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NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-24 17:12:38
October 24 2016 17:11 GMT
#12
/in

Might want to disallow players to ask questions in game :3
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-25 21:37:38
October 25 2016 21:36 GMT
#23
On October 25 2016 23:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On October 25 2016 02:11 NeverUnlucky wrote:
/in

Might want to disallow players to ask questions in game :3

They are disallowed. You might want to read the OP this time :3

Under Ruleset -> Posting, you have a section reserved for questions players have for the hosts, implying that questions are allowed in-game.

You might want to read the OP this time.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 26 2016 14:25 GMT
#35
On October 26 2016 19:59 beentheredonethat wrote:
Also, I guess for the sake of mobile users we should spoiler our funny gifs.

That would be much appreciated.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 28 2016 17:59 GMT
#42
I'll spoil it for you: The site meta is to be wrong and to be an asshole about it.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 29 2016 11:41 GMT
#46
On October 29 2016 15:05 Foreman wrote:
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On October 29 2016 02:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I'll spoil it for you: The site meta is to be wrong and to be an asshole about it.


So, pretty much identical to MS?

Pretty much, except players actually have personalities down here.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-07 19:22:24
November 07 2016 18:36 GMT
#56
/out
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 10 2016 18:08 GMT
#91
Tentatively /in.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 17 2016 02:30 GMT
#117
/out
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 26 2016 14:27 GMT
#160
/in
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 27 2016 16:14 GMT
#172
/confirm

detached play
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 00:13 GMT
#266
I'm here. Game can start.

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"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 00:25 GMT
#276
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
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On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.

How so? I recognize myself in his all-over-the-place posts, and he's the townierest dude itt.

Also, this is a town post, mang
On November 29 2016 08:23 Onegu wrote:
Where is everyone?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 00:34 GMT
#279
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.

Your awesome bro LS is the one who looks like he has a knife stuck in the butt.

Look at his entry:
On November 29 2016 07:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey first game since my ban which was like 5-6 months ago? Anyways Onegu's vote on EC seems pretty him joking around but outside of that nothing notable has happened.

He felt the need to summarize the 10 posts that were made prior to him posting, and I can't think of another reason why he would precise that it is his first game in a while after the game started other than giving an excuse to his rustiness.

That looks forced.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 00:41 GMT
#285
On November 29 2016 09:33 Koshi wrote:
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On November 29 2016 09:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.

How so? I recognize myself in his all-over-the-place posts, and he's the townierest dude itt.

Also, this is a town post, mang
On November 29 2016 08:23 Onegu wrote:
Where is everyone?

1) The timing was possibly off.
2) That post is one of the reasons I don't like Onegu. Not that post on its own. But as a part of his posting. That post is tryhard as fuck so early in the game. I don't know when this game started. But that comment is too soon. Too dry. Meh.


We will see. I am not convinced. I am also not going to judge people on single posts this game. But Onegu is marked due to his early game in my pov.

Fair enough.

Though in regards to 2), wouldn't you say your earlier posts about how town'll play the game to be tryhard albeit a bit trollsome with the awesome part? They kindda set the tone for a tryhard game is what I'm trying to say.

On November 29 2016 09:29 LightningStrike wrote:
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On November 29 2016 09:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.

How so? I recognize myself in his all-over-the-place posts, and he's the townierest dude itt.

Also, this is a town post, mang
On November 29 2016 08:23 Onegu wrote:
Where is everyone?

Sorry to tell you this but scum can make that post you quoted that makes Onegu town hence it just a null comment.

"Scum can make [this type of posts]" can be said of any post. Unless you can quote a scummer saying this type of thing, my point stands.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 00:54 GMT
#300
On November 29 2016 09:46 LightningStrike wrote:
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On February 28 2016 03:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey guys I here now I was busy and now I here what up?

Bam this was me as scum doing that sort of thing Onegu did the quote you townread him for.

Ehhhh, not quite the same vibe.

Your quoted post's tone is what makes it fucking mafia. You're acting all nicey-nice with the "Hey guys" and "what up" and giving an excuse for why you weren't there with the busy part. Onegu's post is not that. I don't think mafia would have made this post this early cus they would profit from inactivity and do not care about it.

Also, no, I have not read any of your games.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 00:56 GMT
#304
On November 29 2016 09:52 mahrgell wrote:
Onegu seems to play the same style as NU did in NewbieMafia... Just spam nonsensical stuff, randomly bite somewhere and make it a pain for anyone who would ever consider reading his filter.

"nonsensical" stuff is how I read players along with tone :/
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 01:00 GMT
#306
On November 29 2016 09:55 mahrgell wrote:
As I mentioned NU: We need Calix as bone to check if he is on his usual "meta". So far his posts are way too readable.

Maybe he just improved his posting style though. He promised he would. Then again, he promised that at the beginning of Newbiemafia already ^.^

No, we do not need Calix. 1) she scum-read me at some point in my last two games (I was town), 2) I am not in any world going to play the same "meta" as I did in the past games. I promised I was not going to even discuss mod actions/confirms/etc, I will try not being toxic and not shitting up the thread like I used to do. That NU version you're talking about is dead. Good luck meta-reading me.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 01:00 GMT
#307
On November 29 2016 09:57 Koshi wrote:
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On November 29 2016 09:55 mahrgell wrote:
As I mentioned NU: We need Calix as bone to check if he is on his usual "meta". So far his posts are way too readable.

Maybe he just improved his posting style though. He promised he would. Then again, he promised that at the beginning of Newbiemafia already ^.^

NU his newbie game entrance was blatantly obvious mafia. And his townplay is way too invested compared to his mafia play. Will be an easy read if he keeps up playing and keeps activity up.

Not worried about reading him.

More worried about keeping him in check in case he is town. rofl.

wtf are you talking about
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 01:04 GMT
#312
On November 29 2016 10:01 mahrgell wrote:
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On November 29 2016 09:57 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 09:55 mahrgell wrote:
As I mentioned NU: We need Calix as bone to check if he is on his usual "meta". So far his posts are way too readable.

Maybe he just improved his posting style though. He promised he would. Then again, he promised that at the beginning of Newbiemafia already ^.^

NU his newbie game entrance was blatantly obvious mafia. And his townplay is way too invested compared to his mafia play. Will be an easy read if he keeps up playing and keeps activity up.

Not worried about reading him.

More worried about keeping him in check in case he is town. rofl.


In what game was NU mafia? I played Newbie with him, there he was spammy, disturbing and town.
And I read the game before from him (sorry, lost name.. too lazy to check), but there he was also town, but also busy with Calix TvT all the game.

Can you link me his scumgame? (Do I really want to read his former filters??? REALLY?)

I never rolled mafia on TL.

I really hope he didn't confuse me with Lunaticman. I'd be on the edge of pulling another temper tantrum...
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 01:20 GMT
#328
On November 29 2016 10:05 LightningStrike wrote:
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On November 29 2016 09:54 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 09:46 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 28 2016 03:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey guys I here now I was busy and now I here what up?

Bam this was me as scum doing that sort of thing Onegu did the quote you townread him for.

Ehhhh, not quite the same vibe.

Your quoted post's tone is what makes it fucking mafia. You're acting all nicey-nice with the "Hey guys" and "what up" and giving an excuse for why you weren't there with the busy part. Onegu's post is not that. I don't think mafia would have made this post this early cus they would profit from inactivity and do not care about it.

Also, no, I have not read any of your games.

All scum games:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike Goon Lynched D3 First Ever scum game
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/476732-jack-of-all-trades-mafia?user=LightningStrike Goon Survived N3 (won)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?user=LightningStrike Goon Lynched D2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486363-witchcraft-mini-mafia-iii?user=LightningStrike Witch Hunter Lynched D1
Some Town games:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499399-tl-mafia-lxxiii-the-nutcracker?user=LightningStrike Cop Survived D4
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?user=LightningStrike VT Survived D4
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494436-season-of-the-witch-2?user=LightningStrike Pope killed N3
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509751-names-are-hard-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike Wandering Townie Killed N5
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/507600-cap-tortoise-mafia?user=LightningStrike VT Killed N2 Best game for me.


I was not really asking for links. :3

On November 29 2016 10:05 Koshi wrote:
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On November 29 2016 10:04 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 10:01 mahrgell wrote:
On November 29 2016 09:57 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 09:55 mahrgell wrote:
As I mentioned NU: We need Calix as bone to check if he is on his usual "meta". So far his posts are way too readable.

Maybe he just improved his posting style though. He promised he would. Then again, he promised that at the beginning of Newbiemafia already ^.^

NU his newbie game entrance was blatantly obvious mafia. And his townplay is way too invested compared to his mafia play. Will be an easy read if he keeps up playing and keeps activity up.

Not worried about reading him.

More worried about keeping him in check in case he is town. rofl.


In what game was NU mafia? I played Newbie with him, there he was spammy, disturbing and town.
And I read the game before from him (sorry, lost name.. too lazy to check), but there he was also town, but also busy with Calix TvT all the game.

