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On December 24 2016 23:24 Shapelog wrote: December 26th is after Christmas.... Right? Oh did the hosts break the timeline for holidays as well? Whoops didn't see you said it was going to start at the 26th. Was to tired -.- | ||
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On December 27 2016 11:31 ExO_ wrote: Right, but the koshi coming in saying he's town but going to be afk-ish reminds me of dota 2 mafia Koshi: He felt demotivated the entire time. He was able to step it up as he played on though. Compare that to his play in Liquidmania. He's loud and in your face and obnoxious as hell, and town. Demotivated afkish Koshi = Scum. Coming in and saying he's going to behave like scum makes me think he actually is scum We can't talk about ongoing games generally speaking but I agree his opening is pure shit this game especially when I had played a game that ended with Koshi as town where his opening didn't say anything about his activity if I remember correctly. | ||
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On December 27 2016 12:15 Grackaroni wrote: Any reason for choosing Koshi over Slam? I honestly have a hard time reading slam myself regardless of his alignment. Speaking of which I need to check a old game about how Geript used to read him. Also Koshi never gave an excuse for low activity as town right at the start. | ||
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On December 27 2016 12:17 Grackaroni wrote: I get that it's unusual for Koshi to fuck off, but he usually tries to make his scum play match his town play. *yawn* Everyone tries to make their scum game like their town game. | ||
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On December 27 2016 12:20 ExO_ wrote: I'm made uncomfortable with you liking me. Last game you liked me and were scum, though the circumstances there were very different. A. We shouldn't be talking about games that are currently in progress. B. I know you might be a little bit unconfortable about due to that but I not scum game. | ||
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On December 27 2016 14:14 Grackaroni wrote: Why do you find it strange? Quite a few people have said the same regarding Koshi. You were the first really to defend him and tried to divert our attention else where on a guy who is always question mark for most people. | ||
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On December 27 2016 23:49 GlowingBear wrote: I bet 10 bucks you won't do it this way You say this every game you play lol He hasn't done it as town though? | ||
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On December 28 2016 00:03 GlowingBear wrote: Not true, he did countless times. Can't remember which games tho Also HI LS! Really because I don't recall any recent games he done that. | ||
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On December 28 2016 00:38 GlowingBear wrote: I remember playing game where he was town saying that. I think his ipening is NAI How long ago were those games? | ||
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On December 28 2016 03:04 Koshi wrote: I actually did say the same thing a lot at the start of the game but it is more than 8 months ago. But for the first time I think I feel very confident also doing it. analysis will come a lot later. Not recent enough then. | ||
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On December 28 2016 04:46 Grackaroni wrote: I don't understand how Koshi is town reading LS. He came back recently and he was still focused entirely on Koshi's first post. He's probably the most likely mafia at this point. You be suprised how hard I can tunnel as town. | ||
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On December 28 2016 02:54 darthfoley wrote: Ticktock Grackaroni Timetraveler GB Null Chez Koshi ExO Superbia Alakaslam LS No particular order, something like that atm What is your reasoning for scumreading me? Are you still paranoid about losing to me? | ||
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On December 28 2016 04:04 Tictock wrote: I think he and Grack discussed it and correctly concluded that the second line in my post was in reference to Darth early townread on Grack. I don't have a ton of time till later tonight so just gunna be doing some catching up and lite posts till then. I like GB he seems to be having similar thoughts as I did reading through the game. Koshi's return and semi list post feels pretty towny. Traveler also feels ok if a little, uh, formal? I guess. It's a bit early to tell on Super but the feels are good. Not sure what to make of Dis at all just yet, he feels like is is not invested in the game or something. Not sure if this is AI or related to him being in the other game. I need to reread Exo. I like his activity and his responses to pressure, but his reads feel pretty forced to me. Slam and LS have made little impact imo, actually a bit less sure on LS. Feels weird for LS to jump on board the Koshi vote so fast. Both because Koshi has def said he wants to post less as Town before and kus his view of the game feels oddly focused (kinda same on Exo) for this stage of the game. So I suppose I'm at Exo/Dis/LS right now. What you mean it feels weird? I know I wasn't the first one to attack koshi on his opening nor the last person to do so. | ||
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On December 28 2016 03:45 disformation wrote: I like GB. I like Koshi liking GB. I dislike Koshi liking ExO_ but tbh Im just policy voting ExO_ :D Pretty terrible policy vote tbh. I think he's more likely town than scum at this point and we shouldn't lynch him. | ||
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@Darth thoughts on Koshi? | ||
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On December 28 2016 10:16 GlowingBear wrote: Hi guys! Spent all day on the beach and I was drinking until now. Any questions? Are we kynching Exo already? No I don't think we lynching ExO I honestly don't think he's scum this game. If he's scum I will be able find out by Day 3 most likely. | ||
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On December 28 2016 10:41 darthfoley wrote: We're generally seeing the game similarly, outside of you and grack. I've never played against scum!koshi though, so I'm not really sure what to expect. Either way I don't see him being a D1 lynch unless he uber scum slips somehow I had but it was a very long time ago where he got vig shot N1 in Horns of Africa. | ||
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On December 28 2016 10:45 LightningStrike wrote: I had but it was a very long time ago where he got vig shot N1 in Horns of Africa. On a side note fair enough on that was hoping to see you flesh your thoughts out more. | ||
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On December 28 2016 10:50 Grackaroni wrote: LS, what is your read on Koshi? Scumlean still his big post was okay really lacking stuff from him sucks. | ||
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On December 28 2016 10:55 Chezinu wrote: Hey there little teddy! Oh May! What is it that makes you glow so much? He keeps eating radioactive material hence why he glows. | ||
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On December 28 2016 11:10 darthfoley wrote: So Koshi is bussing his partner D1, being the first person to seriously discuss Grack = mafia? Or are you saying they're on different teams? idk we don't know if there is multiple teams or not. Anyways I do think there is a mafia between them at least. | ||
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On December 29 2016 01:02 ExO_ wrote: I feel like there are a lot of people to seriously consider, but we have 8 hours left and the votes are all over the place. I think I'd prefer chez/slam if we're just gonna lynch a trolly person. I could see grack being scum, but I could also see Koshi very easily being scum here. His post looks good, but look at how he's playing this game. He's not posting with fire or over the top bravado. He's saying good shit, but he's not playing with that huge umpf that he plays with as town. He's antagonizing nobody. This still doesn't look like town Koshi to me, it reminds me so much of dota 2 mafia. Still I don't wanna get tunneled all in on this theory 100% yet. I think we should come together as town and get rid of either slam or chezinu for now. ##Unvote ##Vote: Alakaslam That is like playing darts and hope you hit a bulleyes. I think we should lynch into Grack or Koshi atm. | ||
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On December 29 2016 01:08 ExO_ wrote: On the contrary, it's making a safer play. Going with grack or Koshi is closer to your darts scenario. However you think Grack or Koshi? Make a case, and tell me which you'd prefer I starting to think it's more likely Grack unless what you said about Koshi in Dota 2 is correct. This is the case on Grack by Koshi: On December 28 2016 11:00 Koshi wrote: ##vote Grackaroni in 4 pages: I have no clue who he thinks is mafia. I have not seen him push the game forward. (aka brought new interesting topics to discuss with people) I have not seen him try to progress his own reads by asking somebody a question that would further his read on them. He scumreads LS, makes 2 posts on why he is mafia, and then doesn't mention him in the next 20 posts he makes. He townreads ExO when it is safe to do so, and then pushes that read onto people like he discovered that read. While he had nothing to say about ExO the entire game (before he hard townread him). Probably mafia. Will monitor if he picks up his play. This was my addon to his case on grack: On December 28 2016 11:04 LightningStrike wrote: I too think Grack is potential mafia too due to how when I was hard pushing you Koshi earlier he kept trying to steer it away to Slam who we both know is harder to read based on pure pushing. I think it's better to lynch Grack since Slam and Chez are harder to read people until you let them just do their own thing especially Slam. ##Unvote ##Vote: Grackaroni | ||
