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On November 23 2016 19:13 Rels wrote: So it's not "bastard" in the mafia vocabulary sense. A bastard game is a game where it's possible that stuff that host says might not be true. Ah, okay. Never was exactly sure what the definition of a bastard game is. | ||
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you were warned. /in | ||
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On December 13 2016 12:09 cakepie wrote: /cohost [edit] /uncohost I need to clear my head for a bit. I'll /cohost again when I come back, if the game hasn't got going yet. get back in here, I need you to make me a planar dragooooooooon! | ||
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On December 14 2016 06:22 Calix wrote: From my experience, a good chunk of mafia players are raving masochists who get off on being yelled at online so this isn't a surprise at all. In fact, I'm pretty sure that I signed up to get fucked over too :D I don't mind wherever I play or co-host, however, so don't change it. I'm totally down to troll everyone with you and Rels ![]() Plx, dont yell at me, I'll claim cop | ||
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edit: and we are at 10 players, you might have skipped h0pe | ||
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edit: or just rng my checks | ||
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perfect role for me. | ||
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On December 17 2016 01:37 Shapelog wrote: Idk, you told me this game would ruin my rep. as a Host ![]() I'll make you into a Waffle Iron instead. At least I can bash ppl's heads in with that. =D edit: death by waffle iron | ||
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![]() /confirm | ||
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I can vig ppl, but need to send the hosts a case as to why the play of the person I want to vig doesnt make sense as either alignment. I win with the side that had the least amount of players that make no sense by the end of the game. If scum/town are tied I need to survive. On December 27 2016 09:16 ExO_ wrote: Hi, claiming VT please don't kill me day 1 as VT again. Three times a charm. ##vote: ExO_ | ||
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On December 27 2016 20:23 Time Traveler wrote: How is this possible? Weren't we supposed to know when Balance Bills are happening? Plus they can only happen at the end of phases. Anything is possible with Old Spice. ![]() | ||
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Think I like grack. Not lynching Chez today. | ||
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Order must be maintained. | ||
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I like Koshi liking GB. I dislike Koshi liking ExO_ but tbh Im just policy voting ExO_ :D | ||
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nevermind then =D | ||
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On December 28 2016 04:02 Time Traveler wrote: What's your definition for "policy voting"? At I am voting him because he claimed VT. ExO_ claims VT a lot and says he will only do so as town. So I am going to lynch him every time he claims VT. Cause he is bound to do it one time as scum to break meta. so its basically a policy lynch. | ||
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On December 28 2016 05:44 Grackaroni wrote: Could we pile some votes on LightningStrike please? I'd like to assert dominance. You are welcome. why are we scumreading LS? | ||
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Seems like he is trying to be a doc. So far its pretty NAI. generally: if he gives you the feels you dont lynch. | ||
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Havent read a Tictock post yet. Is that stuff good? | ||
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On December 28 2016 06:06 disformation wrote: Oh I am not actually playing. thats just in your head. Havent read a Tictock post yet. Is that stuff good? On December 27 2016 22:53 disformation wrote: I dont like TT. Order must be maintained. Oops I did it again. Would lynch TT for this post: | ||
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are you jaysus or zombie jaysus nowß | ||
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On December 28 2016 08:20 Chezinu wrote: Today, I am thankful for 48 hour days ![]() me too. can we make it 24h longer? xD need time to actually play. | ||
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Did jack on purpose so far cause I wanted to focus on the qualifier game. Was hoping to get at least some nice reactions or something. Really surprised I dont have more votes on me. Bad news: I now have a horrible cold and feel like shit, so I have no idea if I'll be able to actually do stuff today like I planned/hoped. If you guys want me out for that its fine. | ||
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![]() Catching up: ExO_ feels way different than in the qualifier, where he was town, but in that game he got tilted like immediately. Feels way more aggressive here, but I think it feels more like he is trying to get shit going, therefore town. Slam dont want to lynch atm, but would consider doing so if he hasnt posted one of his real good posts by like D2. | ||
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I agree on the koshi thing. So I kinda agree with you on liking that grack and TT post. And I dont agree with ExO_ voting Koshi, but I didnt find his reasoning to be horrible. Or rather: I kinda understand where he is coming from. As in: doesnt look like the qualifier game at all and reminds me more of the dota 2 game. | ||
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Like I think I pretty much like darth, but I am not sure on TT and grack. | ||
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slam hasnt had a good post yet. superbia wasnt very hot, but made me laugh. chez being cryptic. i like darthfoley, gb and hoshi will read TT, ExO_, grack filter later no idea about LS | ||
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Like I understand where GB is coming from, ExO_ posts look a bit like "flinging shit and see if something sticks", but since a lot of those posts are very early in the game I think it is way more likely that ExO_ is town, trying to get some thread started. yeah Koshi is lacking some fire, but it is not the level where is just in the thread to be in the thread. Like imo Koshi is likely to be scum when you go "Oh I thought he was super town for some posts I liked at some point, but I cant remember what he actually did this game". | ||
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##unvote want to read gracks, TT, TT2 filters though | ||
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Did look at your filter just now and dont think you are scum. | ||
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Like a lot of his filter is fluff/mechanics bleh. He only has very few real posts imo, but I dont mind those. some were actually good. | ||
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On December 28 2016 14:32 Tictock wrote: Ok first thing, I reread the OP. Any changes to the game will be formally stated. So for now we are most definitely in a 10v3 scenario. Second off, I don't believe Super actually died. I think the hosts simply exiled him to an alternate dimension. This also seems like it would be the work of a certain planar dragon... Discuss. Oh and Thirdly Chez is Correct we should be sowing more Seeds this game. Like this post is ultra weird to me. | ||
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swear i was going in circles that game. | ||
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On December 29 2016 03:19 LightningStrike wrote: Dis and ExO why not lynch Grack? Well it is either grack or one of the three ??? | ||
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did a peak at TT2. Just overall not much to go on tbh. Slightly better than Slam or Chez. I am going to put my vote on Slam for now. Hope he comes back with a good post or something. | ||
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On December 29 2016 05:14 GlowingBear wrote: And what happens if he comes back? You'll change your vote? Who do you think is scum? Just played with Slam in a game that finished yesterday, where he was able to post very towny posts. So far there was 0 of that. So if he comes back and posts rubbish ill want to lynch him, if he does a good post Ill vote someone else. easy. not sure tbh. I am not feeling too hot with grack. do not want to lynch into: darthfoley, koshi, you tt1 is okay. then we have like slam and chez and tt2. who all are super null. i know chez can be like this as town. slam i know can post a lot better (see above). new guy is new guy and hasnt posted enough to make me think new scum or new town. grack is a scum lean, as posted earlier. | ||
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On December 29 2016 05:23 GlowingBear wrote: Here is what I don't understand, disfo: You have grack as a scum lean and slam as null, but I don't see you pushing grack and then you vote slam? I mean, you're voting someone because he is absent of townie posts over someone who has scummy posts (in your POV)? Why? cause I feel like it, duh. | ||
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On December 28 2016 04:39 Superbia wrote: Let's spice this up. I have a proposition mods. ![]() Flip your almighty coin: Heads—Kill a person of my choice. Tails—Kill me. to the hosts. :p also made me laugh | ||
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we have like 5 ??? players. And with him I 100% know he can play very town. So I want to pressure him into being more town. not too hard to understand right? | ||
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On December 29 2016 03:00 disformation wrote: dunno gracks filter is a whole lot of nothing expressed in a lot of words. no reads / real hunting into defense against koshi. | ||
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On December 29 2016 04:02 Time Traveler wrote: I'm sorry guys. It's just that I'm realising that playing a game here without knowing anyone is pretty hard, as I keep mixing everyone and I don't know who said anything so I'll use the typical ISO strat (or filter, as you say). I'll come in a while. hope he comes back to post soonish | ||
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On December 29 2016 05:36 disformation wrote: LS was scum in the game I just played. dont think he is scum here. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517122-liquidmania-qualifier-1?user=LightningStrike if you want to take a quick look at that filter | ||
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On December 29 2016 05:33 Grackaroni wrote: Nonsense I've done more than most. More than you. I just spend more time posting and there's a much smaller content to post ratio. you basically only started posting real stuff after hoshi called you out and you had an like 3 1/2 page filter or something before that? | ||
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yup. well I am calling it right here, right now: town is going to lose this game. very hard. ![]() | ||
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On December 29 2016 05:42 GlowingBear wrote: Ok, I'll take a look later, but what makes you think he isn't scum here? Is it just meta? I liked his case on grack: On December 29 2016 01:13 LightningStrike wrote: I starting to think it's more likely Grack unless what you said about Koshi in Dota 2 is correct. This is the case on Grack by Koshi: This was my addon to his case on grack: I think it's better to lynch Grack since Slam and Chez are harder to read people until you let them just do their own thing especially Slam. ##Unvote ##Vote: Grackaroni which, as an addition didnt look like anything ls did last game | ||
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On December 29 2016 05:42 Grackaroni wrote: Well Hoshi's been calling me out since his first post which was a whole while back. His complete avoidance of me while writing obnoxious posts makes me want to put more effort in to get rid of him. Okay, I meant his case and him saying your defenses are bad. | ||
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On December 29 2016 05:43 Grackaroni wrote: The GB wagon analysis is terrible because this game is all AFKs yup. TBF another reason why I am voting Slam over you is the faint hope to figure out all the ???. Or at least to get him to post something good. | ||
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On December 29 2016 05:55 Grackaroni wrote: 6 pages bitches. I plan to hit 10 before lynch time. And posts like this make me want to switch to you again. | ||
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On December 29 2016 06:01 Superbia wrote: Can anyone tell me why they think darth is town? I kinda liked a bunch of his posts: On December 27 2016 13:12 darthfoley wrote: Yup the votes on Koshi are silly. Also don't understand why ExO wants a biography about everyone's history of mafia playing. Seems very irrelevant and feels more scummy than towny. I legit don't understand why he's asking people about it. Yayyy people claiming VT in a game of only VTs! Great plays. I prefer Grack so far to be most town On December 27 2016 13:43 darthfoley wrote: Actually nvm, LS isnt that bad. Alakaslam has been the least impressive so far On December 27 2016 15:28 darthfoley wrote: Ticktock's entrance is definitely different than usual. However, motivated TT also makes me happy. Anyone feel like ExO is trying a little too hard to scum hunt? I know the D1 lynch thing is becoming a meme, but uber aggression is not what I associated with his town play (from what i've seen). I do find this post a bit odd, however. sentence one implies i'm towny, sentence two implies no one is towny? On December 28 2016 06:07 darthfoley wrote: Also haven't been a huge fan of Dis, but can you explain or quote to your reasoning on TT? I think he's one of the townier people so far. All imply he is thinking about the game from dif. angles | ||
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On December 29 2016 06:02 Superbia wrote: I'm like 88.9% sure this dude is mafia strictly for his read progression on me compared to thread progression Hmm... he has me, you and some more in his list in: On December 29 2016 02:12 darthfoley wrote: People we shouldn't lynch today: Koshi GB TT ExO Chez? I'm Grack? The problem is that my list of D1 of off limits people is quite small. I was town reading Grack earlier, but I do need to reread his filter. Also don't necessarily trust Koshi at this point, do not sure. Either way I think there are better lynches today. We have two people who are so sick they can't play! While that may be true, it's also such a mafia play. Especially getting sick on lynch day. Especially when they both say, "it's fine if you lynch me." I know it's WIFOMy but I kinda don't mind policy lynching people who tell me to lynch them. These would be Superbia and disformation. Atm I also think Time Traveler is a good lynch. I don't remember him adding anything to the game-- not even trolling. Could easily be mafia Alakaslam is also a good lynch. I hate wasting lynches on trolly people but we don't have a vigi currently and who knows what our glorious hosts may grace us with. If we do get something like a vigi, perhaps we wait on Slam. Btdt... well, he might just get modkilled. Nothing to say about someone who hasn't posted once since confirming. Find this very odd considering you have to confirm to have the game start. rereads you filter, votes you? Can you point out the problem? | ||
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On December 29 2016 06:14 Tictock wrote: I only found this in your filter. Can you expand on why you liked Grack earlier but now find him scummy? If you are referring to: On December 27 2016 22:52 disformation wrote: Time will tell. just the impression I got. Think I like grack. Not lynching Chez today. No idea what/why I liked there. | ||
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then koshi makes a case on him. bad defense + omgus follows. THEN grack starts to play a bit and reads some filters. still posts tons of useless oneliners. | ||
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On December 29 2016 06:26 Tictock wrote: Why not what is different? Also didn't he fool you and a fair few people until D2 or something? Look at the link I posted earlier | ||
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On December 29 2016 06:25 Grackaroni wrote: And yet you liked what I had to say before! Your story is unravelling at the seams, my dear Fabian. Motives grow ever clearer! Most of my posts are usually useless. I post what I feel like. That's how I play. Nope I didnt like anything I told you guys i was absolutely shitposting first half of D1 on purpose -.- also: great, I think I wont be a big fan of you play/poststyle | ||
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okay 1a is pretty strange dont really see problems with 1b and 1c 2 - well i dont remember interacting with df, but sometimes ppl are just out of thread. dont think i was in with him at the same time yet. 3 - is true. he should have specified what exactly he didnt like with your filter. | ||
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On December 29 2016 06:32 Grackaroni wrote: Well if you wrote a series of shit posts with fake reads then your post style seems more inexcusable than my own. Quite hypocritical if you ask me. *facepalm* you guys are starting to get on my nerves. | ||
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On December 29 2016 06:33 disformation wrote: okay 1a is pretty strange dont really see problems with 1b and 1c 2 - well i dont remember interacting with df, but sometimes ppl are just out of thread. dont think i was in with him at the same time yet. 3 - is true. he should have specified what exactly he didnt like with your filter. overall: dont think that really makes him scum? need to ask about 3 and 1a though | ||
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On December 29 2016 06:39 Superbia wrote: Dude 1a is not scummy on its own. It's the non progression and unwillingness to proactively interact that makes it scummy well. I just started playing for real this afternoon and i dont think he has been in since? As stated earlier I would have liked him to expand on what he exactly disliked in your filter. that implicated AI dislike | ||
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On December 29 2016 06:41 Tictock wrote: No. I want your reasoning, not to make my own meta read on LS. LS did have 0 reads/cases on his own last game. Huge swaths of AFKs backed by excuses. | ||
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On December 29 2016 06:35 GlowingBear wrote: Actually I'm not lynching disformation either. He has been here commenting stuff aswell. Can we all agree on one target? Its probably going to be one of the ??? guys... I personally would prefer Slam | ||
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but okay. xD | ||
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and I am somewhat less sure about Grack. | ||
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this post is kinda #selfmeta so feel free to ignore this part. a lot of my actual scumhunting comes from poe, sheeping ppl with good reads and vca. otherwise esp. on D1 i have been having problems with that. since this game has no town leaders and a bunch of coinflips sheeping and poe is a bit of a problem. dunno should prolly figure something out in the near future. where i am currently at: town: GB, TT, DF, Koshi, LS less town: ExO_ scum lean: grack null: btdt, tt2, slam, chez and no most of these are not good "I am pretty sure cause xyz", these are pretty lazy/weak/easy reads, cause otherwise i would scumread everyone and get nothing done. not sure what i should make of super coming in with that meh case on DF. | ||
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On December 29 2016 07:08 Tictock wrote: I'd rather flip the BtDt coin than the Slam coin now tbh. any particular reason? | ||
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can someone else verify that grack posts a lot without having a lot of content? | ||
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just hope we get like tons of vigs shots and doc checks. xD | ||
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On December 29 2016 07:30 LightningStrike wrote: Also btdt is a terrible lynch because we wont get any information regarding anything tbh. thats actually a good point. | ||
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On December 29 2016 07:31 Tictock wrote: So then who DO you want to lynch? You just said you are not feeling Grack anymore. yeah dunno feeling bit waffly on grack. like my one prob with him is that he had a fuckton of posts with little game solving in it esp early game. and i am starting to feel that the whole spamy thing is just how he roles. could be nai. i am not hating some points on koshi. so i dunno. might be town afterall. still preferring slam of all the ??? guys. wouldnt mind btdt, but LS had a good point just now | ||
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On December 29 2016 07:34 Tictock wrote: Oh wow Ninja vote from Traveler. Humm... wow. didnt even see that. also the most cop out vote ever... | ||
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tt2 with the pretty meh filter into ninja vote on btdt. we have slam who can post very town, but chose to post only whatever. | ||
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On December 29 2016 07:40 Tictock wrote: Assuming for a moment that you are Town, you openly admit all of your posts until today are totally throwaway. So isn't it pretty hypocritical to say Grack wasn't pushing the game forward early on? Btw I think it's arguable that Grack did make some game pushing posts early on, they are just lost in some of the more joking posts. I myself think there is a distinction between posting BS on purpose in the hope to maybe get a reaction or two, while being busy with another game, and just legit posting a whole lot with not that much content. Well I liked like 2 of his posts in his first 3 pages of filter. So yeah it is not 100% useless. Also part of why I am waffling a bit of him. Like this can be just how he roles and the spam is like nai. | ||
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On December 29 2016 07:46 disformation wrote: I think there was this thing where i was trying to say that i think that LS case on you is more likely to come from town ls and you though I was agreeing with his case. this was @ grack | ||
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On December 29 2016 07:46 darthfoley wrote: my early hypothesis is that the mafia are good players, or 1-2 good players with 1 wtf player (slam, chez, btdt) cuz i've never seen such a hectic and all over the place d1. well. we dont have like a clear/strong town leader and we have a fuckton of afks. so scum probably doesnt need to do a whole lot here. | ||
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On December 29 2016 07:47 LightningStrike wrote: I like the credit and all but it was Koshi's case with a add on from me. still felt different from what you have done last game. | ||
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On December 29 2016 07:52 ExO_ wrote: K I'm home for the last hour. BTDT is completely afk right, can somebody explain why we're lynching him? I'd rather lynch slam/chez and see if btdt can get replaced btdt came with 1 post that said nothing and voted TT so he doesnt get replaced/modkilled. =D | ||
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On December 29 2016 07:51 darthfoley wrote: I feel like it would be much EASIER to change your scum play after just being caught as mafia; you're hyper aware of your tells, etc. I don't know why this is your defense of him. I know it's WIFOMy and kinda damned if you do/don't, but why would LS ever attempt another baby rage after getting shot down so easily like yesterday. Of course his scum play would look different right after, ESPECIALLY on D1 when it's easy to blend into 13 people. Aight. That point isnt bad. But it goes a bit like this: a) meta is not very easy to change/break. b) not everyone will be motivated to try even harder after just losing a game. i am also not saying LS is slamdunk town for the rest of the game, but its enough that i dont want to lynch him right now. | ||
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On December 29 2016 08:08 darthfoley wrote: Yet you haven't tunneled anyone. You also added onto Koshi's case on Grack with a bad point onto a case that was already bad. Outside of that, I don't really know what you've done to push anyone or to push the game forward. I do not like this post. | ||
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should have specified: I dont mind the first sentence. I really do not like the second. | ||
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On December 29 2016 08:14 disformation wrote: should have specified: I dont mind the first sentence. I really do not like the second. I should go to bed. specifically i dislike the "Outside of that, I don't really know what you've done to push anyone or to push the game forward." because i feel it is not true at all | ||
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On December 29 2016 08:15 darthfoley wrote: Pray tell me where I am mistaken, for I just finished reading through is filter, and it's a whole lot of meh Not going to quote you like 2/3 of his filter. | ||
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On December 29 2016 08:17 darthfoley wrote: Yea okay you've now used three posts to tell us you don't like it. Why is it not true? Who/what has he pushed that have been original points? On December 27 2016 12:11 LightningStrike wrote: I going to put a vote on Koshi for right now because his opening was pure shit and not like any town opening I remember him doing. ##Vote: Koshi On December 27 2016 12:15 LightningStrike wrote: I also really liking ExO already too he trying to push a town agenda and get this game rolling off the bat. On December 27 2016 14:05 LightningStrike wrote: Tbh Grack's defense of Koshi is a little bit strange can't remember if he did the same thing regarding me in my very first game together. Anyways I think we should leave Slam alone and see what he does because one of the ways Geript had a good read on to Slam is if Slam does his own thing which would mean he would be town so I rather see what he does later. On December 28 2016 06:27 LightningStrike wrote: Pretty terrible policy vote tbh. I think he's more likely town than scum at this point and we shouldn't lynch him. On December 28 2016 10:35 LightningStrike wrote: Nothing really was going on and post game of the other game just started. @Darth thoughts on Koshi? On December 28 2016 11:04 LightningStrike wrote: I too think Grack is potential mafia too due to how when I was hard pushing you Koshi earlier he kept trying to steer it away to Slam who we both know is harder to read based on pure pushing. | ||
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On December 29 2016 07:30 LightningStrike wrote: Also btdt is a terrible lynch because we wont get any information regarding anything tbh. | ||
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On December 29 2016 08:24 Grackaroni wrote: Really? The original Koshi push was a follow up of ExO's push. There's a bunch of duplicate town reads on ExO And then 2 posts on my Koshi post that DF (and I) already addressed. Now here's an experiment for you. Go through my filter just starting around page 5 or 6 and make a comparison. I dont think LS filter will ever look like one of yours regardless of alignment. ![]() If only based on the fact that he isnt posting as much. But I think I feel actually better not lynching you. | ||
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Not sure if it is Koshi or LS or someone else. -.- Also as shitty as it is: i kinda want to get rid of one ???. | ||
