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On November 28 2016 06:29 Shapelog wrote:
If there are snacks I will /confirm.

Are there snacks?

On November 28 2016 12:05 Tictock wrote:


You clearly wanted to play a game man, go for it.

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On November 29 2016 07:17 Onegu wrote:
I claimed town but how do you know SL is town as he didnt say he was town yet. And it takes more than 2 to party therefore your claim is false.

#logic

#vote: emperorchampion

On November 29 2016 07:22 Onegu wrote:
country songs dont count they think their cousin is wife material... How can you believe anything they say?

On November 29 2016 07:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways EC do you agree that Onegu's vote on you seem like he was joking around or do you think he was being serious and why?

On November 29 2016 08:23 Onegu wrote:
Where is everyone?

On November 29 2016 08:29 LightningStrike wrote:

Onegu just hates LoL because he's a dota 2 player that's all lol.

On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.

On November 29 2016 11:07 Shapelog wrote:

Racist....and a bit songist

Gosh your Canadian, does your national anthem not tell you anything?

On November 29 2016 09:34 NeverUnlucky wrote:

Your awesome bro LS is the one who looks like he has a knife stuck in the butt.

Look at his entry:

He felt the need to summarize the 10 posts that were made prior to him posting, and I can't think of another reason why he would precise that it is his first game in a while after the game started other than giving an excuse to his rustiness.

That looks forced.

On November 29 2016 09:54 NeverUnlucky wrote:

Ehhhh, not quite the same vibe.

Your quoted post's tone is what makes it fucking mafia. You're acting all nicey-nice with the "Hey guys" and "what up" and giving an excuse for why you weren't there with the busy part. Onegu's post is not that. I don't think mafia would have made this post this early cus they would profit from inactivity and do not care about it.

Also, no, I have not read any of your games.

On November 29 2016 13:08 LightningStrike wrote:
EC I seen you made some posts on NU is your conclusion on him so far is that you think he's scum? That what I getting from your posts on him.

On November 29 2016 13:37 Shapelog wrote:
Oh my Canadian friend, you posted about the right thing.

I get 1, and I think we both came to that conclusion. Can you explain 2) a bit more? Personally, I can understand the point he made, and it didn't feel like he was painting in.

1) He's talking about Onegu wanting more activity to happen and trying to cause more to happen. It was the "where is everyone" post. Personally opionons aside, do you think he could come to this conclusion based off his reasoning?

2) What do you make about my earlier post about LS tone?

On November 30 2016 02:22 emperorchampion wrote:
NU probably town. LS don't really like trying to set up mafia between NU and I. TT haven't really liked from the get go. mahrgell's got this mix of above average content, lots of questions, pressure on incorrect target that's raising some flags for me. That's where I'm at right now. There are a ton of questions for me that I may answer at some point, largely related to NU I imagine, but that guy is town for now.

On November 30 2016 02:17 Tictock wrote:


You actually kinda hit the nail on the head already.

Started a new job and haven't really been in the mafia mood. Phone posting from work right now in fact.

Only thing that has jumped out to me is HF's push on gell, but based on history that prob means he is town.

If I had to vote right now I'd probably just flip a coin between Emp and SL as they have not evoked any towny vibes imo.

On November 30 2016 02:39 Shapelog wrote:

What has made NU town for you now?

Also, you think LS is setting up to act like there is mafia between you and NU?

On November 30 2016 03:59 Shapelog wrote:
EC do you think LS is town?

On November 30 2016 04:20 Shapelog wrote:


You said LS is setting up (as in, trying to paint) one of you and EC to be scum, which implies you think he is scum (as town would not set up that kinda of stuff). Yet, you had him in a list of town, and now saying he is most likely town.

On November 30 2016 04:31 Shapelog wrote:

Ok, my problem is your read progression and understanding it.

Why do you think he is now misguided town considering how you were against him before?

On November 30 2016 05:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Damn I thought you did that you wanted to talk to people. So thoughts on HF?

On November 30 2016 05:34 LightningStrike wrote:

If anyone NU? Read my earlier why I could see NU could be scum.

On November 30 2016 06:00 Rels wrote:
yo

On November 30 2016 07:05 Rels wrote:

Which are those ?

