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On November 03 2016 05:10 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 05:05 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 05:00 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:58 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 04:56 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:54 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 04:53 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:50 Skynx wrote:
None of what happened so far is AI guys please... Then do something that will make AI posts happen. What is the point of sitting around and complaining that people are making early reads exactly? What is the point of spamming bunch of stuff that doesn't have anything to do with anything other than increasing postcount for people that are not here yet? To generate conversation so that the not-yet-here people have something constructive to add, of course. What is your strategy to find scum if we're doing a poor job of it? Add something constructive when i find opportunity to do so. Like I'm doing now, stopping you guys go overboard with surjective NAI stuff cuz it really means absolutely nothing what you guys accuse each other for in past few pages  Oh wonderful, that means that you can tell us how my case on NU doesn't show scum-indicative behaviour Do you have any reads at all? I'm skeptical that you have no initial impressions at all. Here is what happened; Calix sr Exo (gif stuff) Exo sr Calix (doesn't like his push) Everyone sr Everyone (because all pushes are very surjective and doesn't mean anything and everyone is aware of that so might aswell sr the others) What you are asking right now makes sense in that regard as me suggesting you guys pushing NAI stuff on eachother means I should also sr you guys but its just not right and this is all really nothing productive in the end. Fact-check. I never stated a scum-read on ExO. "all pushes are very subjective" - It's Day 1. Of course they are going to be 'subjective'. In fact, almost every single push in the history of mafia is 'subjective'. That doesn't mean you just do nothing since town has to be proactive to gain information, etc etc. This is all very obvious stuff so I won't drone on. With that in mind, your approach is very hard to understand to me.
On November 03 2016 03:08 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 03:06 ExO_ wrote:On November 03 2016 03:04 Calix wrote:
NU's boring. Nothing new to see there.
ExO, should I be asking why you're not 'largely communicating in gifs'? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you're not, but I'm curious as to what made you change your mind. ![[image loading]](http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq303/neko_riddles/Fighting_Over_Marisa_From_Touhou_Pr.gif) So if you ARE mainly communicating in gifs then why claim a role first thing before doing that? Seems illogical for town to do.
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On November 03 2016 05:11 Foreman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 05:05 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 05:00 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:58 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 04:56 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:54 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 04:53 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:50 Skynx wrote:
None of what happened so far is AI guys please... Then do something that will make AI posts happen. What is the point of sitting around and complaining that people are making early reads exactly? What is the point of spamming bunch of stuff that doesn't have anything to do with anything other than increasing postcount for people that are not here yet? To generate conversation so that the not-yet-here people have something constructive to add, of course. What is your strategy to find scum if we're doing a poor job of it? Add something constructive when i find opportunity to do so. Like I'm doing now, stopping you guys go overboard with surjective NAI stuff cuz it really means absolutely nothing what you guys accuse each other for in past few pages Oh wonderful, that means that you can tell us how my case on NU doesn't show scum-indicative behaviour Do you have any reads at all? I'm skeptical that you have no initial impressions at all. Here is what happened; Calix sr Exo (gif stuff) Exo sr Calix (doesn't like his push) Everyone sr Everyone (because all pushes are very surjective and doesn't mean anything and everyone is aware of that so might aswell sr the others) What you are asking right now makes sense in that regard as me suggesting you guys pushing NAI stuff on eachother means I should also sr you guys but its just not right and this is all really nothing productive in the end. Here is what happened: Skynx entered thread Skynx complained about unproductive content Skynx provided unproductive content What you are doing right now is worse than anything you've complained about, because you should be of the mindset that providing even more unproductive content would only make our situation worse, given your remarks.
Last paragraph is the first thing that Foreman's posted that I really like.