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e.g. i liked his point on GB in here: On December 28 2016 23:38 Koshi wrote: So I didn't see there was a voting thread. I even went looking for it yesterday. But I voted today. Nothing much changed. TT entered the thread and did absolutely nothing but buddy me up and waffle a bit. The most interesting thing was his role suggestion, read it three times, I don't understand it, I doubt he does. lol. Grack dismissing my case against him like a mafia would. Taking my points super literal and then weazle himself out of them using silly argumentation. Still mafia. Really liked the reaction from GB on disformation his post. Super townie. @GB: Do not get tunneled on ExO based on his opening and a reasoning you haven't even explained to the thread fully. He is not yet lock town, but for now he is not a correct lynch, his posting pushed the game forward by a lot, people who try to push the game forwardlook bad by default because they have to create something from nothing, most of the time you do that by posting reply bait comments, I really doubt mafia!ExO opened like he did here. You better go look for the prominent posters that are blending in doing completely nothing as town, or the afkers that are hiding their alignment. Kill those first. Grack Slam Chez TiTr Disfo TT Superbia darth LS GB ExO Slam and Chez are high on the lynchlist because both refuse to work with town. Easy lynches. Easy vig shots. Get rid of them. Grack is mafia. TiTr could already have pushed mafia agenda, has complained about things he shouldn't complain about, hasn't pushed the game further, has only 1 strong read which he adopted from thread sentiment. @TiTr, try to do things other than pretending to be one of those complaining muppets from the muppet show. You do not participate at the game unless forced. but yeah it is not fiery koshi, like he was last game. no clue if he wants to mix it up or is scum. | ||
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but. since we have like 5 trillion plynch targets I dont see us consolidate on one. still prefer slam for reasons i have stated a few times already. | ||
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On December 29 2016 08:46 darthfoley wrote: Requesting the Hosts give a big old punishment bill to any non voters second this | ||
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On December 29 2016 08:47 ExO_ wrote: Disinfo why are you waiting to the last second to vote anything? cause i dont feel too hot about all this options. but i guess ill consolidate on koshi and hope for the best | ||
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does that mean slam has godlike powers and will be immune to lynches? | ||
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i do not have a great counter wagon to present tbh i want to remove one of the ??? but apparently nobody else wants, or can decide on which of the ??? | ||
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spoiler: its probably not going to look good for grack why do I always waffle of my good reads/lynches? -.- | ||
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Still no clue what you are trying to say. | ||
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On December 29 2016 09:16 beentheredonethat wrote: disformation would you mind to replace out or get modkilled so we don't have to deal with useless shit like your last 40 minutes? Unfortunately Shape will not replace me out of the game for that reason. | ||
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So it will depend on my mood if I actually do the rereading and VCA stuff etc tomorrow. | ||
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On December 29 2016 09:35 disformation wrote: Thats how I play this game. well. EoD was super bad from me. I can agree to that. will go to bed now. | ||
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coming back to claim PR, didnt do that earlier cause I was pissed. | ||
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On December 29 2016 09:32 disformation wrote: Unfortunately Shape will not replace me out of the game for that reason. just realized. doesnt he basically call me 100% horrible town here and not even considers me to be scum? thats some sick tmi. ![]() | ||
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but i got nuthin. role says i cant get item from feast | ||
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On December 29 2016 11:15 Tictock wrote: I'm looking at Gracks filter and he is super all over the place. It's really weird how he calls Koshi an easy lynch and then goes "yea I'll consolidate" after casing Koshi and being one of the main driving factors at the start of the wagon. This seems overly gloaty if Grack is scum though. I dunno I should reread Grack in more detail. I think I would still easily lynch Dis/BtDt at this point before Grack. Honestly I kinda like having Grack in the game for how active he has been. thats a very bad reason and you know it. | ||
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On December 29 2016 20:29 beentheredonethat wrote: Also, Alakaslam disappeared, even got warned. The whole "lynch the inactive" story line that some people seem to rely on died with the Koshi flip, why is that? Note how there was no counter wagon. This thread is currently being driven by mafia. ExO is driving this thread, Tictock, even darthfoley is. So there's most likely one mafia in them. Chez doing the drive-by posting but Chezinu is pretty much unreadable to me tbh. disformation then again claims to have a bad scum game (correct me if I'm wrong) and what he's doing right now is either a bad town game or a bad scum game so I'm perfectly fine in lynching him. Grackaroni's EoD was a joke. btdt confirmed not caring for my alignment. i kinda hope he is just scum trying to tilt/ml me. saving grace is him admitting that grack also had a horrible eod. | ||
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Vote Count Koshi (7) : Grackaroni (2) : Koshi, LightningStrike, LightningStrike (1) : darthfoley (1) : Superbia Superbia (1) : Alakaslam (0) : beentheredonethat (0) : Chezinu (0) : disformation (0) : ExO_ (0) : Tictock (0) : Not voting (1) : Alakaslam General stuff first. We had a ML. So scum is probably on the mid - later levels of the Hoshi wagon. Note that since we only had really small wagons, this range starts at like the third voter. Given 3 scummers I'd say 1-2 scum are on the wagon. Leaning towards two, since a) Koshi is a good target to get rid off early. b) only real wagon. Only doesnt work if scummers are super afk. possible. scum doesnt need to do much with this town. There is also an error in the vote count: darthfoley was the third vote on Hoshi. He didnt do a ##unvote so him switching from LS to Hoshi wasnt counted. Slam: No vote. Pretty NAI imo. Doesnt help him a lot combined with his filter. Chezinu: Really weird. Comes in with: On December 29 2016 08:35 Chezinu wrote: I always say it is easier to lynch a stranger.. I already gave a nickname to Gracky though.. (Grack-Grack).. The Kosh-Kosh Hoshi is quite scary as mafia but useful as town.. I was thinking about ExO wondering if he was defending a teammate. I looked at votes it appears he is just vote hoping everywhere... I like my time traveling theme names.. (time traveler, beentheredonethat, and tick tock.. etc) Then ninja votes Koshi 5mins later. On December 29 2016 08:40 Chezinu wrote: ##Vote Koshi On December 29 2016 08:43 Chezinu wrote: Don't you know I invented the vote hopping mechanism! Into a bit of waffly stuff: On December 29 2016 08:48 Chezinu wrote: Where are the mafia counter wagons?!?!?! On December 29 2016 08:50 Chezinu wrote: KOSHI SAVE THYSELF!!! On December 29 2016 08:54 Chezinu wrote: EXO defending Grack?!>! panics! On December 29 2016 08:54 Chezinu wrote: I R SCARES!! Main problem is that I have no idea why he was voting Hoshi. For some reason him being waffly and lost looks somewaht genuine to me. Pointing out that tehre is no counter wagon is actually a good point. Lack of counter wagon should have warned us. Wish he did something about it though? So yeah again not that helpful. | ||
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chez plays for the themed in the themed game. Have him seen RP his role and be pretty anti town as town before. Would love to explain the things I pointed out. | ||
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On December 29 2016 23:11 beentheredonethat wrote: That's not a bad reason and you should know it Oo It is a horrible reason. | ||
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Push/Case on Koshi during the day. (triggered by koshi scumreading grack). Then starts on LS around ~1h prior to DL: On December 29 2016 07:36 Grackaroni wrote: I'm souring on LS. On December 29 2016 07:38 Grackaroni wrote: I don't like that first he was calling me scum for being Koshi's scum partner and now he's saying that I'm scum because my Koshi fight seems like it's between town and scum. Those are opposite reasons but I always seem to end up the lynch over Koshi. On December 29 2016 07:43 Grackaroni wrote: What bothers me more is that while I think that's an acceptable post to see from LS, I can't see how Koshi would be able to call that post excellent. On December 29 2016 07:47 Grackaroni wrote: This again is wtf level. He made three reads at the start of the game. ExO seems townie. Koshi is mafia. Grack is mafia for deflecting off of Koshi. Every post he has made since then has just been reiterating the exact same reads while changing around the reasoning behind them. I don't think he can come up with his own reads. At this point I think we just kill LS. On December 29 2016 08:00 Grackaroni wrote: Can we lynch LS? I think he's more likely to be scum than Koshi. Koshi was just bothering me more. ##Vote: LS Note the bolded in above post. On December 29 2016 08:29 Grackaroni wrote: I honestly think LS is the better lynch. But obviously I'm willing to switch to Koshi. On December 29 2016 08:32 Grackaroni wrote: That's a fair point. But I've definitely had games where I've gotten strong town feelings from LS before and this just isn't one of those for me. On December 29 2016 08:50 Grackaroni wrote: Killing Koshi was my primary goal for today but I don't feel all that great about the way it has happened lol. On December 29 2016 08:57 Grackaroni wrote: I'm feeling nervous about how easily this lynch is happening when so many people were hard townreading Koshi when I started posting today. On December 29 2016 08:58 Grackaroni wrote: Anyway I'll consolidate. TBH it is not as slam dunk as I did remember it. But there are two things that stick out: "Can we lynch LS? I think he's more likely to be scum than Koshi. Koshi was just bothering me more." "Killing Koshi was my primary goal for today but I don't feel all that great about the way it has happened lol." Primary goal for today doesnt sound town at all to me, but more like it was his mafia agenda for the day. And getting the guy lynched that was scumreading you, is a damn fine goal for scum. And again if LS is more scummy, why was Koshi the primary goal? Just weird to state it like that as town. The progression itself isnt that horrible. Picks up a bunch of points on LS, makes a small case wants him over koshi. Gets confused when suddenly everyone wants koshi. Though that confusing can him being knowing koshi will flip green and not knowing what the best position is here for him, cause that will have caught scum by surprise too. So not as slam dunk as I thought, but it is still pretty bad. | ||
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Also think grack is a bit of a joker, so I can see him post that as either alignment and treat is as NAI. | ||
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On December 29 2016 23:12 beentheredonethat wrote: Okay. Get out of the thread. Return later when you calmed down. Because if you don't, you're helping scum. Stop one-lining. Instead, take a step back. Also, I apologize for upsetting you. It was not my intention to so and I was (and partially am) pissed about the way you approached the game because if you're town, it's helping scum and if you're scum, you're frustrating af to play against. Is fine. I def. didnt play very good. Lemme do my vca stuff, I'm actually good, or at least decent, at that. Will reread you later or something. | ||
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On December 30 2016 01:03 Tictock wrote: This is not all that different than what my take-away from rereading Gracks EoD was. I feel like a Scum!Grack would be all too happy to go back to Koshi given the investment he made in pushing him earlier in the day. Having cold feet about Koshi when he did seems more like a paranoid townie to me than mafia making their own position look shit. @ BtDt I think it is shit that you got super uppity and aggressive about us pushing you for clearly making no attempt to play the game. Then after the flip you've been in everyone's face placing blame. Have you even fully read the game at this point? Like there is just this huge disconnect between your opening post and everything after that, and it all just SCREAMS playing for survival to me. actually decent point on grack. still worried about the two lines I pointed out though. | ||
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On December 29 2016 06:39 Time Traveler wrote: I filtered LS and I liked it at the beggining. He seemed to be consistent with his reads and such, but I do not like how he, after scumreading Koshi, decides to vote Grack after he Koshi makes a post about why people should lynch Grack. Then he says that it is because Grack is more likely to be Mafia than Koshi, and this is because he defended Koshi. Huuuh. Sounds strange that the person who defends his scum read gets scum read as well. On December 29 2016 07:40 Time Traveler wrote: Well, then I can say that I voted BtDt because #yolo. On December 29 2016 08:00 Time Traveler wrote: If that's right, I wouldn't mind unvoting him. On December 29 2016 08:26 Time Traveler wrote: Yeah, I'm unvoting BtDt. I kinda random voted him because it was mandatory and I didn't have anyone clear in mind. And I still do not who to vote. Hum. On December 29 2016 08:44 Time Traveler wrote: Also, I voted Superbia because I don't expect him to be voted by anyone else. So you can consider that a null vote. On December 29 2016 08:47 Time Traveler wrote: Maybe you want to not use something in order to not cause harm and you don't know how to use it correctly, than incorrectly use it. I hope that made sense. And no one is voting him, so I guess he won't be killed. @Time Traveller: why didnt you vote LS when that wagon came up? You implied being not too happy with his filter earlier. Yet I see no mention of LS in your filter when he was up for vote. Don't know what to say about this. Feel like I am not really in a good position to complain about him avoiding any stances at EoD. Really needs to put out some decent reads, soon. | ||
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First thing: he is voting his #1 scumread together with his #2 scumread. Even sheeping his #2 scumreads read. But he states: On December 29 2016 07:30 LightningStrike wrote: I home for just for a few minutes will answer some questions then I will have to answer on mobile: Becuase something in the tone between them plus how they interacted with each other don't seem like TvT but more like TvS. No we lynching Grack Time Traveler and dis look better than him in my opinion. This post from btdt is pretty bad and idk why he voting Tictock atm. It is TvS. Him thinking Grack is the scum, should kinda imply Koshi is town, or at least be way less likely to be town. So I can kinda see him do that vote. Thing that annoys me is that he goes afk like 45mins b4 the deadline and therefore we have no in time comment on the koshi wagon. He comes back way later with an excuse... that sounds pretty deja vu like to my last game where he was scum. He also vanishes kinda at a time, where ppl were discussing a LS lynch, but i didnt look like it would gain much traction? Last post is: On December 29 2016 08:13 LightningStrike wrote: Easy town credit especially that early. At that time he had 1 vote on him. btdt comes in 8mins later. so yeah I dont like him vanishing without warning 45mins b4 deadline and then coming back with IRL excuses. He did the exact same as scum last game. | ||
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On December 30 2016 02:37 darthfoley wrote: Well you were hard defending him against my wagon near EoD, so what is your overall conclusion read of him right now? LS is a pretty hard read at the moment. The koshi <> grack thing is not impossible for town to make with the TvS logic. But under that logic this: On December 30 2016 02:33 darthfoley wrote: [...] So in that post you say you're okay with Koshi being the lynch after you sheep him the whole day? You're okay with him being the lynch over someone you thought was pretty scummy? Also you said that you would have a bunch of info regardless of Koshi's flip. Let's hear it looks really bad. like if you think it is TvS and you are pretty sure it is the one you want lynched (GracK) and even vote together with the other suspect you shouldnt be so chill over the other one getting lynched? that being said i think think ls was actually there when the koshi thing went full force. in hindsight to my earlier post he also was phone posting (or claiming) to. so it would make some sense for him to being gone do rl stuff... but I really wish he could just say so. too easy to be lurking as scum. so if you look at it from both sides it is not impossible for him to be town. might be he didnt explain his stuff properly. but I think stuff is starting to slide into the scum side of things overall. so i am going with a scum lean. | ||
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I think I'll ignore the confirm/forget whatever thing. That might be true. It might not be true. It might be true and hes still scum. Whatever. Lets see what he actually posted. First "real" post: On December 29 2016 08:21 beentheredonethat wrote: Oh c'mon. Yes, I confirmed 2 days ago. Then, I had christmas dinner with gf's family, spent a nice time with her, she went home to my place with me and we continued having a nice time. Nail me on that if you feel like it and don't believe that I genuinely forgot about this game, okay. But lynching into me is the easiest thing to do for scum at this point. Check my last town game and check my activity level there. I can and will contribute for town in the exact same way if you give me the chance to do so. There's no way I will catch up in the like what 30 minutes or so we have until deadline. Tictock, the whole reason behind you voting me is that my vote was randomly cast on you.I checked if there was a main wagon, there wasn't, so I voted randomly. More important even: as there seemingly aren't any clear wagons and town feels confident in lynching into afk/lurky players, I fear that mafia is currently in the driving seat of this game. Which leads my gut to Koshi who went under the radar pretty much ALWAYS when town was on the wrong track. I correctly read him as scum once already so I guess it's worth something. Koshi has 1 filter, compared to his last town game of D1 that's horrendous. Also note Time Traveler's vote on me and keep a close look on ANYONE that voted me early as I am right now a very low hanging fruit for mafia and lazy town alike. Well town wasnt that confident in lynching into afk. Other two points not horrible. Might be flailing to get some names out there though. Waffly waffle post on the wafflemaster: On December 29 2016 08:24 beentheredonethat wrote: I'm right now randomly diving filters. Disformation's filter looks genuinely town but he's being wishy washy. On the other hand, that's disformation pretty much for me so that's not necessarily alignment indicative. Thing about disfo is that from what I can see, he only comments on stuff. "I like that", "I don't like that" and so on and he's not taking any actions on his own, being lazy. Seems to be willing to go after Grackaroni but rather discusses about me? Hmm Here I am like: My D1 was pretty bad. If he was scum looking for an easy out I think it would have been easy to put out something stronger against me. Esp. since some ppl werent happy with me (but not sure if he knew that). Then he goes to look at traveler: On December 29 2016 08:28 beentheredonethat wrote: You voted me without explanation. "Random" as you say. That means you didn't have a real clue who to vote on. Then, you unvote as soon as I drop one post and say "uhhh I still dunno". That's not townie On December 29 2016 08:29 beentheredonethat wrote: Time Traveler having two pages of filter, voting me (low hanging af) then unvoting again feels scummy as fuck #gutFeelings On December 29 2016 08:30 beentheredonethat wrote: oh he's new (to the site?) tho from what his filter says On December 29 2016 08:30 beentheredonethat wrote: But you said you do not know who to lynch. What are the better options then if it's not me? On December 29 2016 08:38 beentheredonethat wrote: That's actually a good idea and I like that. I wondered why you pushed me especially since it felt like you're doing it only because I voted you. I would lynch Traveler over disfo but I'm with ExO in terms of "he's new". Also I haven't read the game so I probably should just sheep someone and stfu :/ but not that's boring. Wanting traveler over me makes sense, though i am not 100% sure I like him liking to lynch someone he is very waffly about. Then decides to go on Koshi (also votes here): On December 29 2016 08:38 beentheredonethat wrote: 1-page-Koshi feels bad and I think he's a very good lynch. On December 29 2016 08:45 beentheredonethat wrote: Yes. I'm confident he'll flip scum. On December 29 2016 08:48 beentheredonethat wrote: No. 1. I don't want to lynch you as I have voted Koshi over you 2. I think you're new and that is why you're not really pushing anyone 3. I am really interested in your scum reads as one one hand, you said you don't know who to lynch, on the other hand you said something like "there are way better lynches than ExO_" Then he gets confused by my shitty EoD play and int ends in: On December 29 2016 08:54 beentheredonethat wrote: Don't lynch LS over Koshi, really. That's nuts. Also whatever disfo's doing there it's plain bullshit ##vote Koshi Id like to know why he doesnt want LS lynched. On December 29 2016 08:58 beentheredonethat wrote: So Grackaroni is lying about his motivations. So I actually like his posts on time and the grack one at the end. imo he should have gotten more worried from the grack thing at the end, but it was like 2mins to deadline, so no room to do anything anyway. Not sure where that confidence on Koshi came from, I think that comes from the "meta" observation in his first post. He also was on koshi fairly early. Dunno for some reason I am getting a town vibe here. I'd like him to explain why he was really against a LS lynch at the time. Don't think this is particularly scummy. Looks more like wrong town. | ||
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On December 30 2016 03:41 GlowingBear wrote: I won't consider killing disformation anymore due to sole effort he is putting in the game. I haven't read EOD yet, I'd love to understand why people switched to Koshi I am going to inform you that I can do this as scum, too. Though there is a difference of Quality between my scum VCA and town VCA imo | ||
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comes in with a case on DF On December 29 2016 06:12 Superbia wrote: Specifically: 1a. Reads me mafia based on OP+activity (afaicr) 1b. Unwilling to push anything on me when we're both around. 1c. This is strengthened by his immediate response when I get smitten. 2 Lumps me together with disfo as becomin"sick on lynch day". I became OG sick near game start. This showcases that he is not familiar with my (admittedly) limited gameplay. Also I don't think his read progression on disfo has progressed but I may be wrong. Did he interact with disfo in between his list post and voting me? 3. My actual activity is not taken into account at all in the vote or read even though I have done some AI things On December 29 2016 06:17 Superbia wrote: Read my excellent post while I do a bit more reading On December 29 2016 06:24 Superbia wrote: Btdt has literally posted nothing yet lolol On December 29 2016 06:27 Superbia wrote: Darths entire lynchlist is pretty much policy based On December 29 2016 06:32 Superbia wrote: I'm going to sleep in like 5m. I think dfis mafia. I think at least one of the policy lynches is mafia: slam/btdt/tt2/chez (?). Not sure about a 3rd. I think that if df is mafia grack could very well be a partner, but I dont have an individual read on grack a bit more afterwards: On December 29 2016 06:35 Superbia wrote: I had a TT scumread? If so it was either a mistake or it vaporized. I think Tt is townlean for tone mostly On December 29 2016 06:43 Superbia wrote: Ok my patience is wearing thin and I really want to sleep. Sheep my case on darth or at least don't lynch a policy lynch. Pls make it 2 wagons as well On December 29 2016 06:45 Superbia wrote: Disfo is prob also not a good lynch indeed. Idk if i put that out there yet Comes in with an original case. Tries for ppl to get it/pushes it. Throws out a few other reads/obvervations. gtfos. Still dont 100% get his case, but it had some decent observations in it, so I dont think it is a fabrication. Also don't think scum needs to even pull out a case of thin air here, since the thread is super chaotic anyways. Plus the way he pushes his case is also pretty town. So yeah, overall i think he is pretty town for that. Its not impossible to do this as scum, but I think it way more likely he is just town atm. | ||
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On December 30 2016 04:40 Tictock wrote: Actually rereading some of these posts I'm not sure how BtDt managed to put some of this stuff together in the short time he was in the game. Like I was around at the same time trying to look at stuff and was much less sure of any of my scum reads at the time. BtDt apparently had no problem skimming a few filters and coming to some hard conclusions in a very short span of time. I think I would shoot BtDt over anyone if I could tonight. Maybe Slam as he still isn't quite playing the game ATM. I guess there isn't a whole lot different between Slam and Chez, but Chez at least seems to have gotten invested in his role so we might be able to read him based on his actions. Well. Think he skimmed like koshi, tt2 and me? Koshi and TT2 didnt have very long filters. On December 30 2016 04:44 Tictock wrote: Given what I know about Chez it's a toss up between Recruiter/Survivor/Traitor. Maybe one of his seeds will grow and blossom into the truth. yup. I am also in Chez's game. =D | ||
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GB did sheep the main wagon at the very end? On December 29 2016 08:58 GlowingBear wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Koshi | ||
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Explains his reads and starts on the Slammer: On December 29 2016 01:02 ExO_ wrote: I feel like there are a lot of people to seriously consider, but we have 8 hours left and the votes are all over the place. I think I'd prefer chez/slam if we're just gonna lynch a trolly person. I could see grack being scum, but I could also see Koshi very easily being scum here. His post looks good, but look at how he's playing this game. He's not posting with fire or over the top bravado. He's saying good shit, but he's not playing with that huge umpf that he plays with as town. He's antagonizing nobody. This still doesn't look like town Koshi to me, it reminds me so much of dota 2 mafia. Still I don't wanna get tunneled all in on this theory 100% yet. I think we should come together as town and get rid of either slam or chezinu for now. ##Unvote ##Vote: Alakaslam + on koshi: On December 29 2016 03:19 ExO_ wrote: What a wonderful non-post. I'd be okay with Koshi lynch after this. so for me: Slam/Chez/Koshi are who I think we should lynch - on grack: On December 29 2016 03:23 ExO_ wrote: Because I'm not convinced enough that he's scum yet. The biggest thing I found scummy about him was his buddying with TT, and his post count that doesn't really scum hunt or drive town forward in any way. But I don't think I'm okay lynching him today when he's at least talking a decent amount. The fact that Koshi wants to lynch him also makes me think me want to hold off on a grack lynch. 1 day pass on tt2: On December 29 2016 04:06 ExO_ wrote: Time trav, you get a pass from me today, I know what its like to be new and exposed to day 1 and not really able to take it all in. That said it ONLY applies for day 1. You're going to have to step it up after today on btdt: on LS/koshi: On December 29 2016 08:22 ExO_ wrote: I don't think I'm okay with an L.S. lynch. I have my doubts about him. I think I like Koshi. Again everything I said about Koshi still stands. Town Koshi is in your face and loud and proud, and here he's kinda just "meh'. His post count is really low too. I'm not 100% sure, but I think I'd prefer Koshi to btdt at this point. I feel like its riskier to go with Koshi over chez/slam/btdt/insert other inac here but he just feels like scummy to me. Would like a bit more explanation on LS though. On December 29 2016 08:34 ExO_ wrote: Grack should 100% not be the lynch right now. He has 8 pages of filter. Even if a good portion of it is garbage, I cannot say anything has sold me he's so scummy that he should be lynched day 1. Koshi has 1 page of filter, is completely out of the thread, and had a weak case on grack. Then peaced out. That's it. I think he's our best bet here On December 29 2016 08:38 ExO_ wrote: Koshi is a well-known player on TL mafia. He can be very antagonistic but he can also be right. My thinking is this: Koshi has 1 page of filter. That's incredibly low activity, esp for Koshi. Koshi makes a bad case on grack and doesn't really try past that. His posts aren't getting in anybody's face (which is my impression of his town meta) but instead he's acting disinterested and not passionate (what I think his scum meta is like based on his scum play in dota 2 mafia). Therefore I think he's our best bet right now. I'm not as sold on LS at the moment I dont like that these boil down to activity. calls out the grack thing: On December 29 2016 08:52 ExO_ wrote: Grack you said your goal was to get Koshi lynched, but you've been parked on LS this entire time. Why was your "goal" to get Koshi lynched and why are you not voting for him now? On December 29 2016 08:59 ExO_ wrote: Grack you are suspicious as fuck right now Left out a bit of pocking left and right, which all felt like he seriously was trying to figure out the game. 2 very small things: why didnt he like a LS lynch. and i didnt super agree with the activity based read on Koshi/Grack. But I am fairly sure he is just town. His read progression on Koshi makes a lot of sense. And while I am not a huge fan of that grack read, he realizes grack looks really weird at EoD. Overall feels a lot like figuring out the game and not like he is agenda driven or playing for survival. | ||
