• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:05
CEST 05:05
KST 12:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play0Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)48ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo25Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611
StarCraft 2
General
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) take on 5.0.16 ?Bug in new patch Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK #4 20-21th June Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed
Brood War
General
Fact based Zerg Upgrade Tier List BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ STARCRAFT MOVIE - Last Night at the Command center BW General Discussion Battle cruiser feet vs Carrier fleet
Tourneys
[BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST [Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSLAN 4 is Coming! Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
Rogue Command ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How To Predict Tilt in Espor…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7564 users

Liquidmania Qualifier #1

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
1 2 3 Next All
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 10 2016 10:42 GMT
#8
/in
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 18 2016 18:52 GMT
#53
when does this start?
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 19 2016 15:36 GMT
#100
On December 20 2016 00:31 Kmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 00:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:22 Kmatt wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:21 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:15 Kmatt wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:06 sicklucker wrote:
kill lightning strike. via night kill preferably


Wait what? Are you just sarcastically scumbaiting or do we not like LS? If you're asking for a night kill aren't you assuming he's town? Or is it that you think he's a bad town and will get himself lynched if left alive?

What your opinion on this Kmatt? Do you think think he was being sarcastic about me or do you think he scumslipped this early or what?


My assumption is that he thinks you're a bad town and wants you gone before you waste a lynch vote.

Honestly if I was a bad town I surprised he would night kill me when he's scum because it would mean he thinks I was a threat on finding his team.


I'm willing to bet that was sarcasm.

SL any input here? I'd rather not have to speak on your behalf when we're in this thread together.


"in this thread together"

I wish I had a buddy in the thread with me
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 19 2016 15:42 GMT
#103
On December 20 2016 00:40 Kmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 00:36 ExO_ wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:31 Kmatt wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:22 Kmatt wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:21 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:15 Kmatt wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:06 sicklucker wrote:
kill lightning strike. via night kill preferably


Wait what? Are you just sarcastically scumbaiting or do we not like LS? If you're asking for a night kill aren't you assuming he's town? Or is it that you think he's a bad town and will get himself lynched if left alive?

What your opinion on this Kmatt? Do you think think he was being sarcastic about me or do you think he scumslipped this early or what?


My assumption is that he thinks you're a bad town and wants you gone before you waste a lynch vote.

Honestly if I was a bad town I surprised he would night kill me when he's scum because it would mean he thinks I was a threat on finding his team.


I'm willing to bet that was sarcasm.

SL any input here? I'd rather not have to speak on your behalf when we're in this thread together.


"in this thread together"

I wish I had a buddy in the thread with me


That's a little too opportunistic/innocuous of an entry without contributing to a discussion.

##vote ExO_


speaking of opportunistic voting
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 19 2016 15:53 GMT
#108
On December 20 2016 00:47 Kmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 00:42 ExO_ wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:40 Kmatt wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:36 ExO_ wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:31 Kmatt wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:22 Kmatt wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:21 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:15 Kmatt wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:06 sicklucker wrote:
kill lightning strike. via night kill preferably


Wait what? Are you just sarcastically scumbaiting or do we not like LS? If you're asking for a night kill aren't you assuming he's town? Or is it that you think he's a bad town and will get himself lynched if left alive?

What your opinion on this Kmatt? Do you think think he was being sarcastic about me or do you think he scumslipped this early or what?


My assumption is that he thinks you're a bad town and wants you gone before you waste a lynch vote.

Honestly if I was a bad town I surprised he would night kill me when he's scum because it would mean he thinks I was a threat on finding his team.


I'm willing to bet that was sarcasm.

SL any input here? I'd rather not have to speak on your behalf when we're in this thread together.


"in this thread together"

I wish I had a buddy in the thread with me


That's a little too opportunistic/innocuous of an entry without contributing to a discussion.

##vote ExO_


speaking of opportunistic voting


Your post was cherry-picking a reply as to not be inactive but still be out of sight for the last 12 hours. Mine is acknowledging low-hanging fruit. And you still aren't questioning/analyzing/posting reads so


Cherry-picking? Are you fucking kidding me?