On November 30 2016 07:33 Rels wrote:
I think SL is town

On November 30 2016 12:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:

I don't quite understand 1) :3 But I did not filter checkm8 when I did that post. The first quote was directly directed to me, so it was fresh in my mind, and the second one was made while I was online, so I made the connection.


Yeh, I figured that, I was asking why that is.

On November 30 2016 13:02 NeverUnlucky wrote:

I'm up to date, I was thinking of filtering SL before heading to bed (in 15-20 minutes).

On November 30 2016 15:14 Checkm8 wrote:


pls do ask

On November 30 2016 15:35 emperorchampion wrote:
@TT you seriously think both NU and I could be scum?

On November 30 2016 16:02 sicklucker wrote:
pretty sure I cant be scum since everyone whos likely scum thinks im scum.

Darthfoley
mahgr
never
maybe emp

On December 01 2016 01:01 emperorchampion wrote:
ughghg I just don't know about you man. Your case on sl leaves me unconvinced because you are basically suspecting him for troll posts.

I think maybe TT is the top lynch. Thinking about it after sleep, his big post has sooo many inconsistencies.

On November 30 2016 15:21 Tictock wrote:
Rels - Feels a lot like last game joining a bit late but just dropping thoughts as he has them. His "Ok NVM" posts support that he is just saying what he thinks as he thinks it, not trying to construct stuff. Very likely town.

Holyflare - I don't agree with much of what HF said about gell, but it feels in line with stuff he's pushed before. To restate: I disagree with his reasoning to scumread mahrgell but it's not unlike pushes I've seen from town!HF before. There are a couple posts I feel could fall into DMA + Show Spoiler +, #453, #494, #507. So I'm tempted to townlean HF, however I'm not convinced any of this is outside his mafia wheelhouse so it's just a weak lean for now. In fact thinking about it more there are similarities to his push on gell and how he pushed me in (I think?) his last scum game. He was also fairly lackluster D1 in that game until he pushed for shenanigans onto Rels at EoD. Guess I'm pretty null/conflicted on HF.

Shapelog - I'm suprised how straightforward Shape is being this game honestly. Sure he threw out the cop WIFOM right off but that was pretty much the only time he hasn't been fairly serious this game. I'd be more worried about it if I didn't feel like I could see where he is coming from generaly and liked a few of the points he's been making. The one thing that stood out as strange to me was his NU read in #403
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Onegu - Flipping my read from earlier. I gave Onegu some credit for doing some stuff right off and seeming like he was involved. Skimming his filter now I find basically nothing with real content in it. Seems like he burnt up a bunch of energy right at the start posting a bunch but now that there is stuff to actually discuss has dropped off. Would be someone to re-evaluate closer to EoD is I have time.

LightningStrike - Kinda a lazy read but LS just feels tonally on point to me and has been pretty involved. I'd imagine him having a harder time being this comfortable rolling scum after such a long absence from playing.

darthfoley - Pretty meh over his filter. I can kinda see where he is coming from at times, but I dislike how he dropped Shape from a townread to null just kus Rels asked him about it. I was going to call his vote on HF opportunistic, but he did mention not liking HF in an earlier post. I think I just need to see more from Darth to get a better read, I do recall him being a bit like this last game as well.

Koshi - Like I said before I see no reason for him to take a step back from his scumread on me like he did if he were mafia. I also imagine he'd be way more burnt out rolling scum for the 5th game in a row. Sure he'd play to win still, but what I've seen is a fair bit above what mafia would need to be doing at this point in the game.

Checkm8 - Not much to go on, and yea as others have mentioned he's overplayed the newb card. His one post of content felt legit. Idk, gut says town.

mahrgell - Feels a lot like what I recall from last game and pretty tonally on point as well. I also liked his reactions to HF's pressure (possibly another DMA) and while I get his big reads post feeling a bit lackluster it also reads to me like his legit thoughts at the time. Fairly strong townlean here.

emperorchampion - I honestly have no clue where Emp's head is at this game. Starts off some pressure on NU then does a 180 with no explanation and is now back to scumreading him. This post in particular stands out to me.

This is where he 180's on NU, throws shade on LS for suggesting there is mafia between himself and NU (which is odd since he had also thought NU was sus a few posts before), doesn't like me, and the stuff about gell is almost litterally word vomit. Feels like a scatter shot post flinging shit and seeing what might stick.