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On December 29 2016 01:13 disformation wrote: @LS why am I voting you? :D You have no reason to vote me I did actually look in your filter because I did see you vote me. That or you just can't read me for shit. Unledss we got Damdred here. | ||
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On December 29 2016 01:15 LightningStrike wrote: You have no reason to vote me I did actually look in your filter because I did see you vote me. That or you just can't read me for shit. Unless we got Damdred here. | ||
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On December 29 2016 03:23 ExO_ wrote: Because I'm not convinced enough that he's scum yet. The biggest thing I found scummy about him was his buddying with TT, and his post count that doesn't really scum hunt or drive town forward in any way. But I don't think I'm okay lynching him today when he's at least talking a decent amount. The fact that Koshi wants to lynch him also makes me think me want to hold off on a grack lynch. You just admitted he didn't do scum hunting don't you think very scum indicative? | ||
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On December 29 2016 04:14 ExO_ wrote: It's like you didn't read my post. I literally just expained why I'm not comfortable with grack as the lynch today. Do you see something that I'm missing? I'd like to hear it if so I did but I was trying to see if you thought that portion is scummy in your opinion. | ||
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On December 29 2016 03:42 disformation wrote: Well it is either grack or one of the three ??? Just sheep me and Koshi I had quoted the case on Grack and my added thoughts to it in my filter. | ||
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On December 29 2016 04:25 Tictock wrote: Does this mean that if Grack flips green you think Koshi is mafia? Very likely. | ||
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On December 29 2016 04:34 Tictock wrote: So you don't actually know about Koshi and just want to sheep him to see if he has good reads then call him mafia if not. Kus Town!Koshi is never wrong. No I just think is more likely to be scum than Koshi. | ||
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On December 29 2016 06:04 Tictock wrote: Decided to take a walk kus I don't feel like giving up my whole day off for this game. @LS While I agree that between Koshi and Grack, Grack looks more likely to be scum, I don't like how you are pushing that there MUST be mafia in Grack/Koshi. Also all I have really seen from you this game is sheeping Exo on Koshi and now sheeping Koshi on Grack. Becuase something in the tone between them plus how they interacted with each other don't seem like TvT but more like TvS. On December 29 2016 06:31 GlowingBear wrote: GRACK IS NOT THE LYNCH TODAY HE WON'T BE THE LYNCH TODAY. I REFUSE TO LET THAT HAPPEN He has one of the biggest filter atm and he has been here commenting stuff. My suggestion is that we lynch Time Traveler/disformation No we lynching Grack Time Traveler and dis look better than him in my opinion. On December 29 2016 06:38 beentheredonethat wrote: oh shit forgot about this game, have my gf here :< will catch up tomorrow. voting tictock because I have to vote This post from btdt is pretty bad and idk why he voting Tictock atm. | ||
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On December 29 2016 07:31 Grackaroni wrote: Why not? Any lynch should be informative today. btdt only post was the one I quoted so we wont have anything to really go on except maybe people's reasoning but even then it's meh in my opinion. | ||
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On December 29 2016 07:31 Tictock wrote: So then who DO you want to lynch? You just said you are not feeling Grack anymore. No I lynching Grack wtf where you got that from -.- | ||
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On December 29 2016 07:32 disformation wrote: what do you think of the more recent grack posts. like when he was filtering ppl and stuff Will read them now and post what I think on mobile because I gtg from home in about 2 minutes. | ||
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On December 29 2016 07:34 Tictock wrote: Oh wow Ninja vote from Traveler. Humm... I just checked and confirmed it is a ninja vote. Very weird from him. | ||
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On December 29 2016 07:44 GlowingBear wrote: Ok who between chez and slam? I say chez I rather wait on them. If they don't vote they might get replaced. | ||
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On December 29 2016 07:46 disformation wrote: I think there was this thing where i was trying to say that i think that LS case on you is more likely to come from town ls and you though I was agreeing with his case. I like the credit and all but it was Koshi's case with a add on from me. | ||
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On December 29 2016 07:49 GlowingBear wrote: Well I'm voting Chez. I'm not lynching an AFK nor a toenie He's afk atm? | ||
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On December 29 2016 07:52 ExO_ wrote: K I'm home for the last hour. BTDT is completely afk right, can somebody explain why we're lynching him? I'd rather lynch slam/chez and see if btdt can get replaced Btdt did 1 post and it was to vote Tictock and being afk. | ||
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On December 29 2016 08:08 darthfoley wrote: Yet you haven't tunneled anyone. You also added onto Koshi's case on Grack with a bad point onto a case that was already bad. Outside of that, I don't really know what you've done to push anyone or to push the game forward. I might be tunneled atm but I been pushing grack all day was pushing Koshi yesterday. | ||
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On December 29 2016 08:11 darthfoley wrote: Why would scum!Grack defend town!Koshi early d1? Easy town credit especially that early. | ||
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On December 29 2016 09:12 Shapelog wrote: Night 1 Koshi,Noble of Laz, certified and ready to vote (vt)!, has been lynched! + Show Spoiler [Final VC] + On December 29 2016 09:03 cakepie wrote: Final Vote Count Koshi (7) : Grackaroni (2) : Koshi, LightningStrike, LightningStrike (1) : darthfoley (1) : Superbia Superbia (1) : Alakaslam (0) : beentheredonethat (0) : Chezinu (0) : disformation (0) : ExO_ (0) : Tictock (0) : Not voting (1) : Alakaslam Alakaslam has received a warning for not voting The Gods Deem a Change in Play After the end of each Day and night phase, there will be a 1 hour resolution period. You are not allowed to talk in the thread during this time. FEAST Everyone has been invited to a feast! Listed below are the items up for grabs. To receive yours, PM the account “Irresistible Object” with the item you want. You are encouraged to submit backup options in order of preference as this is first-come-first-served! You may only successfully take one item. Items Armour Assorted Hardware Buckler Boots Crossbow Medicine Bottle “P” Medicine Bottle “S” Medicine Bottle “X” Net Small Spear Sleepingbag Thermal Goggles Walkie-Talkie Night 1 has begun! The phase will end in ! Please submit any night actions for this phase to the shared Hosting account, “Irresistible Object”, to be counted for! We will be taking a break for newyears. The game will pause at the end of the night phase () due to timezones. You may not post during this time. Game will resume on Sunday, Jan 03 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) With day post 2 being posted at that time You mean Monday the 2nd because Saturday is Near Years Eve. | ||
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On December 29 2016 13:42 LightningStrike wrote: You mean Monday the 2nd? Because Saturday is Near Years Eve. | ||
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On December 29 2016 14:01 Alakaslam wrote: Whatever I will read ayy lmao Care to give thoughts once you are caught up? | ||
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Ya because you are the time traveler after all. But serious though thoughts on df up to this point? | ||
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On December 29 2016 23:36 GlowingBear wrote: Are we really calling Grack mafia because Koshi flipped town? It's more than that. Koshi made a case on him plus my add on also dis did add a good point his progression on the lynching of Koshi 1 hour before EoD was very odd considering I was his biggest scumread yet he wasn't pushing me that hard. In addition he said he would switch to Koshi but doesn't do it till much later than he said he would switch. | ||
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On December 30 2016 00:19 GlowingBear wrote: I must say I can moo someone tonight. One of the hosts sent me a PM saying I could moo anyone. I have no idea what it does. I'll moo you, LS. ##Moo: LS ................. | ||
