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You literally have nothing else to do today except that.
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I would like to hear koshi reasons. I made a big wall on koshi so how is it not relevant if you think he's null? Leave no stone unturned.
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@HF
Just reread it. I see where you are coming from. I dismissed it earlier, as a hiccup as he was posting as he read it, but you are right, this Skynx!=HF should only concern his doubts about my expectations about you, not about my changed playstyle.
But the rest of his filter simply looks so townish. Is Rels the kind of player to make such a "hm... I think this is something"->"hmmm is it?" -> "nah, this sounds totally stupid" progression as scum? It simply felt genuine.
Also about my eraly meta, I guess I discarded it also, because I fully acknowledge that I somehow changed... The last game albeit somehow successful was not fully enjoyable a lot of due to how I approached the game. My mental approach is still the same, but I really tried to change my posting habits to make the game more fun and sustainable for myself. So if he at this point felt my meta was off... He was right.
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Urg. Not being able to play yesterday messed me up.
Got my busier schedule today. When I get time, i'll filter.
I thought of something about SL last night however. I'm not terribly sure about it yet, and honestly, the evidence to support it is very very very bad. But in a previous mafia game (can't remember the name), I fake claimed mafia early into the game (was town). Scum!SL jumped on it, and pushed the fact that I could (due to my "eccrtice" past) be doing that as mafia to look fearless. He used it also to justify tunneling me for the day phase.
Here, SL did not take that liberty. Instead, he just nodded and left it be, while trying to gain info (post about the discussion being bad between me and LS but townie) from what happens around it. He could of jumped on it if he was mafia (especially this time with my claim.) yet didn't.
I know it was one game, but he had a opportunity to push me for it and didn't take it. thoughts (even tho i won't be here in 10 mins :/)?
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On November 30 2016 22:28 Holyflare wrote:
I would like to hear koshi reasons. I made a big wall on koshi so how is it not relevant if you think he's null? Leave no stone unturned.
Meh... okay... gimme an hour.
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Also Onegu stole the way I catch up.
Thief!
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Side note: NU wagon formed even faster than what I thought it giving me a pause. If he's scum then scum just giving him their teammate via bussing for credit. If he's town then potentally two wagons on towns? At the same time I do think we should NU. Getting mixed feelings on this.
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On November 30 2016 22:31 mahrgell wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 22:28 Holyflare wrote:
I would like to hear koshi reasons. I made a big wall on koshi so how is it not relevant if you think he's null? Leave no stone unturned. Meh... okay... gimme an hour.
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On November 30 2016 22:34 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note: NU wagon formed even faster than what I thought it giving me a pause. If he's scum then scum just giving him their teammate via bussing for credit. If he's town then potentally two wagons on towns? At the same time I do think we should NU. Getting mixed feelings on this.
Let's build a real slow wagon on Mahrgell. Join me!
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On November 30 2016 22:36 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 22:34 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note: NU wagon formed even faster than what I thought it giving me a pause. If he's scum then scum just giving him their teammate via bussing for credit. If he's town then potentally two wagons on towns? At the same time I do think we should NU. Getting mixed feelings on this. Let's build a real slow wagon on Mahrgell. Join me!
I don't think Mah is scum tbh. But will reread his past game and compared the game with this game later. Anyways going to take a shower then going to be on mobile till 11:00 A.M CST.
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Aren't you supposed to be figuring me put ls?
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well my vote stays doubt ill be here for deadline. salute
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I dont really think onegu is ever this tryhard as mafia. When I have seen him mafia he mostly trolled and fought me anyway
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Like I have played against onegu mafia twice. and both times it was insanely obvious to me so much that i was doing assassination reads before he even flipped based on him being mafia and was right. dont see it here so far. Theres like context and acual thought and shit
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Hell I dueled him with my ability
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On mobile:
On November 30 2016 22:48 Holyflare wrote:
Aren't you supposed to be figuring me put ls?
Have you filter dive everyone yet and if so can you give your reads on everyone?