I really did try to find something redeeming in his filter that might make Emp town, but I came up with nothin.

sicklucker - pretty dam null, nothing stood out to me either way

NeverUnlucky - Reading through the game I kinda felt like NU is a lot more held back than I have ever seen him. I liked his point in #285 in response to Koshi. Other than that though I'm really not following his reads, and especially his pushes. Kinda a shame NU was last on the list, I feel like I need to be more awake to make a better read here. Leaving him as a scum read kus something feels off about him in my gut.

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##Vote: emperorchampion

Seems like the best option to me. I have an odd feeling that the Emp vs NU stuff so far has actually been Mafia on Mafia. NU has actually said very little about Emp despite being one of his scumreads and Emp's read on NU has been a bit all over the place. Their interactions are also pretty tame for two people scum reading one another as well. I might be hitting the tinfoil a bit here though.

I really did try to find something redeeming in his filter that might make Emp town, but I came up with nothin.

On December 01 2016 01:59 mahrgell wrote:
@emp
Interesting read. I guess I will look into it myself again.

You say TT is your toplynch, but NU is still scummy for you? Given where the votes are now, do you want to "rescue" NU by directing the lynch at TT? Or keep it going and keep TT as your toplynch for tomorrow?

On November 30 2016 23:40 Koshi wrote:

It is somewhat annoying that the list shuffles so much but that's life.

On December 01 2016 03:12 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Though I don't get how he can dedicate such thorough analysis on TT his scum-read and vote me because my actions make him feel uneasy.

On December 01 2016 04:05 emperorchampion wrote:
I don't know what happened on my walk to the office.

I think we go NU -> Onegu -> ? .

On December 01 2016 04:14 Koshi wrote:
The only other person except NU I am willing to vote for is Onegu.

I am not interested in anything else D1.
I will lurk the thread, you can ask me questions, I am not doing shit anymore actively though.

On December 01 2016 04:16 darthfoley wrote:


Can you explain why TT is out of your equation if you think emperors posts on him were really good and you've been scum reading him forever??

On December 01 2016 04:20 NeverUnlucky wrote:

His list IS YOUR LIST. His stances are easy everywhere, just read my post, it shows him scum-reading all the inactive and trolly players and not being able to commit a read on LS me and mahr.

When am I ever not defensive as fuck?

You wrote your case on me when I was not around. You said that Rels is likely to be mafia when he was not around.

I am not the one who is getting outplayed here if he is mafia, you are the one to TR him. Shame. SHame. Shame.

On December 01 2016 04:35 darthfoley wrote:
I don't like how HF/Checkm8//Rels/Shapelog etc have peaced out why is anyone townreading Checkm8? This man has been MIA for four years.

Is this basically going to be a decision between NU vs. Onegu?

Always get nervous when half the town disappears as the wagon forms. Meh paranoia.

On December 01 2016 05:08 Holyflare wrote:
I think I'm just wifoming myself out of reads though because it looks kind of straightforward otherwise.

On December 01 2016 05:13 darthfoley wrote:
I'm willing to vote for NU ATM if there aren't really viable trains on TT or sicklucker because of the promise of a treasure trove of info for the town. Can someone sell me on what info will be gleaned and why NU is the guy to gain that info from? Cuz there's been lots and back of forth on his alignment?

On December 01 2016 05:37 darthfoley wrote:
Well I haven't had the time to properly look at his filter. Have some free time so i'll look at the case against him. The only thing that comes to mind is that both NU and Onegu pushed back on your TT case pretty hard. Considering that I found your case compelling, I was interested to hear their criticisms. I didn't like Onegu's particularly

However i'm really fucking confused with this game. You're telling me to vote for scum not for info yet you've parked your wagon on the person you didn't properly case and that you've been waffling on. You've made multiple points about how TT likely mafia but i'm the one pushing a TT train, and you haven't joined on, even after posting this



I feel like there's something so off about today. Especially the inactivity for many players. I just don't know what it is

On December 01 2016 05:48 mahrgell wrote:
Also quick thought on this activity nightmare:
If it was nobody posting, but everyone parking his vote, I would usually be inclined to feel like it is scum who are just happy about a coming ml and let the game die out.
This game is different. It is actually people not voting. Idk if they are simply not online and really set an alarm for minutes before deadline... Or if they are lurking and waiting. Chances are theres some lurkers amongst those. And this feels more like scum waiting if any non-NU train is realizing, then quickly jumping in, voting it, saving a mate, and later play the "I was not able to to fully read everything and had to gut feel vote, sorry, went wrong"

On December 01 2016 06:01 Holyflare wrote:


You just wrote who I'm voting for, nobody.