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On November 03 2016 05:11 Foreman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 05:05 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 05:00 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:58 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 04:56 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:54 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 04:53 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:50 Skynx wrote:
None of what happened so far is AI guys please... Then do something that will make AI posts happen. What is the point of sitting around and complaining that people are making early reads exactly? What is the point of spamming bunch of stuff that doesn't have anything to do with anything other than increasing postcount for people that are not here yet? To generate conversation so that the not-yet-here people have something constructive to add, of course. What is your strategy to find scum if we're doing a poor job of it? Add something constructive when i find opportunity to do so. Like I'm doing now, stopping you guys go overboard with surjective NAI stuff cuz it really means absolutely nothing what you guys accuse each other for in past few pages Oh wonderful, that means that you can tell us how my case on NU doesn't show scum-indicative behaviour Do you have any reads at all? I'm skeptical that you have no initial impressions at all. Here is what happened; Calix sr Exo (gif stuff) Exo sr Calix (doesn't like his push) Everyone sr Everyone (because all pushes are very surjective and doesn't mean anything and everyone is aware of that so might aswell sr the others) What you are asking right now makes sense in that regard as me suggesting you guys pushing NAI stuff on eachother means I should also sr you guys but its just not right and this is all really nothing productive in the end. Here is what happened: Skynx entered thread Skynx complained about unproductive content Skynx provided unproductive content What you are doing right now is worse than anything you've complained about, because you should be of the mindset that providing even more unproductive content would only make our situation worse, given your remarks.
Well, Calix is the one to make me explain how NAI stuff is NAI you can blame him for that if you really want to.
I'm just here to drink milk and fuck bitches.
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Stating that someone's illogical =/= scum-read, Skynx dear.
As for mahrgell, if you're using mind melds to inform a read then that's fine. But from my point of view, I don't get the same impression when it's vice versa. I would have to see you post things first that I agreed with before I would make that read. It's mostly been you agreeing with me if I recall correctly so I can see where you're coming from in terms of perspective.
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Bah fine;
On November 03 2016 03:19 Foreman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 03:08 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:06 ExO_ wrote:On November 03 2016 03:04 Calix wrote:
NU's boring. Nothing new to see there.
ExO, should I be asking why you're not 'largely communicating in gifs'? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you're not, but I'm curious as to what made you change your mind. So if you ARE mainly communicating in gifs then why claim a role first thing before doing that? Seems illogical for town to do. Way to overanalyze. So tryhard that it makes me think I should ##Vote Calix
On November 03 2016 03:15 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 03:12 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:11 ExO_ wrote:On November 03 2016 03:08 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:06 ExO_ wrote:On November 03 2016 03:04 Calix wrote:
NU's boring. Nothing new to see there.
ExO, should I be asking why you're not 'largely communicating in gifs'? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you're not, but I'm curious as to what made you change your mind. So if you ARE mainly communicating in gifs then why claim a role first thing before doing that? Seems illogical for town to do. You think it's illogical for me to immediate claim VT before posting a gif? Give me a break. If anything your attempt to get me to revert to gif posting only and now trying to throw shade on me is indicative of your scum alignment Please point me to where I 'attempted to get you to revert to gif posting only' if you'd be so kind. You'll note that I specifically said 'I'm glad you are not posting in gifs' (which you then responded to...with a gif...instead of a response) And yes, it's illogical for town to claim a role and then post a gif in lieu of a coherent response. If you were actually happy I wasn't posting gifs, why would you bring up the fact that I said I would post primarily gifs? I think any reasonable person realizes that's much more likely to get me to post gifs, than to offer an explanation that will ultimately be irrelevant to the game. You brought it up in the hopes that I would stick to my word and posts only gifs, instead of helping town. You are scum ##vote Calix
These are absolutely terrible votes.