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On December 30 2016 02:33 darthfoley wrote: Explain to me how you go from this post, to your next post saying this. Then finally this I understand you left before btdt went on his EoD desperate tirade thing, but how do you go from saying his post is "pretty bad," implying scum then turn around and say his lynch would be terrible. While it's true that his lynch may not have given us the "most" information, how could lynching someone who's very scummy be terrible? Especially when the guy you're sheeping is the one on the chopping block. You post this before you go So in that post you say you're okay with Koshi being the lynch after you sheep him the whole day? You're okay with him being the lynch over someone you thought was pretty scummy? Also you said that you would have a bunch of info regardless of Koshi's flip. Let's hear it His in that in that last post was grack. Yes i wasn't around EoD and I should of warned on that. Also in case I wasn't clear df should be up for lynch after grack. The reason is that his EoD blaming me about not lynching btdt you guys could of still lynched him instead of Koshi. | ||
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On December 30 2016 06:58 disformation wrote: No LS didnt disappear when he was under pressure. he just went afk like 2h before deadline, after saying the main wagon is town cause meta and trying a little bit to get ppl to vote with koshi and him on another guy who turned out to be town. Ya he just saying pure shit. Do I got your sword next day phase, | ||
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On December 30 2016 08:25 Tictock wrote: I'm still unsure of who to Invite for my sleep over. I may just roll a couple die and see who I get. Just invite me because I got nothing to hide. | ||
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On January 03 2017 09:28 darthfoley wrote: Does anyone have any cool information about wtf is going on? Nope other than lynching Grack and if not you. | ||
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On January 03 2017 09:41 darthfoley wrote: Well that's simply unacceptable. I won't allow it! You'd be smart to stay away from me. Especially considering you're quite scummy. Don't worry I lynching Grack before you. | ||
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On January 03 2017 09:41 Time Traveler wrote: Pointless. I'm pretty sure everyone got a role so we are all blue now. Well I didn't turn blue. | ||
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On January 03 2017 09:43 darthfoley wrote: Seriously though, considering the level of fuckery in this game, if there are relevant pieces of information floating about, pray not be shy! pretty we wont have any info until Day 3 unless we ended up getting a cop role and they did a check. | ||
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On January 03 2017 09:47 disformation wrote: cant sleep. actually superbia got dat super hipster scumread on darth. you remember? the one nobody got? shame he wont be around to try and explain again. flipping my town lean on df to a SR. to see if scum shoots me n2 for that. =D still think ls vs grack should be resolved first. I will double check his filter if he did scumread df before his death. | ||
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On January 03 2017 09:55 darthfoley wrote: Thanks for the investigative journalism! Superbia's death is quite intriguing for many reasons. I wonder why mafia felt the need to off him Well I already disliked your EoD reaction and how you blamed me for not lynching BTDT when you guys still could of lynched him. | ||
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On January 03 2017 23:59 darthfoley wrote: No idea why you have GB as your most town. All the dude has done is push the idea that ExO is mafia, which is unclear, and complain about lynching Koshi and how dumb it was even after he voted on it. Also you giving LS town points for those Superbia related posts is really freaking lazy. I also don't know how you give this guy town points for his most recent posts, then put him as your MOST scummy. Anyone who claimed to pay attention to the game should know that Superbia had been on me pretty hard. LS saying that he'll "check" to make sure you're "telling the truth" either means he wasn't paying attention to the game or he's pretending to be involved. Also x 2 pointing out that LS is still very scummy and is not interacting with anyone besides to say his lynch order is Grack then me. Disformation is going to look very bad if LS flips scum imo I honestly never paid attention to Superbia since he wasn't really around Day 1 outside of the NAI stuff I talked about. Anyways to make it easier for you guys I did lie about being VT I just turned into a blue role that isn't exactly great unless you guys need more info who got what item. | ||
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On January 04 2017 00:28 darthfoley wrote: Well that blue role should be easy to prove! Well only once per night I can check someone and see what item they got if they got any but don't know what the item does. Just turned into that this Day Phase. | ||
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On January 04 2017 01:13 darthfoley wrote: You haven't seen a horribly unfriendly tone until you walk into a bar with HolyFlare, Calix and NeverUnlucky You forgot old Koshi too at times ![]() | ||
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I did but I didn't see a case on him and I kinda want to see how he will play if given time. | ||
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On January 04 2017 04:02 disformation wrote: ExO_ this game: scum!ExO_ dota 2 game: and much more. @LS can I get your stamp of Meta approval this time? *Stamps* Kinda forgot about that since I was using a meta defense on ExO my last scum game and did actually looked a bit in ExO's past games. He haven't really done much other than a push I think on Tictock if I remember correctly this game but even then his push doesn't feel the same way he did his stuff last game.. | ||
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On January 04 2017 07:19 disformation wrote: Oh ppl actually are posting. Wait. Was that dark tournament? I think I can remember that. ppl thought LS kinda modconfirmed himself town by posting right after deadline while being a lynch wagon and I couldnt get him ML because of that, despite him having like 0 reads. I was scum that game. If that is the dark tournament game. *sigh* I guess my d1 read on him was pretty ass. -.- Ugh that was my last scum game aka the one we just played. But it's true I pretty much unlynchable past Day 2 as town only been mislynched once past Day 2 as town but that was it. | ||
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On January 04 2017 07:23 disformation wrote: Lynch one, vig the other? =D I would of vigged Grack if I had a bolt for my crossbow. Tried to breadcrumb a vig shot onto Grack to see if anyone would of noticed: [QUOTE]On December 30 2016 05:53 LightningStrike wrote: Very few things to do. Idk why it happens. Getting involved when IRL gets in the way sucks. So let this be my final ground. However if I live follow my lead. Orange under me. To defeat Grack.[/QUOTE] But no one noticed it's as if no one even was reading any of my posts. | ||
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On January 04 2017 07:23 disformation wrote: Lynch one, vig the other? =D I would of vigged Grack if I had a bolt for my crossbow. Tried to breadcrumb a vig shot onto Grack to see if anyone would of noticed: On December 30 2016 05:53 LightningStrike wrote: Very few things to do. Idk why it happens. Getting involved when IRL gets in the way sucks. So let this be my final ground. However if I live follow my lead. Orange under me. To defeat Grack. | ||
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On January 04 2017 09:25 darthfoley wrote: i'm here, just waiting on the paper planes to arrive I thought I was the only who haven't gotten one at this point. | ||
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On January 05 2017 00:01 disformation wrote: ah I can add something to the point that btdt apparently doesnt think i am an option today. the second message I got was btdt basically telling me he is sorry for N1 and is now cool with me. also heavily implying a TR on me. No idea why he didn't post that in thread and it might be a buddying attempt, but it sounded rather genuine to me. And while we are at it: LS sent me a message asking for assistance in lynching his scumreads, as he thinks they wont get lynched without my help. Again: might be a buddying attempt, but I think it sounded genuine and is more likely to come from town. I didn't want to reveal it until you got it ![]() ##Unvote ##Vote: darthfoley | ||
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Didn't like your EoD 1 before even reading Superbia's filter, Superbia being killed suspecting you throughout Day 1, and honestly you been acting weird for your standard. As town I know you are much more serious and weren't that sarcastic at all espcally the last few games we played together. Here df's latest games with me: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/515094-a-mini-with-funny-gifs?user=darthfoley http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503886-who-wants-to-be-a-millionaire-cell-mini-mafia?user=darthfoley http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503437-star-wars-the-mafia-awaken?user=darthfoley In each of those games even in auto lynching (Star Wars) he trying his hardest try to figure things out wasn't trolly in tone period which is likely a scum indicator for you darthfoley. | ||