Can you link me his scumgame? (Do I really want to read his former filters??? REALLY?)

I never rolled mafia on TL.

I really hope he didn't confuse me with Lunaticman. I'd be on the edge of pulling another temper tantrum...

ohh yeah. it was him.

lol

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"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 01:27 GMT
#332
Tictock feels less interested in the game than usual. :/ At least that's what his filter makes me think.

(Also, he is found twice in the player list on page 1 while Onegu doesn't figure there)
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 13:50 GMT
#502
On November 29 2016 12:57 emperorchampion wrote:
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On November 29 2016 09:34 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.

Your awesome bro LS is the one who looks like he has a knife stuck in the butt.

Look at his entry:
On November 29 2016 07:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey first game since my ban which was like 5-6 months ago? Anyways Onegu's vote on EC seems pretty him joking around but outside of that nothing notable has happened.

He felt the need to summarize the 10 posts that were made prior to him posting, and I can't think of another reason why he would precise that it is his first game in a while after the game started other than giving an excuse to his rustiness.

That looks forced.

Flagged this post, I dun like it.
1) It looks like you're trying to make something out of nothing re: throwing something at LS.
2) It reads like you're smooshing two thoughts together, which makes me think that you had some conclusion in mind and are making the evidence fit that.

Requires further investigation.

I didn't make "something out of nothing". LS' post I quoted summarized the 10 posts that were made before he posted, and that feels forced. He also mentioned that this was his first game in a while, and if you look at the structure of the post re:
On November 29 2016 07:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey first game since my ban which was like 5-6 months ago? Anyways Onegu's vote on EC seems pretty him joking around but outside of that nothing notable has happened.

you'll notice that that part looks like he forcing to include it in his sentence because he draws the intention away from him in the next sentence.

Show me how I'm pulling this argument out of my ass. Explain to me how what I've pointed out doesn't stand out.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 13:53 GMT
#505
On November 29 2016 13:03 emperorchampion wrote:
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On November 29 2016 09:54 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 09:46 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 28 2016 03:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey guys I here now I was busy and now I here what up?

Bam this was me as scum doing that sort of thing Onegu did the quote you townread him for.

Ehhhh, not quite the same vibe.

Your quoted post's tone is what makes it fucking mafia. You're acting all nicey-nice with the "Hey guys" and "what up" and giving an excuse for why you weren't there with the busy part. Onegu's post is not that. I don't think mafia would have made this post this early cus they would profit from inactivity and do not care about it.

Also, no, I have not read any of your games.

Flagged this post as well.

1) Activity will happen whether or not mafia wants it to, therefore it's null imo.
2) LS doing this "Hey town read me for this thing you town read someone else for" reminds me of things that I've said when I'm scum. Suspicious!


I don't understand either of these two points in context.

Perhaps you didn't read the context re: the post I quoted was LS' post in another game where he was mafia.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 13:55 GMT
#506
On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:
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On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia.


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Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.

Making comparisons between [ToS/SC2ModMafia] and forum mafia is not a thing to do :3
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 13:59 GMT
#509
On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:
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On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia.


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Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.

On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote:
I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros)
And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes)
And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3
Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.

No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum.

"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 14:10 GMT
#517
On November 29 2016 23:07 Koshi wrote:
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On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia.


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Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.

On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote:
I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros)
And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes)
And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3
Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.

No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum.


Cool quotes at first sight but it is completely different to say "hi" at the start of the game, or what I did. I can see how town!Checkm8 makes that distinction.

Do you really believe you found something scummy here?

My point was that it was a contradiction.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 14:12 GMT
#518
On November 29 2016 23:08 Koshi wrote:
Also quoting 2 posts and not writing anything under it feels like an opportunistic as fuck mafia play.

"Please make the wrong assumption town"
"Please call me town for finding this contradiction"


Meh.

Or...

"Explain this contradiction" with the infamous "zzzzzzz"
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 14:21 GMT
#523
On November 29 2016 23:15 Koshi wrote:
Why don't you have an opinion on it?

Again. I ask you. Did you found this contradiction scummy the moment you saw it? Clearly you did, so tell us why.

He went from saying that LS was acting friendly to start conversations and that having a scum-read on him based on that (My read isn't even based on that) is shallow to saying that mobsters are usually the ones who act friendly. Following his logic, he would be inclined to think that it could make LS mafia.

Plus, he gives me a scummer-read after straw manning my read on LS.

I'd like him to explain how he thinks I'm pulling stuff out of my ass (EC too, stating something doesn't make it true zzz), why he scum-reads me, and what the difference between LS acting nice and mafia acting nice in ToS is.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
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November 29 2016 14:55 GMT
#530
#526

5) and 6) mostly reflect my thoughts on both these players. However, I really don't like this: "Fuck it, I guess I leave [LS] to people who can judge him better until I have seen more from him to form a more conclusive opinion. " It comes back to HF's point re: dedicating a post to someone and not having a clear opinion on them.

On that note, you still have no read on me despite liking the points that were made against me and claiming I am the one you have the most meta with.

Also, fucking stop calling me "controversial" and whatnot.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
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November 29 2016 15:00 GMT
#532
On November 29 2016 23:58 Holyflare wrote:
I feel like you just made a wall of text on every player in the game for no real reason and the majority of your scum leans are simply the unproductive ones. It just seems so out of place. Why the need for the summary?

^
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
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November 29 2016 15:23 GMT
#537
On November 30 2016 00:01 mahrgell wrote:
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On November 29 2016 23:55 NeverUnlucky wrote:
#526

5) and 6) mostly reflect my thoughts on both these players. However, I really don't like this: "Fuck it, I guess I leave [LS] to people who can judge him better until I have seen more from him to form a more conclusive opinion. " It comes back to HF's point re: dedicating a post to someone and not having a clear opinion on them.

On that note, you still have no read on me despite liking the points that were made against me and claiming I am the one you have the most meta with.

Also, fucking stop calling me "controversial" and whatnot.


COntroversial most in the sense that you are among the most suspected players in this game. Deal with it.

And about not having a read, I think I explained why. Because I feel that what you write in this game, and what others call you out for makes you look scummish in isolation. If I add back the meta, it makes you look townish. So back to square 0.

But I don't see much point in argueing about that. I have nothing to add to the allegations against you and it is up to you if you feel you defended enough against those.

If you don't feel like they are worth commenting more, just share more good stuff about other players. Like what are your opinions on HF, SL, emp, TT and LS?


The allegations as you put it are that I made stuff out of thin air (emp and checkmate) which I debunked, that my post on LS was tainted by the fact that I had a pre-made conclusion on him which is a blatant shade-throw for someone who claims to have no read on me (emp), and that I'm losing ppl with my train of thought (Shape, you). (And a point that emp misunderstood)
No example/explanation for the first, shade for the second, and my arguments being too IQ demanding for the third. That's my "case".

Here are my reads:
TOWN
DF
Koshi

LEAN-T
Checkmate
Onegu

LEAN-SCUM
EC
TT ??
SL

HF's point on you is something I agree with. Like I told you in the noobers game, you don't interact with peoplez enough which makes you look unnatural, not transparent which is a mafia trait. I don't have anything to lean either way on him though.

SL has been useless and not in a funny Grack/Superbia way, so he can be scum-leaned until he starts moving his ass.

emp, I don't understand how anyone could town-read him. His serious posts after his trolling were about me, and as I mentioned above, one of them was a misunderstanding and the other one had no evidence on why I was making shit up and contained something I perceive as a shade-throw because he doesn't even scum-read me.

TT seems uninterested by the game :3 I'm thinking it could be NAI because he was willing to give Onegu his spot in the pre-game which would show that he is not that interested in the game, so it's kind of a moot point.

LS, I despised his first post, but I enjoy his attitude in this game. Tone doesn't sound maf. He's null for me now.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 15:27 GMT
#540
On November 30 2016 00:24 Holyflare wrote:
I don't play at work, you're lucky I'm even posting anything right now and even this is tough. My "only content" so far is great and was posted on the train. It's quite easy to see I have a thought process and am following it up whenever my scum read posts (you).

I simply don't have time to read anything other than the latest posts till I get home.

Basically, I think your stances are poor. They are based on meta and/or some form of insubstantial tidbit. "This guy feels different," "Koshi is town for this but here's something I need answers for even though you're not scummy looking at all".

Your mindset just doesn't align with how I'd be thinking if I was thinking what you're thinking. You're questioning your town reads and aren't really concerned about your scum reads. Your only questions are really to your highest town read and have done not much to get any more information from your scum leans.

You want content but you rehash the game in a giant wall and expect people to do something. You want activity, you make activity by asking questions and pushing things. Not by idly commenting in a summary.