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On November 03 2016 05:14 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 05:11 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 05:05 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 05:00 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:58 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 04:56 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:54 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 04:53 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:50 Skynx wrote:
None of what happened so far is AI guys please... Then do something that will make AI posts happen. What is the point of sitting around and complaining that people are making early reads exactly? What is the point of spamming bunch of stuff that doesn't have anything to do with anything other than increasing postcount for people that are not here yet? To generate conversation so that the not-yet-here people have something constructive to add, of course. What is your strategy to find scum if we're doing a poor job of it? Add something constructive when i find opportunity to do so. Like I'm doing now, stopping you guys go overboard with surjective NAI stuff cuz it really means absolutely nothing what you guys accuse each other for in past few pages Oh wonderful, that means that you can tell us how my case on NU doesn't show scum-indicative behaviour Do you have any reads at all? I'm skeptical that you have no initial impressions at all. Here is what happened; Calix sr Exo (gif stuff) Exo sr Calix (doesn't like his push) Everyone sr Everyone (because all pushes are very surjective and doesn't mean anything and everyone is aware of that so might aswell sr the others) What you are asking right now makes sense in that regard as me suggesting you guys pushing NAI stuff on eachother means I should also sr you guys but its just not right and this is all really nothing productive in the end. Here is what happened: Skynx entered thread Skynx complained about unproductive content Skynx provided unproductive content What you are doing right now is worse than anything you've complained about, because you should be of the mindset that providing even more unproductive content would only make our situation worse, given your remarks. Last paragraph is the first thing that Foreman's posted that I really like.
This begs the question... What do you object to in the preceding paragraph?
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On November 03 2016 05:24 Foreman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 05:14 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 05:11 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 05:05 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 05:00 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:58 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 04:56 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:54 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 04:53 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:50 Skynx wrote:
None of what happened so far is AI guys please... Then do something that will make AI posts happen. What is the point of sitting around and complaining that people are making early reads exactly? What is the point of spamming bunch of stuff that doesn't have anything to do with anything other than increasing postcount for people that are not here yet? To generate conversation so that the not-yet-here people have something constructive to add, of course. What is your strategy to find scum if we're doing a poor job of it? Add something constructive when i find opportunity to do so. Like I'm doing now, stopping you guys go overboard with surjective NAI stuff cuz it really means absolutely nothing what you guys accuse each other for in past few pages Oh wonderful, that means that you can tell us how my case on NU doesn't show scum-indicative behaviour Do you have any reads at all? I'm skeptical that you have no initial impressions at all. Here is what happened; Calix sr Exo (gif stuff) Exo sr Calix (doesn't like his push) Everyone sr Everyone (because all pushes are very surjective and doesn't mean anything and everyone is aware of that so might aswell sr the others) What you are asking right now makes sense in that regard as me suggesting you guys pushing NAI stuff on eachother means I should also sr you guys but its just not right and this is all really nothing productive in the end. Here is what happened: Skynx entered thread Skynx complained about unproductive content Skynx provided unproductive content What you are doing right now is worse than anything you've complained about, because you should be of the mindset that providing even more unproductive content would only make our situation worse, given your remarks. Last paragraph is the first thing that Foreman's posted that I really like. This begs the question... What do you object to in the preceding paragraph?
Nothing. It's a summary of Skynx's behaviour which anyone can do. Nothing to note there.
I used the intensifier 'really' to make it clear that I liked the concluding paragraph in particular.
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On November 03 2016 05:27 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 05:24 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 05:14 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 05:11 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 05:05 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 05:00 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:58 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 04:56 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:54 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 04:53 Calix wrote:
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Then do something that will make AI posts happen.
What is the point of sitting around and complaining that people are making early reads exactly? What is the point of spamming bunch of stuff that doesn't have anything to do with anything other than increasing postcount for people that are not here yet? To generate conversation so that the not-yet-here people have something constructive to add, of course. What is your strategy to find scum if we're doing a poor job of it? Add something constructive when i find opportunity to do so. Like I'm doing now, stopping you guys go overboard with surjective NAI stuff cuz it really means absolutely nothing what you guys accuse each other for in past few pages Oh wonderful, that means that you can tell us how my case on NU doesn't show scum-indicative behaviour Do you have any reads at all? I'm skeptical that you have no initial impressions at all. Here is what happened; Calix sr Exo (gif stuff) Exo sr Calix (doesn't like his push) Everyone sr Everyone (because all pushes are very surjective and doesn't mean anything and everyone is aware of that so might aswell sr the others) What you are asking right now makes sense in that regard as me suggesting you guys pushing NAI stuff on eachother means I should also sr you guys but its just not right and this is all really nothing productive in the end. Here is what happened: Skynx entered thread Skynx complained about unproductive content Skynx provided unproductive content What you are doing right now is worse than anything you've complained about, because you should be of the mindset that providing even more unproductive content would only make our situation worse, given your remarks. Last paragraph is the first thing that Foreman's posted that I really like. This begs the question... What do you object to in the preceding paragraph? Nothing. It's a summary of Skynx's behaviour which anyone can do. Nothing to note there. I used the intensifier 'really' to make it clear that I liked the concluding paragraph in particular.