I just woke up, haven't even rolled out of bed yet. Saying something about a buddy in a game with this few players is a bit interesting don't you think? I'd think no town player is so ready to befriend anybody else as you are with that post. Accusing me of posting to not appear inactive is completely ridiculous. I just got into the thread, just realized the game started.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 19 2016 16:34 GMT
#119
so somehow koshi/kmatt are going to come into the thread, scum reading me for some stupid ass reason. kmatt ignores my comment about him buddying, as any scum would. and both koshi/kmatt ignore disinformation pseudo defending me. If I'm scummy, why isn't disinfo scummy too hmm koshi/kmatt?
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 19 2016 16:39 GMT
#121
I'm fairly certain in past games Koshi has said something roughly along the lines of wasting inactive players is a waste of time, and we should focus on finding scum instead. Why is he so ready to lynch inactives now?
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 19 2016 16:41 GMT
#122
*wasting lynches on inactive playres
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 19 2016 16:44 GMT
#124
On December 20 2016 01:43 Kmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 01:34 ExO_ wrote:
so somehow koshi/kmatt are going to come into the thread, scum reading me for some stupid ass reason. kmatt ignores my comment about him buddying, as any scum would. and both koshi/kmatt ignore disinformation pseudo defending me. If I'm scummy, why isn't disinfo scummy too hmm koshi/kmatt?


Okay looking back I misread you the first time, thought you meant I was buddying with LightningStrike by conversing. Still not really buddying with Sicklucker, it was LS who was having a hard time understanding the comment so there's no harm in explaining it to him. My bit about "being in this thread together" refers to the fact that SL could very easily answer these questions himself.

And Disinfo not immediately agreeing with me doesn't make him scum. Being this invested in your own innocence and pointing fingers at us for having the audacity to doubt you is scummy. If you were really town you'd be proving it by lynching scum, not throwing shade because we're scumhunting.


Disinfo didn't immediately agree with you, he disregarded your case by saying im not a morning person. Are you reading the same thread as I am?
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 19 2016 16:53 GMT
#132
On December 20 2016 01:47 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 01:39 ExO_ wrote:
I'm fairly certain in past games Koshi has said something roughly along the lines of wasting inactive players is a waste of time, and we should focus on finding scum instead. Why is he so ready to lynch inactives now?

When there is content to discuss, sitting on your hands and lynching inactives is bad.

Is that what I am doing Exo? What am I doing Exo? Can you tell me what I am doing?


You and evidently kmatt think that the first post I make into the thread, because it's literally one of the first things I noticed when I realized the game started is making a huge case. I posted one sentence, and suddenly thats a case against kmatt? If you want to talk about overreaction, that's a huge overreaction. He immediately omgus me. I was literally still in bed and it tilted me a bit.

And you hop on in support of him right away, and then suggestion we should vote off an inactive. You won't commit to voting me, but I don't see you discussing anything else right now
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 19 2016 16:54 GMT
#133
On December 20 2016 01:49 Koshi wrote:
Feels like you are playing a game against this thread Exo.

Kmatt buddying
Disinfo defending
Koshi also mafia?

It's weird


I don't think disinfo is scum, I'm saying you guys not finding him suspicious if you think I'm scum, is suspicious.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 19 2016 16:57 GMT
#136
On December 20 2016 01:56 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 01:53 ExO_ wrote:
On December 20 2016 01:47 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 01:39 ExO_ wrote:
I'm fairly certain in past games Koshi has said something roughly along the lines of wasting inactive players is a waste of time, and we should focus on finding scum instead. Why is he so ready to lynch inactives now?

When there is content to discuss, sitting on your hands and lynching inactives is bad.

Is that what I am doing Exo? What am I doing Exo? Can you tell me what I am doing?


You and evidently kmatt think that the first post I make into the thread, because it's literally one of the first things I noticed when I realized the game started is making a huge case. I posted one sentence, and suddenly thats a case against kmatt? If you want to talk about overreaction, that's a huge overreaction. He immediately omgus me. I was literally still in bed and it tilted me a bit.