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On December 30 2016 04:58 Grackaroni wrote: Yeah but he made his sheep post after I had made my post on LS. ah i understand now. | ||
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On December 30 2016 05:16 Chezinu wrote: Ok! I have chosen you since you couldn't enjoy the feast. What type of seed do you want? Oh most generous Chez! It appears I am currently far from the Capital on some plains. Which is why I am missing the feast. I would humbly request a seed of planting so the seed shall take root in these plains and spread far and wide! | ||
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On December 30 2016 05:29 Chezinu wrote: Ok, I can give you a seed that you my sow at someone. What would you like this seed to do? I think we are in such a state of disarray that neither a seed that sprouts in a healing flower nor a seed that sprouts into a poisonous one are a good choice. I'd love a seed that sprouts a flower blossoming in the true colours of the person at whose feet I sow it. If that is possible. =D | ||
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starts on superbia: On December 29 2016 05:21 darthfoley wrote: Somehow everyone has forgotten that Superbia's filter is pretty ass. It's actually very ass. He hones in on one sentence of mine and that Koshi posted a list post. That's literally all the analysis he's done. The rest is mechanics and banter fluff. This was before he supposedly got sick. (Mafia can get sick too!) I don't know why anyone is town reading him. ##Vote: Superbia On December 29 2016 07:26 darthfoley wrote: 1a. Yea,basically. Plus you've literally done nothing but push shit on me. The only thing that makes me a little less sure is that you're trying to get people to lynch me, when i've been almost universally townread so far. That's definitely not the easy way out, so perhaps i'm wrong on you. 1b. Unwilling to push anything on you when we're both around? Wtf is this point? I interacted with you when you pushed me, when you said something about Koshi that I found a scummy point. I've interacted with you more than most people in this thread. Just ctrl + F superbia in my filter. 1c. Not my fault you got yourself killed for surface level ez town points. 2. I don't know what this has to do with me being mafia? I'm on the fence on disformation and i'm rereading his filter currently. 3. What AI things have you done? Getting yourself briefly out of a bastard game by doing some bet with the hosts? Cool, man. Your "actual activity" is definitely taken into account in all of these posts. What am I missing from your filter? willing to consolidate on btdt: On December 29 2016 07:31 darthfoley wrote: Now that i've dispatched of Superbia's bad case against me, I agree with Ticktock that BTDT's post is utter garbage; I'd be willing to consolidate on someone who opted out of D1 after confirming two days ago grack/koshi/ls: On December 29 2016 07:33 darthfoley wrote: I actually like Grack more than I like Koshi right now On December 29 2016 07:40 darthfoley wrote: I still find LS's Koshi v Grack analysis very very troubling and i'm nervous about it this post man??? Grack did a better job of pointing out the inconsistencies it assumes, but c'mon like what On December 29 2016 07:51 darthfoley wrote: I feel like it would be much EASIER to change your scum play after just being caught as mafia; you're hyper aware of your tells, etc. I don't know why this is your defense of him. I know it's WIFOMy and kinda damned if you do/don't, but why would LS ever attempt another baby rage after getting shot down so easily like yesterday. Of course his scum play would look different right after, ESPECIALLY on D1 when it's easy to blend into 13 people. On December 29 2016 07:59 darthfoley wrote: I actually quite like your case on Koshi. I'm just conflicted on whether he should be a d1 lynch unvotes cause nobody is on super: On December 29 2016 08:10 darthfoley wrote: Okay since everyone has just ignored Superbia's terrible case on me and is not willing to vote on him, I'm basically between btdt/LS/other inactive people ##unvote hates my defense of LS: On December 29 2016 08:15 darthfoley wrote: Pray tell me where I am mistaken, for I just finished reading through is filter, and it's a whole lot of meh On December 29 2016 08:17 darthfoley wrote: Yea okay you've now used three posts to tell us you don't like it. Why is it not true? Who/what has he pushed that have been original points? On December 29 2016 08:21 darthfoley wrote: I just reread all of LS filter for disformation's sake and my opinion has not changed. You like my point about LS and Koshi's bad case on Grack, but dislike my second line? What else has LS else this game dude? On December 29 2016 08:23 darthfoley wrote: How the fuck is him saying ExO is probably town an original point? ExO has been townread by everyone except GB for ages. Even at the time, that was a safe read. Most of what you just quoted is confined to two players, and a widely read town player. Color me not impressed switches to koshi: On December 29 2016 08:36 darthfoley wrote: Fuck it I will vote Koshi if LS is not going to happen. The dude has one page filter and his only case is jabroni baloney on Grack On December 29 2016 08:39 darthfoley wrote: ##Vote: Koshi One page filter, won't get NK'd if he is town because of the suspicion he draws. Also no blues so don't have to worry about that. Only case is on Grack. Not happy with D1 but this is the way the cookie crumbles. little addon onto ls: On December 29 2016 08:44 darthfoley wrote: It was mainly because I feel like his filter has been very carefully limited to talking about you (who most people view as town), and Koshi v. Grack. I also think Grack is way more townie at this point, so not sure why LS views the two completely opposite to me. He's had a few town things to point to: the point of voting btdt, for example On December 29 2016 08:54 darthfoley wrote: I'm staying on Koshi unless it becomes an LS wagon. dunno. this one is a bit hard. like he has his own reads and the progression mostly makes sense. well there is that part where he wants to lynch into the afks and then it goes to LS/Koshi. Generally he seems to be cool with like whatever wagon, besides grack? Problem: since EoD was so chaotic and so all over the place I can hardly blame the guy. Still for whatever reason my gut feeling is pretty bleh on this one. Also found the line of "One page filter, won't get NK'd if he is town because of the suspicion he draws. Also no blues so don't have to worry about that." to be rather strange. Esp. the NK thing? Just seems like a weird train of thought to me. Not sure if that is even really AI. Also getting really tired. Will probably reread this one, if I dont dieded. | ||
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my points on chez and tt2 are different. tt2 didnt have any stances at all. chez did meekly warn us but didnt do much about that. these two things have 0 in common. what the fuck do you mean with convenient read? gracks intial position doesnt matter much because his first vote was way early in the middle of the day when noone was really considering him a lynch. pushing koshi partly of of mainly omgus doesnt give him town points at all. How do you know scum were surprised by the Koshi lynch? By koshi flipping town. | ||
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On December 30 2016 07:07 darthfoley wrote: 1. That's fair. I think TimeTraveler has a very decent chance of just being overwhelmed scum ATM. 2. I mean convenient read as something that's very safe. You are saying that you think mafia is on the middle or end of the wagon... well that includes like 5/7 people so statistically that's probably true and therefore incredibly safe to "deduce" 3. Forgive me for not really understanding what you mean with your last sentence? 2. Ah IC. Okay let me try to explain again. It is more like for scum to be on the mid-end part of a wagon. Because scum usually doesnt want to give town info by scumhunting start wagons etc. So they hop onto a wagon on the back of a good case or once the coast is clear. This is not always true, good scummers can do otherwise etc. but it is usually likely. This game we basically had only 1 wagon and all the other guys had like 2 ppl on them. so I am willing to say that scum could have hopped on a tad earlier, since a koshi lynch is very good for scum. 3. you asked me how I know that the koshi lynched surprised scum. I said: because koshi flipped town. =p | ||
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First things first: On December 29 2016 08:59 Tictock wrote: If Koshi flips Town you are getting scrutinized to all hell tomorrow. On December 29 2016 10:00 Tictock wrote: After the end of each Day phase, there will be a 1 hour resolution period. You are not allowed to talk in the thread during this time. I have Heard the Words and Heeded them for the Blessings Given. Also I totally got the role I wanted so these Hosts rock! Anyways not surprised Koshi flipped Town. I think we should be lynching BtDt and Dis. I'm still not sold on LS being scum. Grack looks super shit at EoD too. I need to reread him. On December 29 2016 10:01 Tictock wrote: Yea we shoulda lynched you. I'm sorry Koshi. On December 29 2016 10:06 Tictock wrote: Yea BtDt/Dis tomorrow. Dis why the hell did you vote Koshi after saying you didn't want to lynch him D1? Then these doom and gloom posts and accusations right after a Town flip are scummy as shit. Did the grack reread happen? Onto votings: Starts with random vote on slot 7 in his opening. pretty NAI imo. Votes me: On December 28 2016 15:07 Tictock wrote: Yea Kill with Fire. ##Vote: Disformfation On December 28 2016 15:12 Tictock wrote: Pretty much half of Dis' filter is useless fluff and any opinion he does give is just super off the cuff with no thought behind it. Definitely not Town!Dis who brings his own brand of waffle-y thought to the game. Also... What's not to like? Against the grack lynch: On December 29 2016 06:33 Tictock wrote: Yea let's not lynch Grack please. Too much piss and vinegar to be mafia imo. Open to lynch into: LS/disfo/Slam: On December 29 2016 06:58 Tictock wrote: I can still lynch Dis despite him being around. Not sure why you think that makes him Town. I'm open to lynching LS as well. Other than that I'm not sure, I'm feeling a bit too lazy to recheck people at this point. I guess we could flip the Slam coin. BTDT comes in: On December 29 2016 07:08 Tictock wrote: I'd rather flip the BtDt coin than the Slam coin now tbh. On December 29 2016 07:17 Tictock wrote: Fuck it let's YoLo lynch BtDt. ##Vote: Beentheredonethat On December 29 2016 07:24 Tictock wrote: Totally knew the game was starting and is just trying to skate by D1. Fantastic lynch. looks at ls again: On December 29 2016 08:22 Tictock wrote: Went to glance over LS' filter. Noticed this: So I was actually wrong LS was scumreading both Grack and Koshi at the same time and didn't move to Grack until well after Koshi had started to push him. Based on my interactions with LS earlier it also seems like he still thinks Koshi could easily be scum. So really the only reads I saw from LS were Exo as Town and both Koshi and Grack as scum but he wants to lynch Grack first. says his punch on btdt was bait: On December 29 2016 08:31 Tictock wrote: Ok I think I am back to wanting to lynch Dis and maybe Traveler. I partially started to push BtDt just to see who jumped aboard and both of them did so without a second thought. I'm not sure about LS, he could be scum, but I think he gets credit for pointing out a BtDt lynch gives next to no info. I'm waffling a bit ATM deciding who I most want to lynch, kinda wanting to just go back to Dis. but his vote stays on LS: On December 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote: Meh not sure where the vote count is at. If we are actually between LS and Koshi then I'm going with LS. Seems like he legit was trying to figure out who the best lynch is. Though he has like no mention of koshi during the time that wagon started, he can just have been busy reading filters n stuff. I actually kinda liked the btdt feint. Don't think scum would do that. Not very likely to be scum overall. | ||
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On December 29 2016 05:20 GlowingBear wrote: People, we are running out of time and we need to decide the lynch or Mafia will probably have this today. Let's make a list of 3 people you want to lynch today? Mine, in order: 1) Disformation 2) Exo 3) Time Traveler into (the two wagons were grack and slam): On December 29 2016 05:39 GlowingBear wrote: I also have a feeling that both wagons are town. Because the lynch is going on and there is no bigger force trying to get to one or another, or to kill another target of both were Mafia. I know this is WIFOM but the feeling is very strong. And Disformation, I think it's pretty bad your preferred lynch choices are the both leading wagons and that you'd vote either one. And you're voting the null guy instead of your scumlean. You're the lynch for the day. ##Vote:disformation Also doesnt want a grack lynch: On December 29 2016 06:31 GlowingBear wrote: GRACK IS NOT THE LYNCH TODAY HE WON'T BE THE LYNCH TODAY. I REFUSE TO LET THAT HAPPEN He has one of the biggest filter atm and he has been here commenting stuff. My suggestion is that we lynch Time Traveler/disformation Doesnt want me lynched anymore: On December 29 2016 06:35 GlowingBear wrote: Actually I'm not lynching disformation either. He has been here commenting stuff aswell. Can we all agree on one target? still wants exo or one of the nullers (preference for chez) as backup: On December 29 2016 07:41 GlowingBear wrote: Can we lynch Exo? He isn't even here On December 29 2016 07:43 GlowingBear wrote: Can we just lynch between chez or slan if we are not lynching Mafia today? On December 29 2016 07:44 GlowingBear wrote: Ok who between chez and slam? I say chez On December 29 2016 07:49 GlowingBear wrote: Well I'm voting Chez. I'm not lynching an AFK nor a toenie On December 29 2016 07:53 GlowingBear wrote: I don't know. I just prefer chez. I've already said a ton of names I prefer to lynch but nobody is disxussing them, it's frustrating goes for a drink and says to sheep grack: On December 29 2016 08:01 GlowingBear wrote: I'm sheeping grack. I'm going to drink now and won't be able to pay much attention to the game Interestingly he votes koshi before grack, but super close to deadline. Don't think GB looks particularly scummy. Multiple instances of reevaluation reads when presented with new evidence. Makes him more likely to be town. Also did try to organize some shit. | ||
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Also possible: there seem to be quite a few TRing Grack really hard. Sell me that TR, but better make it good. generally we have a very disjunct opinion on some ppl. grack is either very TR or very SR for example. partially that also applies to like LS. we def. need to consolidate more or the next EoD will be the same. I also kinda dislike the tone some ppl use here, but will try to use what the hosts gave me to have some fun on my own this cycle. =p | ||
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VCA addendum for timeline. Koshi (7) : ExO_, Chezinu, darthfoley, beentheredonethat, GlowingBear, Grackaroni, disformation Okay. So the idea is that scum is less likely to start/open a new wagon, but rather hops onto a wagon for easy/sheepy reasons. Since there was no counter wagon and only wagons with 2-3 ppl, I'd say that means the first 3 ppl are slightly less likely to be scum. Overall there are 1-2 scum on that wagon. So tldr: I am pretty sure there is 1+ scummer in btdt, gb, grack, me out of these four grack looks the worst (to me), as I already explained (yes he basically invented the wagon, but he also had to be basically reminded to vote koshi, as he was supposed to be according to what he said/did D1). gb and me just hopped on at the very end for consolidation. doesnt actually give a lot of info, esp on GB who was afk leading up to EoD. chez also had a really suspect reason to vote koshi, but at least he did so fairly early. for btdt there is the question why he was so against lynching LS and for darth why he went from lynching into the nulls into lynching ls/koshi. | ||
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actually superbia got dat super hipster scumread on darth. you remember? the one nobody got? shame he wont be around to try and explain again. flipping my town lean on df to a SR. to see if scum shoots me n2 for that. =D still think ls vs grack should be resolved first. | ||
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he doesnt give town a lot of info. maybe he was right on df. maybe all the super tr ppl are actually scum. he had a decent chance of picking up the ball as the game progresses. could be any (combination) of those. still found the df thing noteworthy. something to keep in mind. also no idea what the weather does. =D will try to sleep now | ||
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not sure if id want tje hosts messing with us on that or not. | ||
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On January 03 2017 14:21 Tictock wrote: Ok so I reread OP and some of the Pregame and I think Shape is more into messing with us rather than outright lie so I think we should generally assume what the hosts tell us is true (even when they later take back some of what was said, or change the rules around again). Key to this game is gunna be rolling with the punches and probably being fairly open about's going on. I can reveal one mystery, I prevented Chez from giving Dis a seed because I didn't change my invite from Chez. Chez must be a pretty restless sleeper because he tore the bag apart during the night as well. not sure what you mean with the last sentence. think i have a vague idea on your role. so thanks for claiming. at least i know chez didnt lie. | ||
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On January 03 2017 09:49 LightningStrike wrote: I will double check his filter if he did scumread df before his death. On January 03 2017 09:54 LightningStrike wrote: I can confirm what you said about Superbia scumreading df before his death disformation he kpet questioning why people were townreading him. I kinda like that he went and double checked and didnt blindly trust me. implies he doesnt know my alignment. not too hard to fake, but I want to give him half a townie brownie. On January 03 2017 11:03 Grackaroni wrote: I'm being pressured to analyze things by forces unknown. These reads are really shallow, inconsistent, and scummy. For one thing, I tried to start multiple wagons during the end of the day. A wagon on LS didn't take because other people wanted Koshi. I think there might be reasons for that but maybe I'm wrong. Looking at only the final vote count to see who tried to push forward a lynch is a total distortion of what happened during the end of the day. Also, the only people that "jumped onto a wagon for easy sheepy reasons" are the people that Disfo has written off because they did it for "consolidation." I'm also at a general loss for how he ignores that I tried to lynch his #2 scum read at the end of the day. What more could I have possibly done to make myself townie? Didnt like this post at all. Calls all my reads garbage (discredit attempt noted) and then 99% of his complaints are essentially complaining about me misrepresenting him. Then he doesnt vote me. I did look at the progression of votes in my other posts. For the evaluation of the timeline when ppl ended up voting for koshi you obv only look at the votes that stayed on koshi. Also don't get the complain about writing of GB and me... Not doing VCA on me, I already know my alignment + Show Spoiler + town GB wasnt there at _all_. No idea what info I should get there. Yeah, I wish I had gained some better/more concrete results from all my posts, but thats what I got. At least Grack probably isn't scum with LS. Or the other way around for that matter. Also: On January 03 2017 09:01 disformation wrote: for btdt there is the question why he was so against lynching LS and for darth why he went from lynching into the nulls into lynching ls/koshi. I want these ppl to actually say something about that. | ||
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Vote Count Koshi (7) : Grackaroni (2) : Koshi, LightningStrike, LightningStrike (1) : darthfoley (1) : Superbia Superbia (1) : Alakaslam (0) : beentheredonethat (0) : Chezinu (0) : disformation (0) : ExO_ (0) : Tictock (0) : Not voting (1) : Alakaslam | ||
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On January 03 2017 18:24 Grackaroni wrote: You keep trying to find these little things to defend LS. Every time he's come online so far he's looked to me like he was about to shit himself. The GB/You thing isn't about my thoughts on people I was questioning your logic. Here's what you wrote in the post: These 3 people are town because they tried to start a wagon. The people we need to be looking at are these four people that voted for sheepy reasons. GB and I voted to consolidate, so no info there. Grack originally started the wagon but then he wanted a different wagon on my #2 scum read. He seems like a sheep. This is the best vote imo. So yeah, I'm calling the post garbage. Thats not what I wrote in that post at all. ##vote grack | ||
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Scum more likely in btdt, gb, grack, me. You look the worst, as I already explained. The brackets try to explain why you dont get cred. for "inventing" the koshi wagon. I'm town. Yes, GB looks more scummy for the timing, but he was legit afk as fuck, making that line of argument pretty NAI. I still want btdt to answer my question. Though maybe I was cutting him too much of a slack. He was strangely confident in koshi being scum, after just coming in and playing for like an hour. | ||
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On January 03 2017 18:44 Grackaroni wrote: My summary is pretty much exactly what you wrote in your vote count analysis. With the exception that you describe me favoring a LS lynch as me needing to be reminded to vote for Koshi. On December 29 2016 08:29 Grackaroni wrote: I honestly think LS is the better lynch. But obviously I'm willing to switch to Koshi. Checks out. On December 29 2016 08:50 Grackaroni wrote: Killing Koshi was my primary goal for today but I don't feel all that great about the way it has happened lol. WTF On December 29 2016 08:57 Grackaroni wrote: I'm feeling nervous about how easily this lynch is happening when so many people were hard townreading Koshi when I started posting today. Double WTF On December 29 2016 08:58 Grackaroni wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Koshi ??? Yeah Post 1 is great. Post 2 is worded really bad. As in a "this is not a town mindset" post. Post 3 classic distancing from the ML. The vote makes no sense after Post 1 and if you thought LS was the better lynch I dont know why you did get "pressured" into voting Koshi? | ||
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You push koshi of omgus. I wasnt a huge fan, but okay that happens to town. Koshi not happening you push LS. Still a bit waffly on LS (which is why I am trying to find his alignment so hard). And that is okay too. The weird things that dont end up are really this EoD posts. Where you are like: "I think LS is the better lynch" "But I really wanted to lynch Koshi today" "But now I have cold feet on Koshi" "well lets vote him regardless" | ||
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Aight. @LS: I'd like you to evaluate the more recent grack posts and please dont repeat my posts back at me. =p @Grack: If you are town you are welcome to clear up the EoD posts and/or do some scum hunting. the ppl town reading either of them are welcome to make a town case. | ||
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On January 03 2017 11:12 ExO_ wrote: I drove home last night. I really hate that the game was paused during the 3 days I was sitting around with family doing nothing. Oh well. I'm going to continue claiming VT. I'll be honest I feel like playing civ and not looking at this game too much (there's so much wtf shit going on), but I'll pipe back up either tonight or tomorrow. The mention of Civ gives me hard flashbacks from Dota 2 where scum!ExO_ kept bringing it up a lot... | ||
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On January 03 2017 19:09 ExO_ wrote: I'd like to reiterate I am Vanilla Town. I'll actually try tomorrow, but for now please just remember that I am Vanilla Town I hope it is not contagious. =P On January 03 2017 19:14 Grackaroni wrote: Ok this is a better explanation of your read. I spent a lot of time earlier in the day trying to lynch Koshi because he was bugging me. I think I was fairly transparent about that in my posts. Obviously I also thought there was a pretty decent chance he would be mafia. When I said lynching him was my primary goal for the day I was referencing that. For the 3rd post, I explained earlier in my analysis posts. I thought/think it was pretty concerning that people were choosing Koshi over LS. I had been trying to lynch LS by the end of the day. The wagon was started by Btdt and Chezinu, neither of which looked particularly townie. The lynch ending up being not even close. There were also quite a few people that liked Koshi earlier in the day that never spoke up to defend him. Plus Chezinu was thinking something similar during the time, and he doesn't even have to wonder about Chezinu's alignment. P.S. it's brown. Fair enough. TBH I didn't get any scum vibes from you in our discussion (or whatever you want to call it) just now. There is also a bit of stuff here I like. unvoting. | ||
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On January 03 2017 19:18 Grackaroni wrote: Plus I've done plenty of scum hunting already. The only changes to my list I would make is that TT has moved way up on my town list through very mysterious circumstances, and Superbia has been violently ejected from the game. I kinda feel that with that list you should be trying harder to get either LS or me lynched? | ||
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On January 03 2017 19:29 Grackaroni wrote: I was hoping to build some pressure on Slam to play the game. Fair enough. | ||
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And ExO_ falling off super hard after getting all those town reads bothers me quite a bit. Going to try and actually work at work for a bit. | ||
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town lean: Grack, Chez Ayyyyyyy lmao: Slam null: tt2 scum leans: df, exo_ scum leaner: ls need to reread: btdt guess that means I also flipped my read on exo from town to scum (lean) | ||
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another post just saying my post sucks snd im scummy. i think gb is town from the way he played d1. i would love for him to come back and post mote, but i think hes town. deal with it. i dont give a flying fuck what i look like after whatever ls flips. im very obviously trying to figure this game out and it is starting to annoy me that ppl are just throwing shade at me at whatever corner. meanwhile darth entire filter this cycle is "oh shiny mechanics" and complaining. like i seriously hope there is scum in the annoying ppl. cause you guys are pretty not fun to play with. | ||