On December 01 2016 06:13 Rels wrote:
HF if you're town I'm fucking disapointed

On December 01 2016 06:23 Rels wrote:
HF fighting arguments to the end like that is him being scum. It is convincing but doesn't make sense. There is no game sense here.
Me not saing I like one post of marghell while catching up means nothing. Me being undecisive about margh because he did some bad and some good means nothing.

On December 01 2016 06:25 Rels wrote:

?

On December 01 2016 06:26 Rels wrote:

Nope I think I'm OK with a NU lynch. Starting to reread both of their filters to see if I wanna fight for HF over NU or not.

On December 01 2016 06:30 Koshi wrote:
What Rels is doing makes no sense in mafia POV.

Either NU is mafia and he gets himself lynched.
Either NU is town and he gets himself lynched.


Like it's not like he tries to divert to lynch onto somebody else in a sneaky way or something. Or put shit on somebody based on preflip association with NU.

On December 01 2016 06:34 Onegu wrote:
IM here

On December 01 2016 06:43 Onegu wrote:



##Unvote

##Vote EmperorChampion

Looks like my current options are NU or Myself. Dont like those choices. And no one will sheep my Koshi vote yet...

On December 01 2016 06:48 Onegu wrote:



HF
TT
SL
Darthfolly

the next group is like

NU
LS
Shape.

On December 01 2016 06:52 Onegu wrote:



Again I dont have to agree with their reads to town read them.

I wont like I am curious in a NU flip, but I dont want to vote with Koshi. Lets put it this way if NU flips town I will never get off koshi. If he flips red I will more than likely have to revisit my Koshi read.

On December 01 2016 07:06 Koshi wrote:
RIP UN.


So about this MVP award...

On December 01 2016 07:10 darthfoley wrote:
And three people didn't vote. Demotivated maf?

On December 01 2016 07:19 Onegu wrote:
before I lay back down

Once More:

Hell Froze Over

An adventure tale where Onegu shows off his superior intellect to the lowly Holyflare

On December 01 2016 07:25 LightningStrike wrote:
I just done with my tests I had to take outside of class catching up now.

On December 01 2016 07:22 Koshi wrote:

EC is now pretty much confirmed town till lylo.
mahrgell played really throught the entire game. Almost impossible mafia due to play.
Checkm8 is pretty low on the list due to townie posts and being on NU quite early. But is not confirmed at all. Will rise up if he slacks too much.
LS I still like for town. He read town early game. He just fell off a bit.
I don't think Shape his initial post on NU was a buss. I will need to reread.

HF is a bit controversial/combative about things I don't really think he should be combative about. Will be hard to lynch this guy. The good news is I should be the doc target so HF can die to mafia KP.
Rels should play D2 way more active than his D1. null.

TT I feel could be town somhow, but took the wrong decision when he voted EC over NU. That is a BIG problem for me. BIG BIG problem.
darthfoley showed face. All these posts about who is not voting and people who are mia upset me a lot.
sicklucker I think is mafia. But he could not be mafia. But I think he is mafia. Come out to play sl.
Onegu is mafia.

On December 01 2016 07:39 Koshi wrote:
Reading NU his posts LS seems spewed town. Onegu probably as well, not as much as LS but it is close.

TT isn't. He could be anything. NU only touched him a little bit and it was very prudent. I can see them being buddies.
darthfoley comes out extremely bad as well with that unwarranted out of nowhere townread. I think somebody else before also gave darthfoley a townread out of nowhere in a list. If that is true, it looks really bad for him, because I can see mafia NU taking over that read as it pushes his agenda.

NU his push on sicklucker is interesting. I can see sicklucker bussing NU for that stunt.


Hmm page 3 and 4 are harder to take things out of. I think he figured out by then he might become the lynch. Conclusions taken out of those pages might be reaching.

On December 01 2016 16:11 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think df's recent posts look that bad.

On December 02 2016 00:33 Holyflare wrote:
Lol I really like the tmi thing.

On December 02 2016 01:36 mahrgell wrote:


LOL
If this is true, there is the possibility the game ends in few hours. Nobody is killed, because scum fails to vote a kill. Instead Shlog and CM8 get modkilled for failing to post, after being already warned for failing to vote. Game ends, 0 town lost.