And you hop on in support of him right away, and then suggestion we should vote off an inactive. You won't commit to voting me, but I don't see you discussing anything else right now

I am fully committing voting you. Just cba to do it on phone.

I can only do so much. You are top priority atm. Pls answer my questions truthfully. You are on thin ice.


I couldn't care in the slightest about being on thin ice with you. You're a loose cannon. But how can I answer questions if you haven't even asked any?
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 19 2016 16:59 GMT
#138
On December 20 2016 01:57 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 01:54 ExO_ wrote:
On December 20 2016 01:49 Koshi wrote:
Feels like you are playing a game against this thread Exo.

Kmatt buddying
Disinfo defending
Koshi also mafia?

It's weird


I don't think disinfo is scum, I'm saying you guys not finding him suspicious if you think I'm scum, is suspicious.

O rly? Can you explain why?


I don't have a fucking reason to think he's scum yet. Especially when kmatt is over here omgusing me at the first thing I say and you are defending him like crazy.

Do I already need to have a 5 page analysis on why I think every player is town? I'm not going to operate from the assumption that everyone is scum, that's fucking retarded. I'll scum read someone when I have a reason to think they are scum
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 19 2016 17:08 GMT
#142
On December 20 2016 02:02 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 01:59 ExO_ wrote:
On December 20 2016 01:57 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 01:54 ExO_ wrote:
On December 20 2016 01:49 Koshi wrote:
Feels like you are playing a game against this thread Exo.

Kmatt buddying
Disinfo defending
Koshi also mafia?

It's weird


I don't think disinfo is scum, I'm saying you guys not finding him suspicious if you think I'm scum, is suspicious.

O rly? Can you explain why?


I don't have a fucking reason to think he's scum yet. Especially when kmatt is over here omgusing me at the first thing I say and you are defending him like crazy.

Do I already need to have a 5 page analysis on why I think every player is town? I'm not going to operate from the assumption that everyone is scum, that's fucking retarded. I'll scum read someone when I have a reason to think they are scum

You are focussing on the wrong part of that sentence.

I'm saying you guys not finding him suspicious if you think I'm scum, is suspicious.
Why?



Goddamn each refresh is a new red alert from my virusthingie.
[/b][/b]

If you think I'm a scum:

Kmatt comes into the thread and votes me. Disinfo basically brushes off the case saying I'm not a morning person and tries to redirect the conversation elsewhere. If you think I'm scum, why are you both ignoring disinfo doing this?

Either you (and kmatt) don't really think I'm scum, or are ignoring disinfo here for some reason I cannot fathom.

your turn

Why aren't you scum reading him if you think I'm scum?
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 19 2016 17:09 GMT
#143
On December 20 2016 02:07 Holyflare wrote:
Like the kmart guy could be mafia and exo doesn't even factor that in. Just full on tilt mode for no reason.


.....what. That's literally the first thing I implied, and have continued with. just wat
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 19 2016 17:15 GMT
#146
On December 20 2016 02:11 Holyflare wrote:
Then why the fuck are you angry at mafia calling you mafia? What possible reason is there for you to be tilted that he's playing his alignment?

What I'm saying is and what you've now confirmed is you're getting tilted by someone doing a shit play when it's their literal job to do that. It doesn't make sense at all.


What if they aren't mafia? I don't like being called mafia at all. Especially for bullshit reasons. Literally look at the end of the most recent game I played. If you think this is getting "tilted" then I get tilted easily I guess. I don't understand why I'm not allowed to be tilted, especially when I say one sentence and am immediately voted and teamed by 2 people.

Either way it's far too early in the thread for me to lock into both of them being mafia. So I can't just brush them off entirely. THAT would be a scummy thing to do.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 19 2016 17:18 GMT
#147
On December 20 2016 02:14 Holyflare wrote:
I also had to check because while I am lazy I don't normally forget these things. No, you didn't call him mafia at all. You just call koshi and kmart suspicious for not finding a guy you don't even find suspicious, suspicious.

That's straight up bull crap man.


What is this even in reference to? The first thing I did was imply that kmatt attempting to buddy somebody was scummy.

