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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 03 2016 11:56 GMT
#1688
C8 being modkilled would be cool too.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 03 2016 12:15 GMT
#1690
On December 03 2016 21:11 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2016 20:56 Rels wrote:
Another thing on SL is that he had ZERO town spree, like he usually does in 100% of his town games. When he finds that one stupid (or sometimes crazily good) thing and tunnel on it for posts and posts.
Thinking on voting SL over Shape. We'll see what Shape does when he goes back.


What do you mean by that? Like SLs meta is still a riddle to me, and the one game linked earlier was absolutely nothing like him in this game.
But this game he one post tunneled NU into afk vote and then tunneled DF(I can follow those arguments, just don't agree with them).

I'll find examples when I'm in front of a PC. Basically sicklucker has this distinct way of doing a lot of posts over a single thing and that's kinda his town thing. He has a very hard time replicating it as scum and when he tries it usually looks forced.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 03 2016 13:56 GMT
#1701
That sl omgus.
Explain very clearly why shape would not claim cop at the start of the game as scum and how it makes him 100% town, you don't even need to read anything else
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 03 2016 14:41 GMT
#1710
On December 03 2016 23:06 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2016 23:05 Holyflare wrote:
I'm sure I remember someone saying Shapelog has fake claimed before anyway?


I personaly have not but thats not even what happened here. he tried to take a role bullit imo... poorly...

Something which you did as well and I dont understand how you cant see it

This doesn't make sense. You read is set in stone for an extremely weak reason and instead of seeing it hand adapting it you're defending it
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 03 2016 19:27 GMT
#1726
On December 04 2016 02:10 sicklucker wrote:
Emp
HolyFlare

huge drop

Ls
Mahr
onegu
shapelog
Ticktock
checkm8??? who

Rels
Darthfole

about where im at. Maybe rels was a bit omgus but fuck that guy. his read looked super forced and oputunistic






"Opportunistic" is the easiest word to use when you wanna throw fake suspicion to someone.

Your shape read STILL doesn't make sense. Have you even read his filter ? He's the goddamn lynch right now and you don't think he's scum - at least you think there are 4 people scummier than him. Why ? You just admited your "he wouldn't claim cop" BS doesn't hold, why is he townier than TT C8 DF and I ?
And to add to that, I find very suspicious that you wouldn't fight against a lynch you don't believe in, especially since I know you can do exactly that as town.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 03 2016 19:28 GMT
#1727
Your shape read is exactly what Skynx did last game. You just decided he was town for this reason, but your read is not evolving, you're not re evaluating or using any other posts of it - hell you don't even show that you read his filter.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 03 2016 19:57 GMT
#1734
On December 04 2016 04:55 emperorchampion wrote:
Onegu was here and catching up, but didn't post anything?

He said he would catch up when waking up.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 03 2016 20:02 GMT
#1737
On December 04 2016 05:00 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2016 04:57 Rels wrote:
On December 04 2016 04:55 emperorchampion wrote:
Onegu was here and catching up, but didn't post anything?

He said he would catch up when waking up.


Ah OK yeah, I dunno his time zone.

In the US, so I think it's supposed to be right now, or maybe even a little earlier
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 03 2016 20:03 GMT
#1740
"short"
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 03 2016 20:04 GMT
#1741
On December 04 2016 05:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Onegu lives in Taiwan I think? So it's still early in the morning.

Oh OK
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 03 2016 20:07 GMT
#1745
mahrgell I understand the dilemna you're bringing up. The answer to this is just lynching the scummiest dude. Now activity can be a alignment indicator, but it should be just that - between a inactive scumlean and a super active scumread we should lynch the scumread.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 03 2016 20:43 GMT
#1755
On December 04 2016 05:31 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2016 04:27 Rels wrote:
On December 04 2016 02:10 sicklucker wrote:
Emp
HolyFlare

huge drop

Ls
Mahr
onegu
shapelog
Ticktock
checkm8??? who

Rels
Darthfole

about where im at. Maybe rels was a bit omgus but fuck that guy. his read looked super forced and oputunistic






"Opportunistic" is the easiest word to use when you wanna throw fake suspicion to someone.

Your shape read STILL doesn't make sense. Have you even read his filter ? He's the goddamn lynch right now and you don't think he's scum - at least you think there are 4 people scummier than him. Why ? You just admited your "he wouldn't claim cop" BS doesn't hold, why is he townier than TT C8 DF and I ?
And to add to that, I find very suspicious that you wouldn't fight against a lynch you don't believe in, especially since I know you can do exactly that as town.