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On January 05 2017 00:23 disformation wrote: Wow. I didnt even remember you guys being in star wars mafia awakens. =D that game was good. I replaced Onegu in that game which is probably why you forgot I was in it. | ||
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On January 05 2017 00:28 disformation wrote: Sooo... on a completely unrelated note... LS. On a scale of one to ten, how happy do you feel this game, when 1 is very unhappy and 10 is very happy? =D 5 since we got a majority on one of my scumreads. | ||
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On January 05 2017 00:30 LightningStrike wrote: 5 since we got a majority on one of my scumreads. Mainly because it not my biggest scumread but had to deal with people thinking I'm scum too. | ||
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On January 05 2017 00:26 darthfoley wrote: Yea i've been a bit trolly, but in a bastard game like this where everyone has little bits of information that could be useful, it's fun to mess around a bit. Even with my trolling i've still contributed more to the game than anyone except disformation probably. Cell game was also themed and the mechanics were different so it's NAI imo. Even in Cell you were more serious and yes I know it was themed but you weren't as trolly there as here which is a meta point against you. -1 vs the meta king. | ||
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On January 05 2017 00:32 disformation wrote: 5 ofc is somewhat tricky. on one hand is he somewhat happy, but ppl are calling him scum. on the other hand he is not really happy and has claimed. That was made before Cell happened. I sure it would look different now than back then. | ||
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On January 05 2017 00:36 darthfoley wrote: I was trolly beginning of D2 because I acquired information and felt good about it and no one was here If actually had information why didn't you share it with the thread even if no one is around? | ||
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Why not share it now though because clearly me and disformation are here. | ||
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On January 05 2017 00:44 disformation wrote: Dunno I feel like I have gotten worse. xD How the fuck do you play D1's? xD sry, was half joking. I dunno man. I'd still like a ExO_ lynch just cause he refused to play, but still has time to post the VT one liners. @LS what does your meta on ExO_ say? Idk need to recheck his scum game on that portion. | ||
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On January 05 2017 00:46 LightningStrike wrote: Idk need to recheck his scum game on that portion. potntenally scum? He constantly gave a excuse of playing Civ 5/ Civ 6 throughout his last scum game but here he doesn't say what he been doing. | ||
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On January 05 2017 00:51 darthfoley wrote: I'm going to share it later today, don't worry Why not now? >.< | ||
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On January 05 2017 01:04 disformation wrote: If you are scum I am unistalling this game. =D deal. | ||
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On January 05 2017 02:34 darthfoley wrote: i'm not claiming vigi! i'm claiming mafia post baby seals boyo. | ||
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On January 05 2017 02:47 darthfoley wrote: A Poor Man's Confession At the end of D1, I was PM'd to inform me that I was now a mafia roleblocker. My teammates were Ticktock and Grackaroni. Grack was the Godfather, TT was goon. This QT is called the House of Brown. We surmised that Superbia would be a good kill especially if he had a blue role, wouldn't really link back to me, and I was going to claim vigi misshot. I roleblocked Superbia in case he shot/checked me and got saved. Ticktock used his sleeping bag (according to him, one time jailkeep) on Chez so disformation wouldn't get the seed that would probably let him check Grack. Grack claims to have gotten medicine X. He also claims this medicine makes him show up as mafia, but that he hasn't drank it. Not sure if I believe him regarding the utility of his medicine. So we thought this was peachy keen. I was going to claim "vigi shooting" Superbia, while the other mafia team was going to shoot town. This would allow both the other mafia team, and the town to be under the assumption that there was still only one mafia team in the game. However, after the D2 post, we were notified that we had no mafia powers: KP, GF, RB. We weren't even a mafia team. We were just three dudes put in a QT. So, as it stands, I am in a QT that is still being somewhat used with Grack and TT. According to the hosts, our alignments are what we started with, plus the QT, plus "whatever we may have received" D2. So either there were two teams of three that individually chose Superbia kill, or Grack/TT are mafia and knew of our plan, notified the other mafia team, etc. This is partially why I have been trolly and confused. I don't know in which scenario Superbia died. So yea, I wanted to kill Superbia under the assumption that I was mafia. However i'm not mafia. I cannot confirm anything else regarding Grack and TT's alignments God my Night 1 was amazing then if you not lying about Grack and TT because I nailed you and Grack Night 1. | ||
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On January 05 2017 03:09 beentheredonethat wrote: What the actual fuck darth I know right. Just follow my plan and we will win. | ||
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On January 05 2017 03:10 disformation wrote: thats so fucked up im believing you. We should still lynch him to verify the information from him. | ||
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On January 05 2017 03:32 disformation wrote: it really weirds me out none of them wanted to come out with that info and all are happy tring each other... and 2/3 kinda dropped out of existance today. Ya it is a bit strange. Okay you guys up for lynching Grack then in case DF is town because I think Grack is higher likely scum than df is atm. | ||
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On January 05 2017 03:40 darthfoley wrote: Wouldn't that be just great if the Hosts were making the NKs If the hosts were making the night kills then history would suggest that the hosts would of killed me since Shapelog seems to like killing me when he's scum lol. | ||
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On January 05 2017 03:56 disformation wrote: scum tried to kill chez, failed and is now nuking him? This might be actually make sense but who sent the nuke you know? | ||
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On January 05 2017 04:45 disformation wrote: WHY DIDNT YOU MENTION THE QT WITH GRACK AND DARTH ^ | ||
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Do I lynch ExO who starting to play like his scum meta? | ||
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I guess lynching ExO will be for the best for now. | ||
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On January 05 2017 07:16 Grackaroni wrote: Why would you vote for the guy that DF and I are lynching, LS? I starting to townread df a little bit more now and I did some looking into ExO's last scum game and it looks more like his scum game than his town game. | ||
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On January 05 2017 07:53 GlowingBear wrote: He's not. But the sudden change of opinion truly makes me pause. Anyone thinks grack is Mafia? What do you think, disfo? I do think grack is mafia. | ||
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ExO because he playing more of his scum meta than town meta. | ||
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Nope I blue check my filter for my claim. | ||
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On January 05 2017 08:18 GlowingBear wrote: But I'm a town rolecop and I xhexked you and it said you are VT. Why are you lying? I just turned blue this day phase. | ||
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On January 05 2017 08:30 GlowingBear wrote: But maybe that's how the mechanics work, I don't know. It makes sense but it's really unfair :/ Well then check me again tonight to prove that I am blue. | ||
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Anyways I voting for disformation for the ouija broad stuff for now. | ||
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On January 06 2017 10:32 darthfoley wrote: Did I get an item in the last batch? Yea I did. Very interested to see who btdt checked this time through It said no items for you O.o | ||
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On January 06 2017 10:34 darthfoley wrote: Well then you're the insane version of whatever your role is. I definitely got one of the items and I definitely used it You using it might explain my result. | ||