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On November 30 2016 23:04 sicklucker wrote:
Like I have played against onegu mafia twice. and both times it was insanely obvious to me so much that i was doing assassination reads before he even flipped based on him being mafia and was right. dont see it here so far. Theres like context and acual thought and shit
Is this true? You checked? Read filter?
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On November 30 2016 19:53 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 01:35 mahrgell wrote:On November 30 2016 01:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 30 2016 01:21 mahrgell wrote:
Btw, NU, what made you lean-T on Onegu? I recognize myself in him, and he's funny. I also think that his "Where is everyone?" and "SL was here then left..." posts were town. However, I don't think he's the most town itt anymore because he has yet to make a serious post which worries me. I can see where Koshi is coming from with the Dandel comparison. Off for a while Hm... I can't agree with your pro town arguments. Like you usually at least have substance. Not necessarily substance I agree with but you have something. If you were scum, and knowing your own meta, wouldn't you just fill up the thread as you usually do but drop the substance? Because this is exactly what I feel is happening with Onegu here. Being funny is not a towntell to me, sorry. (At best it makes him worth to keep around and kill him last. ^^) And not sure how those 2 quoted posts are townish, but well, early game vibes are rather subjective I guess so whatever. This is actually a fairly townish post. The changing of meta is something I do. He is wrong of course, but I do like where is mind is at with this post. Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:
I here now. Not much has happened. I do think if one of EC or NU was scum it would be NU because he seems a bit opportunistic at times for his push on people (on me and EC) yet at the same he trying to solve the game more than EC. Plus the hidden LS rule that tends to happen: If someone is playing their game with me ever they would try to push me at someway. The only rule that is in this game is the onegu rule and I am not going to bring it up... Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 07:20 Rels wrote:HF I hated that one post I quoted earlier. Rest of filter is meaningless. Actually this post is him further going deep down to a pointless argument, which doesn't show the "HF gamesense" Koshi was tlaking about at some point. On November 30 2016 00:51 Holyflare wrote:
I find it hard to believe that the discrepancy I've outlined has gone over your head. Your retort of mockery just furthers my conviction.
If I have to enlighten the dim witted then I shall. The discrepancy is quite clearly that the only questions you ask are targeted at your town reads, who you should be the least wary of, and none to your scum reads, who should naturally be the inverse. I dont like where you are going here. I am really town reading HF hard and the fact that he is more laid back here screams town HF to me. Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 07:33 Koshi wrote:On November 30 2016 07:30 Rels wrote:On November 29 2016 23:04 Onegu wrote:On November 29 2016 22:50 Holyflare wrote:
Can you give me a quick breakdown of which people fit into which category in that post margarine?
Just a simple:
Would like to know more:
and
People solely expanding filter with no content:
I'm very intrigued. I may be padding my filter just so people can be like holy shit onegu has a 5+ page day 1 filter that means he is scum, so I can reinforce my you cant meta read me. But I do think I got some content in there also. Maybe not... Actually you're more tryhard as scum ? His point is that he is now tryharding as town and breaks his meta... It's ridiculous because he hasn't done shit. No my point wasnt tryharding it was posting more. I hate you keep trying to make me look worse than what is there and you keep doing it and you know you shouldnt when it comes to me. You say dont lynch me and then you are all kinds of false shade on me. And really is bothering the fuck out of me. Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 07:48 Koshi wrote:On November 30 2016 07:45 Koshi wrote:On November 30 2016 07:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 30 2016 07:18 Koshi wrote:On November 30 2016 07:01 Rels wrote:
Koshi explain your townread on checkm8 ? His posts more likely come from town than mafia wifoming like a madman. I am a sucker for people that say this: On November 29 2016 23:28 Checkm8 wrote:On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia. + Show Spoiler + Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.
On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote:
I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros)
And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes)
And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3
Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.