The first sentence makes me think that HF is town.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 15:46 GMT
#542
What is the purpose of this post other than riding HF's dick?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 16:16 GMT
#553
On November 30 2016 01:03 Tictock wrote:
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On November 30 2016 00:49 Koshi wrote:
4. Onegu
8. Checkm8
11. sicklucker
12. Ticktock


I am left with these names.


What did Emp and Darth do that impressed you?

Yo, Tictock

Can you comment on my concern of you seeming disconnected from the game?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
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November 29 2016 16:25 GMT
#558
On November 30 2016 01:21 mahrgell wrote:
Btw, NU, what made you lean-T on Onegu?

I recognize myself in him, and he's funny. I also think that his "Where is everyone?" and "SL was here then left..." posts were town. However, I don't think he's the most town itt anymore because he has yet to make a serious post which worries me. I can see where Koshi is coming from with the Dandel comparison.

Off for a while
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 22:35 GMT
#654
On November 30 2016 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:
I here now. Not much has happened. I do think if one of EC or NU was scum it would be NU because he seems a bit opportunistic at times for his push on people (on me and EC) yet at the same he trying to solve the game more than EC. Plus the hidden LS rule that tends to happen: If someone is playing their [first?] game with me ever they would try to push me at someway.

Explain to me how my pushes on both you and emperor were opportunistic please.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
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November 29 2016 22:41 GMT
#661
On November 30 2016 07:18 Koshi wrote:
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On November 30 2016 07:01 Rels wrote:
Koshi explain your townread on checkm8 ?

His posts more likely come from town than mafia wifoming like a madman.

I am a sucker for people that say this:
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On November 29 2016 23:28 Checkm8 wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.

On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote:
I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros)
And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes)
And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3
Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.

No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum.



Damn, I'm horrible at this. But believe me I'm town...because I'm not chocolate nor mocha...

And the post in which he said I was mafia for being too nice. Don't know. It made sense when HF said it came more likely from town.
[...]

Yeah, I found that last post to be townie as well.

Why is LS obvious town to you?




"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
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November 29 2016 22:45 GMT
#666
On November 30 2016 07:44 Koshi wrote:
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On November 30 2016 07:42 Rels wrote:
On November 30 2016 07:40 Koshi wrote:
On November 30 2016 07:37 Rels wrote:
TIME T1: Onegu says something
On November 29 2016 09:44 Onegu wrote:
Also what happend to SL he said hi to me then just bounced...

TIME T2 a few hours later: SL posts something
On November 29 2016 13:24 sicklucker wrote:
On November 29 2016 09:18 Tictock wrote:
Oh right, the whole Koshi vs Onegu thing.

I will prob ignore any and all of that just like Calix vs NU.


tru me too .townie

TIME T3 another few hours alter: SL reacts to what Onegu says on T1
On November 29 2016 17:30 sicklucker wrote:
and onegu why you getting mad for sayin hi to you. there was 2 posts in the thread not worth my time to stick around ;p

So that shows he read the game before posting at T3. So that means that (1) he read the whole thread but didn't tryhard to gain townieness from it and (2) posted randomly in the thread wihtout following it at all at T2, which you tend to not do as scum.
I guess ? It sounded better in my head.

I can see what you want to say. I as mafia was always very aware of that indeed.
But it is not good enough atm for sl.

Do you like NU?

No apart from his big post which was townie.

Exactly. That removed him from my scumlist.
But his play is really not up to date. Also. Dat filter. He feels restricted in his posting.

I do restrict what I post, yeah.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 22:56 GMT
#678
On November 30 2016 07:48 LightningStrike wrote:
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On November 30 2016 07:35 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 30 2016 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:
I here now. Not much has happened. I do think if one of EC or NU was scum it would be NU because he seems a bit opportunistic at times for his push on people (on me and EC) yet at the same he trying to solve the game more than EC. Plus the hidden LS rule that tends to happen: If someone is playing their [first?] game with me ever they would try to push me at someway.

Explain to me how my pushes on both you and emperor were opportunistic please.

In both instances you pushed us when people were pushing us. Can't do exact time stamp I still on mobile. Anyways my phone is dying so I won't be able to post till I get it charged.

It's actually the opposite. I pushed both of you when no one was pushing you.

@emperorchampion Can you walk me through your read progression on me specifically?
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On November 29 2016 12:57 emperorchampion wrote:
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On November 29 2016 09:34 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.

Your awesome bro LS is the one who looks like he has a knife stuck in the butt.

Look at his entry:
On November 29 2016 07:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey first game since my ban which was like 5-6 months ago? Anyways Onegu's vote on EC seems pretty him joking around but outside of that nothing notable has happened.

He felt the need to summarize the 10 posts that were made prior to him posting, and I can't think of another reason why he would precise that it is his first game in a while after the game started other than giving an excuse to his rustiness.

That looks forced.

Flagged this post, I dun like it.
1) It looks like you're trying to make something out of nothing re: throwing something at LS.
2) It reads like you're smooshing two thoughts together, which makes me think that you had some conclusion in mind and are making the evidence fit that.

Requires further investigation.

On November 30 2016 02:22 emperorchampion wrote:
NU probably town. LS don't really like trying to set up mafia between NU and I. TT haven't really liked from the get go. mahrgell's got this mix of above average content, lots of questions, pressure on incorrect target that's raising some flags for me. That's where I'm at right now. There are a ton of questions for me that I may answer at some point, largely related to NU I imagine, but that guy is town for now.

On November 30 2016 02:55 emperorchampion wrote:
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On November 30 2016 02:39 Shapelog wrote:
On November 30 2016 02:22 emperorchampion wrote:
NU probably town. LS don't really like trying to set up mafia between NU and I. TT haven't really liked from the get go. mahrgell's got this mix of above average content, lots of questions, pressure on incorrect target that's raising some flags for me. That's where I'm at right now. There are a ton of questions for me that I may answer at some point, largely related to NU I imagine, but that guy is town for now.

What has made NU town for you now?

Also, you think LS is setting up to act like there is mafia between you and NU?


For now he seems to understand why he's not mafia, albeit a little rudely, but I'll take it for now.

Feels like it yeah.

On November 30 2016 03:41 emperorchampion wrote:
LS / NU / mahrgell will sort out later I think, but are town for now

"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
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November 29 2016 23:16 GMT
#701
On November 30 2016 07:57 Koshi wrote:
This NU guy is so disconnected from the thread. Quite hilarious.

Disconnected from the thread, no. Disconnected from your 1 on 1 with Rels, yes. There is no comment I can make or think of making in relation to your conversation and would much rather dive filters and understand others.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
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November 30 2016 03:49 GMT
#721
On November 30 2016 12:34 LightningStrike wrote:
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On November 30 2016 12:01 darthfoley wrote:
On November 30 2016 11:51 LightningStrike wrote:
On November 30 2016 11:41 darthfoley wrote:
On November 30 2016 11:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Also kinda disliking the HF wagon that formed rather quickly but then again the last time I said about a wagon on HF forming quickly was when HF was scum so (shrugs).


I mean his filter is basically calling mahrgell shit, not posting about anyone else, then saying he doesn't feel like doing shit. That's someone you prefer to keep around?

He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally.


I mean that may be true but i was unaware of this meta point when I voted on him. Never played a game with HF.

If he's one of the best players it's equally suspicious that he's spent a strange amount of time on D1 beating the mahrgell horse to death. Especially considering it doesn't look like mahrgell will be one of the realistic D1 trains.

Maybe. Idk man I was never good at reading him -.-

The trick is to scum-read him until either mafia kills him or he is alive by day 3.

Also, I think SL is very likely to be scum with his recent posts on me.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
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November 30 2016 03:55 GMT
#724
703
On November 29 2016 23:55 Koshi wrote:
It isn't useful for people to exactly understand what I am thinking.

LS is town for me till I say otherwise. Feel free to think differently.
Checkm8 is a weaker townread but I like what he said previously, so unless his activity drops and/or says dumb shit he is green.

704
On November 29 2016 23:58 Holyflare wrote:
I feel like you just made a wall of text on every player in the game for no real reason and the majority of your scum leans are simply the unproductive ones. It just seems so out of place. Why the need for the summary?

705
On November 29 2016 09:34 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.

Your awesome bro LS is the one who looks like he has a knife stuck in the butt.

Look at his entry:
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On November 29 2016 07:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey first game since my ban which was like 5-6 months ago? Anyways Onegu's vote on EC seems pretty him joking around but outside of that nothing notable has happened.

He felt the need to summarize the 10 posts that were made prior to him posting, and I can't think of another reason why he would precise that it is his first game in a while after the game started other than giving an excuse to his rustiness.

That looks forced.


Look at the timestamp of the posts he quoted - 23:55, 23:58, 9:34 of the same day.

He LITERALLY went in my filter to cherry pick one post to formulate a read on me as Koshi and Rels were saying that they disliked me more and more. THIS IS OPPORTUNISTIC AS FUCK. Why didn't he flag this post earlier?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
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November 30 2016 03:59 GMT
#727
On November 30 2016 12:52 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.