Just thinking about this possibility kills my motivation to do my last 2 filter dives. -.-

On December 02 2016 02:05 Tictock wrote:
Humm in my PoV this game is basically solvable just by PoE now.

Lynch through Shape,Ch8, SL. If that doesn't do it then there is mafia in darth/Onegu.

On December 02 2016 02:16 mahrgell wrote:


I am fully aware.
But my last game, I died N1, but the game ended D2, because one scum went inactive and got modkilled, and the other one was an easylynch D2 without defending himself.
I thought it can't be shorter. So I'm just tinfoiling a possibility how it can be shorter in this game. I don't think (and hope) this is gonna happen but while the idea is demotivating I still enjoy it, if you know what I mean :D

On December 02 2016 02:20 darthfoley wrote:
Reposting this top of page because i'm an attention whore

A few other points worth nothing:

I knew my vote on NU near the deadline wasn't going to get me town-cred either way, but I wanted to solidify the wagon so the vote couldn't be influenced by 3 non-voters coming back <30 min before deadline and doing shenanigans. Also voted for NU because that one post about "it's a great case, you're right :/" was so fucking different from the last game I played with town!NU that I was comfortable voting for him.

That response, especially given his flip leads me to believe one of two hypotheses: he intentionally tried to keep the only viable train on himself so at least one partner could gain much needed town-cred through EoD. This is ESPECIALLY true considering NU was the framer and it's 11v2 EoD1! You need to make sure at least one of your partners will not be cop checked for at least a few nights, so at least one of your partners needs to gain enough town-cred through your death that he will never be a cop check until D3/D4.

The other, more lazy, scenario is that both of his mafia partners were inactive EoD (e.g. Shapelog/Checkm8) and he didn't care enough to set up anything because of how shit his teammates were being.

On December 02 2016 07:49 Tictock wrote:


I'm kinda assuming it's setup #3 with a flipped Framer and Cop. Maybe JK decided he had a better TR on someone else, also possibly got RB'd.

On December 02 2016 10:04 darthfoley wrote:


I've said for a while it's probably Shapelog or Checkm8 + one active town

On December 02 2016 10:10 sicklucker wrote:
Heres why hf would not nk koshi. Hf is a very good scum player right? and hes not really scumread by very many people in this game.

So theres no reason for him to take an insane risk and target someone whos gonna be protected like 50-70% of the time thats insane for him. Hes in a good position to win this game as scum. There is 0 reason he would do this as scum zero.

Who would do this nk as scum? Well the simple answer is people who suck. People who are losing getting rape. People who have zero confidence in winning the game without getting really lucky and dodging a save. This is not holyflares mo.

This is darth/shapelog/check new player or less confident type of players that make this nk.
Holyflare is too cocky and good to make this nightkill.

He was acualy right when he said this nk makes him confirm town. Damn you holyflare

On December 02 2016 10:19 sicklucker wrote:


Koshi covering part of why I thought darth and nu were partners.

This was pre flip people. Then nu acualy flipped mafia. Logic says we keep listening to my reads and kill who I thought was his partner before he even fucking flipped

On December 02 2016 10:18 darthfoley wrote:


Did you read my post discussing Shapelog's opinion of NU and how bad it was? If so, you disagree with me? My main point on Shapelog was not his AFK'ness. That was only a minor component

On December 02 2016 10:27 sicklucker wrote:
even darth knows how bad he looks and begs for a cop check. which may or may not make him the godfather

On December 02 2016 10:38 darthfoley wrote:
Nope. I would've Nk'd Holyflare for specific reasons.

On December 02 2016 10:43 emperorchampion wrote:
TT arguably also a tier below the other 4.

On December 01 2016 11:49 Tictock wrote:
In regards to Emp's case on me. I just don't think like that at all, just because I think someone is town doesn't mean they have good reads. I also have no issue voting with someone I think is mafia because I can be wrong just as easily as anyone else. D1 is an especially bad time to try and use that kind of thinking imo kus there are too many moving pieces and reads can change so easily. I'm also not the type to sheep people, I will vote who I think is mafia even if it means I'm throwing my vote away (though I have gotten a bit better about consolidating).