No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum. Damn, I'm horrible at this. But believe me I'm town...because I'm not chocolate nor mocha... And the post in which he said I was mafia for being too nice. Don't know. It made sense when HF said it came more likely from town. [...] Yeah, I found that last post to be townie as well. Why is LS obvious town to you? Pure meta and feels. I have played with him before. And he even had some good scumhunting somewhere. Well. At least interesting pressure. I completely forgot what it was but it was good. No I am being incorrect. His play is just good. The meta is only a part. The feels are just townfeels I would have with everybody that plays like he does. Saying there is mafia between 2 people because it feels like there is, is bold and can come from a townie. Yes, it could be mafia trying to force town to pick a mafia between the 2 or so but that is not how I read that. It's all good. He is not mafia. My problem with this is iirc he hasnt shown any thought about which one is scum he just says it is TvM with no thoughts about which is which and why. Yeah never voting HF. Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 09:35 Holyflare wrote:
Anyway, still not capable of being productive in the slightest, sorry. Just really not feeling it. This is town HF 100% Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 11:51 LightningStrike wrote:On November 30 2016 11:41 darthfoley wrote:On November 30 2016 11:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Also kinda disliking the HF wagon that formed rather quickly but then again the last time I said about a wagon on HF forming quickly was when HF was scum so (shrugs). I mean his filter is basically calling mahrgell shit, not posting about anyone else, then saying he doesn't feel like doing shit. That's someone you prefer to keep around? He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally. My problem is less with how fast and more to do with who started it. Koshi in scum QT HF is being lazy day 1 lets get him lynched so we dont have to waste a bullet on him. Then people see koshi and start doing that. I really feel koshi is scum here again. Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 12:58 Tictock wrote:On November 30 2016 12:01 darthfoley wrote:On November 30 2016 11:51 LightningStrike wrote:On November 30 2016 11:41 darthfoley wrote:On November 30 2016 11:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Also kinda disliking the HF wagon that formed rather quickly but then again the last time I said about a wagon on HF forming quickly was when HF was scum so (shrugs). I mean his filter is basically calling mahrgell shit, not posting about anyone else, then saying he doesn't feel like doing shit. That's someone you prefer to keep around? He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally. I mean that may be true but i was unaware of this meta point when I voted on him. Never played a game with HF. If he's one of the best players it's equally suspicious that he's spent a strange amount of time on D1 beating the mahrgell horse to death. Especially considering it doesn't look like mahrgell will be one of the realistic D1 trains. This feels like a weird discussion. 3 votes is hardly a quickly formed wagon. I'm also not sure how HF being considered a good player is relevant to him being pushed like this. In fact I had the opposite reaction, that the people pushing him are more likely to be town given they were pushing a "stonger" player. HF being the player is pretty subjective as well. I'm probably biased, or maybe I just missed him in his prime, but I haven't seen why people have this opinion about him. This is so wrong. So wrong. A strong scum player wants a strong town player out of the game. And if one of the biggest things I can point toward koshi is he has some large brass balls and would want to go after HF. You thinking it is town to do so is much less. People dont want to lynch the better players day 1 as town. I want HF in this game if he is a question mark and I think he is town not a question mark. Because I know if he is town he will catch scum 100%. Koshi pushing a HF lynch is much more a scum tell than a town tell. Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 13:04 emperorchampion wrote:On November 30 2016 13:02 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 30 2016 13:01 emperorchampion wrote:On November 30 2016 12:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 30 2016 12:52 emperorchampion wrote:On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia. + Show Spoiler + Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.
On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote:
I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros)
And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes)
And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3
Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.
