would look for people who coasted and just hopped on the wagon day 1.

Do not Lynch Calix: Calix is the most most obviously confirmed town here. I want to say NU as well because of filter length, but I'm not sure.


Anywho I'm running some errands now like I said. I should be back before EoD but my motivation to play this game is basically out the window.

On October 29 2016 20:03 ExO_ wrote:
Why is it I go away for a bit and SL comes in and starts claiming I'm mafia left and right? I'm sorry I'm not the best player in this game but I did at least make an attempt to help town. idk what else you want me to do.

Regardless I still think Tube is mafia. He never did really explain adequately why he moved the way he did. For me that leaves

Tube/Kurumi/SL/Skynx as the most likely list of scum

On December 21 2016 04:57 Holyflare wrote:
It's probably a case of he's bad as playing as mafia and can't be bothered to argue. I wish people actually played as mafia though it's boring as shit otherwise.

On December 21 2016 06:26 Holyflare wrote:


What??? There's literally a meta case saying he's exactly mafia.

On December 21 2016 06:33 Holyflare wrote:
Ls give me a quick summar of what you saw in exo's town games and why you haven't proposed a new lynch target.

On December 21 2016 06:58 disformation wrote:
Well Slam graciously avoided talking about exo at _all_

On December 21 2016 07:06 Koshi wrote:

Meh. His play is so odd. I am just not sure it is mafia. If he flips mafia I probably shrug and say, ok, that was pretty terrible mafia play, but if he flips town I will feel regret and think, that was pretty terrible town play.

On December 21 2016 07:09 Koshi wrote:

bad one liner.

Do you think ExO would come back to the thread like this as mafia? We can agree he at least wasn't lurking and came back with a plan right?

On December 21 2016 07:15 Koshi wrote:

I forgot about his WoT list post earlier. NU did it as mafia as well last game around that time D1. Bought cred with it.

Same thing here?

On December 21 2016 04:42 disformation wrote:
Was taking a brief look at kmatts last game here (as scum) because I remembered him getting ppl off of him with a huge wall. Turns out that was a huge ass wall case post on gb. Think stylewise that is too different on his read post here, so not a good basis for comparison. Also the game was nearly a year ago not just 6 month.

On December 21 2016 07:22 LightningStrike wrote:

Why not follow me and Koshi then? Remember tortoise how I manged to lynch DYH within a half hour before EoD trying to get people to vote him.

On December 21 2016 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
Can someone link the kmatt mafia game?

On December 21 2016 07:57 Holyflare wrote:
This is the game of convenient afking

On December 21 2016 08:04 Koshi wrote:
Well I am ok on Slam.

On December 21 2016 08:15 Holyflare wrote:
well I'm not going to bed for a while so I'll decide

On December 21 2016 08:17 Holyflare wrote:
I was reading slam's filter and there was a post which made me think they weren't together either so I was trying to figure the whole game out

which is why I'm hesitant about slam

On December 21 2016 08:19 Holyflare wrote:


this post i guess

On December 21 2016 09:28 Kmatt wrote:
Aaaaaaaa now I'm getting cold feet. I liked this better as scum, I never had to think about this. The uncertainty is killing me. I'm going off for a bit, I'll try to be back before the flip in case something comes up.

On December 21 2016 10:29 Alakaslam wrote:
I think you guys are Derping.

On December 21 2016 10:49 disformation wrote:
ExO_ (5): Kmatt, Holyflare, Koshi, Rels, sicklucker, disformation, Koshi
Alakaslam (2): Koshi, Koshi, LightningStrike
disformation (1): Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, Alakaslam
Holyflare (1): ExO_
Kmatt (0): sicklucker
sicklucker (0): Koshi
Rels (0): Alakaslam

Bit of stuff planned tomorrow. Will try to find some time and look at reasons/timings behind the votes.

On December 21 2016 11:16 Alakaslam wrote:

Doesn't my entrance recently look hugely like a massive case Of too much information ?

I am expecting to be scum read a good bit. Giving my say to town is worth that.

On December 21 2016 23:50 Holyflare wrote:
Alssooo don't think sl and kmatt are a team based on the way kmatt was explaining all sl's towny intentions at the start of the game

On December 21 2016 23:26 Koshi wrote:

I am not ruling out LS/HF. But it's pretty low on my probability list.

On December 20 2016 00:14 sicklucker wrote:
alright gonna bus my newb partner. lets see how this works out

On December 20 2016 03:26 Holyflare wrote:





Oh baby.

On December 20 2016 03:30 Kmatt wrote:
Nothing that anyone has said about disinformation seems wrong. He's definitely contributing less to the discussion. However, for us to go from being mostly in agreement on Exo to an entirely different case out of nowhere seems worng.

On December 22 2016 02:21 Alakaslam wrote:

Because if he were scum, he wouldn't gladly inform me I think. He'd yell at me for being go-

Wait

Town would do that

Kmatt is a bit questionable. I got townfeels though.

On December 22 2016 03:32 Holyflare wrote:
If kmatt is mafia I'm safe calling sl town. He also seems not grumpy but he's also self aware of that now so probably means nothing.

I need to look into whether rels has ever mentioned kmatt at all.

On December 20 2016 18:45 Rels wrote:
Kmatt might be townier that I thought. I didn't like his early posts but that's because I didn't understand the logic. The rest of his filter is pretty natural, especially on exo, and I don't remember Kmatt being a good scum in the last game he played. I will have to reread it at some point to verify that thought.

On December 21 2016 02:40 Rels wrote:
Kmatt post is pretty good.