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On January 06 2017 11:50 Grackaroni wrote: I think that it's time that we lynch LightningStrike. I think it's plausible that he got an investigative role but that doesn't preclude him from being scum. He's supposed to be "unlynchable as town" after day 2 and I don't think there's a single person with a town read on him currently. I think that I'm currently his only scum read and he hasn't provided a single reason for scum reading me in thread since his reasoning that he posted at the start of day 1 that said I was trying to deflect attention off of Koshi onto Slam. Also he spent most of day 2 saying he wanted to lynch me and if not me DF. Later he sheeped some reasoning for lynching ExO when the wagon was, at the time, being lead by both me and DF. Overall he seems to have a lot of trouble coming up with his own reads. He doesn't seem to spend any time reevaluating his reads. I'm not getting town vibes. I think LS should be the lynch. ##Vote: LS I don't really care about hwo I voting with to be honest as town I shown this is in multiple games hell check the database for all my games if you have to to see if I do vote with my scumreads at times. I didn't have trouble coming up with my own reads it just sometimes I want to see how others are reading the same person or if I think a peice of meta is right. Anyways we should lynch GlowingBear because GlowingBear claimed Role Cop and said I wasn't blue when I am blue and even today I gave my result and traditionally role cop is a scum role too. Added to the fact that he came in very late EoD when the lynch was coming down. ##Vote: GlowingBear | ||
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1. GlowingBear 2. Grack Need to find a 3rd target on that. | ||
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I called him dumb as a person not a player at least get that right(although I was messing with his head there as scum). | ||
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On January 06 2017 12:30 Grackaroni wrote: Why did you change your mind on Darthfoley? After the qt stuff and my invrestigation on him and his reaction to my result actually seems very towny now. | ||
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On December 28 2016 11:00 Koshi wrote: ##vote Grackaroni in 4 pages: I have no clue who he thinks is mafia. I have not seen him push the game forward. (aka brought new interesting topics to discuss with people) I have not seen him try to progress his own reads by asking somebody a question that would further his read on them. He scumreads LS, makes 2 posts on why he is mafia, and then doesn't mention him in the next 20 posts he makes. He townreads ExO when it is safe to do so, and then pushes that read onto people like he discovered that read. While he had nothing to say about ExO the entire game (before he hard townread him). Probably mafia. Will monitor if he picks up his play. My addition to it: On December 28 2016 11:04 LightningStrike wrote: I too think Grack is potential mafia too due to how when I was hard pushing you Koshi earlier he kept trying to steer it away to Slam who we both know is harder to read based on pure pushing. now that I think about you kinda of reeked TMI early on to Koshi and just hopped on his wagon very late when you said you would lynch him but you waited until very close to EoD to actually join that wagon. Also you are misrepresenting me on coming up with my own reads when I shown in this game that I don't trouble with coming up with my own reads. Anyways Grack you better hope I not get the nuke or I will nuke your ass back to 2016 where you belong if you are town. | ||
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On January 06 2017 13:03 Grackaroni wrote: You said earlier that GB's VT check on you made sense because you had just been turned blue during the day post. Why are you using now saying this to argue that he is scum? At the time we didn't have btdt claim cop and I was on mobile at the time too so I didn't bother with it and forgot about it when I got home after. | ||
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On January 06 2017 13:00 Grackaroni wrote: This is why you can't be town. You haven't given any thought to my alignment since the start of day 1. There's nothing in that Koshi case that could be a relevant reason for lynching me. The ending to your post is reasoning from disfo that you have already credited to him days ago. Ya I couldn't find that post for some reason. Just die and if you lynch me bye bye your only hope to keeping the cop alive for 1.5 days.since I got a item I could use for it. | ||
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On January 06 2017 13:08 Grackaroni wrote: I'm referring to this: Now you're trying to argue that GB lied about his check on you because it should have showed up blue. He could easily lied about not appearing blue and was trying to get a easy mislynch on a claimed blue. IF YOU ARE TOWN FUCK YOU AND I WONT EVER PLAY WITH YOU EVER AGAIN AND I WILL DODGE EVERY GAME YOU ENTER. | ||
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On January 06 2017 13:55 LightningStrike wrote: Damn it doesn't look like I can give my items away................ 3 good bandages that could prolong the life of our cop for 3 extra phases incase he gets hit my kp. | ||
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On January 07 2017 06:17 LightningStrike wrote: BTW one last piece of information about the bandages before leaving TL Mafia for 2 years if Grack is town: They can be used for self healing. | ||
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On January 07 2017 22:08 disformation wrote: Was hoping to see more stuff to catch up to. Lets see what we've got here. Two things wrong with nuking LS: a) Which nuke? b) I also really don't want to nuke someone who is the lock lynch and asks for a nuke. Really easy for scum to have an anti-nuke, a power that delays his death or something else that prevents him dying to that nuke. Which puts town in a really awkward spot. Well. The game started with 3 scum... but TBH to me it is way more plausible that town just plays real bad and there are three scum. Couldn't find a 10 hour version of this so I had to put it on auto repeat. Good job. this: Like it is fine if you don't have that much time to play, but I dunno. You don't seem to read stuff very carefully. Or comment a lot on outdated stuff while catching up. You had some really good posts this game, which makes this even more... dunno... *sigh*. Oh btw on this: The Dota 2 game, where Shape and me where co-hosts, had a town rolecop. So GB roles prolly tells us jack about his alignment. Another huge thing: Superbia had a super shitty horrible role for town and he was forced to use it. Couldn't scum have super shitty horrible roles for scum and be forced to use it too? Which is why we really need btdt to come back, because he is like not conf. town. Two more notes on that: For some reason LS didn't see the part where I said btdt claimed 2 shot cop. So him giving the bandages to btdt makes only sense if he is either trying to help his mate or wants to implicate btdt. Another reason I want LS gone. Chez item is super pro town. I think his role is super pro town too. Unfortunately: remember what I just said about Superbia's role. But I don't think Chez is the lynch today. And I want to use the item and see what happens first. I've been thinking about that carousel... What if we force all scummy ??? players to join it. So they can't fiddle with the rest of us? If it would affect the NK it would be like really amazing. Problem is from what I understand: I will make all like track/check/whatever things crap, so its really hard to say who we want to put in there. Any ideas? Slam already fearlessly joined. I think I'd like for at least tt2 to join it too. Does anyone have abilities or items that would work well in the carousel? The reason why I trying to give it to btdt is because he can use it himself plus since he is a 2 shot cop he could use the bandages to heal someone else to give them a extra phase of life simple as that. | ||
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On January 08 2017 03:44 beentheredonethat wrote: So, first things first: I am a two shot cop. I have a "Magnifying Glass" which lets me zoom in on people and lets me know the alignment according to the item's description. I had this item from the very beginning. The night Superbia died, I checked disformation. I was pretty pissed about him because he felt so un-contributing that I chose to target him, hoping to be able to ride a copclaim to a disformation lynch D2. But my magnifying glass said that there's a green under it. Note how it said "green", I think I'm not allowed to quote the heavily themed host PM but I think I can write around it. It basically was a description of the person under the magnifying glass, and it said the person would have a green shirt. As this was the only color implication (basically, it was the description of a bavarian man in lederhosn) I took it as a town alignment. Given that, I sent my paper plane to disformation as I thought that I am under suspcicion for my late game entry anyways and hoped he would be rational enough to not push me. I knew he was town so I felt confident. Given that I did not die in this night, I think it's pretty clear that disformation indeed is town (although there's like a 10% chance or so that the "green shirt" did not imply a town check). I was amazingly mad when I saw that disfo claimed to have received a PM that I sent to the hosts origginally, stating that I am sorry for how I treated him EoD1. Fun thing is that while disfo apparently made that up, I indeed sent a PM to Shapelog, saying that I felt like I went too far in my disformation rage and got way too much on a personal level, and Shapelog