UNLESS I TALK IN ALL CAPS AND WRITE VOTE ##WHOEVER DO YOU NOT THINK I'M CALLING SOMEBODY MAFIA?

Do I have to use small words and spell everything out?
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 19 2016 17:27 GMT
#151
On December 20 2016 02:21 Holyflare wrote:
So you think he's mafia for a bull shit vote
You get tilted regardless
You think disformation isn't suspicious
You push koshi and kmatt as suspicious for not finding disfo suspicious
You say that you are implying they are mafia
You say they might not be mafia and you might be wrong

Is that a fair summary? Can you explain why they should be suspicious of disformation? I'm about 100% sure koshi voted you for being angry at kmatt playing the game instead of some circular deflection logic.

Why does that make them suspicious instead of disformation ACTUALLY being suspicious? Like in a world where you're town you're saying 2 mafia/towns should find someone deflecting off a town you suspicious so why aren't you calling disformation suspicious at all??


I don't agree with your assessment of why Koshi "voted" me. Let Koshi speak for Koshi. I wasn't angry at Kmatt for playing the game, I was angry at being immediately OMGUSed, and I don't think it makes any sense for Koshi to vote me based on that.

They should be suspicious of disinformation because he brushed off anything kmatt was trying to say about me being scum and tried to move the conversation elsewhere. If I'm scum, and disinfo is immediately trying to move the conversation elsewhere, it should be suspicious. What I'm implying is by not even saying anything about disinfo they are acting suspiciously, and looks scum-indicative to me.

I know I'm town. So in order for me to find disinfo suspicious I have to think that he's ignoring what kmatt said about me not because he thinks its bad (which is the obvious conclusion in my mind) but becuase he's mafia just wanting to skirt by. That's not impossible I guess, but I don't think its nearly enough to scum read him for.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 19 2016 17:31 GMT
#154
On December 20 2016 02:24 Holyflare wrote:
I cannot for the life of me fathom how someone can say people are suspicious for not pushing a non-suspicious person.


Why is disinfo not-suspicious? My logic is this:

Koshi/Kmatt think I'm scum
Disinfo immediately tries to deflect the thread away from kmatt's scum reading of me

Therefore if Koshi/Kmatt are really town, who really think I'm scum, they should at least be questioning disinfo
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 19 2016 17:33 GMT
#155
On December 20 2016 02:29 Kmatt wrote:
Can't really quote because mobile but here goes.

As someone said earlier, my initial jab at Exo was more testing the water than anything. His overreaction is the basis of my current read.

Disinformation didn't rebuke my case in any meaningful way. He just interpreted your post differently, and there was nothing odd or unreasonable about it. If he claimed that my current read is baseless, started pointing fingers without a case or spouted expletives I would have reason to suspect him. At the moment I don't.

It looks like Exo is digging this hole deeper with every refresh so I would need a substantial new case to take my vote off of him.


Yeah this is clearly how I would enter the thread and play the game as scum /sarcasm
1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
00:00
#87
PiGStarcraft1010
CranKy Ducklings118
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft1010
ProTech165
RuFF_SC2 150
Nina 83
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 4676
GuemChi 3246
Shuttle 459
Terrorterran 195
League of Legends
Doublelift5069
Counter-Strike
summit1g10325
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox594
Mew2King85
Other Games
C9.Mang0538
ViBE170
Maynarde117
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick922
BasetradeTV155
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 11
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 94
• EnkiAlexander 61
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP32
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush801
Other Games
• Scarra931
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
6h 55m
OSC
13h 55m
Douyu Cup 2020
1d 1h
Oliveira vs Trap
Jieshi vs XY
soO vs FanTaSy
TY vs Coffee
OSC
1d 12h
Douyu Cup 2020
2 days
Neeb vs Impact
MacSed vs Cyan
Scarlett vs Kelazhur
INnoVation vs Dear
Douyu Cup 2020
3 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
herO vs Classic
Maru vs Serral
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
3 days
Douyu Cup 2020
4 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
4 days
[ Show More ]
Online Event
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-19
WardiTV Spring 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.