On December 02 2016 16:11 Shapelog wrote:
Can someone explain to me the reasoning behind that I am with Cm8 in the mafia teams btw?


I've caught up in the snese of reading the thread. Later today (2 am rn) I will have a read list. I've gone through check8 filter (to try and understand shape + ch8 team idea) NU Filter (see last post) and half of Koshi filter. I've skimed Darth and LS filter as well.

On December 02 2016 16:14 Holyflare wrote:
Also, df is 100% town. There's no way I basically claim blue like 6 times and he doesn't kill me over koshi.

On December 02 2016 16:29 Shapelog wrote:
Talk to me Ec.

Ask me questions that I might have the answer to. Too tired to filter. Too awake to sleep.

On December 02 2016 16:30 Holyflare wrote:


I don't see how it's silly in the slightest. The dude is the only one in the game to notice I claimed blue. I'm not dead. To add to why I already thought he was town this is just gravy.

Where's the problem?

On December 02 2016 16:36 darthfoley wrote:


Don't think this applies to my case. HF blue claimed like 5 times and I spotted it instantly. He would've been my NK 1000%. Surprised no one else seemed to catch on to this trend. (i'm aware it's wifom)






Killing HF is a good medic dodge cuz people were sus of him and he claimed blue. I know it's WIFOM but why wouldn't you take the chance as mafia?

On December 02 2016 17:18 Tictock wrote:
Meh that's kinda pointless discussion though.

Let's assume for a moment that we can't lynch either of Shape or CM8 today. Who would you guys want to lynch?

I think I'd be happy with SL and an outside chance of Onegu.

On December 02 2016 21:22 mahrgell wrote:

If I would have to summarize his posts quickly it would be:
- shits up the thread and makes no sense
- intentionally makes reads out of thin air and for false reasons
- the timing of his entry was completely off
- his "explanation" of his D1/N1 play or the lack there of is... bad.

On December 03 2016 06:58 darthfoley wrote:
l0L i'm actually going to a smash tournament tonight but I should be back by 9-10PM EST

On December 04 2016 04:45 LightningStrike wrote:
EC why you voting Check he not getting lynched today. More likely he will be modkilled. Sicklucker we not lynching darth either today so idk why you guys wasting your votes.

On December 04 2016 04:57 Rels wrote:

He said he would catch up when waking up.

On December 05 2016 00:51 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not waiting I'm just waiting for ikea to turn up.

On December 04 2016 12:48 darthfoley wrote:


Why are you so high on mahrgell and HF?

On December 05 2016 00:41 mahrgell wrote:
Hm... so has everyone agreed we wait for EoN and go from there?

Like I have a billion tinfoils in my head right now, but I'm not even sure those should be discussed before the EoN.

Also I really understand now, why people have trouble with white sheets like Onegu in the later stages of the game...


Anyway, if anyone has some chat topic, I will be around.

On December 04 2016 23:32 mahrgell wrote:

Hnnn? Why?
Is there something I missed? Or did you suspect him to be blue all the time?

On December 05 2016 07:03 mahrgell wrote:
Like I'm sitting here... and I'm puzzled...

On December 05 2016 07:06 Tictock wrote:
Can I make a suggestion?

Can we actually not discuss any claims today?

I'd really like that.

On December 05 2016 07:08 Rels wrote:

What is there to explain ?

On December 05 2016 07:10 mahrgell wrote:


Make up your mind if we are discussing claims or not.

On December 05 2016 07:11 Rels wrote:

That might be a good idea actually. If we ever kill the other scum the game is over

On December 05 2016 07:19 mahrgell wrote:


If you are JK and not Scum, you are dead next night.

On December 05 2016 08:11 Holyflare wrote:


Both the nks were terrible.

On December 05 2016 10:18 darthfoley wrote:


what does this information give you besides a confirmed kill tomorrow night?

On December 05 2016 10:30 darthfoley wrote:



Interesting that all three people who did not cast a D1 vote are now dead and were all town. This mean that there were three mafia votes nestled in there somewhere. We know of one: NU voted for EC.

On the surface, I have a hard time believing NU was super bussed and both mafia partners voted on him. I also doubt neither mafia voted for him. Both those scenarios seem too clean. Considering how few alternative lynch trains there were D1, I guess that it's more likely both mafia voted for NU? I think the only lynch train that got 3 or more votes concurrently was HolyFlare, which Rels and I voted for.