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On January 04 2017 01:02 darthfoley wrote: I'm sorry I disagree with your analysis? If you wanted to run the show and not deal with disagreement, you probably should've been a host and not a player. Nice OMGUS. On both my points of GB and LS. It's so unfair how you're judging me by my D2 play, but GB by his D1 play ![]() Also your characterization of my play this cycle is wrong. I was messing about at the beginning of the cycle because no one else was here, and I didn't feel like reading another four of your wall of texts. Babyrage isn't going to get you a town lean from me gb hasnt posted yet? there is nothing to judge d2? where is the omgus? you were a scum lean before that post. im also scumreading exo... | ||
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there is a difference between "i disagree with x cause y" | ||
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i still try to see if he makes sense from a town perspective. cause guess what: i dont know his damn alignment. and if i see something that might as well be town ill point it out. | ||
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On January 04 2017 01:13 darthfoley wrote: You haven't seen a horribly unfriendly tone until you walk into a bar with HolyFlare, Calix and NeverUnlucky hf isnt unfriendly hes direct. calix and nu are only asshats to each other. | ||
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On January 04 2017 01:12 darthfoley wrote: Really man? A horribly unfriendly tone? The worst thing I said is that one of your reads is "really freaking lazy." If that triggers you, I don't know what to say your whole post had a very condescending "the fuck are these reads, you are either scum or need to l2p" tone too it. and that was the second time. | ||
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On January 04 2017 01:02 darthfoley wrote: I'm sorry I disagree with your analysis? If you wanted to run the show and not deal with disagreement, you probably should've been a host and not a player. Nice OMGUS. On both my points of GB and LS. It's so unfair how you're judging me by my D2 play, but GB by his D1 play ![]() Also your characterization of my play this cycle is wrong. I was messing about at the beginning of the cycle because no one else was here, and I didn't feel like reading another four of your wall of texts. Babyrage isn't going to get you a town lean from me aaaaaaaalso: how is my characterization of your d2 wrong if you essentially admit to not having read anyrhing? | ||
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On January 04 2017 01:30 darthfoley wrote: The most annoying thing in this game is that the setup and twists are quite fun, but only like 5/12 people are actively playing. Hosts, incentivize activity please!! i can agree to that. | ||
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at least slam makes me smile. | ||
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On January 03 2017 11:24 Alakaslam wrote: Aight so I wanna play wit me right? I'm fookin' retired. I do whatever the hell I want. Y'all see here? So here is my game. I am Bismarck. I am both Nonono Bismarck, and I am also Bismarck Senpai. Who is Drakon? Hint: Drakon is in the obs RN if I read aright. Everything you need to know to discern this is in my filter. So you are saying that "drakon" is in obs yelling like "Y YUO YOLO?" Given that we: a) both played a game with koshi where he had a super stronk town read on you and b) koshi can be a tad ragey as town you probably are talking about koshi? | ||
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On my LS read: I don't think town needs to be particular original to be town. Sometimes it is good enough to not get misslynched and sheep the players with the good reads. I thought I saw a glimpse of that here and there with LS, but tbh I dont see him thinking about the game much at all this day, so can lynch. | ||
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more like that noone is willing to work with each other. | ||
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On January 03 2017 11:12 ExO_ wrote: I drove home last night. I really hate that the game was paused during the 3 days I was sitting around with family doing nothing. Oh well. I'm going to continue claiming VT. I'll be honest I feel like playing civ and not looking at this game too much (there's so much wtf shit going on), but I'll pipe back up either tonight or tomorrow. scum!ExO_ dota 2 game: On October 23 2016 10:53 ExO_ wrote: Sometime tonight I'll try to make a list of my reads. I'm really caught up in civ 6 right now though On October 23 2016 22:50 ExO_ wrote: Just got done with a massive civ binge. I'm not really giving this game as much attention as I should. I started on a big list and got as far as 1 person before deciding I can't do it right now. When I wake up I promise I'll at least put some effort in, but for now goodnight and much more. @LS can I get your stamp of Meta approval this time? | ||
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That makes him more of an asset to this game than most of you ppl. | ||
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ExO_ > LS need to look at df and btdt again. | ||
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before anyone "misses" that point | ||
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guess its ExO_ > LS > TT2 | ||
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not interested in getting anything, but I want to see if he does something useful with the messages. prefer stuff to be open in the thread and my role doesnt give me any sneaky stuff either. might go to bed before halftime though, getting super tired already. | ||
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On January 04 2017 07:13 Grackaroni wrote: I've been thinking about the game where Disfo/Mderg/Shapelog were mafia and I tunneled HF for the final day while all of you guys disappeared from thread for the entire cycle. I looked over LS' last scum game and he was giving out way more town reads during the start of that game than he did here. At the same time, this should be pretty disconcerting. I'll read through more games of his later. Wait. Was that dark tournament? I think I can remember that. ppl thought LS kinda modconfirmed himself town by posting right after deadline while being a lynch wagon and I couldnt get him ML because of that, despite him having like 0 reads. I was scum that game. If that is the dark tournament game. *sigh* I guess my d1 read on him was pretty ass. -.- | ||
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On January 04 2017 13:55 Grackaroni wrote: I read through some past LS games and I don't think his play was nearly as scummy in this game as I had thought. interesting. so beside exo_ who do you scum read now? | ||
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still fine with voting exo_ @time: time to bust out some reads. doesnt need to be 100% stuff. but by now id really like to hear who you thinkvis more likely to be town or scum. anything really. | ||
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On January 04 2017 08:04 darthfoley wrote: We'll gladly like to hear your new thoughts yeah what happened to this? | ||
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though I am getting a bit of a deju vu here. but i am somewhat annoyed by that, cause that is exactly what you want if you are scum. so for the love of whatever, if you are town, take like 30mins and look at some ppl and tell us what you think. look at ls, look at slam. if you have some spare time maybe tt2 or df or whoever. | ||
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did his moo at ls take away his ability to speak? i was really hoping he got some input on ls of that. | ||
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so mine should have gone fhrough too. unless hosts/scum/df is messing with me/df. xD | ||
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On January 04 2017 20:47 beentheredonethat wrote: Exo/darthfoley/tictock. There's most likely one scum between them but its hard to express why. Let me try. D1 was driven by scum or by wrong-guessing town. No counter wagon to Koshi. Given that Koshi is a heavy weight player on both alignments, I assume that scum just laid back and was fairly okay with that lynch. Question is if scum pushed the Koshi lynch (which would point towards exo) or if the lynch just happened with scum maybe being the hammering votes (pointing towards tictock/df?) would also explain the superbia shot a bit. cause that too means either a few of the "town circle" guys are scum... or on a really wrong track. I don't mind TT. Not 100%, but I dont think I want to lynch him. ExO_ really needs to post something of substance. DF is kinda falling down the ranks today and I had a weird feeling after reading his filter when I was doing my VCA stuff. still like this train of thought though. Generally we have a ton of afks and are super lost. so scum needs like 1 active person to stir up some confusion/lead town in a wrong direction and the rest can chill and afk. And if scum has 2 active/stirrer/fake leaders we are in a real bad spot. | ||
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ExO_ too had a very town D1, but now he is doing the afk/excuses thing. Which is actually worse than not posting at all imo. DF is pretty suspect, but I cant fully explain. I feel a bunch better about both grack and btdt today, so I think/hope both are town. LS gives me major waffles, mostly based on the fact that my gut wont stop to tell me hes town since D1. TT is like okay. Fallen off quite a bit, too though. At least he is trying to do stuff. TT2. Guess I can lynch solely based on the fact that he is giving us nothing. Chez. Uh, I have a very weird mechanical tr on him. Could easily be false. Could even be scum fake nuking himself for all we know. But ofc makes no sense to tinfoil about that stuff until someone claims the nuke / we see if it is real. Makes 0 sense to lynch him ofc. | ||
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On January 03 2017 18:01 disformation wrote: Also nearly forgot: Vote Count Koshi (7) : Grackaroni (2) : Koshi, LightningStrike, LightningStrike (1) : darthfoley (1) : Superbia Superbia (1) : Alakaslam (0) : beentheredonethat (0) : Chezinu (0) : disformation (0) : ExO_ (0) : Tictock (0) : Not voting (1) : Alakaslam | ||
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On January 04 2017 21:44 beentheredonethat wrote: Oh chez. Yeah. Unreadable, kill/lynch with fire. Same as slam. Erm. You know chez has a nuke headed towards him, right? On January 04 2017 21:45 beentheredonethat wrote: There was someone voting Koshi although he was pushing someone else. Grack? On January 03 2017 19:14 Grackaroni wrote: Ok this is a better explanation of your read. I spent a lot of time earlier in the day trying to lynch Koshi because he was bugging me. I think I was fairly transparent about that in my posts. Obviously I also thought there was a pretty decent chance he would be mafia. When I said lynching him was my primary goal for the day I was referencing that. For the 3rd post, I explained earlier in my analysis posts. I thought/think it was pretty concerning that people were choosing Koshi over LS. I had been trying to lynch LS by the end of the day. The wagon was started by Btdt and Chezinu, neither of which looked particularly townie. The lynch ending up being not even close. There were also quite a few people that liked Koshi earlier in the day that never spoke up to defend him. Plus Chezinu was thinking something similar during the time, and he doesn't even have to wonder about Chezinu's alignment. P.S. it's brown. | ||
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Same as TT2, but he made me smile, so I'd prefer TT2. =D | ||
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On January 04 2017 21:47 beentheredonethat wrote: Was superbia onto something with the darth votes? Like, superbia wasnt killed for activity reasons. So he died because? On January 03 2017 09:47 disformation wrote: cant sleep. actually superbia got dat super hipster scumread on darth. you remember? the one nobody got? shame he wont be around to try and explain again. flipping my town lean on df to a SR. to see if scum shoots me n2 for that. =D still think ls vs grack should be resolved first. On January 03 2017 09:49 disformation wrote: dont worry superbia disformationridge farm remembers! On January 03 2017 10:09 disformation wrote: well superbia could have died for a few reasons. he doesnt give town a lot of info. maybe he was right on df. maybe all the super tr ppl are actually scum. he had a decent chance of picking up the ball as the game progresses. could be any (combination) of those. still found the df thing noteworthy. something to keep in mind. also no idea what the weather does. =D will try to sleep now | ||
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On January 04 2017 21:48 beentheredonethat wrote: Hes unreadable so I dont care. Hes not contributing. Basically the same I was mad about you, only worse as he's completely unreadable and useless. Just to make clear cause I am not 100% sure how to read this: You are saying you don't care about the nuke headed towards Chez? | ||
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Both for which there is 0 evidence. | ||
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I think that if he is/has the role I think he has, that is slightly more likely to be town. Also since nobody claimed the nuke, it is more likely to be either a scum nuke or the hosts trolling us. But lets see what happens EoD. | ||
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my gut is like: do it! | ||
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and I REALLY want us to have like 2 solid wagons this time, so I can do a better VCA in the night. | ||
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On January 04 2017 22:13 disformation wrote: oh let me reread tt. Nah, I think hes town. Would like to see more posts today. | ||
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I don't like how you went into D2 only talking about mechanics, complaining a lot and throwing shade on ppl actually trying to solve the game. TT noticed the same. | ||
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here the might message you should have received: "0 interest in getting something in return. no clue what to do with this otherwise, I prefer all information to be in thread." =D | ||
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I want to agree with ExO_ but he did this as town before and had a good D1. Still think this D2 looks more like his afkish scum games though. Slam and TT2 are coinflips. It makes sense to consolidate on them and hope the coin flips red, but I dont see pushing them giving much information and slam is the current lynch anyway. Yeah TT has fallen of hard, but again I really liked his filter. dont think btdt was the lynch today, or will be. Care to make a case? LS is my problem child so to speak. Might be right/wrong here. You did post a lot, but I didnt particularly like what you posted today or think you are particularly town for it. | ||
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I was stating I think every town has a PR, but am not sure of it. I got one. And I already claimed. GB has one apparently. Superbia had one. I think only koshi didnt have one cause he died D1. | ||
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and superbia's claim was very good. He saw his PR, decided it wasnt very good for town and tried to get scum to shoot him by claiming. Pretty good stuff. | ||
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And yeah there is never a 100%. Unless baby seals are involved. | ||
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Or hes just scum. =D Think I posted it N1, after calming down from being pissed at btdt. Lemme search for it. | ||
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On January 04 2017 23:12 disformation wrote: I think ExO_ has the VT virus. That is like a VT role. At least that would make sense to me. Or hes just scum. =D Think I posted it N1, after calming down from being pissed at btdt. Lemme search for it. On December 29 2016 10:08 disformation wrote: cause he had like 5 billion votes on him already and me being on an actual wagon is better for vca. coming back to claim PR, didnt do that earlier cause I was pissed. =D | ||
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Did btdt ever explain why he didnt want LS lynched so strongly D1? I think I asked him twice. | ||
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and the line: "okay everyone who was eager to vote me and then voted koshi instead of not-voting slam needs to explain why" makes sense after a ML. as in: "I guess one of the guess who switched for really no reason, is prolly scum". The confidence thing is really strange though. And I already pointed that out somehwere. xD | ||
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On January 04 2017 23:38 ExO_ wrote: There's really nothing I feel like talking about except I am VT Come on. Now you are just doing this to annoy me. -.- | ||
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On January 04 2017 23:44 Time Traveler wrote: ![]() Also, can anyone tell me what does "being shadowed" mean? Ah, there is someone watching Chez play and asking him questions why/how he plays like this. Not relevant to this game and the shadow is not allowed to interject his own opinion into Chez. | ||
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the second message I got was btdt basically telling me he is sorry for N1 and is now cool with me. also heavily implying a TR on me. No idea why he didn't post that in thread and it might be a buddying attempt, but it sounded rather genuine to me. And while we are at it: LS sent me a message asking for assistance in lynching his scumreads, as he thinks they wont get lynched without my help. Again: might be a buddying attempt, but I think it sounded genuine and is more likely to come from town. | ||
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On January 04 2017 23:53 darthfoley wrote: One unrelated point: What if the mecha cow created a LS + GB hydra and that's why he's been afk? Isn't a hydra when two players become one or something? Just food for thought. @disformation, that is a very good question Cute idea, but I think GB and LS would have gotten a new account for that. Can't really force players to share an account like that. | ||
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Votes were: koshi 2 grack 2 LS 2 when you made the attempt to switch from LS to Koshi that wasnt counted cause the unvote was missing. | ||
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On January 05 2017 00:09 disformation wrote: You were the hammering vote on Koshi btw. Votes were: koshi 2 grack 2 LS 2 when you made the attempt to switch from LS to Koshi that wasnt counted cause the unvote was missing. like here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=26258665 just sayin' though. scum is slightly more likely to avoid being the hammer to avoid blame, but koshi is a tasky target. so im a bit whatever on that point. unfortunately. | ||
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does feel fairly risky though. =/ | ||
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that game was good. | ||
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LS. On a scale of one to ten, how happy do you feel this game, when 1 is very unhappy and 10 is very happy? =D | ||
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On January 05 2017 00:30 LightningStrike wrote: Mainly because it not my biggest scumread but had to deal with people thinking I'm scum too. 5 ofc is somewhat tricky. on one hand is he somewhat happy, but ppl are calling him scum. on the other hand he is not really happy and has claimed. | ||
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On January 05 2017 00:36 disformation wrote: In star wars there was less shade throwing and you actually read my posts. @df | ||
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How the fuck do you play D1's? xD sry, was half joking. I dunno man. I'd still like a ExO_ lynch just cause he refused to play, but still has time to post the VT one liners. @LS what does your meta on ExO_ say? | ||
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Like last game I played I had a not shitty case on scum!Rels and was just about to waffle off of that read. Hadn't HF picked up his own push on Rels we might have not lynched him. And in hindsight Rels was fairly obv. scum. this game I am really like "Oh i got something good on x!... naaaaaah" "oh it might be y.... naaaaaaah" like on one hand i think that constantly reevaluation reads is one thing that makes me good, esp. endgame currently i feel like i am non stop secondguessing myself and it is starting to annoy me | ||
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On January 05 2017 00:51 LightningStrike wrote: potntenally scum? He constantly gave a excuse of playing Civ 5/ Civ 6 throughout his last scum game but here he doesn't say what he been doing. Cool. So we kinda agree. On January 04 2017 04:02 disformation wrote: ExO_ this game: scum!ExO_ dota 2 game: and much more. @LS can I get your stamp of Meta approval this time? On January 04 2017 04:08 disformation wrote: Also it is not that he mentions civ a lot, its that he gives a lot of excuses and afks a lot. @ the exo read. before anyone "misses" that point | ||
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On January 05 2017 01:03 LightningStrike wrote: If ExO is mafia I going to feel like a jackass for defending him Day 1 the way I was doing it. If you are scum I am unistalling this game. =D | ||
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cue in some crickets. | ||
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Aight. But please leave enough room to actually properly react to whatever you've got. | ||
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Also were did tt2 go? Wasnt he about and wanted to post reads and stuff. | ||
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I really really wish you would have claimed earlier, because now it kinda looks like you are claiming to get out of the lynch. | ||
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On January 05 2017 02:34 darthfoley wrote: i'm not claiming vigi! i'm claiming mafia Uh? you gotta have to explain that one | ||
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2 scum would be really mean. not impossible, but unlikely. 0-1 scum most likely. and yeah this is ultra host wifom. | ||
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On January 05 2017 03:09 LightningStrike wrote: I think we lynching df today to see if he's telling the truth and if he flips town then we lynching into TT and Grack before anything else but if he flips scum then we lynching Grack and TT and hope the game ends there. if all three sre town we just loose. | ||
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i am mad paranoid about tt now. cause stopping me from getting stuff benefits real scum as well. | ||
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On January 05 2017 03:26 LightningStrike wrote: I think I saw grack keep posting about House of Brown throughout the game. yep. i absolutely believe darth. the problem is figuring out ehat it means for gracks, tts and darths alignment | ||
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and 2/3 kinda dropped out of existance today. | ||
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skimmed the op but didnt see info on that... | ||
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i dunno. I guess I missed how much fuckery was going on, because my role doesnt give me much insight, but I can see a lot of stuff going on now. also explains the resolution times and everything. i really really really really want tt and grack to chime in on that though, because right now i am super afraid of them. there might be an extra wincon for you guys involved. but i dont think the hosts made you anti-town the way this game is going. | ||
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tt was okay. df is at least playing and it makes a lot of sense for him to be super confused about all this. tbh makes sense for all 3 of them to play really strange today. | ||
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the nightactions might rise more questions than answers. | ||
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would explain the unclaimed nuke? | ||
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though I am really not sure who that is at the moment -.- | ||
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which is why I think its hosts trolling us or a scum nuke not 100% sure though =/ | ||
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On January 05 2017 04:44 Tictock wrote: A decent bit behind still but I should be around code EoD, although I have a feeling work is going to ask me to stay late. I think I'm between Traveler and BtDt as my top lynches today. Exo looks like shit today but I'm not quite ready to flip that read just yet. 3 days off is rough in a game like this and almost everyone's activity has taken a hit. So I'm not sure that's a great metric right now. WHY DIDNT YOU MENTION THE QT WITH GRACK AND DARTH | ||
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On January 05 2017 04:52 GlowingBear wrote: MY GOD I forgot about the game... I'm working today, won't be able to play now... Shit I'm sorry! *cries in a corner* | ||
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well afk laundry... and trying not to cry | ||
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the problem is that it is very hard to make reads based of that since a lot of that is host wifom. only things we learned so far imo: I think at least 1 of df, grack and tt is town. chez either was shot or carrying kp. we kinda need ppl to confirm though. | ||
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the way df approaches this he is more likely to be town. | ||
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since you apparently didnt get mine, I think you might have been blocked or some bs. that kinda would point to real scum doing that to prevent you from getting/spreading information... and if one+ of the other two are scum they know you have some good info... dunno | ||
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On January 05 2017 05:22 darthfoley wrote: At least I spiced the game up a bit! Thank god ExO is VT and refusing to play! And GB forgot about the game. and tt2 is like "okay I am doing work now" "woah its so hard to distinguish ppl" *vanishing trick* and Slam is like ayy lmao | ||
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assuming there are still 3 scum (op states it starts 10-3), we are 8-3. if we misslynch, the nuke is real and chez dies and 1 town dies in the night, we are at: 5-3 tomorrow. thats mylo. bloody brilliant. nolynch would give us 1 extra lynch in that scenario. | ||
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On January 05 2017 05:25 darthfoley wrote: What are the chances both the people who "forgot" about the game are both town? Somewhat serious question lol GB/btdt I am always assume IRL/out of game excuses to be true, cause it would be pretty dickish to lie about that. though... not 100% sure if "ups forget" counts... I guess it kinda does... | ||
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On January 05 2017 05:28 disformation wrote: were 11 ppl now. assuming there are still 3 scum (op states it starts 10-3), we are 8-3. if we misslynch, the nuke is real and chez dies and 1 town dies in the night, we are at: 5-3 tomorrow. thats mylo. bloody brilliant. nolynch would give us 1 extra lynch in that scenario. problem is: we probably wont get much information in the night. and if the nuke is fake, we have very little to no extra info I guess | ||
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Like scum should be in a super good position? Dunno. | ||
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On January 05 2017 05:50 darthfoley wrote: Why are you town reading Grack again? Can't remember I had a decent conversation/discussion with him first half of D2 and that made me think he is town after all. starting like here:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/516592-hosts-revenge-mafia?page=68#1353 and then going to the middle/2nd half of the next page | ||
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On January 05 2017 05:52 darthfoley wrote: An ExO lynch could provide more context on the Koshi train. A Btdt lynch would provide more context to why/who switched off of him and onto Koshi, if he flips scum. Also that LS defense. If he's town then mega wtf yeah, but the real question is: do we think they are town? | ||
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but I might need to look at him and tt. | ||
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but yeah, ill prolly stop flailing and reread with all the new info we got in mind. warning: im getting tired as fuck. ill try my best to be here at eod, but i might need a nap. | ||