On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote:
I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros)
And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes)
And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3
Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.

No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum.



This post is not natural to me.
1) No mention of c8 when he actually makes quoted post (2). After quoted post (1) comes out, NU goes to reference it.
2) Makes me think NU was filtering c8 looking for something that looks bad to push him on it.

Thoughts?

I don't quite understand 1) :3 But I did not filter checkm8 when I did that post. The first quote was directly directed to me, so it was fresh in my mind, and the second one was made while I was online, so I made the connection.

On November 30 2016 12:53 emperorchampion wrote:
@NU, to answer a previous question: started thinking you were looking pretty bad, went to thinking you were OK and should maybe be left alone, now back to looking pretty bad.

Yeh, I figured that, I was asking why that is.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 30 2016 04:02 GMT
#729
On November 30 2016 13:01 emperorchampion wrote:
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On November 30 2016 12:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 30 2016 12:52 emperorchampion wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.

On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote:
I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros)
And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes)
And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3
Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.

No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum.



This post is not natural to me.
1) No mention of c8 when he actually makes quoted post (2). After quoted post (1) comes out, NU goes to reference it.
2) Makes me think NU was filtering c8 looking for something that looks bad to push him on it.

Thoughts?

I don't quite understand 1) :3 But I did not filter checkm8 when I did that post. The first quote was directly directed to me, so it was fresh in my mind, and the second one was made while I was online, so I made the connection.

On November 30 2016 12:53 emperorchampion wrote:
@NU, to answer a previous question: started thinking you were looking pretty bad, went to thinking you were OK and should maybe be left alone, now back to looking pretty bad.

Yeh, I figured that, I was asking why that is.


Well at the moment I don't really understand where in the game you're at.

So where are you at?

I'm up to date, I was thinking of filtering SL before heading to bed (in 15-20 minutes).
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
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November 30 2016 04:05 GMT
#731
On November 29 2016 09:08 sicklucker wrote:
i just want to believe your not claiming power role but you probably are

Nobody flagged this?????????????

This is so fucking scummy, it's like Lunaticman's entry in that other newbie game where he blue read Stutters for [reasons?]. Why in the world would his reaction to LS asking others to trust him be that he is a PR?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 30 2016 04:11 GMT
#732
On November 30 2016 13:04 emperorchampion wrote:
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On November 30 2016 13:02 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 30 2016 13:01 emperorchampion wrote:
On November 30 2016 12:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 30 2016 12:52 emperorchampion wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.

On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote:
I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros)
And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes)
And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3
Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.

No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum.



This post is not natural to me.
1) No mention of c8 when he actually makes quoted post (2). After quoted post (1) comes out, NU goes to reference it.
2) Makes me think NU was filtering c8 looking for something that looks bad to push him on it.

Thoughts?

I don't quite understand 1) :3 But I did not filter checkm8 when I did that post. The first quote was directly directed to me, so it was fresh in my mind, and the second one was made while I was online, so I made the connection.

On November 30 2016 12:53 emperorchampion wrote:
@NU, to answer a previous question: started thinking you were looking pretty bad, went to thinking you were OK and should maybe be left alone, now back to looking pretty bad.

Yeh, I figured that, I was asking why that is.


Well at the moment I don't really understand where in the game you're at.

So where are you at?

I'm up to date, I was thinking of filtering SL before heading to bed (in 15-20 minutes).


Who is town for you, and who is mafia for you?


Town: Koshi, DF
CM8, Rels, mahr, Onegu***

Mafia: SL

tbh you asking me this makes me doubt that you are a mafia. You seem to want to try to understand me.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 30 2016 04:20 GMT
#734
On November 30 2016 13:05 NeverUnlucky wrote:
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On November 29 2016 09:08 sicklucker wrote:
i just want to believe your not claiming power role but you probably are

Nobody flagged this?????????????

This is so fucking scummy, it's like Lunaticman's entry in that other newbie game where he blue read Stutters for [reasons?]. Why in the world would his reaction to LS asking others to trust him be that he is a PR?

On September 25 2016 00:23 Lunaticman wrote:
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On September 24 2016 23:53 DanelerH wrote:
I am not liking Lunaticman right now. First of all, basically all Lunatic has done is posted a random Town read. Let's take a look at it:

On September 24 2016 16:38 Lunaticman wrote:
On September 24 2016 16:18 Skynx wrote:
Hmm Lunatic intro worst i guess.

Man i dont get why get this PL discussion every game. Its quite simple, odds are town barely have any info D1 to decide on a proper lynch, hence guy with 2 posts dies. Sometimes scum slip, or someone has incredible meta read confidence or w/e, then you dont't pl. Simple stuff.



Somehow I knew you would say that. I hope we can stay on friendly terms this time around but I doubt it.

Stutters is so far the most obvious townie.

I am a bit afraid of the logical development of this game. TL is filled with smarties that loves to talk the talk but always lynch the random dude that didnt sound smart.

This will be the doom of us all I tell you, nobody can look more perfect then the mafia because they already know everything!

This looks like the current meta afk townies and leading mafia for sure. This totally reminds me if the palmar/hf domination game check it out.


Lunaticman just throws a random Town-read in the middle of a bunch of irrelevant information. Furthermore, xe doesn't give any reasoning for the Town-read. When asked about it, xe responded with this series of posts:

On September 24 2016 20:07 Lunaticman wrote:
On September 24 2016 19:29 Rels wrote:
On September 24 2016 18:13 Lunaticman wrote:
On September 24 2016 17:32 Calix wrote:
Yo. I have a bit of time in the morning to pop in.

I actually don't mind the activity as much as I usually would because the posting isn't just a bunch of useless spam and it's much easier to catch up/ reread stuff.

On September 24 2016 11:46 SoulEaterQUEEN wrote:
On September 24 2016 08:04 Xatalos wrote:
Unfortunately, looks like you can't vote for yourself in this setup :/

Interesting idea. What does this achieve?
Last time I checked, voting for yourself is a lazy way of avoiding pressure, gives no info, doesn't get you reads. Unless you are schizo ^_^

Also hi there.
I'm one of the newbs, this is my first on-site mafia, therefore I am not aware of the site meta. Also find it pointless to link off site meta examples personally. Too many players fall into the meta trap to conclude reads. Anyway this is shit fluff talking. Grill me, bake me, do whatever that makes you happy until my alignment cookie crumbles infront of you.
I'll post my RVS vote, and call it a night.


Just to pop in with my two cents on this matter. Meta is good for establishing what is NAI for a player. (e.g., how often they vote or if they talk in a particular way) but I agree that a lot of people, myself included at times, use it as a substitute for analysis.

I'm not familiar with many people here (I've only really played with Skynx/ Superbia/ Jealous before) and I'd like to keep it that way so that my analysis isn't skewed by some subjective interpretations of how XYZ played in a game like, 486973 years ago. Only exception is if it's a bad player who has pronounced differences between their town/ scum game that means they make themselves obvious or some shit. So if we could keep the "X is scum/ town due to meta" talk down to a minimum then that'll be lovely.

As far as initial impressions go, I town-lean Jealous (this is mainly because we were posting similar things at approximately the same time when we were questioning Stutters so he's more likely to be coming from the same mindset as myself)

Ambivalent on Daneler. I didn't like his entrance because he was using someone else's words to put forth his opinion and then commented on something that looks odd but his follow-up made sense.

Stutters has done some questionable things with his claims to want to generate discussion. These two posts struck me as strange:

On September 24 2016 08:26 Stutters695 wrote:
On September 24 2016 08:21 Jealous wrote:
On September 24 2016 08:19 Stutters695 wrote:
On September 24 2016 08:04 Xatalos wrote:
Unfortunately, looks like you can't vote for yourself in this setup :/


To everyone else, this is why we should lynch him today. He's always one step ahead, we'll never catch him.

On a more serious note, how does everyone feel about going with the scummiest of the inevitable inactives? Activity always seems to be a struggle in these games and I won't be lynchbait for once.

I'm usually pro-PL but it's too early to make such a decision. We need to see how others are posting. It's odd that you suggest this so early.

This is how I get reactions (or saying something controversial then lurking and waiting for reactions, but you don't want that). Obviously I don't want to lynch a lurker though because I want to lynch Xata.


Here he says that he was reaction-testing. NAI by itself but the fact that he capitulated so quickly makes me skeptical. Scum are more likely to shy away from their actions in this manner compared to town (who would be more confident in their ability to defend themselves) because they don't want too much attention.

Stutters:
Calix:
You only got two responses before claiming it was a reaction-test?

My dear Watson, the game is afoot. That does seem kind of counterproductive in retrospect. I think this is the part though where you guys debate if I'm terrible, trying to come off as terrible while scum or part of some master play.


Here he notes that people are likely to discuss his posts. Again, totally normal thing to say by itself, but what I don't like is the fact that he notes most of the possibilities before anyone can actually talk about him...since this limits opportunities for discussion...which goes against his stated aim of getting reactions and thus starting conversation.