Onegu voted with NU on EC
HolyFlare and Rels traded votes. This mafia team would suck to play against.

TT, mahrgell, EC, SL, I all voted NU. Hmmmmmm

On December 05 2016 10:36 darthfoley wrote:


IDK it was kind of thinking out loud. I noticed the same Rels HF issue you did. I remember the HF votes came within like 20 minutes of each other bang bang bang (Koshi Rels Me) and I wonder how viable that lynch seemed at the time. I think I could see scum!Rels being vote #2 there and trying to make it a viable lynch. I really want to hear his response to your question

On December 05 2016 10:55 darthfoley wrote:


Honestly, I need to look through his filter and look at connections. His NU spew posts should give some good detail into this. Playing IRL mafia with friends tonight, but if the bastards N0 kill me, i'll probably filter dive Rels... or work on a 15 page filter. Nah, probably filter dive Rels

On December 05 2016 13:07 Tictock wrote:
Emp what makes HF confirmed town for you?

On December 05 2016 13:40 Tictock wrote:
Ok I apparently did not read the game properly while I was out. I missed some posts from Rels and need to reread some stuff.

@Emp
Assuming he was JK'd it doesn't really prove anything about his alignment.

On December 06 2016 02:01 sicklucker wrote:
I still think hf is a lock town but its laughable how wrong hes been about everything this game. which is probably a reason to think hes town ec

On December 06 2016 02:51 mahrgell wrote:


Game has ended? Didn't notice it. Shouldn't actually exactly your mindset ring some bells? If this is really what is happening here... then wouldn't mafia finally do something? Or are they maybe not doing anything... Because town seems completely wrong?

As mentioned earlier by IDK who... LS was either an attempted bluesnipe... or a blend kill.

On December 06 2016 03:00 mahrgell wrote:


Not sure if you are reading the thread, but I don't have the feeling you are confirmed town for everyone here...

Uhm... I havent seen anyone townlock me either, given the flak I'm getting here... And your reasoning on townlocking me so far has been "activity and tries to solve the game".

And why was LS townconfirmed? Only because of the NU spew? Not sure he was really a toptown at that moment either... There was a lot of WIFOM to pull on him...

On December 06 2016 03:26 Holyflare wrote:
Emperor what do you make of all the claims? Take a stance bro.

On December 06 2016 03:54 Holyflare wrote:


If
You
Think
Sl
Is
Mafia
I'm
Confirmed
Town

On December 06 2016 03:56 Holyflare wrote:
No.

Look at this.

Sl = mafia fake claiming jk, never in a million years does he send kp. Jk rels blocks me. I'm confirmed town.

Deal with it.

On December 06 2016 03:59 mahrgell wrote:
Before I post my current idea on Emp, one question:
@night... Did you think SL was JK 100%? Or did you think he could be VT or scum? Like looking back, what percentage you would give each option there?

On December 06 2016 06:42 Tictock wrote:


This is such a mafia post, you don't call out someone fake claiming with 0 Town intent then imply they are gunna flip green.

Starting to buy the world of Emp/SL here.

If we can be sure Onegu is town then you guys can even lynch between me/Emp/SL.

I'm not sure I can buy Gell or Darth being scum. I could see HF maybe still, but I can follow his train of thought pretty well today. Besides half my read on him is just paranoia.

With Rels being JK I think you guys should be forming a town circle between Rels/Gell/Darth and trying to rule out mafia from there.

On December 06 2016 06:29 darthfoley wrote:


Just want to bring this post back for posterity. RIP Koshi. The tinfoil in me can't understand why HF hasn't been targeted yet. He's my hardest town read atm but wah this is potentially troublesome. He should be the kill after the JK dies, if we get to that stage.

The other tinfoil in me thinks that mahrgell has gone above and beyond his usual WoT posts that are almost always directed at HF. This almost has the feel of a Shapelog scum filter from that newbie game he won by just spamming WoT-towny enough-30 page filter. I'm also uneasy about how much waffling he is doing regarding sicklucker. Reminds me of his stance (iirc) of the Shapelog lynch where he waffled all day then threw a "conscience" vote on sl that was pretty meaningless. I know i'm tinfoiling rather committedly here but it's something to keep in mind. Especially since LS died. He has said some things that i've been thinking though meh. Definitely not the lynch today.