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going back to my exo wagon. will still try to post some things. | ||
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pkay here is the problem: it barely feels like you are in this game/paying attention/figuring stuff out. more like you are just tagging along for the ride. and its hard to tell if that is if xou are new and have no idea what to do, or if you are scum kinda trying not to do anythong and slip by. | ||
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read a bit through tt's filter. he dropped a bunch of hints that weird stuff was going on. I just assumed he meant his "qt invite" actually roleblocking someone... but: On January 03 2017 12:02 Tictock wrote: Yo. I had no time to do shit over the break for this game and am at work for a decent bit longer tonight. I've also got like 5 PMs plus all the new bills to read before I even get into reading the game proper. Apparently the hosts misinformed me regarding my role, or actively misguided me, not sure which just yet. Super is an interesting Kill as he was not terribly active and was only pushing Darth. Must have been a respect/fear kill since Super wasn't doing much to make himself a target. I'll get caught up and do shit when I get home. On January 03 2017 14:21 Tictock wrote: Ok so I reread OP and some of the Pregame and I think Shape is more into messing with us rather than outright lie so I think we should generally assume what the hosts tell us is true (even when they later take back some of what was said, or change the rules around again). Key to this game is gunna be rolling with the punches and probably being fairly open about's going on. I can reveal one mystery, I prevented Chez from giving Dis a seed because I didn't change my invite from Chez. Chez must be a pretty restless sleeper because he tore the bag apart during the night as well. | ||
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On January 03 2017 11:12 ExO_ wrote: I drove home last night. I really hate that the game was paused during the 3 days I was sitting around with family doing nothing. Oh well. I'm going to continue claiming VT. I'll be honest I feel like playing civ and not looking at this game too much (there's so much wtf shit going on), but I'll pipe back up either tonight or tomorrow. I have the strong feeling that ExO_ knows something else? I mean the paperplanes, votes and weather were announced, but i didnt feel they had a lot of impact until now? well tt2 might disagree | ||
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On January 05 2017 07:19 GlowingBear wrote: Summarised please, I'm working Exos entire d2 filter: (5 posts): + Show Spoiler + On January 03 2017 11:12 ExO_ wrote: I drove home last night. I really hate that the game was paused during the 3 days I was sitting around with family doing nothing. Oh well. I'm going to continue claiming VT. I'll be honest I feel like playing civ and not looking at this game too much (there's so much wtf shit going on), but I'll pipe back up either tonight or tomorrow. On January 03 2017 15:46 ExO_ wrote: Somebody please talk to me on a walkie talkie On January 03 2017 19:09 ExO_ wrote: I'd like to reiterate I am Vanilla Town. I'll actually try tomorrow, but for now please just remember that I am Vanilla Town On January 04 2017 19:31 ExO_ wrote: You can believe what you want, but I am Vanilla Town On January 04 2017 23:38 ExO_ wrote: There's really nothing I feel like talking about except I am VT Note that the first post looks a lot like his afkish excuse posts in the Dota 2 game where he was scum. | ||
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On January 05 2017 07:14 disformation wrote: I have the strong feeling that ExO_ knows something else? I mean the paperplanes, votes and weather were announced, but i didnt feel they had a lot of impact until now? well tt2 might disagree what if exo got some got some of curse from the hosts? maybe koshi is haunting him? xD Can be either alignment though, so dont really think mechanics help us a lot here. | ||
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prolly chez? | ||
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FUCK. ASK HIM IF HE DIEDED AND HAS RETURNED TO WALK THE BROWN EARTH AGAIN | ||
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been starting at some exo posts, but not getting anywhere. | ||
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On December 27 2016 11:34 ExO_ wrote: that you aren't answering. and I don't know why. It serves no purpose for us to get hung up on this though, so please tell me why you don't wanna tell me which site, or tell me which site, please. Hm. | ||
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On January 05 2017 07:53 GlowingBear wrote: He's not. But the sudden change of opinion truly makes me pause. Anyone thinks grack is Mafia? What do you think, disfo? I had some problems with gracks early D1 and and with his EoD1, but I had a bit of a discussion the EoD1 thing with him early D2 and now think he has a good chance at being town. | ||
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grack: had some doubts over his early D1 (similar to hoshi) and his EoD1 (as many ppl had), talked to him about it, felt better about it, think hes prolly town. gb: good D1, went mia, but the NAI kind of MIA. exo: good D1, went into giving afk excuses (scum meta) and oneliner "im vt" spam. darth: was meh on his D1, had a really strange D2, but he gave thread a lot of info in a way that makes me think he is town. with that added info his D2 also makes a lot of sense. TT: good D1, went super low activity D2 and had strange stuff starting N1 around mechanics. The N1 stuff makes a lot of sense with darth info. TT2: super disconnected from the game. hard time telling if new!town or new!scum. btdt: dont think his eod1 was as bad as like TT thinks it is. has been getting townier over the course of today. chez: nuke headed his way. slam: ugh. made me smile? darth found a huge crumb and it would kinda make sense if hes blue? horrible read actually now that i write it down. ls: kinda boils down to a gutread tbh. | ||
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I vaguely remember ppl saying we shouldnt lynch slam. care to remind me why? | ||
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On January 05 2017 08:18 GlowingBear wrote: But I'm a town rolecop and I xhexked you and it said you are VT. Why are you lying? On January 05 2017 08:10 LightningStrike wrote: I wish I could prove my blue role but I only got this day phase so my earliest stuff with my role would come day 3 :/ | ||
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On January 05 2017 08:19 beentheredonethat wrote: Is ExO the kind of scummer to take the mod warning to look genuinely afk? Its a bad idea to play around with such things. He can just come in last second and vote. | ||
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On January 05 2017 08:23 Grackaroni wrote: LOL i just noticed: darthfoley (0) : Grackaroni (0) : Holy fuck. I am 100% getting buddyed/pocketed by one of those two Oo and both send me a paper plane message. paranoia 3000% | ||
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On January 05 2017 08:25 GlowingBear wrote: Dude, the check comes at day phase. It should say his PR instead of VT if that was true? i'm super fucking tired and/or a moron. think you are right. | ||
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On January 05 2017 08:34 Tictock wrote: Well fuck it's a borderline blizzard here and took me a full hour to get home. No way am I catching up in time. Who are we lynching and why? a) ExO_ On January 05 2017 07:22 disformation wrote: Exos entire d2 filter: (5 posts): + Show Spoiler + On January 03 2017 11:12 ExO_ wrote: I drove home last night. I really hate that the game was paused during the 3 days I was sitting around with family doing nothing. Oh well. I'm going to continue claiming VT. I'll be honest I feel like playing civ and not looking at this game too much (there's so much wtf shit going on), but I'll pipe back up either tonight or tomorrow. On January 03 2017 15:46 ExO_ wrote: Somebody please talk to me on a walkie talkie On January 03 2017 19:09 ExO_ wrote: I'd like to reiterate I am Vanilla Town. I'll actually try tomorrow, but for now please just remember that I am Vanilla Town On January 04 2017 19:31 ExO_ wrote: You can believe what you want, but I am Vanilla Town On January 04 2017 23:38 ExO_ wrote: There's really nothing I feel like talking about except I am VT Note that the first post looks a lot like his afkish excuse posts in the Dota 2 game where he was scum. b) tt2 On January 05 2017 06:06 Time Traveler wrote: ![]() Hey guys... I'm trying to survive this fucking cold and post between pills... BeenThereDoneThat: Wouldn't mind to lynch him. The cases that have been brought about he directing the lynch to Koshi and try to survive could be either Mafia or Town freaking out. However, he's messing with me so :D Alakaslam: Just filtered him and saw that 65% of his posts have AYYY LMAO and 99% are troll. I wouldn't mind lynching him as PL, but I like him <3 Disformation: This dude continous contributions and cases about everyone shows great contribution. He has asked me things sometimes wanting me to improve activity, which I like and see as town. LightningStrike: I already filtered this guy and said that I did not like his D1 end (scum-read the guy that defended his scum-read). However, I find his push and scum-read on darthfoley genuine as he just revealed the fake mafia team thingy, so I wouldn't lynch this guy over others that will/have been mentioned. ExO_: As I said many times, he was the one that was contributing the most. He recently has been in a "I'M VT" attitude, repeating it ALL THE TIME. Which I don't like. If he continues like this I would lynch him, but for now no. GlowingBear: He continously said ExO was not town and he couldn't understand why we saw him like that. Maybe he was trying to not make him a town-read for everyone?? I like that he actually contributed something, but at the end of D1 he voted Chez after saying that his scum-lean were Disformation and ExO (he was voting Dis but changed to Chez and said that Grack was not being lynched). I would say he's actually a scum-lean for his weird thing at the end of the game, and he even voted Dis because he was voting a null instead of his scum-lean when he just does the same?!?!) Grackaroni: I'm not reading through 11 pages of filter being ill, sorry. Consider him null. (Although would be lynch-preffered because of the fake mafia team stuff) DarthFoley: HM... 13 PAGES... Oh well, I'll just talk about the recent stuff which I have fresh in my mind. That weird post about they being a fake mafia team is fucking strange, and I don't really know what to think about it. As the other guys confirmed it (I think) they all have to be either lying or it is the truth, which then I would say there most probably must be an actual scum between them three because if not the hosts would have just created a town block, making it considerably harder for mafia. I would lynch him to secure/ have them checked, as this stuff makes them have more chances of being mafia than a normal player. Chezinu: Trolly attitude, same as Alakaslam. Only that his is seed-centered. Would lynch. Ticktock: I don't know how to read this one and he either believed he was in a mafia team, making sure that most of his posts (which are D1) were written from mafia perspective or is straight making it up. Which in both cases his posts are mafiish. Erhh... wouldn't mind to lynch him to prove the fake mafia team thingy. | ||
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we lynch LS who claimed blue, but GB says he rolechecked LS and got VT. though: the timings in this game might be mean and both gb and ls town -.- | ||
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On January 05 2017 00:01 disformation wrote: ah I can add something to the point that btdt apparently doesnt think i am an option today. the second message I got was btdt basically telling me he is sorry for N1 and is now cool with me. also heavily implying a TR on me. No idea why he didn't post that in thread and it might be a buddying attempt, but it sounded rather genuine to me. And while we are at it: LS sent me a message asking for assistance in lynching his scumreads, as he thinks they wont get lynched without my help. Again: might be a buddying attempt, but I think it sounded genuine and is more likely to come from town. but not a topic for now | ||
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exo still the lynch imo. | ||
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On January 05 2017 08:46 Time Traveler wrote: ![]() I just want you guys to know that if I'm getting lynched and voting ExO may save me, I'm totally doing that. There's no way I'm fucking getting mislynched this game on D2. Take it as you want. Yeah that is completely fine as either alignment. ![]() | ||
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kinda resonates with me, but dunno some short sentence would be cool | ||
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no mention of the chez nuke? | ||
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![]() just kinda pissed. half at me. half at exo. and i dont think the mechanics have been town favoured so far. | ||
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half because i am suoer tired and should be sleeping for 3 hours by now. half because i am on phone and it takes me ages to load a songle page, so my chance at an item is 0 and that means scum prolly gets all the items. | ||
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will try to sleep an lool at votes / ouja tomorrow. | ||
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On January 05 2017 10:08 Grackaroni wrote: lol I went for the dentures really quickly and they didn't do anything. They fit very nicely though. It's a very nice smile. great success! well at least we have two wagons this time. hope i find something good. | ||
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god. cant sleep. im like 100% sure i fucked one of my reads up pretty hard yesterday. i waffled off grack, df and ls. maybe i gave too much cred to tt and gb d1? one thong that was strange; slams name got mentioned a few times rod, bit no one was willing to vote. i feel like i missed something real obbious and its pissing me off | ||
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well whatever. let me gezmt some sleep | ||
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can be either. scum on scum gives chez a free day. scum on town so that we rhink it was scum on scum? did the dhooter know it was fake? what a bag of wifom. same with the missing 0.25 on tt2. could be to didcredit slam. to discredit tt2. might be scum saving scum!tt2. might be hosts trolling. another bag of wifom. i think mechanics shouldnt matter at all for reads. but that gives me a lot of problems with my reads on at least 2 ppl. | ||
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On January 05 2017 09:39 Irresistible Object wrote: The Gods deem a Change in Play The magicians’ guild has announced an embargo on all killing magicks. All nighttime killing abilities are now TRACK/DELIVER. so. that kinda means chez could not have delivered kp n1 because it was factional? | ||
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Day 1 Koshi (7) : Grackaroni (2) : Koshi, LightningStrike, LightningStrike (1) : darthfoley (1) : Superbia Superbia (1) : Alakaslam (0) : beentheredonethat (0) : Chezinu (0) : disformation (0) : ExO_ (0) : Tictock (0) : Not voting (1) : Alakaslam Day 2 ExO_ (6) : Time Traveler (3) : Alakaslam, beentheredonethat, darthfoley, Alakaslam (1) : darthfoley (0) : Grackaroni (0) : Not voting (1) : ExO_ Assuming we are still dealing with 3 scum. spread is most likely 2-1 (two scum on exo, one tt2) or 2-0-1 (twp exo, chez) if tt2 is scum we might even have all three on exo, but imo thats slightly less likely. | ||
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From what I remember Slam placed his vote on TT2 based on a bit of omgus and tt2 wanted slam over exo at eod. | ||
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i really do not like new mechanics in night cause i have only 24h and need all the time i can get for vca | ||
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chez? wanna explain? | ||
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On January 05 2017 13:46 Tictock wrote: Ok I tried to get caught up but am still behind @ page 95. I really think there is mafia in BtDt and LS. Possibly both. If BtDt is mafia then Traveler is basically confirmed town. There is probably also mafia in GB/Slam at this point as well. I kinda want someone to check Chez because I don't want to lynch him for very bad reasons. i second the notion of a check on chez. please for the love of this game let us have a copper. | ||
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On January 05 2017 23:35 Tictock wrote: Actually a quick word about my thoughts on N1 since Darth spilled the beans about our QT/almost scum team. As I said before I don't think the Hosts are outright lying to us. I feel like they made a snap call about putting Darth, Grack, and Me together kus of our posting D1. They called us a Scum team because that's how I framed our buddy group at one point. I suspect that during the break they realized that was a bit too much to leave us as a 2nd scum team with KP in a 13 player game and so changed the rules on us. So I am quite certain that the Original mafia team chose to kill Super and that it was not KP from the house of Brown. I also believe this means the chances of one of us being mafia is pretty low. I think if there was mafia within the House they would have wanted 2 townies to die and not let potential KP stack. Finally, while I am not 100% on Darth I do pretty strongly think he is Town still and that Super was killed to implicate him as well as remove another potentially strong Town player (Koshi being the other one). I also think this means one of the House is likely to die tonight. Ok I lied about this being a quick word. thats a really good post. also: if scum tried to shoot someone else, but shot into prot, who shot super? nobody claimed. would also explain why im having such a hard time finding the scum in the house. though i have some minor issues with df. let me filter later tp explain. that prolly means i am cutting ls,btdt and gb too much slack. which would make sense. my ls read has been blehish all game, btdt had soe really strange posts and gb has been absent at critical times twice. so its prolly 1-2 of those and the remainder is in our dear ???. | ||
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Not sure about last one. Want to see GB post more and what btdt's big D3 thing is. Kinda have a hunch. | ||
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was kinda tempted to ask weird troll questions, but since there are no other submissions atm i just put in the first not super crap thing i could think of | ||
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Are you a spirit of the: obs gods dead or something? only problem is that that delays "real" info to day 4. by then it might be too late? | ||
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i made teaffee instead. tastes horrible. chez is certainly not easy to mimick and i agree that it would make sense for it to be him. we def. need to try and figure out chez and slam tonight. | ||
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At least the house is still playing the game. still would like you to chime into the stuff grack has been posting just now. omw home. will be bach *insert arnie gif* after dinner etc | ||
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On January 06 2017 05:31 darthfoley wrote: I mainly wanted to write the story. Only thing I don't like about disformation's vote thing is that it has no mention of anyone else in the game. What if they think one of us is somewhat scummy, but person X or Y is very scummy? They can't put option 5 cuz they don't think were all pure, but they don't feel comfortable putting option 1-3 cuz we're not their main scum read. That is, if they're even reading the game. I would prefer to hear more about what they think of LS, btdt etc. feels like a wasted vote tbh That is a good point. But imo I was only allowed 5 options and that house of brown thing was the best fit for that. Also at that time i still was pretty sure there is like at least one scummer in there. | ||
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wait. TT did convince me to dont think the house of brown has any scummer. DF wants a lquestion where his name is not an option. Grack writes that list. #paranoia TBH. If two out of three of you are scum the game is ogre anyways. going to support grack. | ||
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I fucking absolutely hate x:59 posts and I really hate myself for doing one myself. Def. will commit sudoku after this game. ![]() I don't know why TT thinks the shot will be in the House of Brown, I am a fairly obv. shot. Maybe I'll be saved. Maybe there will be a medic dodge. I think I have a pretty decent chance at ending up dead. Town is in a pretty shitty situation imo, so I def. want town to have following pieces of information D3, in case I die: + Show Spoiler [btdt] + BTDT's Paper Plane to me was more like: "Hi i'm two shot cop, got a green check on you". Would have preferred him to check Slam, Chez or someone, but with his filter it makes decent sense he would check me. This also explains why he flipped his scum read on me to a hard TR without any mention in thread, as DF pointed out here: On January 04 2017 23:52 darthfoley wrote: [...] Now disformation is completely off the table with no explanation as to why. Could it be because disformation is starting to townread the man? He does a complete 180 and goes from "perfectly fine lynching D2 disformation" to not even on his potential "i'm okay with..." list. I find this most striking because I think disformation is generally playing the same type of game, being unsure etc. Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but I don't understand the progression. [...] Which is like a HUGE cop tell. Since I was already somewhat thinking about mentioning the messages I got, I prefer as much to be in thread as possible, I decided to depict the message I got from btdt as a somewhat scummy buddying thing that would a lot of sense for him to send me, kinda as either alignment. The goal was to downplay his read flip and generally make it less likely for scum to shoot/RB him. Or less like super obv that he is like an investigative and send me info. In my head it is super obv that I was downplaying his message to me to protect him. I was super fucking surprised when he not only completely missed my post about that, but also totally freaked out about it when he found out. Maybe I should have not mentioned the thing at all, but in my head it was a decent play. ... sry, I guess. Might also be he really just buddied me, but at least hear him out D3. + Show Spoiler [my nightaction] + It was a real bitch picking a target. I def. wanted to get info on the ???. Slam, Chez and tt2. All of them are nigh unreadable, all of them have a decent chance of flipping scum. Since I tried to direct the other investigatives onto Chez already and my ouja thing involved Chez too I picked Slam. Furthermore I think Slam had more connections and possibilities to give us further information should I be successful. You know like he is slightly less likely to be scum with tt2. Also. I don't really believe Slam's crumb and I think he can have made that as either alignment. Slam if you are town I am really sorry, but I think you are the slightly better target than chez. "But disformation, wtf are you actually doing?" you ask. Well. The mighty Gods of Laz granted me a one use waffleiron. "But disformation, wtf does that do?" you ask. It makes waffles, duh. "..." you reply. Aaaaaand it kinda is made of iron and weighs a lot, so I'll be applying it to Slams face until he hopefully flips over. tldr: I'm using a one time vig shot, I got granted this phase, on Slam. I'm praying to the Gods of Laz that my aim is true. Now that I probably threw the game, enjoy following appriopriately texted video while waiting for the resolution: FOR THE GLORY OF LAZ: CHARGE! | ||
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well I already claimed my action, so onward my friends. I also received an item. It is a seed. I like the seed. | ||
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also lmao over here. =D but its 2 am and im fucking tired. will have more time tomorrow again | ||
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On January 06 2017 11:27 Irresistible Object wrote: This was found written on a flyer - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - We're really dissapointed by the cancelation of the last nuke, so today we're providing another way to make people take you seriously! During the next 24 hours you can submit one drawing of a nuke (use only Paint) to the game thread and at the end of the 24 hours we will choose a winner and provide them with a nuke. Good luck! So. Now they are saying the nuke was real, but got canceled? What does cancel even mean? Did it shot down or did the shooter abort the mission? There is def. something going on with that damn nuke, but it is super WIFOM and I don't really trust the hosts, esp. after that house of brown thing. Also @hosts: sry for calling the mechanics super scum favoured, I dont think I actually see a lot of what is going on. I also suspect/hope you gave scum some really bad roles. Furthermore town is probably just not active/clever enough to use mechanics in their favour. xD LS/Grack: the thing is. A not shitty case of grack would kinda look like this: Did jack D1 until called out by koshi. Omgus case on Koshi, as this case didnt go far he finally starts to play the game. Meaning it did take quite a bit of pressure for him to start playing. EoD grack had some shady stuff going on. N1 is irrelevant thanks to the house of brown story. D2 Grack and disfo talk about the above points and grack looks decent. Unfortunately Grack kinda gtfos after disfo townreads him. And then maybe look into gracks EoD2 (reminds me that I still need to revisit EoD2, too, but I was kinda busy/nervous with my night action yesterday =D.) Not saying that Grack is very scummy and I think I would lynch a lot of ppl before him, but it is not impossible that he is scum either and if LS would really think Grack was scum he could do so much more. But LS did like 0 of that. I still think that town doesnt always need to be original and sheeping a good conf. town players reads is pretty good. But esp. if no one is willing to listen to you you need to put in some work and show that you are at least thinking about stuff. Back in the day LS only used to do this rage thing as town. More of a natural reaction I guess. And for a long time he wasn't able to do that as scum. Well, at some point he got some scum mates who taught him how to do it. Now he has done it twice as scum before. This can easily be the third time. Roles don't say thaaaat much in this game either. Look at Superbia. Worst town role I ever saw. Also: On January 06 2017 15:33 LightningStrike wrote: darth if I could I would give you the bandages but I can't unfortunately unless I misread how to do it. On January 03 2017 08:39 Irresistible Object wrote: The Gods deem a Change in Play Item-Related Rules Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to the great Barter House of Laz! Here you may trade your items with one another! Certain legal services are also available. Item trading is now available. PM the host account (Irresistible Object) during day phase to give an item to someone else. ##giveitem <item> <recipient> If you change your mind, you can cancel the action, also via PM, using ##cancelgive <item> The item will be transferred at start of night (after the lynch). The transfer will be aborted if the recipient is dead. Item trading is not possible at night. You may also write a will to bequeath your item(s) to another player(s) upon your death. To bequeath an item, PM the host account (Irresistible Object) ##bequeath <item> <beneficiary> You can change the beneficiary by sending another PM, but do note that there is a one-phase cooldown for this action. (e.g. if you bequeath an item on D2, then the ##bequeath action is on cooldown for N2, and you cannot change the beneficiary again until D3.) You are freed from this restriction if your beneficiary dies -- you will be allowed to pick a new beneficiary immediately. Please do not ask for “I bequeath all my stuff to …” -- you must explicitly bequeath each item individually -- you may however consolidate multiple ##bequeath requests into a single PM. Items not bequeathed will be confiscated by hosts upon death. You may talk in thread about items you hold and what they do. You may discuss trading and will writing in thread. You can own multiple items. Each (day or night) phase: - You may use a maximum of one item - You may choose either to use an item or any role abilities that you have but not both. (Subject to rules given in item/role/ability descriptions) Items may not be discarded just because you don’t want them anymore. Quite a thing to miss if you are handling real good items. So yeah. LS real good chance at being scum at that point. Which is a bit of a pity, because the Paper Plane I got from him D2 sounded pretty genuine. Though to be totally honest... I am also just getting sick of ppl refusing to play the game. So yeah ##vote LS | ||