I was just curious because the first set up the second, but your comment looked like you had a completely different take on the first which looked weird to me.
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Had a read through, albeit quick because I won't be on later until like 7pm and don't want to read through 40 pages in one sitting.
I agree that a lot of the stuff so far is NAI. I think ExO vs. Calix could be TvT and was blown out of proportion based off a gif.
However, I don't like this post. Who spends 4 lines discussing why the claimed VT? This is a super waste of a post.
On November 03 2016 03:29 ExO_ wrote:
Also to clarify why I'm claiming my VT role right now:
I'm getting it out the open right now. I think in a game this size trying to fake claim to get scum to target me would be a waste of time. So I'm letting everyone know now I don't have any abilities I cannot do anything at night and can only vote. You can choose to either believe me or not, but I'm telling the truth
I don't like this post. This comes off as scummy scummy buddy buddy
On November 03 2016 04:32 mahrgell wrote:gosh Calix, can we please stop post synced? Also after what I read from you last game I'm afraid of myself, if I share your thoughts... I don't want to be like you  Sorry.
I also don't think the theoretical discussion of anti-town vs. pro-scum has much use if it's kept theoretical.
Foreman completely writing off Calix basically because of one push is helping town at all. Seems like uber tunneling that never actually helps town. Don't see any post so far that screams scum SO hard that I wouldn't entertain the possibility that my read on someone was wrong. Seems a bit scummy to me, especially D1. I agree with Skynx that the votes so far have been really dumb and useless drama
Calix is a slight town read to me currently. I agreed that Skynx's posts were useless until he posted about the votes.
I'll be back in about three hours, keep posting away
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On November 03 2016 05:29 Foreman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 05:27 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 05:24 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 05:14 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 05:11 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 05:05 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 05:00 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:58 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 04:56 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:54 Skynx wrote:
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What is the point of spamming bunch of stuff that doesn't have anything to do with anything other than increasing postcount for people that are not here yet? To generate conversation so that the not-yet-here people have something constructive to add, of course. What is your strategy to find scum if we're doing a poor job of it? Add something constructive when i find opportunity to do so. Like I'm doing now, stopping you guys go overboard with surjective NAI stuff cuz it really means absolutely nothing what you guys accuse each other for in past few pages Oh wonderful, that means that you can tell us how my case on NU doesn't show scum-indicative behaviour Do you have any reads at all? I'm skeptical that you have no initial impressions at all. Here is what happened; Calix sr Exo (gif stuff) Exo sr Calix (doesn't like his push) Everyone sr Everyone (because all pushes are very surjective and doesn't mean anything and everyone is aware of that so might aswell sr the others) What you are asking right now makes sense in that regard as me suggesting you guys pushing NAI stuff on eachother means I should also sr you guys but its just not right and this is all really nothing productive in the end. Here is what happened: Skynx entered thread Skynx complained about unproductive content Skynx provided unproductive content What you are doing right now is worse than anything you've complained about, because you should be of the mindset that providing even more unproductive content would only make our situation worse, given your remarks. Last paragraph is the first thing that Foreman's posted that I really like. This begs the question... What do you object to in the preceding paragraph? Nothing. It's a summary of Skynx's behaviour which anyone can do. Nothing to note there. I used the intensifier 'really' to make it clear that I liked the concluding paragraph in particular. I was just curious because the first set up the second, but your comment looked like you had a completely different take on the first which looked weird to me.
Wonderful. Isn't it great to resolve things instead of stone-walling me because of a scum-read? 
Now that we're being more civil, care to:
A) Reiterate those points against me which you think I ignored?