On December 22 2016 07:23 Rels wrote:

LIE

On December 21 2016 05:24 Rels wrote:

Well it was much better than I remembered. Not very active but a lot of nice looking posts, in particular the case on GB is impressive. He also did that one thing newb scum always does where he had the strict minimum of interactions with his partners.

On December 22 2016 07:33 Rels wrote:
WHAT I MEANT is mabye he's bussing now and setting m$e up for later. OR evn if kmaat is town and scum is like SL or Koshi he's aiming for a lynch on me based on false info

On December 22 2016 08:59 Koshi wrote:

ah yeah. you are he.
still.
Horrible.

On December 22 2016 09:04 Koshi wrote:
I wonder if that little correction is him realizing that mistake and covering it up changing TMI with false info

On December 22 2016 10:39 sicklucker wrote:
See how i dont tell the thread who I want to lynch untill after the nk guys? freakin amateurs

On December 22 2016 18:29 Rels wrote:
disfo. I wanna talk about how you read my entire filter to see if I talked about Kmatt but missed the two psots where (1) I ask you about it and (2) I read the filter and said my mind about it

On December 21 2016 07:34 Rels wrote:

You think I'm more careful as town than as scum ?

On December 22 2016 18:55 Rels wrote:

YOU CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DO
1) I had this thought while I was drinking, that everybody else would kill HF or you, but if you're scum you wouldn't kill HF 'cause he's in your pocket
2) nope
3) probably

On December 22 2016 19:45 Rels wrote:

Funny dude. I'm writing a big post on you. Light my lantern on one thing please: why did you find Kmatt townie during the early game, he's in one of your town list, you liked my post about him being townie, then when HF mentionned him before deadline you reread his filter but suddenly he's almost as scummy as exo, who is super scummy in your mind ?

On December 22 2016 19:49 Rels wrote:

This is not an answer to the question

On December 22 2016 20:50 Holyflare wrote:
But I also think disfo might be town :D

He put in the work to compare exo's games etc, I dunno he had a totally shit start though.

On December 22 2016 21:02 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh I see no point putting in any work when you scum read someone and they just decide to afk for the cycle. That's not fun.

I was thinking about the sl thing tbh. Kmatt posted in his wall of text that sl is scummy and should be lynched if exo flips town but hasn't said a peep about sl or anything. Find it a bit odd.

But I guess he hasn't been here at all either sooooo.

On December 22 2016 21:25 Koshi wrote:
##unvote

I can't keep this up.

##vote Lighteningstrike

On December 22 2016 13:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got back home from pokemon and I see no one got killed :D Idk if scum would hold their shot there it would be very dumb for them to do so since that would gain a ML which doesn't favor them at all. I now voting Kmatt due to stuff I said earlier.
##Vote: Kmatt

On December 22 2016 03:59 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I was just way to pissed off that ExO still got lynched despite me and Koshi tried to start the wagon on Slam :\ I fine with a Kmatt lynch since Slam does look a bit better post lynch. Kmatt's early game talk is so weird around sicklucker which me and HF pointed out. Hopefully this game will get easier tonight.

On December 21 2016 07:23 LightningStrike wrote:

Slam, Kmatt, sicklucker if doesn't prove he is town by day 3, then idk honestly I been asking people what the case was on dis since everyone talked about him being scummy and all but no one mention a case.

On December 21 2016 10:45 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I had gone out with my parents for some shopping and figured ExO was town on meta yet no one listened to me

On December 21 2016 08:26 Holyflare wrote:
I think we should lynch kmatt, that re-entry to the thread and saying nothing annoys me

On December 22 2016 21:38 Koshi wrote:
what do you mean?

On December 22 2016 21:42 Rels wrote:

I went through the last one IE star wars where you were cop and die N1. BTW It was painful to reread me being shennanied for 0 reason.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/512849-star-wars-rogue-1-hype-mafia?user=disformation&view=all
It's true that you have a lot of interactions with what's happening with the thread. But not always. Here are a list of posts that I think weren't copies of someone else opinion OR where you go against what someone is saying:
+ Show Spoiler +

On December 22 2016 21:46 Koshi wrote:

What if Kmatt is not mafia and it is Rels + LS?

On December 22 2016 21:55 Rels wrote:

That's not obvious to me. LS have had a very hard tim eposting as scum until that millionaire game. I'm gonna see if he was able to replicate his naive posting there

On December 22 2016 22:53 Holyflare wrote:
Maybe exo flipping green/blue bugs me to. Who writes blue as well?

On December 19 2016 10:41 Kmatt wrote:
It begins.

Also hello to Shapelog and Darthfoley (where did he know me from?)!

Looks like we won't know about what setup we get unless a blue does something. GLHF

On December 22 2016 23:24 Holyflare wrote:
?

On December 23 2016 00:05 Kmatt wrote:
Wow I didn't expect to that. But I just don't know of a way to salvage this one. That was the biggest thing that made me nervous about Exo: if he flips green, not only do we get closer to losing, but I have no way to explain myself out of it. I kind of resigned to having thrown the game right there. Of course that was under the assumption that there would be a NK followed by my lynch. That would set the game 3-3 and GG.

On December 23 2016 00:29 Kmatt wrote:


Oh wow there actually are only two scum. I was under the impression it was three this whole time.

On December 23 2016 00:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up I very tired and sick still -.-

I honestly doubt that people would still wanted to lynch Kmatt at the time since they were so convinced about ExO and I was shopping towards EoD with my mom for christmas stuff. I also told you your meta on ExO was shit but you were pants on head I suggest you just leave the meta work for me next time and you say it was a convient post to make as scum when I already said that your meta on him was shit? -.-