basically offered me to remind me postgame to apologize to disformation. I absolutely hated and still hate that Tictock is not caught up at all yet chimes in every now and then to put shade on me without having any clue of how the game is going. I see myself as one of the main game drivers D2, and I felt like I put up solid points about Time Traveler and I was raging af when I realized that ExO was town. I have not submitted my second check in the night phase. I was absolutely pissed at the hosts for seemingly exchanging the PMs, thus I felt like I got fucked over and chose to not come back to play this game. However, I got PM'ed by kitaman in the meantime, asking me to play Newbie Mafia as I have confirmed there. So I came back to TL, and started reading this game, and I realized that disformation, well, lied about what I sent to him. I still have my second check. I need to be protected in the following night I guess. Disformation is confirmed town. My scumreads are Time Traveler and TicTock. I like the LS stuff. He even sent me a paper plane saying that he'd provide the famous bandages to me but I have not received any bandages. I don't know when or if I am going to receive them. Grackaroni needs to explain why he thought I'd be dead. Yes, I had the rusty armour, correct, but I used it already. By the way this could mean that I was attacked and will flip at the end of this day. However, I got no notification about that. Could be Grack TMI'ing at this point. So. All of this post is only possible due to disformation so this post should be regarded as a praise. EoD if I don't get lynched otherwise they will be lost. | ||
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On January 08 2017 03:55 beentheredonethat wrote: Given that I have one check left and I'd like to survive the night I am pretty willing to give LS a pass for one day and lynch Time Traveler instead, always hoping that the bandages will provide everything I need. Also, LS, if you're indeed town and you indeed have the bandages, then send the bandages EITHER to confirmed town disformation or to me and don't let anyone know your decision. If roleblocks kill the bandages, mafia roleblocker will have to guess between disfo and me. I understood it correctly that bandages can self-heal as well as other-heal? They can self-heal or heal other people. | ||
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On January 08 2017 04:10 beentheredonethat wrote: Which is plain bullshit and anti-town just like disfo's self voting so stop it and vote for your counter wagon like any rational person would do. Or, everyone is right with your scum meta and you're indeed scum, in this case, continue. Nah really, this will not bring us any further. The second wagon I want wont happen until after I get lynched unless you guys convince others to vote Time Traveler to get majority. I not going to put effort into lynching Grack because everyone is a brick wall or just plain jackasses and rather be jackasses than lynching scum. | ||
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On January 08 2017 05:13 beentheredonethat wrote: Erm yeah there was something about GB. And LS. Waitwaitwait I think we're missing stuff here. LS claims Cop/Investigative GB claims Cop/Investigative BTDT claims 2-shot Cop/Investigative You guys DO realize that there's a like something fishy in there, right? LS what's your claim again? I can check if someone got a item just the name but not what it does. | ||
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On January 08 2017 05:09 disformation wrote: You have done 0 to convince us that Grack is scum. YES i HAVE TRIED FOR 2 DAYS AND 2 NIGHTS FOR FUCKS SAKE ARE YOU BLIND AS FUCK MAN? HOW CAN YOU EVEN SEE WHAT YOU POST? | ||
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MODS MOD KILL ME PLEASE? THANKS IN ADVANCE | ||
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On January 08 2017 05:48 darthfoley wrote: Honestly don't even care if you're town at this point. I really hope you're scum just so you know this baby rage meta is useless from now on WEELL FUCK YOU TOO BRO | ||
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@Slam: Why you think Chez is scum? @Grack: I sorry about how I treated you like absolute crap and will do a self impose exile from playing for a good 2 months. I wont blame you for trying to just vote me despite everything. | ||
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On January 08 2017 12:40 Grackaroni wrote: Lol I sent you the narcotics. Regardless of alignment it's ok LS. I just get annoyed sometimes because I get too invested in the game. I think I know what I going to do with them once the day comes. I too get annoyed at times and get to emotionally invested into games which is part of a problem with me as a player :\ | ||
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On January 08 2017 08:14 Irresistible Object wrote: Someone dropped this letter in the street - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - AAAAYY LMAO This might of come from Time Traveler trying to frame Slam due to Time Traveler's role. | ||
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In Day 1 he found Time Traveler scummy and still had him as a scum in potental policy lynches and I think the scum team went for Superbia on that plus him claiming blue so it was a easy choice to night kill I think. He did also had df as potential scum but don't think df is scummy currently. | ||
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[QUOTE]On January 08 2017 15:55 Alakaslam wrote: [QUOTE]On January 08 2017 12:33 LightningStrike wrote: Well just got home and I honestly surprised that disformation decided to not lynch me and was hoping to die just so I wouldn't be a question mark. Anyways someone gave me suspicious narcotics which makes me return as mafia to cop checks -.- Also it's good to see Time Traveler flipped scum ^_^ Also df just confirmed he saved Grack so Grack might actually be town here. Also noted that disformation just confirmed I am blue before I got the suspicious narcotics. @Slam: Why you think Chez is scum? @Grack: I sorry about how I treated you like absolute crap and will do a self impose exile from playing for a good 2 months. I wont blame you for trying to just vote me despite everything.[/QUOTE] I am a disciple of Chez | ||
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On January 08 2017 23:53 disformation wrote: Dunno. Don't think GB looks really scummy. Like he had a good D1. And when he came bakc D2 with little time, he asked the right questions and tried to get the best lynch for what limited info he got. lynch was between two of his top scumreads he chose the wrong one. hmmm... investigatives into gb/chez/slam would be great I agree we should have a check into gb/chez/slam to make the game easier on us. I don't think all 3 mafia would be on the ExO wagon tbh. I think there is one in the Time Traveler Wagon. | ||
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On January 09 2017 00:01 disformation wrote: Okay lets look at that thing again: Day 2 ExO_ (6) : Time Traveler (3) : Alakaslam, beentheredonethat, darthfoley, Alakaslam (1) : darthfoley (0) : Grackaroni (0) : Not voting (1) : ExO_ Its either 1-1-1 or 2-0-1 or 2-1-0 If a second scummer is on the ExO_ its probably in GlowingBear, Grackaroni, Tictock just from the voting pattern. If all three of those are town its basically: Chez + either slam or DF. From what I recall GB convinced tt to join on ExO_ as it was 4:4. Might look shady. BUT as scum GB would have known TT2 would save himself. Can't remember why grack and TT ended up voting ExO_ exactly though. I think DF was like "oh I kinda dont like both, but I want a second wagon." which on one hand gives a good excuse to not be on the same wagon as your scum mates, but I guess it would be more scummy if both wagons are town. Ya I think if we can dive into the timing of the votes and reasoning we might be able to get to the bottom of it. | ||
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On January 09 2017 00:03 GlowingBear wrote: Wait, didn't LS townread Exo before???? I did until disformation told me to check Dota 2 about the constant excuses for him and I agreed that he was more likely scum for that since in Dota 2 he did make a bunch of excuses for not playing. | ||
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Unless we got a better question then I think this might be the best call. | ||
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On January 09 2017 03:33 beentheredonethat wrote: I think I know who I'm checking. Okay just don't tell anyone until the last minute before Deadline? | ||
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On January 09 2017 03:28 disformation wrote: Legit question. Chez role is imo very pro town. From what we have seen so far. But by giving us items he makes us think he is town. Look at superbia's role. He had a super anti town role and was forced to use it. What if Chez is forced to give town items? Thats all a bunch of wifom though. Ya Superbia's role actually is a mafia oriented role instead of town due to that. Just host WIFOM I think too. | ||