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Think they are more likely to be scum if they are serious. Can't really tell what counts as serious for them. Seen Chez RP his role and be very anti town as a result. Slam didn't sound very serious, but maybe he was trying to hard at that? Really wish Koshi was around, he probably has the best handle on at least Slam, but maybe we get some info from the polls. | ||
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There is def. scum in Slam/Chez. Really hard to figure it out though. TT is on another mia streak. btdt might have left the game: On January 05 2017 20:07 beentheredonethat wrote: Also im off to spending my time in a better way. I dont care about this game anymore. On January 05 2017 20:13 beentheredonethat wrote: Ah well bye. tt2 is also only posting decent stuff when he is about to get lynched, as soon as the pressure is off, hes onto minimal effort mode. | ||
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On January 05 2017 08:31 LightningStrike wrote: Well then check me again tonight to prove that I am blue. That post was also real bad. As either alignment at that. | ||
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On January 05 2017 01:04 disformation wrote: If you are scum I am unistalling this game. =D So, I have to commit sudoku and unistall teh game. pretty harsh. | ||
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On January 07 2017 04:54 GlowingBear wrote: Guys If no people was killed then there was a save or a roleblock, correctly? And if that's true, we either ROLEBLOCKED scum or saved town. Shouldn't we discuss this? Partirculary if someone had roleblocking skills. Rest assured that disformation wasn't attacked last night, by the way Quite interesting. So. I was trying to vig slam. Nobody died. TBH I was assuming I got JK'ed and shot, which would explain why both slam and me survived. DF mentioned protecting someone. Could be I was just RB'ed and DF saved someone. Didnt someone mention a rusted armor that delays the person dying by one phase/cycle? There was another for grab last night... maybe we just have tons of delayed flips? TBH I fear all this mechanical talk isnt going to help us much at this point... | ||
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On January 07 2017 05:27 Grackaroni wrote: Ok then Btdt was the one that got killed last night. I know because I picked up all of the leftover items from last night's feast as well as all of the unclaimed dead people's items. One of them was the rusty armor. My role makes me distribute all of my items by the end of the day phase. If I'm right he can only post until half way through this cycle. He can still vote during this phase. He will flip 3 hours before the lynch. Or that might also just be the point where he can no longer change his vote. Do you chose the targets for the items? If yes: When/Why did you give btdt the armor? | ||
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Kinda feel sry about attacking you btw. =/ | ||
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On January 07 2017 05:50 disformation wrote: Do you chose the targets for the items? If yes: When/Why did you give btdt the armor? On January 05 2017 06:29 Grackaroni wrote: I still think ExO may be a good lynch. Between DF and Btdt I would lynch btdt mostly based off gut. I'll vouch for TT being a townie. I don't think he should ever be lynched this game. On January 05 2017 07:46 Grackaroni wrote: I think I would be ok with any of the following: ExO LS TimeTraveler Slam Btdt. So that's not a very good place to be. Why the fuck would you give an armour to a scumread? | ||
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On January 05 2017 18:15 disformation wrote: Day 1 Koshi (7) : Grackaroni (2) : Koshi, LightningStrike, LightningStrike (1) : darthfoley (1) : Superbia Superbia (1) : Alakaslam (0) : beentheredonethat (0) : Chezinu (0) : disformation (0) : ExO_ (0) : Tictock (0) : Not voting (1) : Alakaslam Day 2 ExO_ (6) : Time Traveler (3) : Alakaslam, beentheredonethat, darthfoley, Alakaslam (1) : darthfoley (0) : Grackaroni (0) : Not voting (1) : ExO_ Assuming we are still dealing with 3 scum. spread is most likely 2-1 (two scum on exo, one tt2) or 2-0-1 (twp exo, chez) if tt2 is scum we might even have all three on exo, but imo thats slightly less likely. On January 05 2017 18:49 disformation wrote: I have no idea why chez voted slam. chez? wanna explain? continuing with this stuff. will try to keep it a bit more tldr like. tt2 comes in with a lot of votes/pressure on him. says he doesnt like his counter wagon (ExO_) and wants a slam lynch. Votes ExO_ only at the very end. (just shortly after TT1). Until these two votes it was 4:4. With ExO_ being the lynch... Unless someone bought votes. So the play by TT2 here would be incredibly hardcore risky for scum. Unless he knew there would be 0.25 votes missing on his train. But even then only 1 town on him would have needed to have bought votes. So I think this alone makes me to lynch a bunch of ppl before him. btdt doesnt like the exo lynch at all. him wanting tt2 over slam and chez makes sense if he thinks the nuke is real and he wanted to check slam in night. get your ass back in the game, ffs. -.- Slam Votes tt2 for tt2 voting him/wanting to lynch slam. "Okay" LightningStrike scumread grack. scumreads df. flips read on df, for legit reasons. agrees with my meta read on exo. On January 05 2017 06:44 LightningStrike wrote: Do I lynch Grack who been my biggest scumread yet no one wants to lynch him? Do I lynch ExO who starting to play like his scum meta? On January 05 2017 07:10 LightningStrike wrote: Vote: ExO I guess lynching ExO will be for the best for now. Don't see any mention of TT2 near EoD2? darthfoley joins the TT2 wagon to have a more pronounced 2nd wagon and spice things up. Think overall thats a townie line of thought. though it kinda implies he doesnt reaaaally care about that lynch and is a great excuse if he doesn't want to be on the same wagon as his partners. On January 05 2017 07:42 darthfoley wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: TimeTraveler On January 05 2017 07:43 darthfoley wrote: Let's spice this up On January 05 2017 07:45 darthfoley wrote: Another vote where I have like 4 candidates in my head lol Though he also agrees with btdt over the nature of this lynch. On January 05 2017 07:49 darthfoley wrote: This is also why i've moved off of him. yeah, dunno dont think i want to SR him over that. Like I think he is too town otherwise. GB Comes in late. Asks for the current situation. Agrees that ExO_ looks bad. Wants ExO_ over TT2. THe check on LS thing kinda happens and kinda gets resolved. Feeling wise I kinda think he is town disappointed on his check not working as he thought it would and being wrong on ExO_. but hard to tell since he was away all D2... Grack On January 04 2017 14:11 Grackaroni wrote: I guess I'd be willing to lynch ExO just for the discrepancy between the amount of effort he put into the game during the start of the game and his lack of involvement since then after being town read. Also has the problem of too many scumreads: On January 05 2017 07:46 Grackaroni wrote: I think I would be ok with any of the following: ExO LS TimeTraveler Slam Btdt. So that's not a very good place to be. I super agree with this though: On January 05 2017 08:52 Grackaroni wrote: Time Traveler gets some town points for trying to push people away from killing ExO when the lynch is between him and ExO. Overall problem: GTFO's after getting me to townread him and doesn't really scumhunt on his own. Just hops onto ExO_ and has a huge backup list. I really like the observation on TT2 though. If ExO_ would have played the game and LS wasnt doing his ragequit thing I might get paranoid on Grack now tbh. Tictock On January 03 2017 14:46 Tictock wrote: I kinda like Slam and Traveleres posts today but I prob shouldn't be swayed by silly things so easily. Dis is looking pretty good too, sorry I kept you from getting a seed buddy. Other people I need to reread later. We have company over and I prob will be distracted for a bit. On January 05 2017 08:42 Tictock wrote: This sounds about right. Why am I the only one who wants to murder BtDt? Hm. TT: drop me a line on the TT2 switch here. Also: On January 05 2017 08:49 Tictock wrote: Honestly if GB is telling the truth then that removed Darth Grack (Though to be honest I'm super behind reading out buddy QT, Grack fills that shit up with his personal poetry) Dis GB LS Chez (kus he's being Nuked) Slam (kus I'm soft) For my lynch pool Which I think leaves me with exactly Exo Traveler BtDt Why the fuck does EVERYONE have Exo AND traveler in his list? On January 05 2017 11:09 Tictock wrote: Ok never trust the Bear. I didn't help this phase at all though so I can't complain. I promise to step it up tomorrow, which prob means this Night still. I'm gunna hold off posting till I get caught up for now though, I've missed lots of shit going down. Made me smile though. Conclusions: Y'all are scummy mfers. ![]() | ||
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On January 07 2017 06:00 Alakaslam wrote: For what it's worth, willing to Lynch does not necessarily mean scum read Thats a point. I also just noticed that a lot of ppl have a lot of ppl in their "would lynch" list as I went through their filters. | ||
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On January 07 2017 06:09 Grackaroni wrote: I didn't give btdt the armor. I just got all of the extra items last night. I will choose who to send the items to. I think I am super confused how your stuff works then. Like if I get it right you are trying to say that btdt had an armour and will flip soonish? but if you didnt give it to him, why do you know that he has an armour? | ||
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Sry then. xD | ||
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On January 07 2017 06:28 Alakaslam wrote: Where are you getting my reasons for voting TT two from ? Thought it was this one: | ||
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On January 07 2017 07:02 Grackaroni wrote: lol if you think I'm bad, look at LS' reaction to me calling him scummy. ![]() When I see reasoning on me being put out that I don't agree with I pretty much have to respond to it instinctively. I feel like there's so many things to read me off of in my filter and you're focusing on all of the wrong things both to scum read and also town read me (with your flipped read on me due to me responding to you.) Fair enough, won't hold it against you. Maybe have to reread your entire filter at one point and try again. | ||
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it signifies the absurdity of old military personal holding onto old grudges and believes and thereby endangering the world with their refusal to step down. the white things are supposed to be clouds btw. ![]() | ||
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On January 07 2017 07:11 Grackaroni wrote: I wouldn't bother. If LS is mafia it will likely be a big waste of time since there's no way we've orchestrated this. Yeah. Won't do it D3. ![]() In all likelihood LS just flips scum and then thats that. ![]() | ||
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##nuke: timetraveler make it happen! | ||
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Probably means my means are shit. -.- | ||
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On January 07 2017 10:18 darthfoley wrote: That was without the cop knowledge right? though I'm getting more and more paranoid the longer he doesn't return The poll was open the first half of D1, so they should have known. On January 07 2017 10:19 Grackaroni wrote: The poll is just random numbers... Eh, I think it the hosts edited the actual results a bit to obfuscate it a tad and dont make it too obv who was voting in that, how many ppl, etc.. Dont think it is completely random... though actually... might be. -.- | ||
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Like: GB got 0 votes. LS got 1 vote. Btdt got 2 votes. Chez got 3 votes. TT2 got 5-6 votes. With dead ppl + obs + (co)hosts that would make sense... but has the huge problem that we have the (co)hosts were voting in that. Really hard to figure that out though. Maybe we should have gone with a question to figure out who is voting. Might be another trap and highway to wifom city though. And yeah, ppl are just not playing. ![]() | ||
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On January 07 2017 11:10 Tictock wrote: Ok can I I just take a moment to remind people that I said Pregame this was not going to be a very active game from me as I have been working more and putting more time into RL. I'm playing the game, you are just gunna have to be happy with what you get. As for the Slam/ Chez stuff you mentioned in a post before... I don't particularly like Slam's "serious" posts, kus all they do is call someone mafia with nothing behind it. His trolling posts also feel a bit lacking to me, but not sure how to explain that better ATM. What is the deal with the Seed you got from Chez? His role might be the best AI thing we have on him. Hmm... I'm not 100% sure if it is a good thing to just put it in thread. But Chez has posted a good hint already and it is exactly what I wanted. On January 07 2017 11:11 Chezinu wrote: OK!!! Who is TT and Who is TT2!??!? TT = tictock TT2 = time traveler | ||
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On January 07 2017 12:04 Tictock wrote: Did you forget about the Bill last night that said all KP abilities were being changed to tracks instead? I'm pretty sure it said that, I'm pretty sure I quoted and asked about it at one point. On January 05 2017 09:39 Irresistible Object wrote: The Gods deem a Change in Play The magicians’ guild has announced an embargo on all killing magicks. All nighttime killing abilities are now TRACK/DELIVER. I think it means nighttime killing abilities are now tackable and delivered. | ||
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On January 07 2017 14:46 Tictock wrote: Ok so this was an Obs poll 100%. Only way to get results like this is if the poll had much more than 3 votes. Given this I'm leaning toward lynching Traveler and Nuking LS. That way if LS is town the bandages get passed on. I'd prefer LS did not leave them to BtDt, however if Traveler is scum then BtDt is much less likely to be scum so maybe it's ok. Honestly it would be amazing if Slam's notion about their being no scum is true. Would truly make this a bastard game in the truest sense. I'm sticking with my call that the Hosts are not outright lying to us and thus we know this game at least started with 10 Town and 3 scum. Two things wrong with nuking LS: a) Which nuke? On January 07 2017 09:27 disformation wrote: I also didnt get a nuke, so I am kinda assuming all the stuff about the nukes is a lie. =D b) I also really don't want to nuke someone who is the lock lynch and asks for a nuke. Really easy for scum to have an anti-nuke, a power that delays his death or something else that prevents him dying to that nuke. Which puts town in a really awkward spot. Well. The game started with 3 scum... but TBH to me it is way more plausible that town just plays real bad and there are three scum. On January 07 2017 17:36 Alakaslam wrote: Couldn't find a 10 hour version of this so I had to put it on auto repeat. Good job. this: On January 06 2017 10:24 LightningStrike wrote: No nk is werid. Oh and df true or false: You got items? On January 06 2017 10:35 LightningStrike wrote: You using it might explain my result. Like it is fine if you don't have that much time to play, but I dunno. You don't seem to read stuff very carefully. Or comment a lot on outdated stuff while catching up. You had some really good posts this game, which makes this even more... dunno... *sigh*. Oh btw on this: On January 06 2017 12:05 LightningStrike wrote: I don't really care about hwo I voting with to be honest as town I shown this is in multiple games hell check the database for all my games if you have to to see if I do vote with my scumreads at times. I didn't have trouble coming up with my own reads it just sometimes I want to see how others are reading the same person or if I think a peice of meta is right. Anyways we should lynch GlowingBear because GlowingBear claimed Role Cop and said I wasn't blue when I am blue and even today I gave my result and traditionally role cop is a scum role too. Added to the fact that he came in very late EoD when the lynch was coming down. ##Vote: GlowingBear The Dota 2 game, where Shape and me where co-hosts, had a town rolecop. So GB roles prolly tells us jack about his alignment. Another huge thing: Superbia had a super shitty horrible role for town and he was forced to use it. Couldn't scum have super shitty horrible roles for scum and be forced to use it too? Which is why we really need btdt to come back, because he is like not conf. town. Two more notes on that: For some reason LS didn't see the part where I said btdt claimed 2 shot cop. So him giving the bandages to btdt makes only sense if he is either trying to help his mate or wants to implicate btdt. Another reason I want LS gone. Chez item is super pro town. I think his role is super pro town too. Unfortunately: remember what I just said about Superbia's role. But I don't think Chez is the lynch today. And I want to use the item and see what happens first. I've been thinking about that carousel... What if we force all scummy ??? players to join it. So they can't fiddle with the rest of us? If it would affect the NK it would be like really amazing. Problem is from what I understand: I will make all like track/check/whatever things crap, so its really hard to say who we want to put in there. Any ideas? Slam already fearlessly joined. I think I'd like for at least tt2 to join it too. Does anyone have abilities or items that would work well in the carousel? | ||
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Alsooooo I kinda had an idea. I need like 3 of ya guys to vote TimeTraveler with me for a bit. You can vote LS again later. And yes I still think LS should be the lynch. Just trust me, this might be real good. ##vote: tt2 | ||
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On January 08 2017 01:20 darthfoley wrote: Is he really only a two shot cop? Darn. He could've proven he was real by checking me, but it's a waste to check me if he only has two checks and he's really the cop Well thats what he claimed. | ||
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On January 08 2017 01:44 Time Traveler wrote: Is this an attempt to make me appear or something? Not really. Though a nice side effect i guess. Just want to test something and that requires a bunch of ppl voting with me for a while. | ||
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will switch to ls again like an hour b4 deadline. still no sign of btdt makes me sad though. | ||
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![]() Regarding your GB thing: well if you dont have much time to play, EoD is like the best time to show up? Agree that both TT2 and LS are easily scum at this point though. | ||
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see my one post where i had a good explanation for the poll btw | ||
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On January 07 2017 09:27 disformation wrote: I also didnt get a nuke, so I am kinda assuming all the stuff about the nukes is a lie. =D On January 07 2017 09:45 disformation wrote: Ey Hosts. ##nuke: timetraveler make it happen! Did you see a nuke message from the hosts? I didnt. | ||
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On January 07 2017 10:52 disformation wrote: Well. Could be an obfuscating scheme. Like: GB got 0 votes. LS got 1 vote. Btdt got 2 votes. Chez got 3 votes. TT2 got 5-6 votes. With dead ppl + obs + (co)hosts that would make sense... but has the huge problem that we have the (co)hosts were voting in that. Really hard to figure that out though. Maybe we should have gone with a question to figure out who is voting. Might be another trap and highway to wifom city though. And yeah, ppl are just not playing. ![]() | ||
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On January 08 2017 04:19 beentheredonethat wrote: Makes sense but does that bring us any further? Basically, do we trust obs QT? After the House of Brown thing I kinda have trust issues when it comes to the hosts. So I'd rather avoid it. xD | ||
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gb did rolecop LS N1. gb checked if ppl were attacking me N2. you are a 2 shot rolecop. LS used some ability to check if darthfoley had items N2. I also had a vig shot N2, which is also an investigative. TT did JK chez N1 which is half investigative half prot. | ||
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On January 05 2017 09:43 Irresistible Object wrote: The Gods deem a Change in Play FEAST Everyone has been invited to a feast! Listed below are the items up for grabs. To receive yours, PM the account “Irresistible Object” with the item you want. You are encouraged to submit backup options in order of preference as this is first-come-first-served! You may only successfully take one item. items Assorted Hardware Dentures First Aid Kit Knuckledusters Medicine Bottle “R” Rusty Armour Small Spear Surgical Kit On December 29 2016 09:12 Shapelog wrote: Night 1 Koshi,Noble of Laz, certified and ready to vote (vt)!, has been lynched! + Show Spoiler [Final VC] + On December 29 2016 09:03 cakepie wrote: Final Vote Count Koshi (7) : Grackaroni (2) : Koshi, LightningStrike, LightningStrike (1) : darthfoley (1) : Superbia Superbia (1) : Alakaslam (0) : beentheredonethat (0) : Chezinu (0) : disformation (0) : ExO_ (0) : Tictock (0) : Not voting (1) : Alakaslam Alakaslam has received a warning for not voting The Gods Deem a Change in Play After the end of each Day and night phase, there will be a 1 hour resolution period. You are not allowed to talk in the thread during this time. FEAST Everyone has been invited to a feast! Listed below are the items up for grabs. To receive yours, PM the account “Irresistible Object” with the item you want. You are encouraged to submit backup options in order of preference as this is first-come-first-served! You may only successfully take one item. Items Armour Assorted Hardware Buckler Boots Crossbow Medicine Bottle “P” Medicine Bottle “S” Medicine Bottle “X” Net Small Spear Sleepingbag Thermal Goggles Walkie-Talkie Night 1 has begun! The phase will end in ! Please submit any night actions for this phase to the shared Hosting account, “Irresistible Object”, to be counted for! We will be taking a break for newyears. The game will pause at the end of the night phase () due to timezones. You may not post during this time. Game will resume on Sunday, Jan 03 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) With day post 2 being posted at that time There are two armours? I assume btdt got the first one and grack got the second one? | ||
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On January 08 2017 06:00 disformation wrote: But how did you get the rusty armour? that was during the time you were not playing? Actually might be messing up the times here. nvm. | ||
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On January 08 2017 06:05 beentheredonethat wrote: I didn't get it. I just double checked. I got the "Armour" but it's rusty. It's in my filter somewhere where I explain that the famous "Armour" is not that great because it will eventually get me killed". When I compared "Armour" to "Rusty Armour" in the post you made, I thought that I received the "Rusty Armour" but yeah I received the "Armour". Which also explains why Grack picked up the "Rusty Armour" as it was leftover. Ah. See. All cool. | ||
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Still have 3 no voters and the possibility of bought vote power. Or some vote manip role. Or both. | ||
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some might bite into my distration. 1 can be in the non voters. | ||
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LS is like 75% scum, 25% plynch. TT2 is like the master of minimal effort. chez and slam are both coin flips. like I wish I got the role I wanted and could just vig all of them in the night. xD | ||
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But I am either missing something, or I dont know... | ||
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It is more the thought process and showing that you are trying to solve the game. And I dont count spamming "I am VT" or throwing a tantrum as either. i just feel my reads are horrible F tier this game. | ||
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On January 08 2017 10:23 GlowingBear wrote: Awesome lynch I'm happy I was right on someone Voting would have been great? | ||
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LightningStrike (3.00) : Grackaroni, darthfoley, beentheredonethat (1.00) : Time Traveler | ||
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a) plant it and get more seeds from it b): On December 30 2016 05:35 disformation wrote: I think we are in such a state of disarray that neither a seed that sprouts in a healing flower nor a seed that sprouts into a poisonous one are a good choice. I'd love a seed that sprouts a flower blossoming in the true colours of the person at whose feet I sow it. If that is possible. =D | ||
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On January 08 2017 10:21 disformation wrote: A SEED HAS BEEN SOWN IN THE GARDEN OF CITIZEN LIGHTNINGSTRIKE OF LAZ. IT BLOSSOMED INTO A BLUE AND BEAUTIFUL FLOWER | ||
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A SEED HAS BEEN SOWN IN THE GARDEN OF CITIZEN LIGHTNINGSTRIKE OF LAZ. IT BLOSSOMED INTO A BLUE AND BEAUTIFUL FLOWER also sry for the caps | ||
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Day 1 Koshi (7) : Grackaroni (2) : Koshi, LightningStrike, LightningStrike (1) : darthfoley (1) : Superbia Superbia (1) : Alakaslam (0) : beentheredonethat (0) : Chezinu (0) : disformation (0) : ExO_ (0) : Tictock (0) : Not voting (1) : Alakaslam Day 2 ExO_ (6) : Time Traveler (3) : Alakaslam, beentheredonethat, darthfoley, Alakaslam (1) : darthfoley (0) : Grackaroni (0) : Not voting (1) : ExO_ | ||
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On January 08 2017 10:33 Grackaroni wrote: I really could not care less about the checks. LightningStrike is still scum. Nope. | ||
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its not impossible for LS to be scum. I think it somewhat unlikely now. BTDT and tt are like conf. town to me now. and the way the votes look and stuff I dont think its like tt2, slam, chez. so its gotta be someone more active... which would also kinda explain the way this game was going. | ||
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You are not even willing to consider a scenario in which LS is town for one second. | ||
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Also 3 am here. So I am going to bed. Lets see what the rest of the gang says when/if they show up. | ||
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There is def. something odd with the NKs. Superbia was also pretty weird after all. | ||
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On January 08 2017 11:16 disformation wrote: I thought the hosts made KP trackable/deliverable? only. you know what I eman. god really need to go to bed, cu tomorrow | ||
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thing with gb is that the only reason to sr him is basically activity imo. but let me reread his filter. will read tt2 too. | ||
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On January 08 2017 12:33 LightningStrike wrote: Well just got home and I honestly surprised that disformation decided to not lynch me and was hoping to die just so I wouldn't be a question mark. Anyways someone gave me suspicious narcotics which makes me return as mafia to cop checks -.- Also it's good to see Time Traveler flipped scum ^_^ Also df just confirmed he saved Grack so Grack might actually be town here. Also noted that disformation just confirmed I am blue before I got the suspicious narcotics. @Slam: Why you think Chez is scum? @Grack: I sorry about how I treated you like absolute crap and will do a self impose exile from playing for a good 2 months. I wont blame you for trying to just vote me despite everything. ![]() | ||