I fought against it at the start of the day...where were you? It didnt work everyones afk here we are


And why shouldn't we Lynch shape ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 03 2016 20:52 GMT
#1762
On December 04 2016 05:49 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2016 05:43 Rels wrote:
On December 04 2016 05:31 sicklucker wrote:
On December 04 2016 04:27 Rels wrote:
On December 04 2016 02:10 sicklucker wrote:
Emp
HolyFlare

huge drop

Ls
Mahr
onegu
shapelog
Ticktock
checkm8??? who

Rels
Darthfole

about where im at. Maybe rels was a bit omgus but fuck that guy. his read looked super forced and oputunistic






"Opportunistic" is the easiest word to use when you wanna throw fake suspicion to someone.

Your shape read STILL doesn't make sense. Have you even read his filter ? He's the goddamn lynch right now and you don't think he's scum - at least you think there are 4 people scummier than him. Why ? You just admited your "he wouldn't claim cop" BS doesn't hold, why is he townier than TT C8 DF and I ?
And to add to that, I find very suspicious that you wouldn't fight against a lynch you don't believe in, especially since I know you can do exactly that as town.


I fought against it at the start of the day...where were you? It didnt work everyones afk here we are


And why shouldn't we Lynch shape ?


can you stop talking about a ghost thats already as good as dead no shennanies are happening here ever? Your talking alot of shit about me but what have you brought to the table other then talking about a dead person and me thinking hes not a great lynch even tho hes already lynched and its not really relevant to the game

Nope, since he's the Lynch right now and you had a weird town read on him, which is now a completely null read.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 03 2016 21:01 GMT
#1770
On December 04 2016 05:59 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 00:23 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 30 2016 00:01 mahrgell wrote:
On November 29 2016 23:55 NeverUnlucky wrote:
#526

5) and 6) mostly reflect my thoughts on both these players. However, I really don't like this: "Fuck it, I guess I leave [LS] to people who can judge him better until I have seen more from him to form a more conclusive opinion. " It comes back to HF's point re: dedicating a post to someone and not having a clear opinion on them.

On that note, you still have no read on me despite liking the points that were made against me and claiming I am the one you have the most meta with.

Also, fucking stop calling me "controversial" and whatnot.


COntroversial most in the sense that you are among the most suspected players in this game. Deal with it.

And about not having a read, I think I explained why. Because I feel that what you write in this game, and what others call you out for makes you look scummish in isolation. If I add back the meta, it makes you look townish. So back to square 0.

But I don't see much point in argueing about that. I have nothing to add to the allegations against you and it is up to you if you feel you defended enough against those.

If you don't feel like they are worth commenting more, just share more good stuff about other players. Like what are your opinions on HF, SL, emp, TT and LS?


The allegations as you put it are that I made stuff out of thin air (emp and checkmate) which I debunked, that my post on LS was tainted by the fact that I had a pre-made conclusion on him which is a blatant shade-throw for someone who claims to have no read on me (emp), and that I'm losing ppl with my train of thought (Shape, you). (And a point that emp misunderstood)
No example/explanation for the first, shade for the second, and my arguments being too IQ demanding for the third. That's my "case".

Here are my reads:
TOWN
DF
Koshi

LEAN-T
Checkmate
Onegu

LEAN-SCUM
EC
TT ??
SL

HF's point on you is something I agree with. Like I told you in the noobers game, you don't interact with peoplez enough which makes you look unnatural, not transparent which is a mafia trait. I don't have anything to lean either way on him though.

SL has been useless and not in a funny Grack/Superbia way, so he can be scum-leaned until he starts moving his ass.

emp, I don't understand how anyone could town-read him. His serious posts after his trolling were about me, and as I mentioned above, one of them was a misunderstanding and the other one had no evidence on why I was making shit up and contained something I perceive as a shade-throw because he doesn't even scum-read me.

TT seems uninterested by the game :3 I'm thinking it could be NAI because he was willing to give Onegu his spot in the pre-game which would show that he is not that interested in the game, so it's kind of a moot point.

LS, I despised his first post, but I enjoy his attitude in this game. Tone doesn't sound maf. He's null for me now.


Lol he has df as his top town for literraly no reason. Just like he had me at the bottom even tho he was talking about 5 other players. He didnt mention df in his filter before this just like me. Knowing im fucking town and he put me at the bottom. This is just more proof to me that darth is his partner


I have the opposite conclusion on that. Scum don't put their partners top town for no reason
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 03 2016 21:16 GMT
#1780
On December 04 2016 06:12 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2016 06:01 Rels wrote:
On December 04 2016 05:59 sicklucker wrote:
On November 30 2016 00:23 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 30 2016 00:01 mahrgell wrote:
On November 29 2016 23:55 NeverUnlucky wrote:
#526

5) and 6) mostly reflect my thoughts on both these players. However, I really don't like this: "Fuck it, I guess I leave [LS] to people who can judge him better until I have seen more from him to form a more conclusive opinion. " It comes back to HF's point re: dedicating a post to someone and not having a clear opinion on them.