For everyone saying scum!sl doesn't have motive to fake claim JK... uhhh yea he does. Lynch was most likely going to be him so he does a 1v1 trade and (almost) ensures the JK to die next night. Sure it's a little risky, but if you're going to go down you might as well pull down the JK and eliminate all roles from the game. On the off chance that people somehow don't lynch scum!sl today, it's double beneficially because mafia can probably still kill JK + orchestrate a mislynch potentially. A scum JK fake claim early night also has the potential of a silly person like me or mahrgell to potentially be so excited to CC that we do it before the resolution phase and get killed for our troubles. I see plenty of scum rationale behind the fake claim during the night.

Gonna be salty that Onegu is jchillin if he's mafia because *under the radar*

Gonna read through HF's case on emp. Also thought HF/Rels point of TT not tinfoiling is a smart point I hadn't thought of.

Btw, I am + Show Spoiler + the jailkeeper

On December 06 2016 07:04 Tictock wrote:


Wtf, how did HF drop so much in your reads without you interacting with him this whole time?

On December 06 2016 07:11 emperorchampion wrote:


Reasoning that he was "town confirmed" was based on prior to sl rescinding his claim. My first thought that if one is mafia and claiming to jail HF, then he must be town. I know the reasoning was pretty bullshit, I believe that it was darth who actually first pointed it out.

On December 06 2016 07:11 darthfoley wrote:
I think it makes sense more from scum perspective not the other way around

On December 06 2016 07:10 Tictock wrote:


That last quate was me being snarky at Emps post because he was basically saying he thought I was Scum but was waiting for Onegu to case me.

Otherwise I've just been posting as I see fit and pushing Onegu to case me.

On December 06 2016 07:16 darthfoley wrote:
I'm confused to what your claiming.

I think SL is mafia and if that's the case HF has to be town. But I think he's town regardless

On December 06 2016 06:42 Tictock wrote:


This is such a mafia post, you don't call out someone fake claiming with 0 Town intent then imply they are gunna flip green.

Starting to buy the world of Emp/SL here.

If we can be sure Onegu is town then you guys can even lynch between me/Emp/SL.

I'm not sure I can buy Gell or Darth being scum. I could see HF maybe still, but I can follow his train of thought pretty well today. Besides half my read on him is just paranoia.

With Rels being JK I think you guys should be forming a town circle between Rels/Gell/Darth and trying to rule out mafia from there.

On December 06 2016 07:53 Tictock wrote:


So, like what are your actual thoughts on HF, why is he super scummy now?

On December 06 2016 07:57 Tictock wrote:


Right so I doesn't matter what you think of me, it's Onegu who decides what you think about me.

On December 06 2016 08:34 Tictock wrote:


Yea this is more or less my thoughts now that I'm caught up fully.

I really don't think Darth or Gell are mafia. HF is possible but unlikely. Rels is confirmed.

Onegu is absent. Emp is weird.

SL is flailing and seems like my best option to vote.

I'm willing to be the next lynch after SL kus if he flips mafia then I think Emp is his partner and that means I had pretty amazing reads on D1.

##Vote:Sicklucker

On December 06 2016 08:58 Tictock wrote:


Onegu probably.

On December 06 2016 03:46 emperorchampion wrote:


Right now my stance looks like this:

1. Rels
9. mahrgell
6. darthfoley
12. Tictock

2. Holyflare
4. Onegu

11. sicklucker

On December 06 2016 09:01 Tictock wrote:


Since you said you think SL is town do you think mafia is Myself/HF?

On December 06 2016 09:03 emperorchampion wrote:


Nah I'm more mafia on than town for sl right now. Really thinking about who else could be red though. My list is pretty much still as in my most previous post.

On December 06 2016 09:05 Tictock wrote:


I would have HF a little higher but yea that's not too different from my thinking.

How did you have me in a clearly town group there though yet feel like I could be scum if f Onegu made a good enough case on me though?

On December 04 2016 08:20 Tictock wrote:
Ehh just skimmed kus I saw people talking about a claim. I doubt SL is the JK since he put so much stock into Shape's claim having meaning. I feel like if he were blue he would be more paranoid about other people claiming blue.

Idk, I'll think about it more when I have time.

On December 06 2016 09:08 Tictock wrote:


Then why haven't you voted SL since I'm less suspicious than Onegu or HF but am the only other real option.