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On January 09 2017 04:52 Tictock wrote: I dunno what to think about LS honestly. Like I think that EoD was super weird with how close the votes were and how overall dead the thread was. Traveler not voting LS for survival also seems really odd if LS is town. I'm feeling like Mafia kinda had to have been afk kus Dis went back to LS and Traveler could have moved to LS then and saved himself. Though LS being Scum also explains this pretty well also. We should almost definitely be lynching into Chez, GB, and LS tomorrow I think. Take it as you like but I been checked by disformation with the seed and the seed turned blue which fits with be claiming my role as it would appear blue in that situation. Anyways I doing another item check I will tell you guys EoN who I item checked. | ||
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On January 09 2017 04:57 disformation wrote: I think LS also had like 0 mention of TT2 D2. It's true but it's because I never really tried to read him as I was to tunneled on Grack to read him. Also he wasn't really around when I was around so meh. | ||
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On January 09 2017 04:59 Grackaroni wrote: Glowingbear can you not use any ability at all during the night? From the sound of things it looks like it. | ||
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On January 09 2017 05:42 disformation wrote: Like scum either super afk or didnt care at all. or both. I think the 1st because scum knows my alignment and should of secured the lynch on me. I think it was a mistake for scum to let the lynch on Time Traveler even happen or make it possible. | ||
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On January 09 2017 05:51 disformation wrote: Thing is. Regardless of the third person, the second one is probably one of Slam/Chez. So can really be like 2 afk and last one already on the other wagon? maybe 1 on me but wasn't around EoD and 1 out of the non votes might make more sense. Just dunno atm. | ||
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Okay I gave disformation my bandages he will be able to confirm it. I was given a chance to get a ancestral mace after surviving the last lynch so I trying to pick it up and hopefully get it. I hope btdt checked in to chez/slam/gb for more info. I also doing a item check on Slam. Here is a funny moment in a video that you mgiht go to hell if you laugh: + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Also Slam True of False: You have 0 items on you? | ||
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On January 09 2017 10:35 disformation wrote: cause hes the obv target fot the healing items we wrre talking about all day, aka going for a medic dodge shot. | ||
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Good job btdt although it came out weird I assuming a red check. | ||
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you do have just 1 item the radio I was seeing you got anything other than that. | ||
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On January 09 2017 22:59 GlowingBear wrote: Ok, whoever claimed your roles, please remind me what you are. My role let's me check 1 person per night to see if they got any items. I will only know the name of the items not what they do. | ||
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On January 09 2017 23:13 disformation wrote: The thing is: that is such a stupid result for an alignment check that I don't think btdt is lying about it. not 100% sure what that check is trying to tell us though Could the host be fucking with us on that? | ||
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On January 09 2017 23:28 disformation wrote: If I think the check on LS is true and grack conf. town cause saved D2. Then I am basically 2 of gb/chez/slam, cause everyone else is town. and given tt2/slam interactions it is just chez and gb and the game is over. Your check on me is true I can assure you that. | ||
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On January 10 2017 06:42 Grackaroni wrote: I gave you dentures I gave disfo a healing potion I gave btdt some armor I gave DF a weak tracking thingy I gave slam a walkie talkie that also does nothing And I gave LS a miller item that I had for a while but had to get rid of or it would be randomly distributed. Okay the bolded is weird mainly the randomly distributed portion although yes I did get the item. My Crossbow didn't get randomly distributed at all and I got it day 1. Also the suspicious narcotics didn't say anything about being randomly distributed after a period of time. | ||
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On January 10 2017 08:00 Grackaroni wrote: That's part of my role for all items, which could be semi-confirmed by TT since I've talked about it in QT nights ago. Oh I thought you meant it as part of the item itself. Thank you for clarifying it. | ||
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On January 10 2017 22:38 GlowingBear wrote: LS why did you give bandages to disformation saying "I had to give it to you GUYS" and sais "thank you" that he saved you from getting lynched? Because if I ended up not getting lynched I rather have him get them so I could focus on trying to figure what items people have instead since I didn't know dis's role but considering he's confirmed town I rather him have than anyone else. | ||
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On January 11 2017 01:59 disformation wrote: @LS: can you confirm sending me a msg or not? i didnt get shit today I did sent you a paper plane. | ||
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On January 11 2017 02:09 disformation wrote: yeah I didnt get shit today Wtf did the hosts really not send my paper plane for the day? ................ | ||
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On January 11 2017 02:13 disformation wrote: should just have yolo fired it at grack yesterday -.- If you are right and Grack was scum then perhaps my tunnel on him wasn't so terrible? | ||
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It's time for making nuke puns now? It not like we blew the game wide open. | ||
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On January 11 2017 04:33 disformation wrote: this game is pretty much wifom hell Welcome not normal games I guess lol. | ||
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On January 11 2017 04:43 disformation wrote: So... to change my will I need to survive until EoN. To give away items I will need to survive until EoN. bloody brilliant. =D | ||
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On January 12 2017 06:25 Tictock wrote: I kinda think it is Grack/Slam at this point. LS what do you think of BtDt? Idk man the fact gb flipped town was odd unless there was a item that changed his alignment when checked that he didn't tell us about or scum got a frame ability that isn't a item. Also I agree with you on it being slam/grack I was starting to think that while I went away from the thread. I think we lynch Slam first honestly. | ||
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On January 12 2017 06:42 Tictock wrote: Why Slam first? I honestly think the 2nd poll was Obs without the Dead players since they have this F'ed up game to play. Since no one else wnats to lynch Grack first Ithink it's the most realistic one out of the 2 to get a lynch on first. But the thing that still troubles me is the missing KP though that's my biggest problem to figure out. Did someone not claim that they had a item that blocks kp or somehow roleblocked a scum that was going to deliver the kp? | ||
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On January 14 2017 10:11 beentheredonethat wrote: "Why did I die before btdt? Such a weird kill for them." from obs LS. I was nailbiting that noone would ask that question ![]() Well obviously should of been killed if you were town despite the stuff on GB. But serious why you had to kill me when I was still a question mark? | ||
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On January 14 2017 10:18 disformation wrote: aw come on, you didnt even nuke yourself No I treated Grack like total crap and I feeling very bad about it. | ||
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On January 14 2017 10:21 Grackaroni wrote: That's ok. I think it's cool that we can move on to new games without dragging up things from earlier games. Also my behavior is usually pretty bad too lol. *See newbie game. Hmm I might play since I know Damdred is back in action and I like playing with him tbh. Okay I will try to treat you better the next we play together. | ||
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On January 14 2017 10:16 Koshi wrote: nha that point was 100% correct. But you would have lynched mafia ![]() True but however we would still have trouble finding the 3rd mafia in Chez by association which is why I think it's better to lynch into the active players more so than not. btdt at the time I made that statement btdt didn't have many posts. | ||
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On January 14 2017 10:24 beentheredonethat wrote: During night, I painted a big "It's between Tictock and Grack" thing. Tictock wouldn't be an easy mislynch. Basically it was killing you or killing Tictock. In the end, I feared your activity more than I feared Tictock's activity. You both townread me so I wanted to lynch Grack or Slam. Ah fair enough just that I was still questionable to Grack TT sort of. | ||
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On January 14 2017 10:26 Grackaroni wrote: I miss Rayn! T_T I think he's just busy tbh. | ||