On that note, you still have no read on me despite liking the points that were made against me and claiming I am the one you have the most meta with.

Also, fucking stop calling me "controversial" and whatnot.


COntroversial most in the sense that you are among the most suspected players in this game. Deal with it.

And about not having a read, I think I explained why. Because I feel that what you write in this game, and what others call you out for makes you look scummish in isolation. If I add back the meta, it makes you look townish. So back to square 0.

But I don't see much point in argueing about that. I have nothing to add to the allegations against you and it is up to you if you feel you defended enough against those.

If you don't feel like they are worth commenting more, just share more good stuff about other players. Like what are your opinions on HF, SL, emp, TT and LS?


The allegations as you put it are that I made stuff out of thin air (emp and checkmate) which I debunked, that my post on LS was tainted by the fact that I had a pre-made conclusion on him which is a blatant shade-throw for someone who claims to have no read on me (emp), and that I'm losing ppl with my train of thought (Shape, you). (And a point that emp misunderstood)
No example/explanation for the first, shade for the second, and my arguments being too IQ demanding for the third. That's my "case".

Here are my reads:
TOWN
DF
Koshi

LEAN-T
Checkmate
Onegu

LEAN-SCUM
EC
TT ??
SL

HF's point on you is something I agree with. Like I told you in the noobers game, you don't interact with peoplez enough which makes you look unnatural, not transparent which is a mafia trait. I don't have anything to lean either way on him though.

SL has been useless and not in a funny Grack/Superbia way, so he can be scum-leaned until he starts moving his ass.

emp, I don't understand how anyone could town-read him. His serious posts after his trolling were about me, and as I mentioned above, one of them was a misunderstanding and the other one had no evidence on why I was making shit up and contained something I perceive as a shade-throw because he doesn't even scum-read me.

TT seems uninterested by the game :3 I'm thinking it could be NAI because he was willing to give Onegu his spot in the pre-game which would show that he is not that interested in the game, so it's kind of a moot point.

LS, I despised his first post, but I enjoy his attitude in this game. Tone doesn't sound maf. He's null for me now.


Lol he has df as his top town for literraly no reason. Just like he had me at the bottom even tho he was talking about 5 other players. He didnt mention df in his filter before this just like me. Knowing im fucking town and he put me at the bottom. This is just more proof to me that darth is his partner


I have the opposite conclusion on that. Scum don't put their partners top town for no reason


Honestly I think this is pretty WIFOM. Like everybody knows, that scum does not, so scum does, and reverse.
I think there are other good arguments to believe DF to be town though. Even though the DF train of thought from SL is something I can follow, I just dont agree.


Well it's true but it's an town indicator nevertheless. Very few things in mafia are absolute.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 03 2016 21:17 GMT
#1782
On December 04 2016 06:12 sicklucker wrote:
Maybe we should just vote out check... if hes town hes never gonna prove hes town. shapelog might. hell you will never go for this afk

Now that we're almost confirmed that c8 is not fake afking with the replacement thing, let's see if he's modelled today first
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 03 2016 22:03 GMT
#1807
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 03 2016 23:53 GMT
#1893
haha I love this claim. Should make the game a lot easier (=
If SL is town (super likely, why would he fakeclaim at that point of the game), that's a super scummy dude out of the PoE
If SL is scum, he's gonna be CC at some point; and at the very worst we have a 1v1 trade
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 04 2016 00:10 GMT
#1897
On December 04 2016 09:02 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2016 08:53 Rels wrote:
haha I love this claim. Should make the game a lot easier (=
If SL is town (super likely, why would he fakeclaim at that point of the game), that's a super scummy dude out of the PoE
If SL is scum, he's gonna be CC at some point; and at the very worst we have a 1v1 trade


Any idea who this implicates to you if SL is town?

SL / Shape / C8 being my top choices for scum, I would need to re assess completely. I'm gonna wait until tomorrow to see if there is a CC or not.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 04 2016 00:12 GMT
#1898
On December 04 2016 09:08 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2016 08:53 Rels wrote:
haha I love this claim. Should make the game a lot easier (=
If SL is town (super likely, why would he fakeclaim at that point of the game), that's a super scummy dude out of the PoE
If SL is scum, he's gonna be CC at some point; and at the very worst we have a 1v1 trade


I really cant follow you here??? super scummy dude?
Before we went into this night there was like this broad consensus of 2 scum being between shlog, sl, onegu, cm8.
Then there were certain personal favorites who were suspected by single players but I dont think there was much agreement on those.

Now if we assume SL town, and considering both flips... this leaves Onegu? Not sure if this is what you are trying to say, but I really cant follow you here. And even if it is Onegu, then I still dont see how it will be easy to find the second one...

I'm saying SL was my biggest scumread after Shape today and if he's confirmed town without needing to lynch him that would be great
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