B) Actually consider my NU case?
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On November 03 2016 03:29 Foreman wrote:
1) You are going after an easy target for not doing what they said they'd do (after they got some friction about it when they announced it, iirc?)
And since you never really addressed the following:
On November 03 2016 03:30 Foreman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 03:21 Calix wrote:
And as a side note, how is being tryhard a scum tell? Because you're looking for an excuse to accuse somebody of being scum where no scum motive is present.
Where is the scum motive in waffling over whether to post gifs or not?
Show me how doing that helps scum or admit your case was ridiculous and maybe can talk.
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On November 03 2016 03:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/nEreI9q.jpg)
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On November 03 2016 05:38 Foreman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 03:29 Foreman wrote:
1) You are going after an easy target for not doing what they said they'd do (after they got some friction about it when they announced it, iirc?) And since you never really addressed the following: Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 03:30 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 03:21 Calix wrote:
And as a side note, how is being tryhard a scum tell? Because you're looking for an excuse to accuse somebody of being scum where no scum motive is present. Where is the scum motive in waffling over whether to post gifs or not? Show me how doing that helps scum or admit your case was ridiculous and maybe can talk.
It wasn't a case though. I never said there was scum motivation. I have stated this on multiple occasions so people need to actually read my posts. I'm not repeating myself again.
All I did was ask "yo why did you change your posting style from X pre-game posting style that you said you were doing?". I think this is a perfectly reasonable question since he...changed his posting style AFTER receiving his role so thus it had a chance of yielding AI information.
He didn't waffle over it and I didn't say it was scummy. I said it was illogical which isn't the same thing as scum-motivated. It means that I don't get why he did it. (I still don't but the actual reasoning is completely irrelevant so I don't want ExO to answer now)
You also have to take into account that I considered his behaviour anti-town. I don't see the problem with questioning a player in that category within the first few posts. It's the best time to clear up such matters, no?
I hope that clears up everything.
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Oh ha! I'm back ^^
On November 03 2016 03:30 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 03:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 03 2016 03:26 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 03 2016 03:23 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:21 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Haiii guises, let us keep this atmosphere positive!
I agree with Mr. Foreman and Mr. ExO that Calix's push is not her greatest, and I also agree with Calix that ExO's defensive response looks scummy!
Foreman, may I ask you where you are coming from in terms of community? c: I'm not pushing ExO. That's being extremely generous. I never claimed that ExO was scummy, just illogical. I didn't even call him defensive. Where did you get that from? I said that. Your quote says "I agree WITH CALIX" which implies that I said "ExO being defensive is scummy" at some point. Clarify this now, please. I actually don't agree with the points you've made. ExO's defensive, that's as much as one can say on his subject. Offski. I for one do not like NU. His tone seems weird, he makes statements that are factually inaccurate/ putting words into my mouth and then retracts them when called out on them. I don't understand why. Given that he's just disappeared, I'll wait for a response before concluding anything for sure but he's giving me bad vibes at the moment.
Remember when you coached in that newbie game? I tried to be town's leader and create a positive atmosphere for everyone to participate. Yeah? Well, that's kind of what I'm trying to do here to. That's where the weird tone (It's even weird to me) comes from.
If you want me to reiterate/put in other words what I said early on, I'd say that I don't like your "tap" on ExO, and don't like neither ExO nor you.
I'll be obvious town, don't worry c:
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On November 03 2016 05:44 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 05:38 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 03:29 Foreman wrote:
1) You are going after an easy target for not doing what they said they'd do (after they got some friction about it when they announced it, iirc?) And since you never really addressed the following: On November 03 2016 03:30 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 03:21 Calix wrote:
And as a side note, how is being tryhard a scum tell? Because you're looking for an excuse to accuse somebody of being scum where no scum motive is present. Where is the scum motive in waffling over whether to post gifs or not? Show me how doing that helps scum or admit your case was ridiculous and maybe can talk. It wasn't a case though. I never said there was scum motivation. I have stated this on multiple occasions so people need to actually read my posts. I'm not repeating myself again.All I did was ask "yo why did you change your posting style from X pre-game posting style that you said you were doing?". I think this is a perfectly reasonable question since he...changed his posting style AFTER receiving his role so thus it had a chance of yielding AI information. He didn't waffle over it and I didn't say it was scummy. I said it was illogical which isn't the same thing as scum-motivated. It means that I don't get why he did it. (I still don't but the actual reasoning is completely irrelevant so I don't want ExO to answer now) You also have to take into account that I considered his behaviour anti-town. I don't see the problem with questioning a player in that category within the first few posts. It's the best time to clear up such matters, no? I hope that clears up everything.