It's not a legit contradiction or anything but I'd like Stutters to flesh out his reasoning here.

On September 24 2016 16:38 Lunaticman wrote:
On September 24 2016 16:18 Skynx wrote:
Hmm Lunatic intro worst i guess.

Man i dont get why get this PL discussion every game. Its quite simple, odds are town barely have any info D1 to decide on a proper lynch, hence guy with 2 posts dies. Sometimes scum slip, or someone has incredible meta read confidence or w/e, then you dont't pl. Simple stuff.



Somehow I knew you would say that. I hope we can stay on friendly terms this time around but I doubt it.

Stutters is so far the most obvious townie.

I am a bit afraid of the logical development of this game. TL is filled with smarties that loves to talk the talk but always lynch the random dude that didnt sound smart.

This will be the doom of us all I tell you, nobody can look more perfect then the mafia because they already know everything!

This looks like the current meta afk townies and leading mafia for sure. This totally reminds me if the palmar/hf domination game check it out.


What makes you think Stutters is the most townie player in the thread?

Are you claiming to be one of the dumb-sounding people?

Fourth part is just weird. It states the obvious ("mafia are informed and will try to look townie") but it does it in a hyperbolic manner. Where are you going here?

If you think mafia are leading the discussion then that implies that you suspect players and this is something you did not put down in favour of a town-read. Who could fall under this category of 'leading mafia' in your eyes, if anyone?


Stutters is obvious town for me at least, I can understand why you wouldn't notice but I have played with him 4 times in a row and I'm pretty sure he is town.

Please explain


Well I don't want to day 1 because of reasons to be disclosed at a later date. He is not going to be lynched today at the very least.


On September 24 2016 20:49 Lunaticman wrote:
On September 24 2016 20:27 Rels wrote:
On September 24 2016 20:07 Lunaticman wrote:
On September 24 2016 19:29 Rels wrote:
On September 24 2016 18:13 Lunaticman wrote:
On September 24 2016 17:32 Calix wrote:
Yo. I have a bit of time in the morning to pop in.

I actually don't mind the activity as much as I usually would because the posting isn't just a bunch of useless spam and it's much easier to catch up/ reread stuff.

On September 24 2016 11:46 SoulEaterQUEEN wrote:
On September 24 2016 08:04 Xatalos wrote:
Unfortunately, looks like you can't vote for yourself in this setup :/

Interesting idea. What does this achieve?
Last time I checked, voting for yourself is a lazy way of avoiding pressure, gives no info, doesn't get you reads. Unless you are schizo ^_^

Also hi there.
I'm one of the newbs, this is my first on-site mafia, therefore I am not aware of the site meta. Also find it pointless to link off site meta examples personally. Too many players fall into the meta trap to conclude reads. Anyway this is shit fluff talking. Grill me, bake me, do whatever that makes you happy until my alignment cookie crumbles infront of you.
I'll post my RVS vote, and call it a night.


Just to pop in with my two cents on this matter. Meta is good for establishing what is NAI for a player. (e.g., how often they vote or if they talk in a particular way) but I agree that a lot of people, myself included at times, use it as a substitute for analysis.

I'm not familiar with many people here (I've only really played with Skynx/ Superbia/ Jealous before) and I'd like to keep it that way so that my analysis isn't skewed by some subjective interpretations of how XYZ played in a game like, 486973 years ago. Only exception is if it's a bad player who has pronounced differences between their town/ scum game that means they make themselves obvious or some shit. So if we could keep the "X is scum/ town due to meta" talk down to a minimum then that'll be lovely.

As far as initial impressions go, I town-lean Jealous (this is mainly because we were posting similar things at approximately the same time when we were questioning Stutters so he's more likely to be coming from the same mindset as myself)

Ambivalent on Daneler. I didn't like his entrance because he was using someone else's words to put forth his opinion and then commented on something that looks odd but his follow-up made sense.

Stutters has done some questionable things with his claims to want to generate discussion. These two posts struck me as strange:

On September 24 2016 08:26 Stutters695 wrote:
On September 24 2016 08:21 Jealous wrote:
[quote]
I'm usually pro-PL but it's too early to make such a decision. We need to see how others are posting. It's odd that you suggest this so early.

This is how I get reactions (or saying something controversial then lurking and waiting for reactions, but you don't want that). Obviously I don't want to lynch a lurker though because I want to lynch Xata.


Here he says that he was reaction-testing. NAI by itself but the fact that he capitulated so quickly makes me skeptical. Scum are more likely to shy away from their actions in this manner compared to town (who would be more confident in their ability to defend themselves) because they don't want too much attention.

Stutters:
Calix:
You only got two responses before claiming it was a reaction-test?

My dear Watson, the game is afoot. That does seem kind of counterproductive in retrospect. I think this is the part though where you guys debate if I'm terrible, trying to come off as terrible while scum or part of some master play.


Here he notes that people are likely to discuss his posts. Again, totally normal thing to say by itself, but what I don't like is the fact that he notes most of the possibilities before anyone can actually talk about him...since this limits opportunities for discussion...which goes against his stated aim of getting reactions and thus starting conversation.

It's not a legit contradiction or anything but I'd like Stutters to flesh out his reasoning here.

On September 24 2016 16:38 Lunaticman wrote:
On September 24 2016 16:18 Skynx wrote:
Hmm Lunatic intro worst i guess.

Man i dont get why get this PL discussion every game. Its quite simple, odds are town barely have any info D1 to decide on a proper lynch, hence guy with 2 posts dies. Sometimes scum slip, or someone has incredible meta read confidence or w/e, then you dont't pl. Simple stuff.



Somehow I knew you would say that. I hope we can stay on friendly terms this time around but I doubt it.

Stutters is so far the most obvious townie.

I am a bit afraid of the logical development of this game. TL is filled with smarties that loves to talk the talk but always lynch the random dude that didnt sound smart.

This will be the doom of us all I tell you, nobody can look more perfect then the mafia because they already know everything!

This looks like the current meta afk townies and leading mafia for sure. This totally reminds me if the palmar/hf domination game check it out.


What makes you think Stutters is the most townie player in the thread?

Are you claiming to be one of the dumb-sounding people?

Fourth part is just weird. It states the obvious ("mafia are informed and will try to look townie") but it does it in a hyperbolic manner. Where are you going here?

If you think mafia are leading the discussion then that implies that you suspect players and this is something you did not put down in favour of a town-read. Who could fall under this category of 'leading mafia' in your eyes, if anyone?


Stutters is obvious town for me at least, I can understand why you wouldn't notice but I have played with him 4 times in a row and I'm pretty sure he is town.

Please explain


Well I don't want to day 1 because of reasons to be disclosed at a later date. He is not going to be lynched today at the very least.

I'll remember that. This "I promise I have ghood reasons" comes more often from scum than from town though.


That is just speculation and if you were town you wouldn't force me to say why I have a town read.


On September 24 2016 21:20 Lunaticman wrote:
On September 24 2016 20:51 Rels wrote:
On September 24 2016 20:49 Lunaticman wrote:
On September 24 2016 20:27 Rels wrote:
On September 24 2016 20:07 Lunaticman wrote:
On September 24 2016 19:29 Rels wrote:
On September 24 2016 18:13 Lunaticman wrote:
On September 24 2016 17:32 Calix wrote:
Yo. I have a bit of time in the morning to pop in.

I actually don't mind the activity as much as I usually would because the posting isn't just a bunch of useless spam and it's much easier to catch up/ reread stuff.

[quote]

Just to pop in with my two cents on this matter. Meta is good for establishing what is NAI for a player. (e.g., how often they vote or if they talk in a particular way) but I agree that a lot of people, myself included at times, use it as a substitute for analysis.

I'm not familiar with many people here (I've only really played with Skynx/ Superbia/ Jealous before) and I'd like to keep it that way so that my analysis isn't skewed by some subjective interpretations of how XYZ played in a game like, 486973 years ago. Only exception is if it's a bad player who has pronounced differences between their town/ scum game that means they make themselves obvious or some shit. So if we could keep the "X is scum/ town due to meta" talk down to a minimum then that'll be lovely.

As far as initial impressions go, I town-lean Jealous (this is mainly because we were posting similar things at approximately the same time when we were questioning Stutters so he's more likely to be coming from the same mindset as myself)

Ambivalent on Daneler. I didn't like his entrance because he was using someone else's words to put forth his opinion and then commented on something that looks odd but his follow-up made sense.

Stutters has done some questionable things with his claims to want to generate discussion. These two posts struck me as strange:

[quote]

Here he says that he was reaction-testing. NAI by itself but the fact that he capitulated so quickly makes me skeptical. Scum are more likely to shy away from their actions in this manner compared to town (who would be more confident in their ability to defend themselves) because they don't want too much attention.