No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum. This post is not natural to me. 1) No mention of c8 when he actually makes quoted post (2). After quoted post (1) comes out, NU goes to reference it. 2) Makes me think NU was filtering c8 looking for something that looks bad to push him on it. Thoughts? I don't quite understand 1) :3 But I did not filter checkm8 when I did that post. The first quote was directly directed to me, so it was fresh in my mind, and the second one was made while I was online, so I made the connection. On November 30 2016 12:53 emperorchampion wrote:
@NU, to answer a previous question: started thinking you were looking pretty bad, went to thinking you were OK and should maybe be left alone, now back to looking pretty bad. Yeh, I figured that, I was asking why that is. Well at the moment I don't really understand where in the game you're at. So where are you at? I'm up to date, I was thinking of filtering SL before heading to bed (in 15-20 minutes). Who is town for you, and who is mafia for you? I dont like posts like this at this point in time. EC hasnt done much of anything and he comes into the thread with asking someone for reads. Seems lazy and wanting to look like he is contributing without actually contributing.... Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 13:11 Tictock wrote:On November 30 2016 13:05 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 29 2016 09:08 sicklucker wrote:
i just want to believe your not claiming power role but you probably are Nobody flagged this????????????? This is so fucking scummy, it's like Lunaticman's entry in that other newbie game where he blue read Stutters for [reasons?]. Why in the world would his reaction to LS asking others to trust him be that he is a PR? LS has a bit of a history of claiming blue unnecessarily or way too early, pretty sure that was a jab at that. It's a fairly old meta though. I find this less strange than the people who took Shapes cop claim seriously. LS knows I am in this game and he knows a very good way to destroy onegus sanity and make in go off the deep end fully onto LS is to make a serious claim day 1. Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 13:42 LightningStrike wrote:On November 30 2016 12:58 Tictock wrote:On November 30 2016 12:01 darthfoley wrote:On November 30 2016 11:51 LightningStrike wrote:On November 30 2016 11:41 darthfoley wrote:On November 30 2016 11:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Also kinda disliking the HF wagon that formed rather quickly but then again the last time I said about a wagon on HF forming quickly was when HF was scum so (shrugs). I mean his filter is basically calling mahrgell shit, not posting about anyone else, then saying he doesn't feel like doing shit. That's someone you prefer to keep around? He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally. I mean that may be true but i was unaware of this meta point when I voted on him. Never played a game with HF. If he's one of the best players it's equally suspicious that he's spent a strange amount of time on D1 beating the mahrgell horse to death. Especially considering it doesn't look like mahrgell will be one of the realistic D1 trains. This feels like a weird discussion. 3 votes is hardly a quickly formed wagon. I'm also not sure how HF being considered a good player is relevant to him being pushed like this. In fact I had the opposite reaction, that the people pushing him are more likely to be town given they were pushing a "stonger" player. HF being the player is pretty subjective as well. I'm probably biased, or maybe I just missed him in his prime, but I haven't seen why people have this opinion about him. 3 in a small time frame is kinda quick tbh or my definition of quick. Anyways HF during his prime was probably the best player to had played the game as both alignments. Right now ask yourself why town Koshi goes after HF and not adapt a more wait and see. There are much more scummy reasons for Koshi to go after HF. Before the pressure on HF, HF floated the idea that Koshi is scum. Koshi knows that if there is one person in this game besides onegu who can push his lynch and get it done it is HF. In this Koshi is much more likely to be scum than town. Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 15:49 sicklucker wrote:
ya i dont know why you morons want to lynch hf day 1. I would sheep him way before I would lynch him. I agree with alot of his points TRUTH Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 17:29 Koshi wrote:On November 30 2016 11:51 LightningStrike wrote:On November 30 2016 11:41 darthfoley wrote:On November 30 2016 11:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Also kinda disliking the HF wagon that formed rather quickly but then again the last time I said about a wagon on HF forming quickly was when HF was scum so (shrugs). I mean his filter is basically calling mahrgell shit, not posting about anyone else, then saying he doesn't feel like doing shit. That's someone you prefer to keep around? He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally. second person who says this but I am pretty sure it is only Rels and I who voted him. And I pasted my voted after Rels to just give the wagon some more prominence. It's all good. HF is maybe not mafia but it is not because the wagon formed on him too quickly. Please disregard that idea. Lol just LoL
I have no evidence that onegu is capable of this much thought and text as mafia from my limited experience. mostly hes just combatant and trolly but he has avoided that
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True. I did change my read on Rels a bit after reading that Onegu post. Or at least it sparked my interest in Rels.
Ok top 4 atm
NU
Mahrgell
Rels
TT
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But Onegu is leaning extremely extremely close to that.
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