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On January 08 2017 14:00 Tictock wrote: Dis I think we need you in House of Brown QT. I think we need some new blood and someone who can solve a mystery. If that could be arranged that would be great. Think there is a lot of info in there. | ||
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Only post on LS: On December 29 2016 06:39 Time Traveler wrote: I filtered LS and I liked it at the beggining. He seemed to be consistent with his reads and such, but I do not like how he, after scumreading Koshi, decides to vote Grack after he Koshi makes a post about why people should lynch Grack. Then he says that it is because Grack is more likely to be Mafia than Koshi, and this is because he defended Koshi. Huuuh. Sounds strange that the person who defends his scum read gets scum read as well. BTDT: On December 29 2016 07:40 Time Traveler wrote: Well, then I can say that I voted BtDt because #yolo. On January 04 2017 16:04 Time Traveler wrote: I actually don't mind being punished. It kind of adds interest to the game. Exo was not a better option because he was town-read by a lot of people and he was the one who was talking the game seriously. I voted you because It was mandatory and you: 1- Hadn't talked. 2- Were not being voted. So I just voted you because the chances of you suddenly being almost lynched were very small (and it happened, dang). But I obviously wojld prefer you than Exo. Then, you suddenly came back and started posting so I felt like huh, he deserves his chance to play. On January 08 2017 05:50 Time Traveler wrote: BtDt, congratulations for being scum!: You said in page 199 that your scum-reads were Tictock and me. And now you said "Oh LS. That leaves Chez and Time Traveler, seems legit". Ooh! Where did Tictock go? I see an extreme change just for your convenience! ##vote Beentheredonethat I guess I can pardon Chez for a while. So. Yeah think BTDT is very town from that stuff. Otherwise he like barely mentions GB. His reads on TT/Grack/Darth are somewhat strange and he lazily has a town lean very early on them. Otherwise hes flipping between slam/chez. | ||
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Like he had a good D1. And when he came bakc D2 with little time, he asked the right questions and tried to get the best lynch for what limited info he got. lynch was between two of his top scumreads he chose the wrong one. hmmm... investigatives into gb/chez/slam would be great | ||
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On January 08 2017 23:52 LightningStrike wrote: disformation since you are here thoughts on the wagons of ExO vs Time Traveler Day 2? Okay lets look at that thing again: Day 2 ExO_ (6) : Time Traveler (3) : Alakaslam, beentheredonethat, darthfoley, Alakaslam (1) : darthfoley (0) : Grackaroni (0) : Not voting (1) : ExO_ Its either 1-1-1 or 2-0-1 or 2-1-0 If a second scummer is on the ExO_ its probably in GlowingBear, Grackaroni, Tictock just from the voting pattern. If all three of those are town its basically: Chez + either slam or DF. From what I recall GB convinced tt to join on ExO_ as it was 4:4. Might look shady. BUT as scum GB would have known TT2 would save himself. Can't remember why grack and TT ended up voting ExO_ exactly though. I think DF was like "oh I kinda dont like both, but I want a second wagon." which on one hand gives a good excuse to not be on the same wagon as your scum mates, but I guess it would be more scummy if both wagons are town. | ||
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On January 05 2017 07:58 LightningStrike wrote: ExO because he playing more of his scum meta than town meta. | ||
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On January 09 2017 02:18 darthfoley wrote: Why is everyone town reading LS suddenly? Cause being both the counterwagon to scum and being town checked makes it a bunch more unlikely for him being town. he also posts better stuff ever since he calmed down. | ||
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but i dont know, between my gut and those things I think it is pretty unlikely he is scum by now. he also had a very low score in the last ouija poll. Yeah, we should not 100% trust that thing, but TT2 had a 50% and flipped scum. Chez also had quite a bunch of votes in that. Imo we should finally resolve Chez/Slam next. | ||
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On January 09 2017 02:52 darthfoley wrote: Wait btdt town checked him? Must've missed that then lol wtf?! | ||
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On January 08 2017 10:33 disformation wrote: oops... A SEED HAS BEEN SOWN IN THE GARDEN OF CITIZEN LIGHTNINGSTRIKE OF LAZ. IT BLOSSOMED INTO A BLUE AND BEAUTIFUL FLOWER also sry for the caps | ||
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Chez role is imo very pro town. From what we have seen so far. But by giving us items he makes us think he is town. Look at superbia's role. He had a super anti town role and was forced to use it. What if Chez is forced to give town items? Thats all a bunch of wifom though. | ||
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On January 09 2017 04:36 Tictock wrote: I took a look through Traveler's filter as well. Based on interactions I think BtDt and Dis are basically never scum. The reactions to BtDt's push are too real to be a bus imo, and there was just a lot of interaction with Dis that seemed like he was trying to convince Dis. I think Grack and Chez are the people Traveler talked about / interacted with the least. Chez could prob go either way still since Traveler's reaction to the poll was to vote Chez. As for Grack there is almost 0 mention of him in Traveler's filter. What I find really interesting though is the Grack read in the big list post Traveler did. It looks like Traveler has literally never read one post from Grack and he puts all his thoughts about the House of Brown in his Darth read and just skips talking about Grack entirely. Other than that I think it is interesting how Traveler starts off saying there probably isn't mafia in the buddy triangle and then later is certain there is at least one mafia in the group. I'll probably take another look at Traveler's filter later on. His big list post def had some wonky reads but he kinda left room to call everyone mafia (expect Dis) so it isn't terribly easy to spot associations from it. Yeah, I got basically the same stuff from his filter. | ||
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On January 05 2017 07:55 GlowingBear wrote: I don't know, I didn't read day2. I want to lynch Exo because I was sure he is mafia. I want to be right. But my best bet is that we should lynch time traveler On January 05 2017 07:59 GlowingBear wrote: Just gut feeling right now, nothing else On January 05 2017 08:49 GlowingBear wrote: I say we keep on Time traveler and Exo On January 05 2017 08:57 GlowingBear wrote: TT, Lynch exo GB why did you want ExO_ over time traveler at the end, when you said you would prefer TT2 over ExO_ earlier? | ||
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On January 09 2017 05:31 beentheredonethat wrote: I think disfo you had this thought somewhere in your filter I have a LOT in my filter. but i dont think i have that in my filter. buuuut yeah. | ||
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On January 06 2017 10:58 GlowingBear wrote: I refuse to write a 100 word essay to disformation. NOW WHAT HOSTS? That post might have gotten him a harsher punishment? | ||
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On January 09 2017 07:36 darthfoley wrote: Maybe? But it's super problematic and a big headache to figure out if that's the case. I mean in theory, we could both be right. He could've gotten a harsher punishment while also being mafia lol Thats true. | ||
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Got another two things for you. + Show Spoiler [first] + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + oops, picked the wrong one! + Show Spoiler [second] + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + got the items from LS. One was a medicine that is one time use and I can't use it on myself, so I think it is an actual medic save, so I am using it on btdt. In case I die the bandages go to TT. May the Gods of Laz bless my actions. | ||
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I also stayed up solely to bring scum following msg: IF I TELL YOU TO SHOOT ME IN THE FACE YOU SHOOT ME IN THE FACE! gn8 | ||
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and there was missing KP and no one else did flip, so it wasnt a shot into armour. so where else did that KP go if it wasnt you? | ||
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On January 09 2017 10:31 LightningStrike wrote: Can someone tell me why would mafia kill df over btdt when btdt is a claimed 2 shot cop? cause hes the obv target fot the healing items we wrre talking about all day, | ||
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which kinda would explain d3 but for some reason i dont think the nk looks like its team afk... | ||
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On January 09 2017 11:14 Tictock wrote: Looking at the Carasel stuff I'm not sure I see a difference between yesterday and today. I'm actually wondering if it might be better for the Towny people to ride that rather than the scummy people. Kus we want actions to happen on the question marks or scummy looking people and it would make it hard for mafia to get their preffered kill, potential role blocks, or whatever to hit where they want. Thoughts? oh. i might have misunderstood how thst works. that would mske a lot of sense. thought it doesnt affect kp | ||
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On January 09 2017 15:08 beentheredonethat wrote: I checked GlowingBear and it says that he's apparently a RWBY fan. Which would mean red af. ##vote GlowingBear i think i slept like 3 hours. works gonna be fun. technically this would make GB 1/4 red. ruby, weiss, blake and yang are basically red, white, black and yellow. though ruby is kinda the teamleader and the namesake of the team, do yeah i guess its some sort of redcheck. fun fact1: schnee is pronounced horribly wrong in the show. they pronounce it schnii not schnee. fun fact 2: i like yang the most. fun fact 3: need to check for the newrst ep. | ||
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if ppl can vote multiple times like i vould in the mvp thing that might be real bad now. | ||
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But sometimes I wish I would be green so wouldn't have to make difficult decisions and feel the weight of the game on my shoulders all the time. And sometimes I wish I was Black and a Survivor and couldn't give a fuck. Wouldn't mind being Brown so I could see that damn qt. but screw y'all i'm claiming #4E2A84 | ||
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On January 09 2017 17:41 disformation wrote: I am blue. But sometimes I wish I would be green so wouldn't have to make difficult decisions and feel the weight of the game on my shoulders all the time. And sometimes I wish I was Black and a Survivor and couldn't give a fuck. Wouldn't mind being Brown so I could see that damn qt. but screw y'all i'm claiming #4E2A84 Even better idea: I am a rainbow I win this game no matter what. =D | ||
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Day 1 Koshi (7) : Grackaroni (2) : Koshi, LightningStrike, LightningStrike (1) : darthfoley (1) : Superbia Superbia (1) : Alakaslam (0) : beentheredonethat (0) : Chezinu (0) : disformation (0) : ExO_ (0) : Tictock (0) : Not voting (1) : Alakaslam Day 2 ExO_ (6) : Time Traveler (3) : Alakaslam, beentheredonethat, darthfoley, Alakaslam (1) : darthfoley (0) : Grackaroni (0) : Not voting (1) : ExO_ Day 3 Time Traveler (4) : LightningStrike (3) : Grackaroni, darthfoley, beentheredonethat (1) : Time Traveler Chezinu (0) : GlowingBear (0) : Not voting (2) : Chezinu, GlowingBear | ||
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Slam: No vote Chez: Early on Hoshi for no reason. Grack: already talked about that a bunch that. looked not good at the time, but explanations looked decent. GB: sheeps thread consent onto Hoshi LS: gives me a deja vu from the liquidmana scum games. votes together with hoshi on the unpopular wagon while afking EoD. btdt and tt did look okay. though not a fan of TT being on a useless wagon. | ||
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I am really annoyed that Chez and GB didn't vote D3. As that could really help figuring this mess out. Then again: a scum got lynched D3 and it was rather close. So them not voting might be the information we need. Though Chez handing out dope items left and right really throws me off. | ||
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On December 28 2016 10:58 Chezinu wrote: Pst. Rumors say radioactivity causes the glow.... You have any nukes?!?!? MAY THE HOSTS GRANT US NUKES!!! LET THE SEEDS GROW!!! Chez did you fake nuke yourself D2?^^ | ||
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On January 09 2017 19:24 Tictock wrote: I'm actually pretty sure I want to lynch Chez today. I'm interested in the poll results though. well, do you distrust the rwby check on GB? | ||
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On January 09 2017 15:08 beentheredonethat wrote: I checked GlowingBear and it says that he's apparently a RWBY fan. Which would mean red af. ##vote GlowingBear RWBY is like an animated series made in the US. The four protagonists are named: Ruby, Weiss, Blake and Yang. Their associated colours are: Red, White, Black, Yellow. Since Ruby is like the leader and namesake of the team and associated with Red, it could very well be a red check. No idea why Mecha Cow GB would return that as his alignment though. Which kinda confuses me. | ||
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have some nice ideas for this phase though. might want to wait for the poll though. also: i think i dont like the carousel because it will make it even harder for town to figure out what happened. another random thing: not sure what grack has been doing in the night all game. outside of slam i have at least a vague idea of what everyone was doing | ||
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not 100% sure what that check is trying to tell us though | ||
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Thing with GB is that I think his D1 is rather town, but the voting patters say he has a good chance of being scum... | ||
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0 idea which info I can trust and which I cant trust. and depending on what I assume to be true the game is either incredible easy or incredible hard. | ||
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wtf is a deliver. 100% it meant trackable/delivered. | ||
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On January 09 2017 23:36 disformation wrote: well it said track/deliver. wtf is a deliver. 100% it meant trackable/delivered. On January 09 2017 23:50 disformation wrote: i think you should get a message in that case yeah. pretty sure that is how it is. otherwise it would make like 0 sense. I get this is a bastard game and they can do what they want. but it would be so stupid i'll lynch the hosts post game. | ||
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Chez why did you fake nuke yourself D2? So you didnt need to play? Or are you immune to nukes? | ||
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I also don't like that all you have been doing since coming in is to wifom around mechanics. | ||
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unless chez seed is inherently insane or LS has like a GF thing. | ||
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On January 10 2017 00:06 disformation wrote: I also think that scum probably didnt see us lynching tt2 over LS and its therefore less likely my check got fucked with. unless chez seed is inherently insane or LS has like a GF thing. EBWOP | ||
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TT had a 1 shot JK. DF had a 1 shot healing item apparently (his role has like no powers). I had a 1 shot healing item. Combined we are like 1 doc. I got some more stuff that can delay KP, but I can't do two things at the same time. Slam had/has his bodyguards. There are two armour items, which also delay kp. I haven't seen that much kp around. Though bottom line is: It appears town got all/most of the good items. Also you complaining about too many prots makes you sound a bit like scum complaining. | ||
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On January 10 2017 01:32 disformation wrote: Oh. I am pretty stupid. ofc scum wouldnt shoot btdt last night, when he still had his armour. *facepalm* or has. | ||
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ls is one of the few lynchable persons left. so yeah. if its you and chez ofc you have to shoot df. | ||
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guess regardless of who scum is, the only good shot was like df. | ||
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On January 10 2017 01:51 Alakaslam wrote: I am drakon were you always drakon? you told me koshi was drakon. does that mean I can be bismarck now? | ||
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will try to filter everyone b4 end of day. will go to bed early today, so you guys might ahve to wait until tomorrow evening. | ||
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but i kinda want to see the polls first. | ||
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buuuut so this thing doesnt totally die imma tell you something nice before heading out. i received one nuke. apparently from chez. | ||
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can you add a Irresistible Object filter link to the op, please? :D | ||
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you were the rolecop... or so you claimed? | ||
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we can like lynch chez, nuke GB with the nuke I got from chez and if the game isnt over we can lynch LS. though that is a bit mean imo. | ||
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The names are: Ruby, Weiss, Blake and Yang. And yeah its kinda just a play on: Red, White, Black, Yellow | ||
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GB and Chez also make sense from voting patterns and would explain D3. | ||
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Just dont know if it was a fake nuke or if he is nuke resistant. his seed was also slightly radiated... | ||
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a) gb + chez b) ls + one of a) c) everythings fucked and its like one of grack/tt/btdt and like lol slam. or two of those. c) is not that likely and I hope I die really soon if it is realitly | ||
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but yeah, sry dudes really gotta get some sleep. | ||
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though not sure how trustworthy that thing is now that scum is voting in it. | ||
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I have a pretty strong feeling something in this game is going pretty wrong. Suggesting a c) world. with dolphins n shit. And if we are in such a world it is very likely you are scum. | ||
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but yeah. I'll probably just have to nuke grack. | ||
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On January 10 2017 09:18 cakepie wrote: The Gods deem a Change in Play Welcome to Ouija Scribing Ceremony Everyone has gathered in the lobby of the town hall for this event. An official government augur steps up to the board to operate it. A chill descends over the room. The spirits have arrived. As watch intently, with the question focused in your minds, the planchette skips jerkily and haltingly across the board. Here is your result. ![]() You thank the spirits for their input and bid them GOOD BYE for now. + hes scum that managed to make me waffle off of him D2 | ||
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he started of with a super bleh D1 got SR by koshi made a omgus case on koshi started to play the game as the case went nowhere end of D1 he basically had to be reminded that it would make a lot of sense for him to be voting koshi over LS. N1 is NAI thanks to house of brown (thx hosts) D2 i case him. he interacts with me until i waffle off him. he gtfos. EoD2 he likes tt2 and votes ExO_ (kay I did the same). but where was his LS scum read D2? D3 he starts with the LS thing again and is kinda annoyed we were voting TT2 over LS. | ||
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On January 08 2017 11:06 Grackaroni wrote: We still haven't resolved the missing night kill. The only plausible explanation I have heard so far was a medic save from Foley on me. Also 100% scum post right here. | ||
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On January 07 2017 10:19 Grackaroni wrote: The poll is just random numbers... Also great post if you realize TT2 might have been his partner who had like 50% on the poll... | ||
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On January 11 2017 01:02 disformation wrote: to summarize grack: he started of with a super bleh D1 got SR by koshi made a omgus case on koshi started to play the game as the case went nowhere end of D1 he basically had to be reminded that it would make a lot of sense for him to be voting koshi over LS. N1 is NAI thanks to house of brown (thx hosts) D2 i case him. he interacts with me until i waffle off him. he gtfos. EoD2 he likes tt2 and votes ExO_ (kay I did the same). but where was his LS scum read D2? D3 he starts with the LS thing again and is kinda annoyed we were voting TT2 over LS. on D2: yes he had LS still in his huge list of ppl he was willing to lynch, but made no push in any direction | ||
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On January 08 2017 03:44 beentheredonethat wrote: So, first things first: I am a two shot cop. I have a "Magnifying Glass" which lets me zoom in on people and lets me know the alignment according to the item's description. I had this item from the very beginning. The night Superbia died, I checked disformation. I was pretty pissed about him because he felt so un-contributing that I chose to target him, hoping to be able to ride a copclaim to a disformation lynch D2. But my magnifying glass said that there's a green under it. Note how it said "green", I think I'm not allowed to quote the heavily themed host PM but I think I can write around it. It basically was a description of the person under the magnifying glass, and it said the person would have a green shirt. As this was the only color implication (basically, it was the description of a bavarian man in lederhosn) I took it as a town alignment. Given that, I sent my paper plane to disformation as I thought that I am under suspcicion for my late game entry anyways and hoped he would be rational enough to not push me. I knew he was town so I felt confident. Given that I did not die in this night, I think it's pretty clear that disformation indeed is town (although there's like a 10% chance or so that the "green shirt" did not imply a town check). I was amazingly mad when I saw that disfo claimed to have received a PM that I sent to the hosts origginally, stating that I am sorry for how I treated him EoD1. Fun thing is that while disfo apparently made that up, I indeed sent a PM to Shapelog, saying that I felt like I went too far in my disformation rage and got way too much on a personal level, and Shapelog basically offered me to remind me postgame to apologize to disformation. I absolutely hated and still hate that Tictock is not caught up at all yet chimes in every now and then to put shade on me without having any clue of how the game is going. I see myself as one of the main game drivers D2, and I felt like I put up solid points about Time Traveler and I was raging af when I realized that ExO was town. I have not submitted my second check in the night phase. I was absolutely pissed at the hosts for seemingly exchanging the PMs, thus I felt like I got fucked over and chose to not come back to play this game. However, I got PM'ed by kitaman in the meantime, asking me to play Newbie Mafia as I have confirmed there. So I came back to TL, and started reading this game, and I realized that disformation, well, lied about what I sent to him. I still have my second check. I need to be protected in the following night I guess. Disformation is confirmed town. My scumreads are Time Traveler and TicTock. I like the LS stuff. He even sent me a paper plane saying that he'd provide the famous bandages to me but I have not received any bandages. I don't know when or if I am going to receive them. Grackaroni needs to explain why he thought I'd be dead. Yes, I had the rusty armour, correct, but I used it already. By the way this could mean that I was attacked and will flip at the end of this day. However, I got no notification about that. Could be Grack TMI'ing at this point. So. All of this post is only possible due to disformation so this post should be regarded as a praise. btdt: where/when/how did you use your armour? | ||
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On January 10 2017 14:13 Tictock wrote: Roommates' bday is tonigh so I am drunk as fuck. I'm totally down to lynch GB today and look into Grack tomorrow. I have a pretty good reason to scumread Grack ATM though. Gimme dat pretty good reason. | ||
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On January 11 2017 01:26 GlowingBear wrote: If you're so right on him being scum, why aren't you lynching him? Why are you ignoring the fact that I intercepted a message where LS sent you GUYS the bandage? On January 10 2017 17:32 disformation wrote: ##unvote ##Vote: Grackaroni | ||
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On January 11 2017 01:26 GlowingBear wrote: If you're so right on him being scum, why aren't you lynching him? Why are you ignoring the fact that I intercepted a message where LS sent you GUYS the bandage? What do you mean intercepted a message? | ||
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also didnt send one | ||
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On January 11 2017 01:40 GlowingBear wrote: Ok you're Mafia. Wow, well played dude scum. claim. its you and grack. concede, please. | ||
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am really close to nuking myself because this game is starting to really annoy me. a) HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU THINK I AM SCUM b) WHY THE FUCK WOULD LS SEND ME THAT CRAP OF A MESSAGE you got that shit from grack who is probably scum. could he have put that message in? why the fuck not | ||
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On January 11 2017 01:47 GlowingBear wrote: Disfo, LS recently admitted he sent you the message. So it means the message I got is true. Now you're saying you didn't receive it. But instead of saying it right when I talked about the intercepted message, you ignored it. Then you decided to talk about it. Then you decided to say you didn't receive it. It's bullshit, your reaction isn't townie. There was a thought process deciding to say that you got 0 message, instead of saying it right away (which would be the townie reaction). THIS IS HORSESHIT | ||
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On January 11 2017 01:50 GlowingBear wrote: He answers my question like it is true. He only says he gave me the damn stuff? | ||
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And throwing the game. ##nuke: disformation I really hope chez didnt give me a fake | ||
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can you confirm sending me a msg or not? i didnt get shit today | ||
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Didnt realize you intercepted a msg at all. Thought that was something he posted | ||
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Could be my read on LS has been shitty all game. but I really think grack is scum... though I dont know | ||
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On January 11 2017 02:03 disformation wrote: Sry, kinda exploded. Thats the second time I did that. ![]() exploded, get it? =D | ||
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If the nuke is real and we misslynch thats 4-2 going into night. | ||
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On January 11 2017 02:11 LightningStrike wrote: Also nuking yourself is dumb disformation..... yes. | ||
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On January 11 2017 02:14 LightningStrike wrote: But still where did the kp went from Night 2? real good question. thats why I was asking btdt earlier where/what/how he used his armour | ||
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This is like the second time I had a breakdown when I was playing games back to back. sry town | ||
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maybe he says he is a doctor cause his nukes heal? =D | ||