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On January 14 2017 10:28 beentheredonethat wrote: I also hoped that with TT/Slam/Chez activity would just drop off and the game would die off with the town. Funny enough: if Grack had actually tried and found me as scum, town would've won, given the modkills at the end. It's a legit tatic to kill off high activity players but Iwasn't that active until Night 3 but even then I was still kind of inactive for my own standards lol. | ||
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On January 14 2017 10:32 beentheredonethat wrote: It was just so funny when you started raging and you got scumread for it because you raged as scum in a previous game :D Raging is NAI for me now so you guys can't use that argument for scumreading me anymore ![]() | ||
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On January 14 2017 10:48 cakepie wrote: You get a different kind of mjolnir on D3, either IML hammer ability or secret toggle-able vote on the redcheck. Too bad you stayed on the huge wagon, could have gone hunting for check elsewhere. That is the true optimal strat for your quest. Ya but however I don't want to be scumread for wasting my vote there tbh that was my main concern. I would of loved that secret toggle-able vote on the red check so much tbh lol. | ||
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On January 14 2017 10:50 Grackaroni wrote: I thought Slam was giving me a hint that I could become gollum if I kept the ring. He was just responding to me item checking him and asking him if it's true he had 0 items in case he would lie. | ||
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On January 15 2017 05:10 cakepie wrote: Missed this. They were a one-shot per day, one-way PM. They were tied to weather: - fair weather = delivered normally - fog = message delayed by 12 hours - drizzle = minor obfuscation of message (ink+raindrops, bad combination) - breeze = RNG redirect 35% +/-1 and 15% +/-2 offset from intended recipient - downpour = message lost Each person gets a different weather each day by RNG; the weather forecast dictates the RNG probabilities for each weather effect on that day. I don't think one-shot PM is that terribly scum favored. Yes, you're thinking scum can use it to send misleading information out of public eye. But town can also use it to coordinate and share non-public info. It just needs evaluated. The weather put a twist on things but for the most part fog and drizzle effects did not really do much damage. Not everyone used it on D2, and only LS used it on D3 and D4. Of course, that D4 paper plane was game changing >-<;; feelsbadman. Wish GB didn't get it ![]() | ||
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On January 15 2017 04:10 cakepie wrote: + Show Spoiler + note that I wont any of that against you, as running such a game takes a lot of work and balance is fickle. I kinda think you guys overestimated town/underestimated scum. but tbh this town was pretty crap and that stuff is super hard to predict anways, so whatever. still i am feeling like ranting about a bunch of stuff that i observed/think might be a bit borderline. Was pretty surprised when one of you said he thought chez role would fuck scum over at some point. his role is prolly the only reason he didnt get lynched super early and in a game where town has 0 trust to each other (house of brown) you just give town kp and wathc them kill each other. or themselves. so i am 0 surprised his role was good for scum. but again. this shit is super hard to predict. general observation: i think it is has very low risk to a very high reward for fakeclaiming stuff in themed games. in palmars game iamp was able to get away with convincing town of being anti town 3P. in dota 2 Hoshi nearly rode out the game off having made up a pro town ability. This game btdt was able to convince town of being a 2 shot cop. though tbh its more that he bussed tt2 super hard. in dota 2 it was somewhat easier to determine fake claims since the abilities were kinda tied to roles and a rolecop would be able to somewhat determine if someone was lying. a pity he died n1. I don't know if Chez or BTDT role names would have helped, but for like meacha-cow or the plains dragoon it would be impossible to find out what abilities they had from the name. well. dragoons usually have a horse and a carbine, so you could argue for a vig shot. so not sure how good GB's rolecop ability was. you maybe could argue that town might to try figure that out based on balance, there were some posts about too many prot/investigatives around, but this is a bastard game, so how the fuck are we supposed to know what ideas you guys had. maybe all the investigatives are insane? which is I basically ignored those posts on the grounds of not wanting mechanics at all to figure out this game. on that note I should not have trusted the red check on GB. but I would have checked GB, too. So the check made sense and the result kinda did too. Also would have had to fight Grack over not trusting the red, while trusting my blue on LS. didnt want to do that. so that might have been my bad, not sure though. tldr: i think if i am to run a themed in the future I will probably include 1 town fav. role/mechanic that makes fake claims more risky for scum. I dont want to make it stupid/impossible, as good fake claims are good, but I think in the last 3 games it was low risk very high reward. This one was tackled in depth by me, excerpts follow: I had a couple thoughts too re "balance" We have to keep in mind this format was kind of experimental But I really think it has some nice potential if executed correctly I think selling the troll factor and "bastard" nature of the game was a mistake If ever something like this is done again it should be approached in the mindset of like D&D or tabletop gaming. The hosts are like the game masters and will adjust the gameplay on the fly, to provide interesting stuff, make things more dynamic than just preset roles or preplanned power ups, and just a bit of troll for spice and fun. But the contract should be that we will try to keep balance as much as possible (disclaimer: no promises cuz it's hard to predict what weird unforeseen emergent gameplay might happen) perhaps some limitations on what quackery is allowed/disallowed and what is fair/unfair. NOT what shapelog did going all over the place making a big deal about "anything is possible *trollface* mafia was quite hilarious too. Tragedy of errors on both sides all game long I knew all along that it would be a mechanics-based deepwolf if town got obsessed with roles and mechanics. But he was also quite limited in what he could do. (already discussed above) valid observation. worth thinking about how to compensate for this as hosts, and conversely players should also be more cautious about what they believe. nope. once we got past the SoN1 hump and started flavoring shit properly it was completely useless. We gave scum a useless flavor name cop, lol. GB wasn't rolecop at all. GB had a vanilla cop power that was essentially useless past N1. GB correctly switched to using nanite milke (combat medic) subsequently. GB's bungled N1 role and action claim caused a big ruckus with LS; it was so painful to watch that we eventually fed LS a clue about it. should not have sold it as bastard game. I even mention it could of been GB that you guys gave me a clue on with that hint :o On January 10 2017 22:34 LightningStrike wrote: Good morning I here why not nuke Grack instead of lynching him if you feel like he's scum dis? Also remember my Mace post EoN/ Start of Day? Well I gained some knowledge instead that someone misread or misread understood their role and action as well as misremembered their role. I think that fits Chez real well considering how he claimed Doctor when he's more of an inventor type role with his seeds. Or could be GB considering how stuff went down the last couple of Day phases. Granted I said it could of been Chez too but still lol....... | ||
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On January 15 2017 13:33 Chezinu wrote: Not directed to you per say, but here are good starts for town play in general when analyzing the game: Normally, a good tactic would be to focus on votes and compare to what people say. And watch for drastic changes in people's opinion of people right before a lynch ends. See who the dead mafia talked about the least. Support pressure voting to get lazy/inactive townies to play to win. Sometimes they need pressure. Study people's meta if they have a readable meta... Focus on those who you think are town and have a past history of being right. When you are leaning a certain way and someone you trust does too. It is a good indication you are going the right way (I use to do this all the time with players like Ver, BC, koshi, vivax..etc). I wouldn't always speak it in the thread, but I would be watching as I trolled. My votes would show my true colors. Oh course, when I'm mafia. I try to counter almost all of these. Which lives us to know your audience or players. Know your serious players, troll players, casual, prone to inactivity.. Playing mafia requires a multi-facet approach. Both Town and Mafia must fight to resist a lynch unless your town and want to prevent a potential blue from getting lynch. The nature of this game made it easy for mafia to expound on people's false beliefs about the game (there are no mafia) or to make them believe in the see (have a mafia inventor and time traveling message). I would not hold this game as a true assessment of your skills. This game was not born in matrimony. Okay fair enough. I will try to use your advice in my next game. | ||
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