Well it looked stinted as hell, like you were setting up for an easy target.
Where's this damning evidence against NU?
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On November 03 2016 03:54 mahrgell wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 03:30 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 03 2016 03:26 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 03 2016 03:23 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:21 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Haiii guises, let us keep this atmosphere positive!
I agree with Mr. Foreman and Mr. ExO that Calix's push is not her greatest, and I also agree with Calix that ExO's defensive response looks scummy!
Foreman, may I ask you where you are coming from in terms of community? c: I'm not pushing ExO. That's being extremely generous. I never claimed that ExO was scummy, just illogical. I didn't even call him defensive. Where did you get that from? I said that. Your quote says "I agree WITH CALIX" which implies that I said "ExO being defensive is scummy" at some point. Clarify this now, please. I actually don't agree with the points you've made. ExO's defensive, that's as much as one can say on his subject. Offski. I for one do not like NU. His tone seems weird, he makes statements that are factually inaccurate/ putting words into my mouth and then retracts them when called out on them. I don't understand why. Given that he's just disappeared, I'll wait for a response before concluding anything for sure but he's giving me bad vibes at the moment. Well 1) I share NU's interpretation of what happened. 2) I appreciate his call for civil communication, from what I read in Cruisetrip he could have also easily heated up the fire without it looking worse than his usual play. 3) But I also agree with you, that it is weird for him to "buddy" you, by pretending you were sharing his self made points. I don't think there is much reason for him to try to appease you.
3) I am not attempting to buddy Calix at all right now. You read CTM, you know how I interact with her when I town-read her.
I did not mean to pretend she shared my point on ExO nor did I mean to "appease" Calix. Such thing is impossible.
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On November 03 2016 05:48 Foreman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 05:44 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 05:38 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 03:29 Foreman wrote:
1) You are going after an easy target for not doing what they said they'd do (after they got some friction about it when they announced it, iirc?) And since you never really addressed the following: On November 03 2016 03:30 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 03:21 Calix wrote:
And as a side note, how is being tryhard a scum tell? Because you're looking for an excuse to accuse somebody of being scum where no scum motive is present. Where is the scum motive in waffling over whether to post gifs or not? Show me how doing that helps scum or admit your case was ridiculous and maybe can talk. It wasn't a case though. I never said there was scum motivation. I have stated this on multiple occasions so people need to actually read my posts. I'm not repeating myself again.All I did was ask "yo why did you change your posting style from X pre-game posting style that you said you were doing?". I think this is a perfectly reasonable question since he...changed his posting style AFTER receiving his role so thus it had a chance of yielding AI information. He didn't waffle over it and I didn't say it was scummy. I said it was illogical which isn't the same thing as scum-motivated. It means that I don't get why he did it. (I still don't but the actual reasoning is completely irrelevant so I don't want ExO to answer now) You also have to take into account that I considered his behaviour anti-town. I don't see the problem with questioning a player in that category within the first few posts. It's the best time to clear up such matters, no? I hope that clears up everything. Well it looked stinted as hell, like you were setting up for an easy target. Where's this damning evidence against NU?
In his filter...which you could have looked at irregardless of your read on me.
Alternatively, it's in my filter. You can skip over Page 1 of my filter because it's pre-game stuff.