[quote]

Here he notes that people are likely to discuss his posts. Again, totally normal thing to say by itself, but what I don't like is the fact that he notes most of the possibilities before anyone can actually talk about him...since this limits opportunities for discussion...which goes against his stated aim of getting reactions and thus starting conversation.

It's not a legit contradiction or anything but I'd like Stutters to flesh out his reasoning here.

[quote]

What makes you think Stutters is the most townie player in the thread?

Are you claiming to be one of the dumb-sounding people?

Fourth part is just weird. It states the obvious ("mafia are informed and will try to look townie") but it does it in a hyperbolic manner. Where are you going here?

If you think mafia are leading the discussion then that implies that you suspect players and this is something you did not put down in favour of a town-read. Who could fall under this category of 'leading mafia' in your eyes, if anyone?


Stutters is obvious town for me at least, I can understand why you wouldn't notice but I have played with him 4 times in a row and I'm pretty sure he is town.

Please explain


Well I don't want to day 1 because of reasons to be disclosed at a later date. He is not going to be lynched today at the very least.

I'll remember that. This "I promise I have ghood reasons" comes more often from scum than from town though.


That is just speculation and if you were town you wouldn't force me to say why I have a town read.

Why woudln't I do such a thing ?
So apparently you think I'm scum ?


No I didn't say that you are scum I just find it suspect why I have to tell you why I town read him even though I don't want to yet.



There is no reason not to give your reasoning for a Town-read. I want to know why you think Shutters is Town and I will not accept "I'll tell you later" as an answer.


The game is 4 pages long day one, take a chill pill. I dare to say I have done more than half the players in the game and in my experience you never hit mafia day one. It is much better to build a town circle.

Also Stutters is in all likelyhood a blue role. And if he dies it is on you and Rels.

Not quite as similar as I recalled, but the point of his reaction being that LS is blue is still fucking scummery.

On November 30 2016 13:11 Tictock wrote:
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On November 30 2016 13:05 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 09:08 sicklucker wrote:
i just want to believe your not claiming power role but you probably are

Nobody flagged this?????????????

This is so fucking scummy, it's like Lunaticman's entry in that other newbie game where he blue read Stutters for [reasons?]. Why in the world would his reaction to LS asking others to trust him be that he is a PR?


LS has a bit of a history of claiming blue unnecessarily or way too early, pretty sure that was a jab at that. It's a fairly old meta though.

I find this less strange than the people who took Shapes cop claim seriously.

SL is one of those people.

On November 29 2016 19:18 sicklucker wrote:
shapelogs and ls's interactions were pretty horrible but very town. Also shapelog is obviously the cop and if hes not im going to convince mafia he is so they shot him


"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 30 2016 15:26 GMT
#881
On November 30 2016 17:26 Koshi wrote:
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On November 30 2016 08:16 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 30 2016 07:57 Koshi wrote:
This NU guy is so disconnected from the thread. Quite hilarious.

Disconnected from the thread, no. Disconnected from your 1 on 1 with Rels, yes. There is no comment I can make or think of making in relation to your conversation and would much rather dive filters and understand others.

Isn't the first time bro. At the start of the game as well.
Town!NU would just post more (funny) shizzle and put himself in the conversations way more. Town!NU would dominate the conversation because he talks what comes to him and then others join in with him.

Now you are always outside the conversations for some reason.



If somebody can pinpoint me to a game in which you play like this, show me, otherwise this is a clear different meta than I am used to from you.

Man, you're making the mistake of reading my mood instead of my alignment. Like you're/were also scum-reading tictock and holyflare for this reason re: being demotivated. I post stuff when I am motivated to post stuff, I post funny stuff when I am in a happy mood. It's not something that defines my town meta. Just read my filter in HM3 from mid-day 2 onwards: I had lost motivation in the game and became disconnected like I am now. Like this game I just can't get emotionally invested into the game like in cruise trip mafia even after sinking roughly 7 hours of my time into it and that's from the moment I signed in

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 08 2016 03:36 NeverUnlucky wrote:
/out

On November 11 2016 03:08 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Tentatively /in.

On November 26 2016 23:27 NeverUnlucky wrote:
/in

On November 28 2016 01:14 NeverUnlucky wrote:
/confirm

detached play


"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 30 2016 15:29 GMT
#882
Like if I had rolled mafia I'd be more inclined to copy my old meta of posting one-liners and stupid shit. I have the easiest town meta to replicate.

I am town fwiw. I just can't get into the game.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 30 2016 15:38 GMT
#885
On December 01 2016 00:32 mahrgell wrote:
@NU
okay, tbh I'm not much interested in any defense from you.
Would you mind instead sharing your own thoughts on other players?

Who are your top scum reads now?
How do you judge the way how the train on you formed?


I'm just on page 39, but for now I think that SL and emp are the most likely to be scum because of their read progression on me.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 30 2016 15:47 GMT
#886
On November 30 2016 08:30 sicklucker wrote:
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On November 29 2016 09:34 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.

Your awesome bro LS is the one who looks like he has a knife stuck in the butt.

Look at his entry:
On November 29 2016 07:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey first game since my ban which was like 5-6 months ago? Anyways Onegu's vote on EC seems pretty him joking around but outside of that nothing notable has happened.

He felt the need to summarize the 10 posts that were made prior to him posting, and I can't think of another reason why he would precise that it is his first game in a while after the game started other than giving an excuse to his rustiness.

That looks forced.


going after ls the ultimate lynchbait and getting mad about town circles.

Then he just backs off it. then he attacks sicklucker on day one for no reason. he can die first so far

Like this is why sl scum-reads me. Because ls is a lynchbait (Don't see how, he's town-read by most ppl), me going for him makes me mafia? Also, I never got mad at any town circle.

I did "attack" sl for a reason. His filter was filled with shitposts that weren't even funny and now his only contribution is his scum-read on me which as I've pointed out was taken out of his ass.

On November 30 2016 08:32 sicklucker wrote:
also like that other new dude he just throws inactive/lazy people at the bott of his scum list. and completely ignored his acual scum read LS. Hes basicly bullied by koshi into not scum reading ls and randomly scum reads me and ticktock for being lazy 6 hours into a game which is hilarious if you think about it.

My scumlist when he posted that thing was tt ??, sl and emp. Rels/HF/DF/Onegu who are also inactive/lasy aren't there and neither is LS. Also, my scum-reads on tt and him were far from random.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 30 2016 15:48 GMT
#887
emp I don't even know why he scum-reads me
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 30 2016 15:55 GMT
#888
Koshi's case on me is great, but I'm town :/
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 30 2016 16:07 GMT
#892
I feel like emp and mahr's reads on me are way too flippy floppy and weak and they surprisingly coincide with Koshi's read on me. mahr could very much be scum.

Page 43, will be back in 1:30
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 30 2016 16:08 GMT
#893
On December 01 2016 01:01 emperorchampion wrote:
ughghg I just don't know about you man. Your case on sl leaves me unconvinced because you are basically suspecting him for troll posts.

I think maybe TT is the top lynch. Thinking about it after his sleep, his big post has sooo many inconsistencies.

No, look at my post regarding the timing of the read he made on me. It followed thread sentiment aka it was opportunistic as fuck
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 30 2016 18:11 GMT
#910
#895 was a great post. emp probably town
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 30 2016 18:12 GMT
#913
Though I don't get how he can dedicate such thorough analysis on TT his scum-read and vote me because my actions make him feel uneasy.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 30 2016 18:14 GMT
#915
On December 01 2016 03:11 darthfoley wrote:
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On December 01 2016 00:55 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Koshi's case on me is great, but I'm town :/


wtf who says this as town???? especially you of all people. last game if someone hinted that you might be mafia, you flipped shit. I understand you might not be motivated to play or something but that does not "normalize" this response from a player like you.

like mahrgell or checkm8 would do this type of post but i can't see a world in which you just lie down and take it like this

I flipped shit at Calix and Skynx because their cases on me were FUCKING GARBAGE and factually incorrect. This game I hinted that at emperor and LS's posts on me while trying not to be toxic, but Koshi's case on me makes sense.

Yes, I am town, 100%.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 30 2016 18:28 GMT
#920
On December 01 2016 03:23 Onegu wrote:
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On November 30 2016 04:14 emperorchampion wrote:
On November 30 2016 03:59 Shapelog wrote:
EC do you think LS is town?


Not sure at the moment. Right now, seems to me like either misguided town, or devious mafia. More likely would be misguided town out of those to me. Could also be the case that NU is actually mafia, and he's on-track-town.That considered, doesn't presently look like a good lynch target to me.

You want to go after him?



I really dont like any of EC's posts. Almost none of them give anything concrete except TT later in his filter. A bunch of his posts are like this one, not giving a actual stance, and then trying to get someone elses read. It seems really opportunistic to me.

But even after he makes his TT read he keeps his vote on NU saying he needs feedback? I feel he is playing scared mafia. I would be ok with my vote on him.