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really bad that I exploded (hihi) like this two times already | ||
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On January 11 2017 02:23 LightningStrike wrote: It's fine dis I blew up Day 3 myself I plan on taking a 2 month break from TL Mafia after this game. nice one! =D | ||
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like one of the things why i am somewhat stressed out about the game: its super wifom city everywhere. i basically could be wrong on everyone. its like grasping at straws for town/scum reading anyone. but yeah i feel immensely stupid now. should have done a yolo shot yesterday. or shoot a ???. though i have a feeling that chez is not nukeable. i am pretty sure he nuked himself D2, but i dont know if it was a fake or if he is nuke immune. again everything is wifom. I also think that town generally fucked up super hard on the mechanics, by mostly ignoring them. though tbh they kind of feel like a trap to me. like why would you use that carousel thing? feels like it makes thing more random? force all the scummy player into that and your checks are crap. force all town player into that, you have no fucking idea what happened if stuff fails. the messages are imo also super scum favoured, esp. if scum can fiddle with that. only the ouija thing is like super amazing. | ||
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who I have a blue check on and my gut tells me he is town since like D1. | ||
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On January 11 2017 02:36 beentheredonethat wrote: im here. just came home from work. I'm caught up. Disfo, I used the armour N2, after I sent you the paper plane. I thought that if I'd be attacked, I'd at least be able to claim my paper plane to you and get scum lynched. I think we shouldn't get distracted at this point. GB is going to flip scum. disformation I swear to god if that nuke hits and kills you and you're town, I'll never get in a game with you again. You're confirmed town and thus a 100% necessary nightkill for scum. Once Glowingbear is dead we need to decide between Slam, Grack, LS and Tictock. Any of them can be the remaining scum. If the nuke kills disformation we're left with one scum in five people which is actually okay. Tictock again afk'ing makes me worry incredibly Fair enough. For being pissed at ExO_, LS and partially you for not actually playing the game, I am a huge dipshit myself. | ||
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might go to bed earlier as planned. dont see the votes moving around much and resolution will prolly take ages, with hosts having to decide if they want me dead for being an idiot or being okay with me just wasting this nuke. | ||
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unlike grack. or chez. slam at least was somewhat funny sometimes. | ||
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On January 11 2017 02:48 beentheredonethat wrote: How are you pissed at me for not playing the game? I contributed way more than others (see tictock) although being continuesly scumread. I managed to fucking get two checks off, confirm a townie and nail one scum. That's not playing the game for you or what? This: On January 05 2017 20:07 beentheredonethat wrote: Also im off to spending my time in a better way. I dont care about this game anymore. On January 05 2017 20:13 beentheredonethat wrote: Ah well bye. into being gone for like 2 1/2 days. Didnt think you would come back TBH | ||
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Though. Apparently I am an even greater shithead and have no right to such claims. sry. | ||
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but my reads are either bad or i waffle off of scum. and also it appears that i am prone to bombing (hoho) games when i get too invested, the game is hard and i have decisions/actions to make. is a shame really. had another great idea though. can like 3 ppl scum read me for a bit and then flip the read to town again later when i am back? might help me. | ||
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if scum has an ability tjat can change the colour of flips we probably loose 100% regardless of anything. :D thoigh that would be insane on top of what super had, so i hope that isnt zhe case. | ||
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On January 11 2017 03:36 beentheredonethat wrote: it's just really weird that you predicted the nuke on Chez being fake and now you're implying that the check might be false. if GB's check is false then your check doesn't hold anymore, too. just saying. is that scumread enough for now? Not really for me to judge. =D Another great random idea: what if chez is recruiter after all, but cant recruit directly? | ||
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or a 4th only reading? | ||
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On January 11 2017 04:37 LightningStrike wrote: Welcome not normal games I guess lol. TBH I rate this game to be more wifomy than Palmars Purge or PYP. THough actually... the qt snippets in palmars purge were from hell too | ||
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To give away items I will need to survive until EoN. bloody brilliant. =D | ||
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On January 11 2017 04:43 disformation wrote: So... to change my will I need to survive until EoN. To give away items I will need to survive until EoN. bloody brilliant. =D | ||
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On December 28 2016 10:58 Chezinu wrote: Pst. Rumors say radioactivity causes the glow.... You have any nukes?!?!? MAY THE HOSTS GRANT US NUKES!!! LET THE SEEDS GROW!!! Maybe he hosts nuked him to grant him nuclear powers? The seed was glowing... maybe chez and gb are a team of nuclear power? On January 07 2017 10:32 Chezinu wrote: Praise disformation! Great are you, sower, whom sows the seed to give blossom to the true colors below their feet! Praise disformation! His patience for seed is great, which enables the gives to pass the seed! Praise disformation! He survives as MVP! How can a player be more valuable than him! Not even the mafia dare to attack! Praise disformation! He colors the images of nukes and commands them to strike as fast as lighting! Praise disformation! He shall lead this town to victor with the House of Brown by his side, whom tracks and confirms the works of the citizens! was that tmi? Fun stuff aside. Chez filter gives away nothing. So we are kinda left with the wifom of his role. | ||
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On December 29 2016 06:31 GlowingBear wrote: GRACK IS NOT THE LYNCH TODAY HE WON'T BE THE LYNCH TODAY. I REFUSE TO LET THAT HAPPEN He has one of the biggest filter atm and he has been here commenting stuff. My suggestion is that we lynch Time Traveler/disformation Huh. | ||
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On January 04 2017 01:26 LightningStrike wrote: Also why are people trying to lynch Slam instead of me or Grack when you guys said it time to settle me vs Grack? Prolly stupid but I like this post. | ||
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Also GB already had a weird check involving LS D2. | ||
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On December 29 2016 05:39 GlowingBear wrote: I also have a feeling that both wagons are town. Because the lynch is going on and there is no bigger force trying to get to one or another, or to kill another target of both were Mafia. I know this is WIFOM but the feeling is very strong. And Disformation, I think it's pretty bad your preferred lynch choices are the both leading wagons and that you'd vote either one. And you're voting the null guy instead of your scumlean. You're the lynch for the day. ##Vote:disformation good post for example. =D BUT i still find it really strange that he posts: On December 29 2016 08:01 GlowingBear wrote: I'm sheeping grack. I'm going to drink now and won't be able to pay much attention to the game And then votes Koshi BEFORE grack. I feel like I have beaten the D2 horse to death. After that its only bleh mechanics talk that lead nowhere and a novote D3. | ||
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On December 29 2016 08:31 Tictock wrote: Ok I think I am back to wanting to lynch Dis and maybe Traveler. I partially started to push BtDt just to see who jumped aboard and both of them did so without a second thought. I'm not sure about LS, he could be scum, but I think he gets credit for pointing out a BtDt lynch gives next to no info. I'm waffling a bit ATM deciding who I most want to lynch, kinda wanting to just go back to Dis. Do I like TT baiting ppl into voting? I think I do. On December 29 2016 08:59 Tictock wrote: If Koshi flips Town you are getting scrutinized to all hell tomorrow. This ofc didnt happen cause house of brown (thanks based hosts). Kinda find it strange that TT picks up the scum read he made as fake scum on D2 (the one on btdt). hm: On January 05 2017 08:54 Tictock wrote: Voting Traveler kus I have a harder time reading him. had both in his lynch pool. but would he be voting his mate in the first place, with the super easy exo wagon around? prolly not I guess. On January 05 2017 23:35 Tictock wrote: Actually a quick word about my thoughts on N1 since Darth spilled the beans about our QT/almost scum team. As I said before I don't think the Hosts are outright lying to us. I feel like they made a snap call about putting Darth, Grack, and Me together kus of our posting D1. They called us a Scum team because that's how I framed our buddy group at one point. I suspect that during the break they realized that was a bit too much to leave us as a 2nd scum team with KP in a 13 player game and so changed the rules on us. So I am quite certain that the Original mafia team chose to kill Super and that it was not KP from the house of Brown. I also believe this means the chances of one of us being mafia is pretty low. I think if there was mafia within the House they would have wanted 2 townies to die and not let potential KP stack. Finally, while I am not 100% on Darth I do pretty strongly think he is Town still and that Super was killed to implicate him as well as remove another potentially strong Town player (Koshi being the other one). I also think this means one of the House is likely to die tonight. Ok I lied about this being a quick word. This is one I really liked, since it makes a lot of sense and shows thinking about the game. only problem is that he kinda paints himself town with that in the process. On January 05 2017 23:51 Tictock wrote: BtDt/LS/Slam seems very possible to me right now. where did tt2 go? On January 07 2017 12:04 Tictock wrote: Did you forget about the Bill last night that said all KP abilities were being changed to tracks instead? I'm pretty sure it said that, I'm pretty sure I quoted and asked about it at one point. Huh. He was the one to come up with that BS. Well he goes back to tt2 after the poll and lynches him. so good point for him. =D He also basically had the same reactions after reading TT2's filter I had. Don't think TT is scum. | ||
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regardless of your alignment I am cool with you. I am just too exhausted by treating this game as my first job, not getting enough sleep and doing my real job as a second job. | ||
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On December 29 2016 08:48 beentheredonethat wrote: No. 1. I don't want to lynch you as I have voted Koshi over you 2. I think you're new and that is why you're not really pushing anyone 3. I am really interested in your scum reads as one one hand, you said you don't know who to lynch, on the other hand you said something like "there are way better lynches than ExO_" Huh. On January 04 2017 04:08 beentheredonethat wrote: Time Traveler - lol. Why is he asking that when only shortly before, this happened: + Show Spoiler [this] + On December 27 2016 10:28 Time Traveler wrote: I see. I wonder if I could get punished for not being 100% aware of the Mechanics ![]() That's like the try-hardest (most try-hard?) dumbtell if I've ever seen a dumbtell. I don't think I'm buying this "I'm so new" shit. Also, I'm still waiting for the follow-up on my question regarding Because I don't know the better options he's talking about. BUT apparently, I am one: Or, not: There's nothing in Time Traveler's filter that contributes to the game. Like, really nothing. No reads, no follow-ups on any questions, he's not deducing anything from whatever he's asking, he just appears to be there every now and then - full stop, that's it. Maybe I ate the whole "He's new" thing from ExO EoD1 too early. yeah btdt also had a pretty strong push on TT2 eod2. and lynched him D3. yeah sry, getting sloppy/tired on these filters but the tt2 interactions are good enough for him to be town. also like cop. if gb is red he is conf. anyways. | ||
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would have liked for him to have voted tt2 D3. well. that one video he posted was kinda fun? the ships one? also made me smile once. yeah. awesome read. no clue. slightly better than chez i guess. chez only kinda is cool cause his role. I guess. lets see how the nuke turns out. =D | ||
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From least scummy to most scummy: grack < slam < chez | ||
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if gb is town you have 1 trie to get one of the two scummers in: chez, slam, grack like i really dont think btdt, you, tt are scum. if one of you three is: great job. | ||
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On December 29 2016 05:36 Grackaroni wrote: He could be mafia but I don't really want to kill him today. | ||
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just sayin. kinda liked this one: On December 29 2016 05:25 Grackaroni wrote: Fuck lists. Place your votes and sell people on your lynch. Then N1 is not useable (thanks hosts). On January 03 2017 18:03 Grackaroni wrote: Let this be a formal invitation to join the House of Brown. Here is our secret symbol: ![]() To start your initiation, you must send the image to me via paper plane. Otherwise, I won't be able to know that it is you. Intruders are dealt with most harshly. Once the first step is completed, I will consult further with the gatekeepers. Of course, there are a few strings that I must pull. Sacrifices must be made to extend such an invitation. But If this is anything like the Palmar game, I believe I can make this happen. On January 03 2017 18:04 Grackaroni wrote: This post is of course intended for the wise Chezinu. All others applicants are most unwelcome. Shouldnt the mysterious brown dude just be who sent the message to Grack / Chez? Why is he calling chez brown i that post: On January 03 2017 19:14 Grackaroni wrote: Ok this is a better explanation of your read. I spent a lot of time earlier in the day trying to lynch Koshi because he was bugging me. I think I was fairly transparent about that in my posts. Obviously I also thought there was a pretty decent chance he would be mafia. When I said lynching him was my primary goal for the day I was referencing that. For the 3rd post, I explained earlier in my analysis posts. I thought/think it was pretty concerning that people were choosing Koshi over LS. I had been trying to lynch LS by the end of the day. The wagon was started by Btdt and Chezinu, neither of which looked particularly townie. The lynch ending up being not even close. There were also quite a few people that liked Koshi earlier in the day that never spoke up to defend him. Plus Chezinu was thinking something similar during the time, and he doesn't even have to wonder about Chezinu's alignment. P.S. it's brown. ? Also: On January 04 2017 13:55 Grackaroni wrote: I read through some past LS games and I don't think his play was nearly as scummy in this game as I had thought. On January 05 2017 07:46 Grackaroni wrote: I think I would be ok with any of the following: ExO LS TimeTraveler Slam Btdt. So that's not a very good place to be. Hum? (He was also gone the most time between those two posts). His push on LS D3 makes a lot of sense as either alignment. So overall. This is a hard one. Like its not clear scum. There wont be a good case on that. There is like no post that makes me go "woah thats real bad". But there is also not really something that makes me go "woah thats real good". I can kinda see a bit of a scum agenda. Like D1 come in with crap and start working once he gets scum read. D2 hang back after getting me off and being cool with all the lynched, which also allows him to see how tt and df play the house of brown thing. Though might just be shitty timing. D3 push a ML to show he is active and drives the game etc.. Still. It is a bit of a reach. Maybe I just dont like his style this game. Maybe I am too biased because I had multiple points where I didn't like him already. But I feel I have more legit reasons to TR all the other active players (that means everyone but GB, chez, slam). So I feel like if there is an active scum, it is him. Kinda wish I had nuked him instead of me. Sry folks. | ||
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That was very retarded of me. If you want the mods to hand me a three day ban for playing against my wincon and/or bombing the game I am fine with that. If you want to avoid playing with me in the future that is also fine. I will take a break, tbh kinda have to anyways work related deadline coming up on the 03.02., and will try and fix multiple issues with my current playstyle. Would be glad if you guys/gals would give me another chance, but cant hold it against you if you won't. | ||
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On December 29 2016 21:27 disformation wrote: just realized. doesnt he basically call me 100% horrible town here and not even considers me to be scum? thats some sick tmi. ![]() On December 29 2016 21:39 disformation wrote: btdt confirmed not caring for my alignment. i kinda hope he is just scum trying to tilt/ml me. saving grace is him admitting that grack also had a horrible eod. On January 05 2017 08:24 disformation wrote: Holy fuck. I am 100% getting buddyed/pocketed by one of those two Oo and both send me a paper plane message. paranoia 3000% ![]() | ||
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On January 11 2017 10:39 Grackaroni wrote: Guys, check out this awesome contribution I've made. See how it glows? Day 1 Koshi (7) : Grackaroni (2) : Koshi, LightningStrike, LightningStrike (1) : darthfoley (1) : Superbia Superbia (1) : Alakaslam (0) : beentheredonethat (0) : Chezinu (0) : disformation (0) : ExO_ (0) : Tictock (0) : Not voting (1) : Alakaslam Day 2 ExO_ (6) : Time Traveler (3) : Alakaslam, beentheredonethat, darthfoley, Alakaslam (1) : darthfoley (0) : Grackaroni (0) : Not voting (1) : ExO_ Day 3 Time Traveler (4) : LightningStrike (3) : Grackaroni, darthfoley, beentheredonethat (1) : Time Traveler Chezinu (0) : GlowingBear (0) : Not voting (2) : Chezinu, GlowingBear Amateur. You missed colouring my D1 vote on myself. You didn't add the D4 vote and you didn't even have one obvious observation to follow this up with. | ||
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sry for spam. going to bed. I exchanged a ton of pms with the hosts talking about the setup and game etc and will post some of that stuff tomorrow if you guys are interested in that. | ||
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On January 14 2017 10:03 beentheredonethat wrote: So, disformation, sorry for hardcore tilting you D1. Koshi, sorry for basically lynching you D1. np dude. it worked didnt it? :p | ||
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On January 14 2017 10:12 beentheredonethat wrote: I was so pissed at the hosts though mid game when disformation said that he received a paper plane saying "btdt is sorry for insulting you" or whatever :D I thought that this was genuine and felt like my awesome plan had blown up. That felt super fucking genuine town for some reason though. On January 14 2017 10:13 beentheredonethat wrote: nope. we completely ignored almost all mechanics. we even failed to manipulate the uija board. ppl who were not voting got their votes reduced by 0.25 for each person voting them the next day | ||
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On January 14 2017 10:16 LightningStrike wrote: Anyways I taking a 2 month break from TL Mafia unless some of you guys actually want to play with me during my self impose hiatus for stuff I did in the game. aw come on, you didnt even nuke yourself | ||
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I assumed Chez was fake nuking himself D2 so he didnt have to play. ExO_'s ML was like 50% me and 50% ExO_. Or 50% ExO_ and 50% me and all the ppl sheeping me. He had a very stronk D1 and I just came out of a game where he pulled similar shit. Though I really thought he was scum for the post where he did his low activity/excuse thing. I was honestly thinking he would flip red until the very end. Still was kinda like a policy lynch as I absolutely hate him claiming vt over and over again like that. Probably I am a bit of an ass here. I mean at least he didnt nuke himself, though well he kinda did with his posts. Didnt even vote. Which is another thing I really don't like. For some reasons I had a bunch of problems reading Grack and DF. The house of brown thing probably played a huge part in that. That was real mean. The paper planes were very scum favored, if used right. Though town played pretty ass overall, so I won't complain too much. xD Thanks to the house of brown their N1 filters were not usable to ascertain their alignments. It also greatly affected them D2 as they were super confused. So it def. made all three harder to read. And that put a lot of shade onto like the only 3 towns playing the game (besides me). Like the idea is amazing I am not going to dispute that. It just made the game way harder for town imo. I was kinda surprised to not see any 3P claims/roles. Just was like... df was acting real strange D2 all of the sudden, but we also managed to figure him out. note that I wont any of that against you, as running such a game takes a lot of work and balance is fickle. I kinda think you guys overestimated town/underestimated scum. but tbh this town was pretty crap and that stuff is super hard to predict anways, so whatever. still i am feeling like ranting about a bunch of stuff that i observed/think might be a bit borderline. Was pretty surprised when one of you said he thought chez role would fuck scum over at some point. his role is prolly the only reason he didnt get lynched super early and in a game where town has 0 trust to each other (house of brown) you just give town kp and wathc them kill each other. or themselves. so i am 0 surprised his role was good for scum. but again. this shit is super hard to predict. general observation: i think it is has very low risk to a very high reward for fakeclaiming stuff in themed games. in palmars game iamp was able to get away with convincing town of being anti town 3P. in dota 2 Hoshi nearly rode out the game off having made up a pro town ability. This game btdt was able to convince town of being a 2 shot cop. though tbh its more that he bussed tt2 super hard. in dota 2 it was somewhat easier to determine fake claims since the abilities were kinda tied to roles and a rolecop would be able to somewhat determine if someone was lying. a pity he died n1. I don't know if Chez or BTDT role names would have helped, but for like meacha-cow or the plains dragoon it would be impossible to find out what abilities they had from the name. well. dragoons usually have a horse and a carbine, so you could argue for a vig shot. so not sure how good GB's rolecop ability was. you maybe could argue that town might to try figure that out based on balance, there were some posts about too many prot/investigatives around, but this is a bastard game, so how the fuck are we supposed to know what ideas you guys had. maybe all the investigatives are insane? which is I basically ignored those posts on the grounds of not wanting mechanics at all to figure out this game. on that note I should not have trusted the red check on GB. but I would have checked GB, too. So the check made sense and the result kinda did too. Also would have had to fight Grack over not trusting the red, while trusting my blue on LS. didnt want to do that. so that might have been my bad, not sure though. tldr: i think if i am to run a themed in the future I will probably include 1 town fav. role/mechanic that makes fake claims more risky for scum. I dont want to make it stupid/impossible, as good fake claims are good, but I think in the last 3 games it was low risk very high reward. and i was pretty cautious about the btdt claim at first, I knew this could be a super hard buddy attempt, but him throwing a fit and gtfo'ing for 2 days legit felt like super upset town to me and I wanted him around to see what his check would be. together how hard he bussed tt2, I was pretty convinced he was town at the end (D4). But yeah I should have probably pressed him more about it earlier. I was not a very good check. though with his rage at me N1, I kinda felt it might make some sense. Well he kinda outplayed me. =D If he wins this (pretty likely atm) I will probably nominate him for best scum game. I was thinking about the carousel but couldnt figure out how to use it for towns advantage. =D Problem is: I already spend 24/7 overthinking the scum hunt, where should I find time to figure that stuff out too? And tbh I am not too versed in crazy mechanics =D | ||
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On January 15 2017 05:18 Calix wrote: I am pretty happy with how the Paper Planes turned out overall. The D4 plane and BTDT's fake investigative claim were notable outcomes from that. Speaking of BTDT, I heard someone say that he should be nominated for a 2017 Award. I don't contest this because I definitely think he's improved from his other scum games. I was aware that he had a hard time posting as scum before so I decided to put him into the "leader" role with his Godfather role + his quest. I'm glad I did ![]() Eh not a fan. But i couldnt figure out how to use them at all and scum got me hard with that. so might be biased. =p | ||
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On January 15 2017 17:09 Tictock wrote: Yea I had a hard time believeing BtDt bussed. LS flipping should have tipped me off actually. Seeing some of Cake's posts Host team deserves major props for this game. I wish I had been able to put a bit more time into it. I was pretty determined to get that ring even after the fuckup. Though this distracted me from the game even more. I had actually had an inclination to vote Chez last min but working during EoD made that pretty impossible. Yeah, the story of the message was great. Huge props to the host team, the game was very well run and had some great ideas. Chez had also like 2 no votes and two pretty meh votes, but also only realized after i was bad, that chez kinda looked worse than i thought he did while alive. prolly cause all the cool items he gave me. Also can Chez be El Chezidente and Dr. Chez at the same time? | ||
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On January 16 2017 01:48 Calix wrote: Nah, most of the initial planning was done over the pause when cakepie and I were writing up a storm in the Google docs about who gets what role, what mechanics we should put in, what quests suited what person, etc. That was pretty fun although I think my idea of how hosting works has been skewed by the game. I guess people felt overwhelmed when the game restarted and you had around six different mechanics to understand. No times for mechanics, those walls and 38 pages of filter wont write themselves. Goals for next game: use brain not keyboard On January 16 2017 02:31 Alakaslam wrote: Oh and did anyone remember my hipster votes on TT2 that everyone wanted me to explain? Still want me to explain that? Oh yes yes yes please! | ||
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On January 14 2017 10:52 LightningStrike wrote: Also dis when you wake up: Why you decided to save me Day 3 by lynching Time Traveler? Ah think I missed this. I had a quest to make a wagon and have 3 ppl follow me on that. So since everyone was scumreading tt2 I was like "lets make a wagon on that guy". I think my plan was to lynch you and check into tt2/chez/slam. But you posted something near EoD that made my gut tell me you are town yet again, so I was like "YOLO LETS LYNCH TT2 AND CHECK LS!" Like you were calming down a bunch near EoD and posted some stuff that gave me real town vibes. I think it was this one: On January 08 2017 08:31 LightningStrike wrote: dis promise me you will lynch Grack after I get lynched please? And I know. I posted stuff like that as scum before. Was just. like dunno. Fak it. xD should listen to my gut more often. xD | ||
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