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On November 03 2016 05:49 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 05:48 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 05:44 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 05:38 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 03:29 Foreman wrote:
1) You are going after an easy target for not doing what they said they'd do (after they got some friction about it when they announced it, iirc?) And since you never really addressed the following: On November 03 2016 03:30 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 03:21 Calix wrote:
And as a side note, how is being tryhard a scum tell? Because you're looking for an excuse to accuse somebody of being scum where no scum motive is present. Where is the scum motive in waffling over whether to post gifs or not? Show me how doing that helps scum or admit your case was ridiculous and maybe can talk. It wasn't a case though. I never said there was scum motivation. I have stated this on multiple occasions so people need to actually read my posts. I'm not repeating myself again.All I did was ask "yo why did you change your posting style from X pre-game posting style that you said you were doing?". I think this is a perfectly reasonable question since he...changed his posting style AFTER receiving his role so thus it had a chance of yielding AI information. He didn't waffle over it and I didn't say it was scummy. I said it was illogical which isn't the same thing as scum-motivated. It means that I don't get why he did it. (I still don't but the actual reasoning is completely irrelevant so I don't want ExO to answer now) You also have to take into account that I considered his behaviour anti-town. I don't see the problem with questioning a player in that category within the first few posts. It's the best time to clear up such matters, no? I hope that clears up everything. Well it looked stinted as hell, like you were setting up for an easy target. Where's this damning evidence against NU? In his filter...which you could have looked at irregardless of your read on me. Alternatively, it's in my filter. You can skip over Page 1 of my filter because it's pre-game stuff.
I don't share your interpretation of his post.
"I said that" looks to me as if he's saying "no, I'm saying he's scummy"to what you simply referred to as illogical, as in he seems to equivocate logical fallacy with scumminess.
If I'm wrong, so be it... but I don't think I am.
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On November 03 2016 05:54 Foreman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 05:49 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 05:48 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 05:44 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 05:38 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 03:29 Foreman wrote:
1) You are going after an easy target for not doing what they said they'd do (after they got some friction about it when they announced it, iirc?) And since you never really addressed the following: On November 03 2016 03:30 Foreman wrote:On November 03 2016 03:21 Calix wrote:
And as a side note, how is being tryhard a scum tell? Because you're looking for an excuse to accuse somebody of being scum where no scum motive is present. Where is the scum motive in waffling over whether to post gifs or not? Show me how doing that helps scum or admit your case was ridiculous and maybe can talk. It wasn't a case though. I never said there was scum motivation. I have stated this on multiple occasions so people need to actually read my posts. I'm not repeating myself again.All I did was ask "yo why did you change your posting style from X pre-game posting style that you said you were doing?". I think this is a perfectly reasonable question since he...changed his posting style AFTER receiving his role so thus it had a chance of yielding AI information. He didn't waffle over it and I didn't say it was scummy. I said it was illogical which isn't the same thing as scum-motivated. It means that I don't get why he did it. (I still don't but the actual reasoning is completely irrelevant so I don't want ExO to answer now) You also have to take into account that I considered his behaviour anti-town. I don't see the problem with questioning a player in that category within the first few posts. It's the best time to clear up such matters, no? I hope that clears up everything. Well it looked stinted as hell, like you were setting up for an easy target. Where's this damning evidence against NU? In his filter...which you could have looked at irregardless of your read on me. Alternatively, it's in my filter. You can skip over Page 1 of my filter because it's pre-game stuff. I don't share your interpretation of his post. "I said that" looks to me as if he's saying "no, I'm saying he's scummy"to what you simply referred to as illogical, as in he seems to equivocate logical fallacy with scumminess. If I'm wrong, so be it... but I don't think I am.
Are you referring to ExO or NU? I am assuming the former here.
Your post is confusing and I don't understand how you reached...whatever it is that you concluded.
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@NU I'm fine with that explanation. I agree with Calix that the way you worded it, you put those words in his mouth and agreed with them. Then again, I guess we can file this under misunderstanding for now. And I generally appreciate your stated goal to make things more civil. So continue doing so.
How is your opinion on what happened in your afk time?
How you judge Foreman, Exo, Calix, Skynx? darthfoley had only one post, not sure you would want to read anything.
And well... if you have questions for me... fire away.
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