If you look at his fliter TT was right even though he is voting NU he is waffleing on him so much, yet he keeps his vote on him after calling him scum.

mahrgell too is similar in that regard re: his read on me kept going back and forth with no solid stance. His solid stance like emp (though he seems to be waffling again a bit) happened after koshi stated he full on scum-read me.

Also, I read Rels' filter and didn't find anything mafier. I still think he is town for the SL timing post.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 30 2016 18:34 GMT
#925
On December 01 2016 03:28 Onegu wrote:
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On December 01 2016 01:27 emperorchampion wrote:
On November 30 2016 15:21 Tictock wrote:
Rels - Feels a lot like last game joining a bit late but just dropping thoughts as he has them. His "Ok NVM" posts support that he is just saying what he thinks as he thinks it, not trying to construct stuff. Very likely town.

Holyflare - I don't agree with much of what HF said about gell, but it feels in line with stuff he's pushed before. To restate: I disagree with his reasoning to scumread mahrgell but it's not unlike pushes I've seen from town!HF before. There are a couple posts I feel could fall into DMA + Show Spoiler +
Dick Move Analysis, basically just the trend that mafia aren't usually outright mean to other players
, #453, #494, #507. So I'm tempted to townlean HF, however I'm not convinced any of this is outside his mafia wheelhouse so it's just a weak lean for now. In fact thinking about it more there are similarities to his push on gell and how he pushed me in (I think?) his last scum game. He was also fairly lackluster D1 in that game until he pushed for shenanigans onto Rels at EoD. Guess I'm pretty null/conflicted on HF.

Shapelog - I'm suprised how straightforward Shape is being this game honestly. Sure he threw out the cop WIFOM right off but that was pretty much the only time he hasn't been fairly serious this game. I'd be more worried about it if I didn't feel like I could see where he is coming from generaly and liked a few of the points he's been making. The one thing that stood out as strange to me was his NU read in #403
+ Show Spoiler +
Shape started off saying he didn't find much to sway him either way yet here was his conclusion:
Overall he has been overstressing things more than they should, which is more AI of a scum player than a town player. But, NU tone as town in previous games is like that. And while he did say he was trying to change his meta, tone and writing style is harder to change than just what you post. He's null/light scum read, but once he posts more content posts (along with everyone else), I will relook.


Onegu - Flipping my read from earlier. I gave Onegu some credit for doing some stuff right off and seeming like he was involved. Skimming his filter now I find basically nothing with real content in it. Seems like he burnt up a bunch of energy right at the start posting a bunch but now that there is stuff to actually discuss has dropped off. Would be someone to re-evaluate closer to EoD is I have time.

LightningStrike - Kinda a lazy read but LS just feels tonally on point to me and has been pretty involved. I'd imagine him having a harder time being this comfortable rolling scum after such a long absence from playing.

darthfoley - Pretty meh over his filter. I can kinda see where he is coming from at times, but I dislike how he dropped Shape from a townread to null just kus Rels asked him about it. I was going to call his vote on HF opportunistic, but he did mention not liking HF in an earlier post. I think I just need to see more from Darth to get a better read, I do recall him being a bit like this last game as well.

Koshi - Like I said before I see no reason for him to take a step back from his scumread on me like he did if he were mafia. I also imagine he'd be way more burnt out rolling scum for the 5th game in a row. Sure he'd play to win still, but what I've seen is a fair bit above what mafia would need to be doing at this point in the game.

Checkm8 - Not much to go on, and yea as others have mentioned he's overplayed the newb card. His one post of content felt legit. Idk, gut says town.

mahrgell - Feels a lot like what I recall from last game and pretty tonally on point as well. I also liked his reactions to HF's pressure (possibly another DMA) and while I get his big reads post feeling a bit lackluster it also reads to me like his legit thoughts at the time. Fairly strong townlean here.

emperorchampion - I honestly have no clue where Emp's head is at this game. Starts off some pressure on NU then does a 180 with no explanation and is now back to scumreading him. This post in particular stands out to me.
On November 30 2016 02:22 emperorchampion wrote:
NU probably town. LS don't really like trying to set up mafia between NU and I. TT haven't really liked from the get go. mahrgell's got this mix of above average content, lots of questions, pressure on incorrect target that's raising some flags for me. That's where I'm at right now. There are a ton of questions for me that I may answer at some point, largely related to NU I imagine, but that guy is town for now.

This is where he 180's on NU, throws shade on LS for suggesting there is mafia between himself and NU (which is odd since he had also thought NU was sus a few posts before), doesn't like me, and the stuff about gell is almost litterally word vomit. Feels like a scatter shot post flinging shit and seeing what might stick.

I really did try to find something redeeming in his filter that might make Emp town, but I came up with nothin.

sicklucker - pretty dam null, nothing stood out to me either way

NeverUnlucky - Reading through the game I kinda felt like NU is a lot more held back than I have ever seen him. I liked his point in #285 in response to Koshi. Other than that though I'm really not following his reads, and especially his pushes. Kinda a shame NU was last on the list, I feel like I need to be more awake to make a better read here. Leaving him as a scum read kus something feels off about him in my gut.



##Vote: emperorchampion

Seems like the best option to me. I have an odd feeling that the Emp vs NU stuff so far has actually been Mafia on Mafia. NU has actually said very little about Emp despite being one of his scumreads and Emp's read on NU has been a bit all over the place. Their interactions are also pretty tame for two people scum reading one another as well. I might be hitting the tinfoil a bit here though.


Lets talk about this post more. My conclusions:
1) TT is not following the game at all, or
2) TT is mafia.

Consider the state of the game when this was made: Rels and Koshi were voting HF, I had just voted NU.

1) Two of the top town reads are Rels and Koshi, both are at the time voting for HF. He has a town read on HF. I don't see any justification for this stance.
2) The read of HF it self, partially green but null/conflicted. I'm not really sure what to make of that. I get the sense that the conflict between having HF as town and Mahrgell as town is noted, but dealt with so lazily.
3) Stating MvM between NU and I essentially means that TT thinks that 2 mafia have been found day 1. I find this to be a very odd conclusion.
4) The case on my self is truly baffling. Either TT is lying when he says that "I didn't find anything townie" or has not been reading closely at all. Let me outline:
a) Two of his top towns, Rels and Koshi, are voting for HF. Koshi had 0 interest in voting HF prior to my posts #589 and #609.
b) I am (to my knowledge at the time) not under consideration by: Rels, Koshi, LS, HF (?). All towns for TT.
c) I am currently voting for one of his towns (LS) current target.
d) The reasoning that I had for being suspicious of HF (#609) is the exact same as the reason that he is null/conflicted on HF.

In summary: based on the 3 points above, if TT didn't find anything townie what so ever in my filter, then he must be lying. IF this is the case, the only purpose that makes immediate sense is that he's mafia. Otherwise, as stated, maybe he's not reading closely at all, but I think that makes him an OK lynch candidate as well.



@NU why is this a good post?

1) You can town read people and think they are wrong. Just because they think someone is scum doesnt mean you have to think they are correct if you think they are town.

2) bleh

3) Why is it odd. If you think you caught 2 scum on day 1 that seems fairly normal to me.

4) I dont really find anything worth town reading EC for. Who cares what your reads are and if I agree with some of them or not that isnt what makes someone town or scum, Its the reasons for which he finds them town or scum.

But then he waffles on actually scum reading him and looks at other people for their thoughts.

When I read it the first time I felt convinced particularly of point 1 and 4d. Now that you gave your insight I find it bland. Especially since he calls out TT for scum-reading him when they have the same thoughts in regards to HF, LS and Kosh.

Somehow I'm not sold that he is mafia. I think it's because I felt like he believed in what he posted.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 30 2016 18:45 GMT
#931
On November 29 2016 12:36 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 11:07 Shapelog wrote:
On November 29 2016 07:26 emperorchampion wrote:
On November 29 2016 07:22 Onegu wrote:
country songs dont count they think their cousin is wife material... How can you believe anything they say?


Whoa there par'ner! Just cause the folk that l'sen to strum of the banjo may be cousins, dun mean that the singers are? Catch ma drift?

Racist....and a bit songist

Gosh your Canadian, does your national anthem not tell you anything?


Hey man, I was defending country music! One "farm for 15min to get a blink dagger that you start with for free in LoL as spell" gu was the one knocking it!

I'll post some more serious stuff after this guys

I really really don't like this last sentence for some reason.

On November 30 2016 13:01 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 12:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 30 2016 12:52 emperorchampion wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.

On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote:
I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros)
And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes)
And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3
Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.

No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum.



This post is not natural to me.
1) No mention of c8 when he actually makes quoted post (2). After quoted post (1) comes out, NU goes to reference it.
2) Makes me think NU was filtering c8 looking for something that looks bad to push him on it.

Thoughts?

I don't quite understand 1) :3 But I did not filter checkm8 when I did that post. The first quote was directly directed to me, so it was fresh in my mind, and the second one was made while I was online, so I made the connection.

On November 30 2016 12:53 emperorchampion wrote:
@NU, to answer a previous question: started thinking you were looking pretty bad, went to thinking you were OK and should maybe be left alone, now back to looking pretty bad.

Yeh, I figured that, I was asking why that is.


Well at the moment I don't really understand where in the game you're at.

So where are you at?

I asked him to walk me through his read progression on me and he replied with this. How does where I am at in the game change/affect the read progression he has on me?

I'd also like an answer to that question I asked @ec.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 30 2016 19:02 GMT
#947
On November 29 2016 13:25 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 13:08 LightningStrike wrote:
EC I seen you made some posts on NU is your conclusion on him so far is that you think he's scum? That what I getting from your posts on him.


Not ready to come to a conclusion like that atm, esp. since some of your posts have been suspect, and there is some friction there. Just someone to read more on.

He wasn't ready to commit a read on me ESPECIALLY because he suspects LS????????????????

On November 30 2016 02:55 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 02:39 Shapelog wrote:
On November 30 2016 02:22 emperorchampion wrote:
NU probably town. LS don't really like trying to set up mafia between NU and I. TT haven't really liked from the get go. mahrgell's got this mix of above average content, lots of questions, pressure on incorrect target that's raising some flags for me. That's where I'm at right now. There are a ton of questions for me that I may answer at some point, largely related to NU I imagine, but that guy is town for now.

What has made NU town for you now?

Also, you think LS is setting up to act like there is mafia between you and NU?


For now he seems to understand why he's not mafia, albeit a little rudely, but I'll take it for now.

Feels like it yeah.

That's how he justifies his town read? How is that even an argument to town-read someone?

It's also like he's saying that he tried to reaction-test me to see if I understand if I'm not mafia or something, it's fucking shady.

On November 30 2016 03:38 emperorchampion wrote:
@Koshi:

1. Rels
2. Holyflare
4. Onegu
8. Checkm8
11. sicklucker
12. Tictock

Maybe only 1 of sl and c8? Waiting for c8 since I have something I'm curious about.

All of those who were trolling/inactive are his scum-reads at the time.

He can't take a stance on the more active players like his posts on me and this post show: + Show Spoiler +
On November 30 2016 04:14 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 03:59 Shapelog wrote:
EC do you think LS is town?


Not sure at the moment. Right now, seems to me like either misguided town, or devious mafia. More likely would be misguided town out of those to me. Could also be the case that NU is actually mafia, and he's on-track-town.That considered, doesn't presently look like a good lynch target to me.

You want to go after him?

Also, this last sentence sounds like something mafia would ask another mafia but that's pre-flip association.

I'm voting EC.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 30 2016 19:04 GMT
#949
On December 01 2016 04:01 Koshi wrote:
Or is it HF is town and scum!Koshi is lynching him? Is that it?

What???

That's not what he said at all.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 30 2016 19:04 GMT
#950
On December 01 2016 04:04 Koshi wrote:
Well you will lose vs EC everyday. But fine. You can get lynched.

I am 100% town.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 30 2016 19:09 GMT
#955
On December 01 2016 04:04 Koshi wrote:
Well you will lose vs EC everyday. But fine. You can get lynched.

Also, you didn't even have time to read my post and the points i made against EC. Don't fucking talk to me if you're not going to read what I post. It also shows that you are not willing to reevaluate your read on me nor ec.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 30 2016 19:10 GMT
#958
On December 01 2016 04:08 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 04:02 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 13:25 emperorchampion wrote:
On November 29 2016 13:08 LightningStrike wrote:
EC I seen you made some posts on NU is your conclusion on him so far is that you think he's scum? That what I getting from your posts on him.


Not ready to come to a conclusion like that atm, esp. since some of your posts have been suspect, and there is some friction there. Just someone to read more on.

He wasn't ready to commit a read on me ESPECIALLY because he suspects LS????????????????

On November 30 2016 02:55 emperorchampion wrote:
On November 30 2016 02:39 Shapelog wrote:
On November 30 2016 02:22 emperorchampion wrote:
NU probably town. LS don't really like trying to set up mafia between NU and I. TT haven't really liked from the get go. mahrgell's got this mix of above average content, lots of questions, pressure on incorrect target that's raising some flags for me. That's where I'm at right now. There are a ton of questions for me that I may answer at some point, largely related to NU I imagine, but that guy is town for now.

What has made NU town for you now?

Also, you think LS is setting up to act like there is mafia between you and NU?


For now he seems to understand why he's not mafia, albeit a little rudely, but I'll take it for now.

Feels like it yeah.

That's how he justifies his town read? How is that even an argument to town-read someone?

It's also like he's saying that he tried to reaction-test me to see if I understand if I'm not mafia or something, it's fucking shady.

On November 30 2016 03:38 emperorchampion wrote:
@Koshi:

1. Rels
2. Holyflare
4. Onegu
8. Checkm8
11. sicklucker
12. Tictock

Maybe only 1 of sl and c8? Waiting for c8 since I have something I'm curious about.

All of those who were trolling/inactive are his scum-reads at the time.

He can't take a stance on the more active players like his posts on me and this post show: + Show Spoiler +
On November 30 2016 04:14 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 03:59 Shapelog wrote:
EC do you think LS is town?


Not sure at the moment. Right now, seems to me like either misguided town, or devious mafia. More likely would be misguided town out of those to me. Could also be the case that NU is actually mafia, and he's on-track-town.That considered, doesn't presently look like a good lynch target to me.

You want to go after him?

Also, this last sentence sounds like something mafia would ask another mafia but that's pre-flip association.

I'm voting EC.


NU outside of emp where's your head? Does this mean you think TT is town?

EC - SL - Mahr

I liked TT's response to me asking to comment on if he is disconnected or not. It was transparent. I didn't particularly connect with the cases made against him.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 30 2016 19:20 GMT
#972
On December 01 2016 04:08 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 04:04 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On December 01 2016 04:04 Koshi wrote:
Well you will lose vs EC everyday. But fine. You can get lynched.

I am 100% town.

I don't care about stupid statements like that.

EC is obvious town. You knew it when you talked to him.
You are forgetting it now because he is probably the easiest target that isn't mafia with you.

His list is brilliant.
I agree with everything he said.
He has made a ton of posts that are more likely to come from town than mafia.
And he did great analysis of posts + situations.
And when he talks to you he always keeps an open mind but clearly tries to figure you out more.


And when you talk to him you are defensive as fuck. But when he is not around you backstab him.



If you are right and he is mafia and you are town. You got so outplayed you should be ashamed and full of respect.

His list IS YOUR LIST. His stances are easy everywhere, just read my post, it shows him scum-reading all the inactive and trolly players and not being able to commit a read on LS me and mahr.

When am I ever not defensive as fuck?

You wrote your case on me when I was not around. You said that Rels is likely to be mafia when he was not around.

I am not the one who is getting outplayed here if he is mafia, you are the one to TR him. Shame. SHame. Shame.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 30 2016 19:23 GMT
#975
On December 01 2016 04:17 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 04:16 darthfoley wrote:
On December 01 2016 04:14 Koshi wrote:
The only other person except NU I am willing to vote for is Onegu.

I am not interested in anything else D1.
I will lurk the thread, you can ask me questions, I am not doing shit anymore actively though.


Can you explain why TT is out of your equation if you think emperors posts on him were really good and you've been scum reading him forever??


I think I can explain since I'm in a similar boat: What NU and Onegu just posted on the past 2 pages or so is so crazy, even I think that Onegu is scum before TT at this moment in time.

Nothing I posted is crazy.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 30 2016 19:27 GMT
#979
I have to go and can't be there before EoD. If I'm lynched, so be it, I didn't do my job of being town-read. Perhaps I really need to rely on other shit to be town-read. I'm VT fwiw. Good luck.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 30 2016 23:55 GMT
#1161
gg wp!

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
December 12 2016 21:06 GMT
#3233
gg!
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
December 12 2016 21:08 GMT
#3236
On December 13 2016 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Also scum qt please? Would love to read it.

https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/x544w9jYmm59
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
December 12 2016 21:14 GMT
#3249
On December 13 2016 06:13 Holyflare wrote:
I don't even know what gif thinf you're talking about

On December 08 2016 08:27 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 07:17 Onegu wrote:
So I won?

Nice


[image loading]

"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
December 12 2016 21:30 GMT
#3258
On December 13 2016 06:23 darthfoley wrote:
so mafia really did uber bus NU D1

Anyone have a link to the obs QT?

Nah, I bussed myself.

https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/XuhmbURQdWns4
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
December 12 2016 22:20 GMT
#3271
On December 13 2016 06:32 mahrgell wrote:
Anyway, grats NU, I saw you won another scumgame in the meantime... And your scumQT there looked great fun.....

And mad respect for not shitting up the thread...

Thanks, man! I wish I had been as good here as I was there :3

Rels and Koshi's cases on me this game helped me tremendously improve my scum play.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
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